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moonlightdancer26 · 1 year

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Things in the HP fandom that ✨just don’t make sense✨

Ship wars

Loving Draco but hating on Ron

Calling Snape abusive while glossing over the fact that the series takes place in an old-fashioned magic school 30 years ago.

Thinking it’s valid that just because you hate a character you can disregard their trauma

Wolfstar shippers who bash Tonks for no good reason (you can obviously not ship Remadora and ship Wolfstar, but why hate on her when she genuinely did nothing bad?)

Insisting that George should’ve died instead of Fred (that’s so disturbing??? wtf is wrong with y’all?)

Excusing literally everything the Marauders did by saying “they’re just kids” and not acknowledging that Snape was the same age

Hating on Cho, Fleur, Tonks, and Lavender (hm I wonder what they all have in common)

Hating Percy when he has an extremely realistic and understandable story and felt genuinely overlooked by his family (which he was).

Calling 9 year old Snape a creepy stalker

Acting like Hagrid was a perfect angel just because he was kind to Harry

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fanfic-lover-girl · 7 months

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Doing a Marauders Prequel Series is a Waste of Time

Listen, if you look at JKR's writing for the 7 HP books they follow a similar pattern. 90% of the book is pure fluff where she makes you think Harry and his pals are doing something productive when they are not and then everything suddenly happens at the end through dumb luck, deus ex machina or other contrivances. (Ex. see Deathly Hallows, Chamber of Secrets, Philospher's Stone)

Here's a rough take on how the Marauder's prequel show would go:

15% Mauraders hijinks (becoming animagus, making the map, James crushing on Lily etc)

5% Voldemort war/Slytherins

5% maybe Sirius' family drama

75% Marauders bullying Snape

Like...what content is there to show? More boring magic classes? Slytherins once again being given no development (outside from maybe Andromeda dating a mudblood)? More annoying love drama?? All we will see is James' annoying crush on Lily and these boys being huge bullies. If you get one decent season of substantial episodes, that's plenty.

I bet Marauder stans just want to see a show where Severus is constantly shoved into a toilet or something and shown to be a loser incel.

#anti marauders #anti marauders prequel #severus snape #severus snape deserved better #anti jkr #harry potter critical #anti marauder stans #anti jily #anti james potter #harry potter series #marauder stans already have a crappy prequel and it's called atyd #if we have a prequel show we need more development for Slytherin house #and social and political exploration of how Voldemort rose to power #maybe explore the concept of Gryffindor favouritism #more shady Dumbledore #exploration of child soldiers too #but that would require deep writing and HP is allergic to deep writing

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iliadette · 10 months

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People really say "yeah, sirius black led severus snape to a fully transformed, unmedicated werewolf, but snape listened to him and went even though they were enemies so it's his fault really uwu" and think they're making a great argument

#yeah i saw another one of those takes #some people suspend their disbelief‚ some people suspend other things #like their understanding of the term victim blaming #hp #sirius black #severus snape #anti marauder stans

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maruke2003 · 11 months

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Marauder fans need to except the fact that you can say that James or Sirius or all of the marauders were bullies. It's just a fact, there's nothing to be afraid of, the truth ain't that scary. I know it can be sometimes but oh my god a fucking fact from a stupid book ain't that terrifying.

And saying they're bullies does not take away from the fact that Snape was one as well and that he was an asshole. Y'all need to stop assuming that whenever we say James is a bully we are doing so to erase Snape's shitty actions.

They're two different people. Fucking suck it up and open a book. James being a bully is something that is flat out written for us and confirmed to us by JKR. Unlike Snape being in love with Lily which was never specified or flat out written out in the books and is apparently said by JKR, not that I personally believe it or care either way.

James was a bully, fact.

Snape was a bully, fact.

They are two facts that can live side by side and both sentences are true and neither of them affect the other.

#severus snape #stans are crazy #please just except the truth #and stop getting so pressed #it's in the books multiple times over #anti james potter #anti james potter stans #anti marauder stans #they're fucking insane #pro snape

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bharatiya-naari-sab-pe-bhaari · 2 years

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Hate him as much as you like.

No one has the higher moral ground in fandoms. They are fictional characters created for creating an illusion of simple pleasures.

So hate Snape as desperately as you want and as deeply as you desire.

But please, hate him for hatred's sake and nothing else.

Hate him because he is the anti hero.

