This is all I've been thinking about for the past few days

Tommy with creative mode is a menace to society 💀

" we could have been friends " - Dream smp season 1 ending.

this is like finishing one of those books that leave an imprint on you for the rest of your life, you're glad you read it but u will never be able to re-read it and experience what you experienced for the first time :(

hey dsmpblr so since we recently lost our minds over eret’s planned-but-never-executed dsmp ending and the reveal that it’s possibly all one big loop, one that’s likely repeated several times before, i have some fucking thoughts about wilbur.

more specifically, the idea that someone else posted, that wilbur could have removed himself from the loop by leaving for utah.

(edit: the persons url is @/idkwatthehec !!)

see, i think this could go one of two ways.

one, maybe his fate was always to be from somewhere else, to appear and burn bright, so incredibly bright, but burn out fast, only to be revived months (granted, years for him) later. to eventually leave it all behind in a bittersweet goodbye. maybe there’s no real escape, maybe he’s just as much a part of this as everybody else and he has his role and he’s always going to fucking play it.

but maybe he really did remove himself from all of it. maybe he’s no longer part of the loop, and that’s why, like the original poster said, he didn’t have a room in mizu(?) from tales of the smp.

this can mean so many things.

what if he thinks tommy never wanted to (or never could) come visit him in utah?— never even wrote after that final letter. because the tommy that’s there now isn’t the same tommy as before.

what if tommy, in his newest incarnation, finds himself standing one day, overlooking a stretch of land; it’s water and it’s mountains and it’s grass, and he feels… off? like there should be somebody here with him, but he just can’t place who in god’s name it could be and he can’t even describe the feeling. tubbo calls his name and he forgets he even felt it, just continues on with his life and eventually learns to live with that feeling of something missing until it eventually disappears.

what if, although it’s somewhat out of character for him, wilbur ever came back?

what if he sees this kid, bright-eyed and young again, and he’s got tommy’s nose and his crooked teeth and his gangly limbs and his choppy hair but he’s not tommy. not his tommy.

what if, this time, it’s tommy who came back, but came back different?

what if tommy’s worse without him, but what if he’s better?

what if he doesn’t tense up at the mention of tnt? what if he doesn’t have that scar in the middle of his chest from his first(?) canon death acquired in that duel with dream?

what about everybody else?? what about phil. would phil ever even come to the main land if it weren’t for wilbur’s letter? what would that mean for techno, for niki, for ranboo, for literally fucking everyone??

how the fuck would wilbur feel seeing a world unaffected by him?

what if, knowing who he is, he has the impulse to come back to it, to wrap his fingers around it again and leave an impact. because wilbur was always someone who had to be in control, who had to be in first place, and although he’s now older and changed so much, what’s he going to feel in a world where he has no legacy? where there’s no crater for him to stand in after revival and laugh in surprise at (although that wasn’t his original crater)?

maybe, in the end, he throws himself back into the loop.

because maybe he never was free from it, at least, not in any way that matttered.

I’ve seen people drawing q!Tubbo with cat ears as like the whole cute brothers with q!Cellbit idea. What if q!Tubbo’s ears looked like cat ears but actually robotic!

So far the goat hc seems too DSMP to me and the cat ears just aren’t his vibe to me. Cyborg tubbo tho

Like maybe they’re receivers/antenna for his trains or all his machines or smth idk

I just like the idea of q!tubbo having cyborg-y parts (tho I have my own worldbuilding headcanons about Federation imputing line listening or camera in all the members of Quesadilla Island)

But also when tubbo was first joinin qsmp I had this idea of him having effects of DSMP ending with the nukes (yea wasn’t the most preferred ending but c!tubbo got to use his nukes I guess) and has some sort of radiation

Maybe he has some tech from in between when he woke up in the QSMP and end of DSMP that helps regulate that radiation effect on his body or smth (ALL HCs I know DSMP-QSMP linear timeline isn’t canon)

I just love my steampunk tech-y lil Tubbo

I don’t care about the dsmp ending I’m still waiting for an explanation on Eternal Duo

“We hope you enjoyed your stay. it’s good to have you with us, even if it’s just for the day.” -exitlude, the killers

God this server. So many things went wrong, it was so messy and chaotic. Some of the people turned out to be not great. But through it all, it was still something special. Something so loved by so many people. I have been watching for almost the years and I would not be the same without it. There are so many more posts that are so much more eloquent and well said but I just wanted to say thank you. To everyone <3

o7

Idk. It feels so disconnected. This was not it was never meant to be, this was not my lmanburg, this was not we have the blade. This wasn’t epic entrances and escapes. It just felt sad. Hopeless. 

