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pempempemto · 10 months
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first time doing something with the rest of the cast, taking a break from au shiennanegans
so something fun with frank, julie and wally based off one of clown’s tweets of wally falling !
the welcome home cast is really fun to draw actually i might do it more
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princemick · 10 months
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TUMBLR F1BLR RULES!!!
hi, hello and welcome, we've seen what's been happening to twitter and we welcome you to our little corner.
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there are however some things that differ from Twitter to Tumblr and so we have some different rules and behaviour then you might be used to!! I'm gonna try to explain them to you in this post! everything is below the tab!
reblog reblog reblog!!! likes do absolutely nothing, and your blog 'aestetic' in reblogs doesn't really matter unless you're a specific aesthetic blog, reblog are the way people see the content. likes are private! so remember to reblog the stuff you see and like!
DO NOT STEAL GIFS/GRAPHICS I WILL COME AFTER YOU!!! always ask if you can use a gif an then ALWAYS CREDIT properly
shipping is, prevalent. shipping even rpf is ingrained into tumblrs culture on every side of it if you dont like it thats a you thing, you can 'blacklist' tags so just add 'rpf' or the shipnames to them and you should be good!
continuing with that idea, curate your own experience is the most important thing on this site, blocking and blacklisting is normal and very much allowed and welcomed. almost no one is going to change how they do or act around here for one person, just unfollow or blacklist.
but do NOT put long posts or x reader fics, anything in the main tag without putting it under a 'read more' tab people will get annoyed by you
followers dont matter!!! no one CARESSS about basically anything this site is wonderfully anonymous and we can't see how many followers anyone has so genuinely no one gives a shit do whatever you want
remember to trigger tag and unlike twitter spell it out completely! so when a crash happens or is talked about make sure to tag it 'tw crash' even with reblogs!! also remember to tag when you're being negative about a driver as 'anti *insert first name*' never do full name then it will show up in their tags which defeats the purpose of anti tagging.
adding to that, use tags! they're one of the best tumblr features its free to be overenthusiastic and excited in the tags BUT the blog you can reblog it from AND the op can also read those tags so keep that in mind!!
be nice! this shud be a given, be nice, let people do their thing and vibe, just support people and block when u you dont vibe with them! when you do wanna send hate asks do it off anon, dont be shy do it on main
and things arnt 'weird' in the same way they are on twitter, this place has no drivers and no public figures so shame is a lot less existent here, you have to get used to that
and lastly as quoted by my anon 'Don't be afraid to be funny or weird be thirsty on main ship the middle aged man no one cares.'
and most of all. HAVE FUN!!! dont be scared to ask people how things work most of us are very okay with answering 'dumb' questions a lot of us have been here for about a decade we know its a confusing platform please ask away!
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ingravinoveritas · 2 months
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Why do I feel like this post just got personal and going in for the attack like she did for the radio one on twitter I'm not shocked or surprised by this cos the behaviour is getting more stranger and nasty and a fan on twitter shared this on her page saying we got ur bk u got a whole army behind u. I'm sorry what army and I'm sure if they spilt the fans wouldn't be behind her them they literally making it worst
What do u think ?
So, I saw/got a whole bunch of DMs over this Insta story this morning, but didn't have a chance to talk about it until now.
My first thought was that this was almost certainly in response to the negative reviews and backlash coming out for The Way in the wake of episode 3. The two biggest culprits in terms of media outlets seem to be the Daily Mail (Fail) and the Telegraph, and while I won't link to them here because I don't want to give either site any traffic, both reviews can easily be found via a Google search. Adding to those were a stream of vicious comments, both in the comments sections on the respective websites and on social media, largely from what seem to be right-wing/leaning accounts and public figures.
Knowing that, it made me think that Michael had to have been aware of what the potential reaction to the show could be. We know he was, actually, because he's talked about it in several interviews over the past few weeks, such as this one. And I think with Michael being who he is, he would be entirely amused at knowing he has pissed off exactly the right people. So while I could certainly see him in private having a reaction like the one in AL's story--more than understandably so, given how nasty some of the reviews and comments were--that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good reaction to have publicly. And I think Michael knows that, too.
What also adds to the disconnect for me is that a few hours later, an article that Michael had written as a rebuttal came out in the New Statesman:
What Michael wrote is a brilliant repudiation of remarks made by a Tory MP--a piece that is intelligent, snarky, direct yet unfailingly eloquent. It wasn't just Michael defending his show, but using it (and Nye) to make a point, to make clear what he believes in, and to stand for the truth. And in much the same way that Michael's acting and oratory skills elevate any piece of work he performs, his writing conveyed that same depth, and it came across as effortless as everything else he does.
Which again left me with that feeling of disconnect when looking at Michael's article side-by-side with Anna's Insta story. It's not even that I disagree with her in this instance, as I do think the reviews were unduly harsh and devolved entirely too quickly into personal attacks in the comments. It's that when it comes to acting/directing, criticisms are part of the job, and whether she intended it or not, an Insta story like AL's conveys a sense of unprofessionalism. And when you put it next to Michael's writing, it looks more like a teenager throwing a fit instead of an adult giving a fierce clapback, which again probably was her intention.
Also keep in mind that everything I just wrote is predicated on the idea that someone seeing this story knows what AL is talking about. But I have to wonder how readily apparent it was, because it's so vague that it would probably be difficult for most people to suss out what she is referencing. So it's confusing to me that she is seemingly charging to Michael's defense...but without actually saying his name or the name of the show. Again, it feels like there is a disconnect/sharp contrast between Anna vague-blogging and how specific and incisive Michael was in that article, and it seems like they're not even close to being on the same page.
Those are my thoughts on Anna's Insta story from this morning. It's definitely a fair bit of whiplash, especially given the drastically different tone of her last few recent posts. But I'm interested as always to hear from my followers with your take, regardless of whether you agree or disagree. Thank you for writing in! x
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mishapen-dear · 5 months
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I read that same fic earlier and I just straight up muted the person so their works don't show up for me anymore lmao
there was also another one like that posted yesterday because the person was mad at something qBad did a couple of days ago while not at all in his right mind and amnesiac, it was odd (not shitting on the person just confused and slightly concerned)
yeah there’s. a lot of misconceptions around qbad rn lmao. It’s one of the reasons Im so obnoxious about him, tbh, so that it’s not JUST the negativity that gets spread. He’s a really good target for the hate rn, because he has a smaller fanbase and his pvp playstyle + lore lead him to all that antagonizing during purgatory, and that gets vented out into fics.