Hate him because he is unpleasant.

Hate him because he is a pariah.

Hate him because he cannot fit in anywhere.

Hate him because he is not conventionally good looking.

Hate him because he is unpopular and strange.

Hate him because he cannot laugh or be cheerful or genuinely happy.

Hate him because he doesn't like children.

Hate him because he is biased towards the Slytherins and against the Gryffindors.

Hate him because he did not care as much for Harry's happiness as he did for his safety.

Hate him because ultimately he could not prioritize Harry's life over the entire wizarding world.

Hate him because he couldn't save Sirius or Lupin or Charity or Lily or James.

Hate him because he was ambitious and he didn't let his morals stand in the way of gaining recognition even if it pushed him over to the dark side.

Hate him because he refused to lay down in front of his bullies and accept defeat meekly.

Hate him because he let his anger and hurt get better of him while he was being publicly humiliated and assaulted.

Hate him because he couldn't let go of his trauma and his pain and shame and let it manifest into a life long grudge.

Hate him because he is morally ambiguous.

Hate him for the mistakes he made.

Hate him for the ones he couldn't atone for.

Hate him because he prefers isolation and seems pathologically allergic to human company.

Hate him because he is rude and stern and grouchy and mean and sarcastic and cynical and venomous and spiteful and bitter.

But for God's sake do not hate him because he loved too much or for too long. In this era of where despising someone is far more easy and prevalent then liking someone do not reason your hatred of anyone, real or fictional because the said man or woman had loved and lost. Maybe the love was romantic, platonic, filial, asexual, a-romantic, attractive, infatuat-ive, requited, unrequited, fleeting, intense, deep, yearning etc etc. It doesn't matter. What matter is that the character had loved someone, once upon a time, or maybe they still love that person.

Do not disparage the emotion, desecrate the feeling, defile the concept.

The man had just loved his long dead, estranged childhood friend deep enough or desperately enough to try to make up even to her memory. It matters in the least who she married, whether she will forgive him or not, whether she deserved his devotion or not, whether he is worthy of her or not... so on and so forth.

It really doesn't matter.

Why can't we just appreciate the beauty of living beings and their respective emotions?

Why can't we just accept and celebrate the fact that like fictional characters such as Snape, actual people may develop a devotion, a yearning, a feeling so strong in real life which has the power to bring in such a tidal wave of change for the better in so many people's destinies?

Why do we waste time in demeaning every thing.. even love?

Why fight over Snape or Lily or the Marauders, who was right, who was better, who was wrong, who was worthy?

Each and every one of them has loved even once in their life? So what if any of it was unrequited, romantic or not. It seems extremely distasteful to hate someone because they loved.

So all I say, hate anyone you like, Snape or the marauders, just may be try not to despise them for loving anyone. There are a thousand other reasons one can find to detest any of them.

I can't point fingers when I myself have done it no less times. I don't know what came over me. This social media is a very toxic platform; I am slowly coming to understand.

Maybe I should get out of this place before my brain gets too mucked up.

#severus snape #harry potter fandom #snape fandom #pro severus snape #prosnape #harry potter #love and hate #anti marauder stans #not quite anti marauders #anti snaters #anti haters #rant post #ramblings

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halfblood-princes-crown · 2 years

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They said this in regards to SWM. Apparently since James’ intention wasn’t sexual, it wasn’t SA.

Sexual assault is about exerting power or control over someone, not lust or sexual attraction. Heterosexual men can and do sexually assault other men.

And according to the creator of the video this is from, all he did was “pants him” even though that’s also not an excuse cause pantsing is quite illegal in many places for what would think is an obvious reason

But here’s the deal, and correct me if I’m wrong: Harry Potter was written in British English. Pants and Trousers are two different things. So when James said “who wants to see me take off snivellys pants”…pants are underwear. Severus wasn’t wearing trousers under his robes (and he didn’t have to, it wasn’t apart of the uniform) so that means the whole time he was dangling upside down, he was in his underwear…that would be traumatic for a girl, imagine a guy…their parts actually dangle, and I’m not saying that to be funny. We don’t know FOR SURE that James went through with it but why wouldn’t he? He asked who wanted to see it…the hp fandom doesn’t believe in empty threats apparently so if he didn’t actually do it then he must have wanted to go through with it, right? It was a threat.