There was always hope, once, I think, but the ending just didn’t have that. 

I want to be proud of Tommy for being proud of this ending, I really do. I want to support him. It’s obvious he cares for it. 

But this ending just didn’t feel like the dsmp. It felt dark. It felt like it ran itself into the ground. Things never ended in tears with no upside, Never like this. There was always an out, always a way around. 

But now everyone is dead and gone, except for the Antarctic commune, Las Nevadas, and maybe some other far off locations. But everyone is gone and there was no closure, no conclusion, just a sudden, cut off scream. 

The more I think about it, the more it numbs me. The ending didn’t feel like what I know the smp was. And maybe times change, and people change, but this is just a lot. This is… not even a clean slate, just an empty one. 

Nobody got what they needed. Nobody even won. Nobody is around to tell their tale. Not even the audience got closure. Feels like someone ripped the last page out of my book. 

I dunno. Maybe it’s just late and I’m just cranky. But I miss what the ending could have been. I miss the communication. I miss techno and everything he brought to the table. I’m mourning an ending we were never going to get, not even after all this time. 

I don’t feel cheated like other people do. Like two years of my life was wasted. I enjoyed this time and I’m going to keep enjoying those memories!! I’m so glad I could be here to see it all live. I just wish that this all could end like it began: everyone together. 

But yeah. I don’t feel cheated out of two years. Just cheated out of an ending, I guess.

I don’t care that it’s a tragedy. I wouldn’t mind under different circumstances. I just care that it feels lonely. The last stream felt lonely and that was never the point of the smp.

 For me, I guess the end was the disc finale. Tommy and tubbo on the bench, Wilbur’s spirit there to embrace their return. The whole server, everyone, united, holding hands. Everyone present and accounted for. Everyone in the limelight. Everyone loved. 

I think, even if it remains a tragedy, the ending missed that community. That love of every person present, every character created. It misses what it was built for— the SMP itself.

Guess you could say he went out with a ban- [NUKE EXPLOSION]

So anyways, in light of recent events, c!Wilbur and c!Quackity enthusiasts:

Wanna hold hands and dance under the moonlight as we've won the game of "get an ending"?

Mini dsmp opinion rant ig

Honestly, it's just a no-win situation whether or not they should've restarted the dsmp with a "memory loss" or go on to a season 2 with memories intact.

I understand both sides.

For some, it's probably better/easier to just restart and not have to constantly deal with a missing CC, a missing plot, and a missing character.

And for some, like philza and niki, they would've preferred to remember and interact with these memories.

Both are valid.

At the end of the day, the memory loss opens up for the possibility of regaining those very memories. So perhaps, one day, when the CCs are ready, it might happen.

I am so broken up over that ending... like holy shit. tommy being addicted to invis bc it's the only thing that could give him a sence of security, but still willing to stop when c!tubbo tells him too, how willing tommy is to die once the discs are gone, how tubbo didn't want to follow through with tommys plan but he does anyways bc the last time he went against tommy was exile, how tommy will never know that tubbo didn't survive, how tubbo will never know what went down between dream and tommy in that godforsaken room, how even after all this dream still has such a strong hold on tommy that he was willing to even begin to hear dream out, literally just after dream laughed with punz after saying that Tommy bringing up his literal suicide attempt was a pathetic sob story and that Tommy was a small minded child, how dream just took the phrase the ends justify the means and fucking ran with it and was willing to stay in the prison and be tortured by quackity every day if it meant that his plans would eventually come to fruition, how when tubbo realized that he was going to die he placed down the bench knowing that he couldn't get to tommy physically and this was the next best thing, idhdusysgehhegdgdh I am sick with grief over this

do you think c!dream resented c!tommy because c!sapnap was on c!tommy’s side during the first disc war?