It’s genuinely really interesting, the dichotomy that seems to exist between tumblr and twitter regarding him. Ive heard nothing but slander about bbh from twitter (again, he is not faking his illness, that is a lie), but he’s got a solid enough foothold on tumblr that ive seen more hate towards the fans that the cc, here. which makes sense, given how we take over the tag almost ever day when he logs on. genuine o7 to people who find that obnoxious but thats one of the reasons i overtag so much, for blocking purposes.
anyway i think all the bbh mischaracterization means that we just need to write about him more >:D please this is a call for more bbh centric fics from people who do not hate him/know a little bit about his lore. blease he’s such a fun pov to write i promise
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golbrocklovely · 6 months
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idk if you’ve seen but kong pham just uploaded a podcast with snc
it was filmed months ago though i’m pretty sure because it seems like it was before colby did chemo?
anyway around 37 minutes in colby talks about how he had a break down and just cried about everything last year and it shocked me i can’t lie… i hope it made him feel better though
yeah it was filmed back in april right before colby went thru chemo. i was a bit confused as to why sam never mentioned kat and him breaking up, and now it makes sense since they didn't announce they broke up until may (even tho they had broken up back in march) lol
and yes, it was really shocking to hear about colby breaking down, but also at the same time…. it makes total sense. a lot of us on here have been saying for a long time that last year was a really rough time for colby. the later half of the year was just a shit storm for so many reasons towards him, he himself even said he wasn't feeling his best at the time, and it makes so much sense that he would have had a break down finally after years of holding everything in.
i might be making a controversial opinion here, but everyone hear me out before you jump down my throat: while snc both get hate for extremely dumb things, colby is the one that takes it the hardest, and also gets it the worse. sam, at the very least, seems like he doesn't let it bother him. i think bc so many ppl give him love and support, he's able to push the negativity away. but colby, whether he'll ever admit to it or not, can't do that - even with all the love he gets. he doesn't let things go as much as sam does.
and it makes total sense to me. colby wants everyone to like him. and i get that. i was the same way for a very long time. it's hard when someone starts to hate you for whatever reason. you want to prove them wrong, and you'll do anything to be in their good graces again, only to realize… did you ever even care that much in the first place. opinions affect colby on a deeper level bc he wants to be seen as a good person. and he is. but when you have other ppl shitting on you, for example, for tweeting out about international women's day or that your facial hair is ugly or literally judging you for every girl you put yourself near, and it's CONSTANT…. you're eventually gonna snap. tbh, i'm surprised colby hasn't completely removed himself from twitter and insta altogether just bc of the hate those sites have given him for the past couple years.
2020-21 were the worst times to be a fan, so i can ONLY IMAGINE how terrible it was for colby, who was getting the brute force of it. i remember the disgusting death threat he got. he left twitter for like over a week, and then never returned to that site the same. that's why the balcony tweets stopped. and then when he lost his journal, one of the only ways he's ever been able to express himself deeply, ppl cheered about it in the replies. and some of those ppl were fans of ppl he was friends with.
sam gets hate, sure. i won't deny that ever. but colby… it is truly unlike anything i've ever seen in all my years of being online. and i swear the ppl that send him mean shit, it's like they know it hurts him and revel in it. he gets called out for every fuck up, even if sam has done the same, bc ppl know he'll actually feel guilty and apologize for it. they want to see him break, i truly believe that.
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teaveetamer · 7 months
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Also also something I thought of while I was making prev post, and something I've been thinking of the past few days since y'know went and tried to put my anon on blast on Twitter.
It's just kind of wild how the death spiral of negativity continues with, again, Certain People. Cuz I mean. Like what on god's green earth possesses you to take random social media posts you don't like and try to blast them all over every platform you could possibly find. What even fuels that kind of misery. I can't even imagine.
I'm trying to not piss in anyone's cornflakes m'dude, at least with regard to the actual meta discussion stuff (happy to piss in your cornflakes all day when it comes to your harassment tho). I intentionally use this blog in a way so that people do not accidentally stumble across my posts. Every time you post a screenshot of one of my posts (or anyone's posts really cuz you do this with everyone) or shit talk my takes it's like you're scooping my piss out of the toilet, dumping it in your own cereal bowl, and then screaming "WOW LOOK AT THIS BITCH OVER HERE PISSING IN MY CORNFLAKES!!! HERE LOOK *sprinkles piss in every direction*"
You must realize that people are eventually going to start noticing that you are the one sprinkling them with piss, right? Your fandom identity is literally just being a curator of highly-specific, tailored ragebait )and then constantly complaining about how you have to keep looking at stuff that baits your rage). Most people wouldn't even know 90% of these posts exist if you didn't keep calling attention to them, and you don't have to look at them if they upset you that much.
At this point I'm genuinely not even mad about him screenshotting multiple posts of mine and posting them elsewhere or shit talking me. I'm honestly just baffled. Like, I refuse to believe he thinks he looks cool at this point given how embarrassing it is.
Clearly it's not earning him a huge fandom presence. I think every single blog I've ever run has had more followers than his twitter, including this one, which was literally made in the midst of Tumblr's deadest fucking userbase period (post NSFW ban, pre-Reddit and Twitter setting themselves on fire) and where I literally never tag anything and intentionally try not to appear in searches.
It can't be because he wants to make sure people avoid me, cuz I've gotten heaps more engagement since he started directing people to actually look at my blog (that's kind of what happens when you scream "HEY LOOK AT THIS! HERE'S THE USERNAME AND LINK!!!" over and over. I assume he's aware that when you keep telling people to look at something they might actually go look at it).
If he was looking to "pwn" me in some sort of epic battle for the heart of the fandom then I hate to break it to you, but anyone who communicates via anime girlie screenshots has already owned themselves harder than anything I could ever hope to do to them.
So like, yeah. Genuinely confused over here. Unless he's just that angry when people disagree with him that it's worth cutting off his nose to spite his face.
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rainbowsky · 1 year
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hello, I read on twitter that last time as well it was esquire that gg had shot for and did a 3 hour interview with but it got scrapped because it was leaked. recently I also came across ggs song leak through your blog. so everything that gets leaked doesn’t actually reach the audience as a full product? im a little taken aback thinking of all the hard work people put into something and suddenly because of some nosey people all their hard work goes to vain, I hope I’m wrong :(
Hi Anon,
If I had a dollar for every issue that began with the phrase, "I read on Twitter that..." 🙃
I wish people would not open up old wounds by bringing up these past situations. There's nothing good that can come out of it, and all it really does is cause more anxiety and confusion among fans.
It appears you might be conflating and misunderstanding a few things, perhaps being given unverified information.
The previous Esquire shoot took place around the time 2/27 was still at its peak, and it's unknown how much of that played into the situation. Yes, there was a leak, but there were also anti campaigns trying to pressure the magazine to scrap the cover.
