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sparkplug02 · 3 days

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My take on the Final Fifteen

To Aziraphale, I don’t think the choice was “stay with Crowley on Earth” or “leave Crowley for Heaven.” I think the choice was “go to Heaven with Crowley” or “go to Heaven without Crowley.” In other words,

“No” wasn’t an option (to Aziraphale) (gif is not mine).

From the coffee shop scene where the Metatron orders coffee from Nina:

Metatron: “Do people ever ask for death?”

Nina: “What?”

Metatron: “The name of your establishment, ‘Give me coffee or give me death’ - I assume they always ask for coffee?”

Nina: “They don’t ever ask for death, no.”

Metatron: “I don’t suppose they do. So predictable.”

Death isn’t an option. “No” isn’t an option. Not to Aziraphale, who goes along with Heaven as best he can.

With Job, there was wiggle room to bend the rules and interpret things in Job’s behavior. Aziraphale lied but he didn’t outright refuse anyone. Technically, Crowley was the one who made the trick happen. Aziraphale only affirmed it.

During the Final Fifteen, Aziraphale had effectively just started a war. To quote Crowley, “Heaven won’t like that.” Then Voice of God personally came down and, rather than issuing a punishment for using his halo, the Metatron told Aziraphale he would be the new Supreme Archangel.

If God (or God’s voice) says so, then it must be. Aziraphale IS the new Supreme Archangel. The Supreme Archangel must reside in Heaven, so Aziraphale will go to Heaven. For an angel, there is no choice in that. I doubt it crosses Aziraphale’s mind that refusal mighty be an option. There is no option.

Aziraphale’s time on Earth is up. Maybe that is how he sees it. Nothing lasts forever, and he has to go. I doubt he wants to go alone though.

(gif still not mine)

If Crowley came with him, that would make Heaven more bearable. Making Crowley into an angel again might not be an “I can fix you” but a “this is the only way we can stay together.” It is not within Aziraphale’s new jurisdiction to refuse the call of the Lord, but it is within his jurisdiction to give a call of his own. I doubt any angel has the power to make a demon an angel again, so the Metatron was probably banking on the fact that Crowley doesn’t trust Heaven and would never willingly return there, but I also doubt Aziraphale knew that.

If you approach this from a perspective of no alternative, no choice for Aziraphale to stay or leave, only the choice for Crowley to join him or stay behind, then the response to “tell me you said no” was a very honest and genuine “I couldn’t.” Not because Aziraphale values Heaven over Crowley, but because he has no choice in the matter. He IS going to Heaven. He doesn’t see a way out of that.

Of course, Crowley does, and why wouldn’t he? He makes his ‘too late’ love confession, and when that doesn’t work outright, he tries to convince Aziraphale that he has a choice, that he can refuse, that he should refuse, that he ought to refuse.

One of the things I learned in a public speaking class (shoutout to Donna) is that if you’re trying to persuade someone, you can’t expect to get them to swing from one extreme to another. You have to know where your audience stands on the issue and aim to move them one, maybe two degrees towards your side at a time. If you want to change someone’s mind the easy way (talking to them instead of forcing them through an experience that changes their perspective), you have to go slow and steady. If you try to argue someone from one extreme to another, then all you’re likely to do is push them even further away from the stance you want them to take.

This was not a slow and steady persuasion. This was a last-ditch attempt at a long shot. Aziraphale had just started to separate himself from Heaven, enough that he stopped Armageddon with Crowley, but he wasn’t completely detached from them. They still sent Muriel to watch him, which implies that he’s still under Heaven’s control, even if he has gone rogue.

Aziraphale doesn’t see staying behind as an option. He cannot do it, it will not happen. He spends all that time trying to convince Crowley to come with him because that it is the only thing that will make this inevitable future bearable. He must go to Heaven, he will go to Heaven. When Crowley asks him if he said no, he doesn’t respond because this isn’t something he can say no to. It doesn’t occur to him, and he doesn’t consider any possibility…

…until Crowley kisses him.

This is only one example. He keeps turning around, keeps looking back. THAT is one step in the right direction. THAT was enough to make him hesitate, to wonder if maybe he could choose not to go to Heaven and that maybe he should. One fabulous kiss and now, all of a sudden, he’s second-guessing himself.

He still goes, but in the elevator, the Metatron tells Aziraphale about the Second Coming. Crowley figured this out earlier, and Aziraphale knows it now. That final look? Well, they both know how Crowley thinks the Big One will end. Heaven and Hell against Humanity.

In order for Crowley to succeed at stopping the Second Coming, Aziraphale would have had to stay with him. In order for Aziraphale to succeed at thwarting the Second Coming, Crowley would have had to come with him. They probably both feel like the other is abandoning them in their greatest time of need.