Just wanted to throw that^ out there in case they forgot

I’m starting to think this is a lot of peoples fetish because there’s no way you can tell me with a straight face that what James did was ok. Pantsing is actually pretty serious, believe it or not! My old high school called the literal cops on a junior for pantsing someone in gym, and the person who got pantsed refused to school for two weeks…it’s not just some “joke”

So either way you put it, what James did was ILLEGAL on multiple accounts, and ASSAULT on one account, whether you wanna believe it’s sexual or not.

#tw sa #severus snape #pro severus snape #snapes worst memory #anti james potter #anti marauder stans #hp discourse

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larisisig · 2 years

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tell me you didn't read the books without telling me you didn't read the books

geez. at least know how the events happened in sequence

#anti marauders #harry potter #pro snape #pro severus snape #anti james potter #anti marauder stans #severus snape #anti snaters

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avegollum97 · 1 year

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1000/ the people that decided not to trust Lupin first were the fucking marauders , because I don't think Lupin even knew it was happening so it wasn't the entire order and if it was the rest of the order wouldn't have gone to his closest friends first ! And it dint come from Lily because I don't see her convincing even her husband of turning against a friend of his much less Sirius Black ...they were perfectly fine with putting people and HIM in danger for the sake of cool adventures just the year before , but all of a sudden they dint trust him for the very reason he was a werewolf , because what, they were all grown up now ? Fuck them ,bunch of hypocrits bastards ...nothing absulutly nothing in those books makes them sound like decent people !

#snape #anti james potter #anti jily #anti marauder stans

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pan-withnoplan · 2 years

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I stumbled upon a post in which marauders stans claim that "it makes much more sense" that snape actually copied all the potions instructions on the prince's book from James because

"well, his dad made a very successful potion"

(so??? just because harry inherited james' quidditch talent doesn't mean james inherited his dad's at potions?? Talent is not inherently inherited???) and

"snape wanted to impress lily so it makes sense that he copied james to get better at potion"

(but then wouldn't lily be impressed by james in the first place??) and

"this must be the reason why harry thought the prince's handwriting was familiar!!!"

(BECAUSE SNAPE CORRECTED HIS HOMEWORK?? WHEN WOULD HARRY EVEN SEE HIS FATHER'S HANDWRITING ENOUGH FOR IT TO BE FAMILIAR??? AND HOW WOULD JAMES' HANDWRITING EVEN END UP ON THE PRINCE'S BOOK???) and so on so forth...

Oh, and of course all this discourse only applies for the potions. Sectumsempra was really invented by snape, because no way James would create a dark spell. 🤡

Marauders stans are exhausting. Like, I'm sorry that you didn't get enough canon of your faves for half the series and then when you got more it was revealed they're assholes to anyone who wasn't their friends and crushes, but that doesn't mean you get to twist uncontested canon because you're butthurt the character you don't like was smarter in a school subject than them. Snape was a potion genius, deal with it.

#pro severus snape #snape defense #snape fandom #severus snape #anti marauder stans #anti snaters

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neo-olde-prosecutor · 2 years

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James Potter is hot. He's the big Quidditch hero. He's admired by many girls. Cry about it.

First of all, Anon, I wanna thank you for making me laugh. Really needed that these couple of past days.

Second of all, nowhere in the books does it say that James Potter is a Quidditch Hero. Never does it say that he was admired by many girls. Never does it say that he was hot. All of these are things marauder stans like you headcanon and then spread around on the internet like a plague. Because if you have forgotten how James Potter looks like, let me give you a reminder

I don't know about you, but this isn't "hot." He's just a generic, normal looking, mf.

#anti marauder fandom #anti marauders #anti marauder stans #anon ask #anon response

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starrylayle · 1 month

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To all those shippers that depict Sirius as a self-absorbed, short, fem twink with a flare for dramatics -- and Remus as a tall, angry, buff, dom werewolf daddy -- go ahead, it's a fully rounded dynamic! You're actually shipping Gilderoy Lockhart x Fenrir Greyback though! Remember to tag correctly folks! Hope this helps 🥰 🥰

#remus lupin #sirius black #marauders #marauders era #wolfstar #marauders hcs #anti fanon #gilderoy lockhart #y'all this is a joke btw #yes these characterisations annoy me #but at the end of the day we're all obsessing over the fucking harry potter series #i just enjoy being a hater #but also....#maybe consider ur not actually a sirius stan but a gilderoy one?#lmaoo i need to chill #anyways #anti marauders fandom #kinda.....?#fenrir greyback

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moonlightdancer26 · 1 year

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Can we all just agree that 16 year old Sirius tricking Snape into going inside the shrieking shack knowing that werewolf!Remus was inside it is horrifying and should not be cancelled out by the fact that Severus might have already known that Remus was a werewolf? Or is asking for basic human empathy too much work for Marauder stans?