There were some appearances and projects that were cancelled because of 2/27, and we'll never know the full scope of it or what was due to 2/27 and what was due to other factors.
The song leak had nothing to do with its cancellation. It wasn't leaked until a year after it was supposed to air.
Leaks do have a negative impact on stars and their projects. However, there is a lot of speculation, incorrect and misleading information that swirls about these things as well.
Ultimately it's completely pointless to worry about these things, and I think it's harmful to keep dredging them back up. I look forward to the day when GG can have positive things happen without people always bringing up those dark times.
Here's an idea: How about we all get excited about the fact that GG is going to be on the cover of Esquire rather than making everything in his career into a tragedy?
And a gentle suggestion to you, Anon, to maybe rethink who you're following if this is the kind of thing you're stumbling across. Our experience of fandom is something we have control over, and it starts with curating what we see.
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mashounen1945 · 1 year
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Sudden thoughts on anime series & videogames localizations
I'm seeing a lot of rumours about who's actually writing the story and the Japanese & English scripts for the upcoming Sonic Frontiers, which version is the true, untainted original one... And it's getting very confusing and frustrating (for me, at least).
Many think someone at Sonic Team wrote the original story and script in Japanese, and then Ian Flynn wrote the English version with slight changes; this seems to fit the way SEGA usually oversaw the writing process in other recent tie-in media. However, in an interview with Japanese members of Sonic Team, it was stated that Flynn wrote the story and script in English first, and then Sonic Team translated the script to Japanese while making changes in order to make it "more suitable to Far-Eastern audiences". We still don't truly know what's the exact process behind the writing and translation of stories for any kind of official Sonic media currently, or how much creative freedom Ian Flynn & co. are actually given when writing either the IDW comic or the story for Frontiers.
There's only one thing we can be sure about: both the changes in the story during translation and this kind of cooperation between Western and Japanese writers are something intentional, planned and coordinated now. Long gone are the days of Archie comic writers spitting out "licensed fan-fiction" and SEGA also refusing to help them in the first place by providing translated copies of recently released videogames.
At this point, we all must remember that no matter if the original version of the story was written by Flynn or Sonic Team, no matter how good or how bad it is, both Flynn and the writer(s) at Sonic Team were aware of what each other was planning for this game's plot. Whatever the story for Frontiers turns out to be, it'll be the work of both of them together, instead of one party selfishly taking liberties and refusing to inform or collaborate with the other. Therefore, once Frontiers is released, the appropriate thing to do will be that any type of criticism -positive or negative or otherwise- of the story be directed at both Ian Flynn and Sonic Team, perhaps even treating them as only one team of writers. None of that "SEGA is keeping Flynn-senpai's hands tied!" or "Ugh... Yet another Yankee writing licensed fanfic" bullcrap.
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On a related note, thanks to the English and Japanese versions of the trailer for Frontiers, we do know at least what kind of differences there might be on the game's final release; on one scene shown during the trailer, Sonic in the English script sounds more focused on dealing with the new threat while Japanese Sonic sounds much more worried about his friends. This has already been true for many 3D Sonic games, starting with Sonic Adventure 1.
Now, we could complain all we want about frequent inaccuracies in Western localization, or about how certain studios seem to be very obsessed with adapting Japanese media for the USAmerican audience at all costs even when that same audience tells them "No, there's no need to do that, we're actually interested in learning about original, unadulterated Japanese culture". But I've recently been learning from people vastly more educated than me about this stuff (oh, and I've also seen one "Fonseca" guy from the IDW Sonic comic vomiting one of those wild hot takes you can only expect from Twitter), and I've realized how irreconcilably different Western (not necessarily USAmerican) and Japanese cultures actually are. Making translations from Japanese to English as literally accurate as possible -as demanded by several fans of multiple Japanese videogames and anime series- might even be detrimental and something to be actively avoided. In any case, perhaps localizations are bad only when they reach ridiculous extremes (like many dubs made by 4Kids) or when the resulting Western version of the story is tonally dissonant in a way that the Japanese version wasn't (as it happened with Sonic Forces). Even then, that kind of region-based differentiation between versions of one same story or main character is often something planned and approved by the people in charge of the Japanese anime studios and videogame developers instead of something a few English dub studios do for shits and giggles; it's still common practice, and sometimes, this is even intended by the original authors: Naoto Ōshima once said that he and the others at Sonic Team had the USAmerican audience in mind when they created Sonic (even though Takashi Iizuka would kind of say the opposite later).
Perhaps I should use a more famous example...
When the original Dragon Ball manga was adapted to anime, especially during the Dragon Ball Z era, Toei subtly changed Goku's portrayal by making him a bit more typically heroic, as well as allowing Takao Koyama and others to write filler episodes and do pretty egregious alterations to other characters' portrayals such as making Krillin more cowardly and Rōshi more perverted than in the manga. Contrary to what happened with Ōshima and Sonic, this is a case of the original authors not having given their thumbs-up to those changes, and of course, Akira Toriyama rightfully criticised Toei for this (at least in regards to how they wrote Goku), but that's not why I brought this case up. What I want to point out here is… This is very similar to how the early English dubs amped up certain traits of the cast until making them more similar to traditional tropes of USAmerican action cartoons and superhero comics ("Superman of Japan" Goku, scaredy underdog Krillin, grumpy dad Piccolo, cool "jerk with a heart of gold" "actually a victim of Frieza the whole time" anti-hero Vegeta). Studios such as Saban and Ocean, as well as Funimation in its early years (and even today, to some degree), are rightfully blamed for this, but it's also worth noting that Toei never seemed to have a problem with how they were dubbing DBZ (even today, they don't seem to have much problem with Funimation's English dub of Dragon Ball Super taking cheap shots at Krillin again); since Toei was already doing the same sort of thing when adapting the manga in the first place, I find most likely that Toei and those studios dubbing DBZ into English always agreed on doing this specific kind of alterations to the original manga, both being under the impression this would help DBZ appeal to the USAmerican audience.
The Sonic fandom has always had great difficulty accepting the existence of multiple continuities within the franchise. I guess they'll have to accept, once and for all, that there are and there have always been at least two equally official versions for the Sonic series and for each character on it. And if they still care about the quality of the series, they'll have to care about each of those versions as two completely separate, vastly dissimilar, not inter-dependent things.
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smokingtiger · 10 months
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I hope you also made a post when JK solos were dragging Jimin to filth using animal names, SA and r*pe insults during FACE era (they are still at it btw). I won’t hold my breath on that happening since a lot of armys have collective amnesia when other solos drag Jimin but only wake up when it is their Tae and JK pookie bears getting dragged by Jimin solos. And then it is save vminkook from solos. And please don’t give examples of them defending Jimin against other fandoms.