Here’s the thing, though: Aziraphale may be Supreme Archangel now, but he was Guardian of the Eastern Gate first and foremost. Aziraphale might stand by and watch Heaven and Hell fight, but the second Heaven turns against Humanity, ohhhhhh it’s over. He was only willing to kill Adam because he thought the rest of Humanity’s survival depended on it. He knows humans kill each other and die all the time, but the last time he’s watched a holy or unholy being kill people was the Flood, and that was God Herself doing it. If his captors fellow angels start killing humans as collateral for the Second Coming, then that will knock him over the edge.

And Heaven doesn’t want that. The Metatron gets Aziraphale in line before the Second Coming starts. If Aziraphale and Crowley team up (you know, the angel and demon who tried to subtly perform a double-half-miracle and instead produced a 25 Lazari smoke signal), it’s over. The day Heaven loses their grip on Aziraphale is the day Heaven loses.

I think Crowley’s kiss worked better than he thinks it did. It made Aziraphale doubt, and it walked him one step closer to turning around. Aziraphale’s protective Principality nature will take care of the rest, and as soon as Aziraphale realizes he has a choice, we all know the choice he will make. Crowley is an optimist. He’ll be there when Aziraphale figured it out.

He’ll be pissed off, but he’ll be there. They both will. Crowley is still on Their Side. My guess is that Aziraphale will go radio silent for an episode or so before he sabotages Heaven so bad that the only way they can recover is by teaming up with Hell. The second Crowley sees Heaven’s plan going up in flames, he’ll know his angel is behind it. He’ll know Aziraphale is on Their Side again.

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ineffable-ezra · 2 days

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SCRATCH EVERYTHING IVE SAID ABOUT HOW I WANT AZIRAPHALE AND CROWLEY'S REUNION TO GO. THIS IS WHAT I WANT:

Aziraphale: The Metatron was talking shit about you

Crowley: [gasp] that BITCH!

Aziraphale: I know right? Like, ew, I don't even know her

#this is a joke #mostly #aziraphale #crowley #ineffable husbands #good omens #david tennant #michael sheen #fanfic #good omens shitpost #good omens season 3 #aziraphale and crowley #crowley x aziraphale #aziraphale x crowley #ineffable spouses #incorrect ineffable husbands

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dayssincegos3announcement · 8 hours

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It has been 135 (one hundred and thirty-five) days since the Good Omens Season announcement.

That is also known as:

4 months, 1 week, and 5 days.

250 days until January.

(4/26/24)

#good omens #david tennant #good omens season 3 #michael sheen #neil gaiman #ineffable husbands #aziracrow

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crowleysgirl56 · 4 hours

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Wildest dreams wishes for Good Omens Season 3 which will probably not come true but I can still hope hey!

Number 25.

I would love to see the below scene mirrored in season 3 where Crowley and Aziraphale stand in Aziraphale’s room facing each other. Crowley snaps his fingers and the door starts to close. Just as they are both almost out of sight and the door is almost shut we see Crowley grab Aziraphale and bends him down into a swoon embrace. They kiss passionately just as the door shuts.

#good omens #ineffable husbands #crowley #aziraphale #aziracrow #crowley x arizaphale #i can dream can’t i?#good omens season 3 #wildest dreams #good omens headcanons #headcanon

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mpetrohero · 3 days

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OH GOD WAIT. HEAR ME OUT. WHAT IF [GUNSHOTS] [ALARMS BLARING IN HEAVEN] WHAT IF WE START SEASON 3 OF GO WITH THE FALL. WITH CROWLEYS FALLING. OH GOD.

Like. We saw The Beginning in season 1 ep1 and Before The Beginning season 2 ep1. WHATS STOPPING THEM FROM GIVING US THE FALL IN SEASON 3 EP1.

I dunno how they’d do it (especially considering the whole “sauntered vaguely downwards” comment but- it’s Heaven and Hell. They are certainly not going to be that gentle with casting out their angle and turning him into a demon. Especially considering how traumatized Crowley CLEARLY is by that experience.) but THEY COULD AND THEN THEY COULD JUST. END THAT SCENE AND SHOW CROWLEY SITTING ALONE DRUNK OFF HIS ASS WHEREVER HES STAYING.

#sorry #but not really #I like pain apparently 👍#good omens #good omens season 2 #good omens s2 #good omens spoilers #good omens season 3 #ineffable husbands #aziracrow

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camilleflyingrotten · 8 months

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Back on the bench

And again, and again…

#good omens #good omens season 3 #headcanon #aziraphale #crowley #ineffable husbands #aziracrow #my artwork

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neil-gaiman · 7 months

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You remember how I told everyone the plot of Season 2 before it aired?

(Everyone tries to remember and then shakes their heads.)

That's right. I didn't. I spent several years going "wait and see". And you waited and you saw.

I'm not going to reveal any of the plot of Season 3, either. So there's really no point in asking me to make things happen, or to tell me what you do or you don't want to happen. I'm not going to.

#good omens #good omens season two #good omens season 3

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scottishmushroom · 2 months

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