The amount of people who’ve deluded themselves into believing everything that happened in that incident was Snape’s fault astonish me. That, alongside the excuses they make for SWM, make me seriously question how they actually treat irl victims, or whether they simply throw all common sense out the window when the victim in question is Severus.

Newsflash: Even if Severus 10000% knew that Remus was a werewolf, Sirius still deliberately led him into the shack, even when he knew there was a guarantee of Severus being either killed or infected. Both of which would not only end Snape’s life (either figuratively or literally), but would mentally destroy Sirius’s best friend (Remus) and possibly get him executed/imprisoned.

It was still extremely inhuman of Sirius to do, and he should have been punished properly. He was the one who revealed Remus’s darkest secret in the first place, the chain of events never would’ve been set off had he not told Severus anything. Saying “well Snape shouldn’t have-” is grade A victim-blaming. Perhaps Snape shouldn’t have done what he did, but that doesn’t make him any less of a victim, that’s like thinking a woman isn’t a victim because “it’s her fault for being out so late.” And do people not realise that Snape would have never even tried to figure out what Remus was hiding had he not been part of the group that “relentlessly bullied” Severus in the first place?? That’s not entirely Remus’s fault, but it definitely isn’t Snape’s either.

So, whether or not Snape knew, Sirius still withheld vital information that would’ve prevented a teenager from nearly dying, for the sole purpose of having a laugh about it, and he couldn’t even bother to understand what the consequences would mean if his sick prank had actually succeeded—for Severus, for his best friend, and even for Sirius himself. Severus potentially knowing is hardly pertinent, so stop clinging onto an argument that was never even confirmed or hinted at and start addressing your fave’s flaws.

#anti snaters #snape #harry potter #pro severus snape #anti sirius black #dude’s seriously been starting to get on my nerves lately #still love him tho #severus snape #pro snape #hp #anti marauder stans #anti marauders stan #anti marauderfen #anti marauders stans

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the-most-faithful · 4 months

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“Harry was also abused but he didn't turn into Snape”

This argument is likely, once again, to blame Snape. With a speech that sounds a lot like: "Harry also had a bad childhood, but he didn't become like Snape, he could have chosen to be good too" Do we really want to compare them? Let's go in order, I partly understand where this phrase comes from. Harry and Snape are in similar situations as children, as is Tom Riddle. Recluses in the Muggle world, poor, halfblood, misunderstood, treated badly by parents and peers etc... The similarity is fitting up to a certain point and fascinating BUT from the age of 11 onwards it no longer holds.

When Harry arrives at school he is no longer poor, he discovers that he has a mountain of gold left by his parents, to put it in a refined way: he is filthy rich. Snape never will be. Once Harry arrives at school he makes friends with Ron and other Gryffindors, makes positive friendships, is welcomed by the Weasleys, and finds people ready to protect him. Snape, on the other hand, had only one true friend (we will return to this point in the next chapters), Lily. Everyone else in his house wasn't really friends with him and had a bad influence on him over the years. He never had the support of teachers or other responsible adults. No one ever defended him, in fact he was heavily bullied for years in the place where he should have welcomed him and no teacher, no one defended him. Indeed he was blamed.

The similarities between the two disappear once they arrive at Hogwarts, Harry is famous and popular, Snape is not. Harry is respected, Snape is not. Harry has real friends, Snape doesn't. Harry has people protecting him, Snape doesn't.

So out of the love I have for Morgana, let's avoid making comparisons that don't hold up. If and I mean IF Snape had found himself in the exact same situation as Harry perhaps he wouldn't have become who he became and vice versa. Harry found support, if he had been alone, bullied and marginalized he would have made decisions and a different path.