Let’s treat all solos equally and not when armys feel like calling out when their fandom fav is getting dragged.
And if you did make a post about this on tumblr then I apologise for being snarky. I have seen too many OT7s showing this hypocrisy (even today) and if you didn’t then I guess you think Jimin is fair game to be dragged by other member’s solos, right?
Well, I did make a post about when tae solos and jimin solos were both going after one another and even addressed a few vmin-centric asks that followed my initial comments on the entire situation + accusations against their friendship. I didn't even mention Jungkook during these instances.
What I will say is that I don't always see every single smear campaign nor hateful trend given how my Twitter algorithm works. I have a friend who will come into my Twitter DMs and ask "did you see [insert this]" or "have you heard [insert this]" and my answer is usually no. I have 100+ words muted on Twitter, so I do a good job of shoveling most of this hateful shit off of my timeline. I don't particularly think that it's good for my mental health, but if I do see it and it drives me to anger, I might talk about it.
Also, I will accept the apology, but I do think it's best to do a little digging through someone's account before making a heated ask. Trust me, I probably have done the same thing, so it's fine, I get it. I have defended Jimin several times on this platform, even if it wasn't necessarily about solos, but just his haters in general. I am quick to shoot down the p*do accusations, as well as the countless claims that he makes the other members uncomfortable.
I love Jimin with all of my heart (he's my bias wrecker), but I don't always make a post about every new hate comment made towards him, or else I'd be here all day. This is my first time talking about antis lashing out against Jungkook, too. There is just so much junk online, I'd rather make silly little posts that don't really mean much in a massive sea of information.
Usually, I stick to inner-fandom drama because I disregard the opinions of outside voices who'd rather make a fuss over nothing. Who gives a fuck about what a toxic BLINK says? Who cares about what a salty EXO-L wrote? We know they're just doing it to be hateful and that there isn't any true validity to any of their statements. Of course, if the hate train is significant enough, I might weigh in, I am a 2015 ARMY who has been on the other end of online negativity and how it has affected not only the fanbase but the boys themselves. Fan wars are not something I particularly enjoy engaging in, but if you scroll through my asks, you can see I'm more comfortable voicing my opinions on matters that occur within BTS' fanbase, especially about the ugly side of shipping.
Some Other Asks I Have Answered: General Confusion about Solos Does Jimin make Jungkook uncomfortable? Are VMIN still friends? Toxic Taekookers Compilation (vs Jimin)
This might not all be super specific in dissecting Jimin vs Solos/Antis, but you can see that I am very much against the negativity this boy receives + the baseless theories that try to defame him.
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Everyone stream Like Crazy, I haven't stopped listening to it and it's starting to become a problem. I stream it for a minimum of five hrs a day... someone send help.
edit: also, I will say, just because someone doesn't make a post about something doesn't necessarily mean they agree/disagree with it. Like, just because I said "Solos don't attack Jungkook" does not mean I said "It's okay for solos to attack Jimin." ... It just reminds me of that one tweet: You can say "I like pancakes" and somebody will say "So you hate waffles?" No bitch. That's a whole new sentence. WTF are you talking about.
I just think the rule of thumb is: don't attack people. at all.
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akuma-homura · 11 months
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I think the reason I do get weirdly defensive and perhaps petty about KAITO is because seeing peoples negative responses to him just has me remember when the whole KAITO abuse stuff in fandom was rampant and just,,, hating it
Like, it was weirdly common for people to draw him straight up being physically attacked??? Like, Meiko being physically abusive to him but you know it's okay it's played for ~comedy~ also we're going to justify it by giving him a perv personality it's fine you know it's fine he deserved it anyway
hghgh. (god I hated the perv KAITO interpretations in early fanon too but that's another tangent entirely)
I hated it so much back then and thus I hate seeing even people disparaging him even now
like even if it's meant jokingly. i can't tell. some people seem to genuinely hate him which is. Bizarre to me bc even if I'm neutral on some Vocaloids, I don't hate any of them either--
also of course there's personal reasons, KAITO has been my favorite for over a decade now for me, 14 years now. He's genuinely important and special to me, I use his voice so often, he's my main muse and creative inspiration (>looks over at Kadin and everything that has come of them)
and it's not being men attracted or whatever either since I am........ not attracted to men. Outright. Also being aroace spectrum anyway, but. (because i've seen that???? come up??? idek sekai twitter takes are........... well. sekai twitter takes. the less I see them the better)
this also isn't me saying everything released with him is perfect-- I have my gripes and criticisms against how KAITO_Straight(which is supposed to be the /normal/ vb for KAITOV3....) sounds, I'm still confused why they describe his hair in Sekai as 'slightly curled' when it's not even SLIGHTLY curled save for maybe a couple strands those absolute cowards could have given him FLUFFIER HAIR BUT NO IT LOOKS PRACTICALLY STRAIGHT AND WEIRD tangent.
waves hands. i have strong feelings about KAITO and he is very important to me basically so i don't like seeing people being mean about him
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leighlew3 · 2 years
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Hey, how are you? I am a bit confused, I keep noticing on twitter people talking that Mon-El was supposed to be in the finale way more than he ended up being which was due to the trend the fans made. Is that like officially confirmed? Do we know how much more there was to be of him or what kind of scenes he was supposed to be in? Thank you.
Hi! I’m good, thank you. Ditto. 
Well, there's no way to know for sure. Alas, based on many factors and certain evidence, here's a theory...
I personally don't think he was ever meant to have a large role in the finale simply because, well -- he's just not that important of a character to the show, lol. Despite what the few pockets of remaining fans who do like the show's cringey version of the character may feel or believe, he was sent packing ages ago for a reason, and the awful way they used the character and bad messaging it sent nearly destroyed the show and wasted its prime years. And clearly most media and critics agree, since very few outlets write about him the last four years at all, and when they do it's usually very negative and unflattering, especially when compared to how they write so often and so universally positively about Lena, for example.
So I really tend to believe, much like with the 100th -- though more limited, given how much stuff needed to be crammed into the series finale -- that he was probably always meant to just have a small cameo (I even said ahead of time that his role in the finale was likely to be small, and was proven right), simply for nostalgia. I can also tell you that one of the limited "scoops" I'd heard early on in S6 was that as of early/mid season there was no talk of his return bts, no indication he was coming back that most people bts knew of anyway, and the showrunners even effectively confirmed as much by saying around that same time, "We know how it ends, he's likely not a part of it." (paraphrased). Also important to keep in mind that up to that point, Benoist had said she liked how they planned to end the series. So the belief by some that she possibly requested he be there as endgame or whatever simply doesn’t track. He clearly wasn’t in the early S6 plans to be involved in the end, and she seemed totally fine with that. 