dream stated in the last lore stream that he wanted everything to be simple and it was inferred that dream really did everything to just get back to sapnap and george. did dream just see tommy as the first crack in their friendship and did everything in his power to stop tommy?

also seeing the friendship between tommy and tubbo could give dream extra resentment, clingyduo always come back to each other, dream never got that with the dream team

i’m not a c!dream apologist bc boy is a literal murderer and sociopath but finally having this missing link in his brain explains so much 

I just feel like I have to say something more

I remember going on the dsmp wiki and reading pages upon pages of trivia and lore and characters i didnt know enough about. I would sit there for hours on end, consuming it all and whats more, I had fun.

The whole thing that was dsmp impacted my life so much. I’ve discovered so many amazing content creators and artists and others that I wouldnt have found otherwise. dsmp is what got me into art, and its honestly just been a whole experience that I’m so grateful for.

And i dont know what it is about streamer guys rping in silly block game that made me love it so much, but I love dsmp probably more then I should. It means so so much to me, and im going to continue to love it even if it’s officially over. Because those characters, that story—It inspired me more then I could have ever imagined. And I dont think im ready now, if ever, to let that go.

The nuke ending was bad. in all honesty, yes, it was terrible. It left me with this regret in the pit of my stomach and it genuinely hurt, but this new ending is….just everything i could have asked for.

Yes, it does hurt that its finally over. All good things come to end, of course, it had to eventually. But the pain of the terrible finale is gone, because this one is so good.

Them ending it all in the actual end, by breaking the only real rule of the server…And. Giving it a final sendoff as just ccs and friends, theyre ending the dsmp how it started, really. It comes full circle. hell, even the last official thing done on the server being Eret giving a museum tour. It’s all awfully poetic and it’s such a satisfying ending, at least for me.

So really, just—thank you. Thank everyone. the ccs and the fanbase and all of everybody. Closing this chapter, signing off. Dream SMP is over, finally over, and I’ll miss it. But it doesnt hurt anymore. it really feels..like an end. a good one this time.

Too put it this way, in Erets words: “As cliche as it is—don’t be sad it’s over, be happy it happened.”

Pause and think about for awhile now will ya?

One thing that has always stuck to me while in this fandom is that you can never please anyone.

It never fails to baffle me just how can a person put this so much investment in a mere form of entertainment.

How? How can you make paragraphs upon paragraphs of saying how much you hate the ending as if the CCs owe you a good ending- no, an ending that you prefer. How can you ramble so much that the ending is bad as if they personally consulted you on what they should and should not write for their stories?

I realized, after reading statements speaking of dissappointment and statements of 'they shouldve done this and not that', is that these content creators ended their narrative in their terms. Im glad they have done so.

Dream never predicted that he'd end up playing the big bad villain; sure Tommy joined to make it more entertaining, and Wilbur went in and added a little bit of writing to put direction to it... but did you think that all of them predicted how much this direction would change and escalate?

First and foremost, that server has been created for fun, a mere place to hang out with friends, and it succeeded in being one for the longest of time.

Then the lore, the script, the motivation to make a somewhat coherent narrative began. Then the character analyses, the theories, the speculation came through.

That was a good thing at first, it was fun reading the notes, the headcanons, and other creative interpretations that everyone had written, but at some point it stopped being a fun thing and started being a frustrating and confusing jumble of just plain demand and too high expectations.

The server was made for the CCs to try to have fun with their work, to maybe venture new things for their future ideas may it be related to the Dream SMP or not. Not some elaborate story line like high grade movie script for oscars.

You lot wouldn't have anything to have complain about if Dream and his friends didn't make the decision to make an SMP in the first place. The only reason we got to enjoy what they have done so far, is because they decided to share it to all of us.