I'm putting all the Snaters' false accusations into a Wattpad collection, if you have any other points not yet covered let me know in the comments or privately COLPE e MERITI - G. Monti E. - Wattpad

#snape stan army #pro snape #anti sirius black #anti james potter #harry potter #snape severus #professor snape #snape and harry #half blood prince #severus prince #snape was the victime #snape defender #snape defense #snape stan #stan snape #anti snaters #snivellus #anyone who still calls Snape snivellus is a bully just like the Marauders

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sctumsempra · 1 month

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“stan james potter” i am actually exploding you with my mind

#severus snape #pro snape #snape #anti marauders fandom #anti marauders #just one snape edit in peace. please. it’s all i want #‘i like watching the snape stans get angry bc it’s not that deep’ we’re angry because #y’all just infiltrate peaceful comment sections with your immature bullshit #the amount of things i’ve seen under snape tags that aren’t even supposed to be there and it’s not even noon yet. criminal

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maruke2003 · 2 years

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What are your thoughts on the fact that marauders stans are essentially taking all of Snape’s character traits and shoving them into Regulus

I love this question 👀.

Honestly it's not even the only character they've done it for.

They've taken Snape's spy position and given it to Regulus

They've taken his abuse and neglect story and given it to Sirius. (Not saying Sirius wasn't abused, he was, they just like to take Snape's story and give it to Sirius as if it's his when he himself already has an abusive childhood)

They've taken The Half Blood Prince's book and claimed it was James'

It's stupid. It's delusional. Like you claim you don't like a character and list all their faults and then give it to other characters.

They claim Snape was still a Death Eater/blood supremacist despite defecting because of Lily. He remained in a position to spy on the dark side for almost two decades of his life. And in the process he started believing in her cause. They claim it's bullshit and call him a Neo Nazi or a Wizard Nazi.

But then.

Then they turn around and say Regulus who defected for his house elf, who was a known blood supremacist, who was obsessed with Voldemort, is not a Nazi. "Regulus black was an abused boy who joined the death eaters to take him down from the inside. He was never a blood supremacist. He was in love with James Potter and was friends with all the marauders"... Like girl no.

They also claim that if Regulus was the spy and not Snape and that Regulus taught potions and was head of house he would have been nice to the students, including Harry and Neville and Hermione. No. Snape wasn't nice because the remaining death eaters wouldn't like to hear Snape playing daddy figure to the boy who lived. Or the child to both a known light family and the boy who could have been the chosen one. As well Hermione a muggleborn, need I say more? He couldn't have been nice because of his position. He would have lost it.

Don't even get me started on the whole "James is the Halfblood Prince thing" anyways I've gotten off topic.

Marauder fans/stans know Snape is amazing and badass but because he doesn't fit into their "hot/attractive" ideology he isn't worth it. So they take his entire life, his personality, his accomplishments and give it to his tormentors (not Regulus).

My final opinion is that it's far fetched and ridiculous. Regulus Black decided to defect in a single moment and when he did he died. If Voldemort hadn't used his house elf to plant his horcrux he wouldn't have known any better and nothing would have changed for him.

#regulus black #Severus Snape #pro snape #anti marauder stans

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bharatiya-naari-sab-pe-bhaari · 2 years

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But this is fucking hilarious.

I don't want to start a verbal war with an idiotic marauder fan so I am not tagging their post but I saw something absolutely ludicrous in my dash that I have to share it with you all.

So this brilliant user wrote a supposed incorrect HP post or something, idk what its technically called. In that, Pettigrew is asking why do the Slytherins hate them and James replies, because they are homophobes and then Pettigrew says we're not gay and the rest of the marauders plus LIly, Marlene, Dorcas.. the usual Gryffindor girls ask 'we're not'. It was something like that, promotion of lgbtq supremacy of the self styled marauders or something maybe.

I had to fucking resist it with all my might to reblog that post with making both Pettigrew and Jamie Potter understand that the Slytherins probably hate them because they like to torment and bully one of their own for no fucking reason except that he happens to be friends with the gal Jamie is obsessed with. And obviously as proved in canon, the precious golden boys can get away with first degree homicide let alone other insignificant stuff like bullying etc, in the school because the headmaster is biased to his teeth for the Gryffindors and against the Slytherins?

Maybe that's why the Slytherins hate you all..

Or maybe they need a fucking brain to realise this in the first place.

Phew! Got that one out of the system..

#anti marauders #incorrect harry potter quotes #fucking ridiculous op #harry potter fandom #anti marauder stans #anti james potter #rant post #pro lgbtq+

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