But then something shifted late season, and they seemingly decided relatively last minute (?) to bring him back for a cameo, and/or must have realized the creative direction they were going in the finale made room for his (and Winn's) returns.
That being said, do I think the worldwide anti-Mon-El trend possibly lead to the already small role being reduced even further on the fly for damage control due to the backlash from fans when they realized such a polarizing character was back again? Honestly, kinda yeah.
And hey, maybe that's not accurate, but it seems very plausible. In part because it was a tad interesting how Winn and James were there for the battle, funeral and wedding while he wasn't there for the wedding. And because it seemed based on bts footage that there were more scenes and/or dialogue involving him and the group in that final battle, yet it didn’t make the cut. Also because it seems based on bts pics as well vs the final airing that they possibly shot the funeral scene twice -- and what aired was him saying he had to leave, which makes you wonder if an alternate version had someone inviting him to the wedding. There was even a composer who indicated on Twitter that he was working on the Karamel-related score or something (didn't know they even had one, lol) but we never saw anything epic of them fighting together in battle for more than a blink, nor having a moment at the wedding obviously, nor anything that would warrant any kind of a special 'theme' for them (unlike what Supercorp had in the 100th).
And lastly, it seems interesting how much they really went out of their way to bury that ship forever the way they did, after the trend. As if to say "OKAY, WE HEAR YOU" (finally). They could have had him simply say he's gotta return back to the future and they leave it sorta open ended and upbeat, but they really just had him say with finality "I'll never be back." to kill all potential for that ship forever, and they had Kara barely be phased by it at all and never look back, and that was that, and he was gone easily, and forever. Meanwhile Winn and James were at the wedding and the focus for Kara was on her identity issues (aka the big coming out metaphor) and sharing her final/key moments with Lena and her family/friends, as happy as ever.
TLDR: I think his role was never meant to be that big in the finale either way, but it likely could have been chopped down even further after that trend, especially because they didn't even feature him in the trailer except as a tiny blip in the funeral background. They clearly (finally) realized that his presence was doing more harm than good, and decided to not only not really market it much ahead of time, but also possibly cut it down in filming and editing as well.
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re: riddhe, "invested in" is a bit of a stretch so it doesn't really bother me too much to see him bashed, it's more like he's the character who i was compelled by most when i watched. i tend to enjoy rivalries/uneasy allegiances/relationships that revolve around strong ideological differences so i was already primed to like his relationship with banagher, especially in their fight against loni, and was even willing to buy his proposal to/romance with mineva as a sort of political marriage or marriage of convenience thing until it became clear in the OVA that mineva was barely going to be giving him the time of day, which kinda ends up breaking down the main trio both as an interesting ongoing interpersonal dynamic and as synecdoches for their respective factions (i.e. banagher as the vist foundation, mineva as zeon, riddhe as the political branch of the earth federation). i think there are some parts of the novels' characterization that line up, but my main feeling when i read your post about episode 3 was that i'd been so robbed because so much of that characterization was just completely absent, not even necessarily that it was replaced by something worse. i like that riddhe in the novel has stronger convictions, and that portrayal of him probably has an edge on his OVA portrayal because it eases some of my biggest pain points with unicorn's politics overall, but i also like characters who have flawed, conflicted motivations, it's just that the OVA feels like it's pulling a lot of punches. there's probably going to be more to say once we get to his heel turn and subsequent face turn because that's when i felt riddhe becoming really sloppy and incoherent as a character, so i'm interested in how that's handled in the books especially given that he is more or less a completely different character.
re: unicorn in context of UC/gundam, i personally found unicorn deeply frustrating and self-defeating and confusing when everyone else talks about it like it's "a love letter to UC" (focusing more on first gundam through char's counterattack, i think f91 and victory are doing their own things enough and drawing less on specific characters and events from previous installments) but from what i gather you seem to like it? i think my basic complaint is that gundam 00 handles the themes around newtype stuff, the power of communication, belief/faith/religion, and even smaller stuff in unicorn like agency and problematized humanity leaps and bounds better, so what does unicorn have to say about UC specifically and what "purpose" does it serve as a UC story? i still have some problems with it that would have remained problems if it were an AU installment, but being so tied into the continuity of UC makes it harder to write off or reconcile. again though this may be more relevant to revisit at the end of the series.
Ahhh, I see. I feel like a lot of the commentary from people I personally follow re: Unicorn is quite negative, so it seems my fandom context is a little different than yours. Not so much on tumblr where I'm posting analysis, but like, UC Gundam fans broadly whose opinions I respect on Twitter or whatever. Even people who like Unicorn (or parts of it) seem to have significant complaints in my circles.
Coming at it from that angle specifically, hmm… it's complicated. I do think it would be easiest to talk about this at the end. There's a lot of different things going on that I'd have to untangle in my brain. Plus, I want to see how the anime does it, because I know Frontal's story ends differently, and he's a huge deal to me.
I haven't watched 00 yet-- started and liked what I watched a while back, just got sidetracked by life and never circled back. GWitch is the only AU I've watched all the way through. God, there's so much Gundam in the world. Sometimes I think about what I'll watch next when the Unicornbrain finally recedes, and it's so daunting.
Everything you said about Riddhe makes a lot of sense. I do think a lot of the "worse" I'm perceiving is that he feels boring to me (though I also just have a personal grudge against sheltered wealthy 20-somethings who give guilt-trippy love confessions to teenagers. I dated this exact genre of guy for nearly a decade of my life). If they made him less sympathetic in a way I thought was interesting, I'd still be annoyed to not get to see the character I liked, but I might be able to get into it as its own thing.
I do think the OVA feels like it's pulling more punches than the novel, not even on an actual plot level necessarily so far, but like… the "vibe" of the world and the people in it, if that makes sense…? I talked about Syam feeling ethereal and like his edges have been sanded down, and I feel something similar about a number of minor characters, and also just the unnamed people existing in the world. They feel less tangible to me. More abstracted. I have no idea if I'm being coherent at all right now, but hopefully you get what I mean.
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The Manuel Problem
The only thing more predictable than the transphobic jokes in Ricky Gervais’ new Netflix special, SuperNature, was the criticism they elicited.
One problem with SuperNature is that Gervais clearly signposts his satirical intentions. He explicitly states at the start of his show that he will “say something I don’t really mean, for comic effect.” But later he says, “I support trans rights.” This may have been intended as a disclaimer to appease the Twitter wrecking crew who are often so quick to trash a performance that they have not actually seen, but it comes across as a pre-emptive dismissal of criticism. And it doesn’t quite work. If your schtick is using a clueless persona to say horrible things ironically, you can’t hop out of character every so often because it demonstrates that the person with the microphone knows that what he’s saying is awful. It’s far more comically effective to just be unremittingly awful. Some people may not get the joke, but at least your act will be semantically coherent and if people react negatively, you’re on much safer ground in defending yourself.
The reason the David Brent character works so well is that he has no idea he is such an awful person. He blunders through two entire seasons of The Office completely mystified as to why everyone doesn’t love him—all the while demeaning, undermining and patronising everyone around him. In this, he resembles Basil Fawlty, who in Fawlty Towers believes himself to be a better class of person without any justification, routinely humiliating everyone around him for no reason at all. Andrew Dice Clay, whose impersonation of a misogynist and homophobe made him the first stand-up comedian to sell out Madison Square Garden in 1990, also ventriloquised an imperious, self-righteous idiot on stage—although the men playing both Dice and Basil Fawlty appear to have morphed into their characters over time.
Gervais jarringly claims onstage that his transphobic jokes are “a way of satirising attitudes.” This suggests that he is trying to signal that he is being ironic. However, by declaring that this is his intention, he allows for the exact opposite conclusion—namely that the ironic bit is his ostensible support of trans rights.
John Cleese claims that he was regularly dismayed by racist fans who congratulated him for Basil Fawlty’s treatment of Manuel, the Spanish waiter in Fawlty Towers, because they thought Manuel was an accurate depiction how stupid foreigners are and that Basil was justified in abusing him. One running joke in the show is that Manuel’s inability to speak fluent English is misinterpreted by the hotel manager as stupidity. The script was designed to parody prejudiced English attitudes, but some people confused Cleese’s unsubtle portrayal of a racist, class-obsessed buffoon with an avatar of British exceptionalism.
Cleese had underestimated the level of xenophobia among the mainstream BBC audience—probably because he himself lived and worked with artists, writers, actors and other creative people: a group that tends to be open-minded and liberal. One charitable interpretation is that the reactions to Ricky Gervais’ jokes about trans issues illustrate what we might call the Manuel problem.
Ricky Gervais is not alone in his preference for controversial topics. When Jimmy Carr made a Holocaust joke last February in his Netflix show, His Dark Materials, it caused outrage. When Dave Chapelle made arguably milder jokes about trans women in his Netflix special, The Closer, LGBT activist group GLAAD called him out for “ridiculing trans people and other minority communities.” So, given the backlash they face, why do comedians so often make jokes that they know some will find offensive?
Ever since Lenny Bruce revolutionised stand-up in the 1960s by using the words “cocksucker” and “schmuck” in his act and refusing to back down, even after multiple arrests for public obscenity, some edgy stand-up comedians have operated under a series of unspoken assumptions. One is that a comedy gig is not a recital of a manifesto but a transgressive performance, in which the comedian can express outrageous ideas and confront whatever society doesn’t want to talk about. Many comedians feel that exploring taboo topics is an integral part of their job. One of the functions of comedy—or any confrontational art—is to provide a kind of catharsis, a release valve, by challenging societal taboos—or, at the very least, pointing out that the taboos exist.
As Reginald D. Hunter comments in his show, Live:
How do you get offended at a comedy show? How do you come to a comedy show and get offended? How do you come to a comedy show and bring your most sensitive self? How do you come to a comedy show and not suspect that the motherfucker on stage might be joking?
The problem is that nowadays those listening to the jokes have not always “come to a comedy show.” Jokes made in a performance space will leak out onto social media and be presented in an often unfair, context-free way deliberately designed to make the comedians look bad (since trashing people tends to get clicks and likes).
The gulf of awareness between the comedian and the person who “just doesn’t get it” has sometimes been dubbed the sarchasm. Some comedians feel they should never waste their time trying to explain themselves to people who seem committed to misunderstanding them. Those who do choose to engage with criticism are often met with a barrage of abuse and emotional outbursts, but very little concrete feedback as to what the problem with their jokes actually is. A lot of the criticism amounts to “I’m offended,” which most comedians will read as simply “I didn’t find this funny.” Most probably agree with Christopher Hitchens’ sentiment: “I’ve been told ‘That’s offensive’ as if those two words constitute an argument or a comment. Not to me they don’t.”
Comedians who see their colleagues castigated in the media for making dark jokes will feel an instinctive reflex to make even darker jokes in solidarity and, as they see it, to protect the art of stand-up comedy. The worse people’s reaction the more they will regard such people as prudes or would-be censors and the more likely they are to snap back at them with jokes from the abyss.
Sometimes, the only reason these jokes are funny is because they deal with subjects that you’re not supposed to talk about. The audience may act shocked, but they know that the stand-up comedian is challenging the mores of their uptight, repressed society. That’s what comedians do. And if you think that joke was bad, wait till you hear what’s coming in the second half of the show.
In his show, 90s Comedian, Stewart Lee argues that
if you attempt to apply limits to freedom of expression, either through legislation or intimidation or threats, what will then happen is that reasonable people, often against their own better judgement, will feel obliged to test those limits by going into areas they don’t feel entirely comfortable with.
Many stand-up comedians feel that they need to be allowed to fully express themselves as their medium demands, without being continually shut down or sealioned on a sentence-by-sentence basis. After all, has any art form been substantially improved by fact-checking?
But let’s get real.
Gervais claims that his target in SuperNature is not trans people but “trans activist ideology.” But this seems disingenuous when he is making jokes about “new women” with “beards and cocks.” This is exactly the kind of thing trans women have heard screamed at them right before being beaten to death. Although the absolute numbers of victims are small, trans people are four times more likely more likely to be victims of violent crime (perhaps especially black trans people) than cis people and things seem to be getting worse.
Comedians like Gervais are emotionally robust from years of working the punishing club circuit. They have the self-confidence to believe that, in the words of Eleanor Roosevelt, “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.” Those words are far harder to take to heart when you are part of a tiny and oppressed minority. As Stewart Lee puts it:
Who could be on a stage, crowing about their victory and ridiculing those less fortunate than them without any sense of irony, shame or self-knowledge? That’s not a stand-up comedian. That’s just a cunt.
Although a satirist should, of course, be able to punch in any direction he or she likes (and victimhood doesn’t confer virtue), as a rule, satire works better when the satirist is targeting the privileged and powerful or challenging prevailing cultural attitudes. Throwing an egg at a tramp will never be as funny as throwing an egg at the king.
Satire always has an intended target. Irony can be unintentional, but satire cannot. In jokes about “new women” with “beards and cocks,” trans people in general are clearly the punchline, not extremist activists in particular.
Satire works best when it mocks the audience directly to its face, not when it makes the audience feel comfortable about being united in their disapproval of a much-abused minority.
“What are you laughing at? You’re laughing at yourselves,” Nikolai Gogol writes in a line directed to the audience in his satire of Russian provincial attitudes, The Government Inspector. In Samuel Beckett’s Waiting for Godot, two tramps spend two acts of a play talking rubbish and engaged in repeated, futile acts. By mid-way through the second act, it has become clear the audience is the real target of the satire: we are being taken on a “quest without end.” In his satire of English policies in Ireland, A Modest Proposal, Jonathan Swift suggests that poor Irish people sell their children to rich people for food, thereby solving two problems at once. A surprising number of people thought he was being serious—a further indictment. This type of writing is what Eric Griffiths once called “a satire of what it would have been if it hadn’t been a satire.”  
Satire works best when you confront people with their own ridiculous opinions and make them laugh at them. Gervais himself has done this. In this Golden Globes bit, he mocks the assembled audience for their complicity in the crimes of Harvey Weinstein—a lovely example of satire done right.
The pretence of joking can often be used duplicitously by people who want to say things no civilized society would otherwise allow. While left-wing people (like Sarah Jeong) can use this tactic sporadically, it's often used wholescale by right-wing commentators and this kind of trolling—flooding the zone with shit—has become almost become a core value of the alt-right. 
Sometimes, also, people try out their opinions on the world and, if they get an adverse reaction, take refuge in the pretence that they were joking all along. Such people will also sometimes claim that the supposedly “hysterical” reaction to one of their outrageous opinions is the very thing that caused them to have that opinion on the first place. While the backfire effect indicates that fact-based criticism can paradoxically entrench illogical opinions, it cannot cause anyone to have those opinions in the first place.
Some people will always accuse their critics of having no sense of humour. That’s possible, but perhaps they really aren’t as funny as they thought. Or as edgy. Satire can lose its bite when huge chunks of the mainstream unironically agree with the sentiments being satirised and view it not as comedy but as simple support for their ideas.  
It’s the Manuel problem.
Areo Magazine, 9 June 2022
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ChroNoiR Moments I Love
I did not include anything from videos linked in my post on favorite ChroNoiR collabs.
I included moments where ChroNoiR isn’t together but the two of them are talked about or have some sort of interaction.
I included habits or things that both of them do repetitively.
Keeping this at 10 because if I don’t put a limit, I’ll end up linking every single video where ChroNoiR is so much as mentioned.
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★ Kanae Immediately Understanding Kuzuha’s Message
This is from the 2019-08-18 Project Winter collab with Sasaki, Lize, Ange, Fairys, Tsukasa, Shiina, Kuzuha, and Kanae. Most of the time, when talking about ChroNoiR in this collab, people mention the match where both of them were traitors and perfectly coordinated to win. 
While that was great and exciting, my personal favorite ChroNoiR moment in this collab is when Kuzuha chilled Shiina, and Kanae, who saw that, immediately understood that Kuzuha was trying to tell them Shiina was a traitor. From Kanae’s POV, this is around 40:30, while in Kuzuha’s POV, this is around 40:45.
If you watch from Kuzuha’s POV, you can also listen to him just praising Kanae and saying how he knew if anyone were to understand it would be Kanae.
★ Kuzuha’s Perfect Kanae Impersonation
This is from a PUBG collab with Ran, Sentan, Kuzuha, and Akabane. When Kuzuha comments that the others’ impersonations of Kanae were off, they ask Kuzuha for an example of what a good Kanae impersonation would be. Kuzuha delivers with what is now one of his memorable lines 「SE方面敵いるよ葛葉」(”Kuzuha, there’s an enemy in the SE direction”), and the other three, as well as the comment section, erupt in excitement over it. It’s around 52:45 in Baneki’s video.
Later, in the last ChroNoiR.tv episode, Kanae says the same line at around 15:00 as Kuzuha and the comment section note that they’re finally hearing the real version. Kanae even includes the “kyaaaaaaaaa” reaction from the original collab above.
(Note: Kanae actually says 「方向」while Kuzuha said「方面」but the phrase means basically the same thing.)
★ Kuzuha Talks About Kanae Tweeting a Formal Apology
In his solo stream, one of the topics Kanae talked about with his viewers were gropers and their victims. Unfortunately, some people interpreted part of his words negatively, so Kanae took down the archived video later on and also posted an apology on twitter.
Kuzuha, in his own stream , laughed when he saw Kanae’s apology, saying that he’s sure it’s because Kanae said something easy to misunderstand again. (Timestamp: 11:20:38) When his own viewers explained what caused the buzz, Kuzuha said that he can’t believe this is what the VTuber world has come to, and says that if the internet pitchfork mob is after Kanae for something like this, then they should come for him as well.
Personally, I thought it was really nice that Kanae tried to understand why it isn’t easy for victims to call for help. Yes, he did say he couldn’t understand why they couldn’t do something that seems easy, but it’s also true that he discussed these and listened to his viewers’ explanations with what I thought was a very genuine desire to understand. A Japanese viewer even commented that as a victim, she was glad Kanae had this conversation. 
★ Kuzuha Blaming Kanae for Something He Said
Kuzuha mentions in his solo stream (1:03:03) that his image of guys who play guitar are those who like hitting women. Upon realizing that he said something that could be taken negatively, he immediately backtracks and puts the blame on Kanae saying, “it was Kanae who told me that, but he probably won’t remember.” (Kanae’s character is someone who supposedly has amnesia)
In Kanae’s solo stream (26:05), his own viewers let him know about what Kuzuha said. Kanae only said that “if Kuzuha says that I said so then maybe I did, but I don’t remember”.
At the end of their ChroNoiR Donkey Kong stream (2:05:55), as Kuzuha jokingly blames Kanae for various things again, Kanae brings up the guitarist line blamed on him. As Kuzuha emphasizes that Kanae is currently confused and asks him to talk to his lawyer, Kanae responds with a threat to sue him and the stream ends with Kanae saying “see you at court”. This last interaction was especially funny for me.
★ ChroNoiR Introducing Themselves as Each Other
In ChroNoiR collabs, Kuzuha and Kanae frequently introduce themselves as each other. I just find it cute, especially when they both make fun of each other during the impersonation.
In one of these instances, Kanae tries mimicking Kuzuha’s introduction line but accidentally says 「ヴァンパイア吸血鬼葛葉です」 (Literally “I’m vampire vampire Kuzuha”) instead of the actual 「吸血鬼VTuber葛葉です」(”I’m vampire VTuber Kuzuha”). Unfortunately, I can’t find the original stream when he said that.
In an ARK collab (7:20:15), when Kanae successfully introduces himself as Kuzuha with the correct introduction, Kuzuha notes that he got it right this time. More recently, during their 2020 Christmas collab (0:27), Kanae once again introduces himself as Kuzuha using the wrong version (this time seemingly on purpose).
★ Kuzuha is 7 Hours Late; Kanae Gets Strawberry Au Lait
At their 2018 Christmas collab, Kuzuha is 7 hours late to their agreed meeting time (1:35). Later on (6:20), when Kanae says that wants one of the 3 cups of strawberry au lait that Kuzuha has, Kuzuha didn’t want to give one to him but relented in the end because Kanae reminds him that he was late. Because of this, Kanae is sometimes referred to as “the man who forgave 7 hours of lateness with a cup of strawberry au lait”.
★ Kanae Praising Kuzuha’s Singing
Kuzuha mentioned before that he doesn’t like singing in front of other people because of a previous experience where someone he called “Mysterious Mushroom Man” corrected his singing while they were in karaoke. So I actually love the times when either Kuzuha or Kanae mention that they went to karaoke together. 
My favorite is this moment in one of their Apex collabs where Kanae mentions this one song Kuzuha sang in karaoke that he considers his favorite among the songs Kuzuha sings. Kuzuha admits that he was happy to hear Kanae tell him his singing was good, and that he ended up singing that same song a lot in karaoke since then. It’s around 1:38:10 in Kanae’s POV and around 1:36:14 in Kuzuha’s POV.
★ Kuu-chan and Kanakana
Kanae sometimes calls Kuzuha “Kuu-chan” in order to tease him. This happened more often early in their careers, but still happens every now and then. Aside from the cute name, there is also the fact that Kuzuha will always reply with「やめろその呼び方」(”Don’t call me that.”) like clockwork.
Kuzuha doesn’t allow anyone to call him Kuu-chan. In fact, the only one in Nijisanji he has given explicit permission to use -chan with his name is Moira who calls him Kuzuha-chan. On the other hand, Kanae is called by a lot of nicknames, both by his collab partners and his fans. The most common one is Kanakana.
During one of Kanae’s chat streams (18:49), one commenter asked how he would react if Kuzuha called him “Kanakana”. In response, Kanae says that he probably wouldn’t be able to take it *insert disgusted noises* and just die on the spot. 
I find it so cute they hate the nicknames, especially from each other. And personally, while I love Kanae teasing “Kuu-chan”, I do adore the fact that they call each other by name.
★ "Because it’s Kuzuha”
This is from one of the CR cup practice matches when Kanae was part of Kanaminto (Kanae, Admin, Kamito). When Kanae’s party encountered Kuzuha’s, Kanae asked for time from his team to execute the finishing move on Kuzuha (1:25:03). “Because it’s Kuzuha”. Hearing the reason, his teammates immediately agreed as if it’s the most natural thing in the world.
During their team practices, Kanae did in fact tell his team beforehand that he would like to perform the finishing move if they encounter Kuzuha. It was so cute how excited he was to be able to actually do it.
★ Kuzuha Not Realizing that Kanae was Streaming
This apex stream is definitely one of the most memorable even just for the fact that Kuzuha was unaware that Kanae was streaming for a whole 30 minutes. Kuzuha joined the voice chat at around 27:25. When Kanae informs him that he’s streaming, Kuzuha asks to confirm that he really is streaming, but mishears Kanae’s answer「うん、そう」(”Yeah, I am”) as「嘘」(”That was a lie.”).
They continue to talk, with Kuzuha mentioning some unusual food preferences among others, until finally at 1:00:25, Kuzuha realizes Kanae is streaming when Kanae tells him about something from the comment section. The sudden change in Kuzuha’s energy was amusing to watch. It was probably partly due to the shock because Kuzuha mentioned he was just about to talk about confidential matters right around the time he finally realized.
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♥ ChroNoiR ♥
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same anon: sorry for that! but thank you so much for the response! it made sense to me with the clan and how wwx is treated like family and treats jyl and jc as family and then the fandom. thanks for clearing that up! though i'll probably get confused again i'm gonna bookmark that so i can have that handy when i get my copy since clan is gonna confused me again in a few months. maybe it should be house instead of clan lol
hello again, and yeah no probs! I know the (EN) fandom does tend to take it as given that, well of course WWX is adopted. But like... he very much is not, and that SHOULD inform how you examine the interpersonal relations, and how other people view the relations, thereof. I had said this in some twitter thread ages ago lmao, but if Wei Wuxian WERE adopted, then for some rando to call Wei Wuxian a servant's son would be a huuuge insult to the Jiang clan, and something they rightly could seek recompense or retribution for. And again, the distinction between treating something like family and them being literal (adopted) family is different. There's a political element to the distinction, and also a social (societal) difference, that does in fact affect the interpersonal imo.
Re: if it should be House - I don't agree, because "clan" is the term that IS the translation for a lot of the CN used, and also it's the one that makes cultural & historical sense for the way Chinese historical society (or how it's told through historical dramas or historically-inspired settings the way xianxia/wuxia can be). House is certainly the way GoT does it, ofc and... actually, maybe the way a lot of others do it too..? maybe that is the EN standard lmao.. huh... But I think it's bc a lot of European nobility (okay maybe I mean British here, or the like, public concept of British nobility) & like titles of inheritance and stuff are tied to estates and land. To a literal House, even, an ancestral "home" as synecdoche for the land, people living on the land in the case of tenant farmers or idk knights or whatever, and the title. Like British titles are like, Earl of whatever or Duke of whatever, right, and those are tied to a piece of land or to a specific manor or other such properties, and all accompanying it?
But for the Chinese side (and standard caveats blah blah I'm going quickly so these are generalizations and not definitive or exhaustive), the central key is more the family line (and usually a fortune yes, but it's considered collective, it's like... the investment by your ancestor into their future line - you, and then by you into your future). Which is why I think Clan makes more sense to me, because it's not about the land and the estate, it's very much about the *clan* and family line. I feel like the English/British version has this idea of the people belonging to the land & property & its title, whereas for the Chinese side it's a bit more like any land or property belong to the people/the family. Like the emphasis isn't on the land or the house, it's on the Clan, and the people related to the Clan. The power of the Clan is based in its members, titles are invested to people within MDZS, not inherited as property. (Which isn't to say Chinese history or media doesn't have inherited titles, just that for this specific example at least, I do think clan makes more intuitive sense to me than House, which I have a negative reaction to as being a "good" or viable translation or localization)
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