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#I think about Lilas and Diego
frozenwafflesagain · 10 months
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The Hargreeves As Quotes From My Ongoing IRL Quote List
Luther: "I'm nothing but a man of missed opportunities."
Diego: "If I don't have clout, what do I have? My mustache?"
Allison: "Not to be rude, but I am so much better than you right now."
Klaus: "If you didn't want me to talk, you shouldn't have said my name."
Five: "I thrive off of scorn from people I don't respect."
Brella!Ben: "If this is heaven, I don’t want to know what hell is like."
Viktor: "It's a good thing I don't use my powers for evil."
Lila: "I'm not saying it's your fault, but I did everything right."
Sparrow!Ben: "When I'm in the room, all compliments go to me."
Grace: "I'm so good at having fun!"
Reggie: "It takes 3 generations to become content with no free will. Take away free will and there's no problems."
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If Pennycrumb didn't disappear, Five would have gotten him.
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floriantheflowereater · 2 months
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hey there dielila what's it like in Hargreeves city
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twicecut · 3 months
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boop the ♥ and i'll throw diego into your inbox.
maybe he's helping your muse train at the gym (need a spotter? need someone to spar with?), maybe he's saving your muse's life, maybe he accidentally gets yours caught up in one of his bar fights...
or maybe something else entirely. but those are the three things rolling most around in my head.
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trashmaj · 1 year
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so if the universe reset in tua and season 4 is a whole new timeline without powers
did the commission reset as well?
do we have to deal with the handler again??
hazel and cha cha too??
the BOARD????
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hellomagicalsouls · 2 months
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also I need to talk about it cause I have the need to talk about everything cause I can't shut my mouth about hyperfixation.
✨‼️LILA HARGREEVES ‼️✨
(for looks good as hell)
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also she's wearing the handler's boots - nice little touch I see you netflix.
so I wonder if she just changed it or if they actually got married? wonder if we'll see any snippets of the potential wedding?
anyone that's all I wanted to say thank you 👋
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non-plutonian-druid · 2 years
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hello all i have an absolute monster of a meta essay for you that I like to call “The Umbrella Academy is so close to saying something about the concept of nuclear families and if the writers are doing it on purpose its going to be beautiful”. Its almost 2k words.
For the record, since i think its relevant and greatly informs my thoughts, i am a nonpartnering aromantic person and i strongly believe that the idea that a family is a pair of romantic partners and their children needs to go. Thats uh. Bigger than the scope of this essay. But it does inform a lot of my thoughts on this particular theme in the umbrella academy so there you go.
First, some semantics: technically the only family member to actually get to the point of “nuclear family” is Allison, who then divorces her romantic partner. Only her and, technically, Diego, have kids. Most of the others have love interests but because of the beauty of being different people with different life experiences, their particular romances often do not fall specifically into the the box “nuclear family”, though some could eventually given time (and some may not ever). That being said, associated with the term “nuclear family” is a pattern, historically, of children growing up and finding a romantic partner and moving out into a single-family home, where they have children raised only and specifically by them and their romantic partner, and they thus grow apart from their siblings and parents. This is a pattern that is held, at least in America, as The Best pattern, and anyone who does not achieve it is failing in some way. And that pattern, of leaving behind the family you grew up in to make a home and a family with a romantic parter? That’s everywhere in TUA. I would argue that the tension between the siblings’ urges to follow it, and between their urge to reconnect with each other, is one of the main themes and a main source of tension through all of the show.
Pre season 1, most of the Hargreeves build their own lives after escaping from Reginald, but only Allison creates her own family. Then, in season 1, a few relevant things happen
One, Allison is separated from her daughter, and desperately wants to return to her. Returning to her daughter inherently and repeatedly means separating herself from her siblings and returning to a family unit that does not involve them. I am not arguing that this is a bad thing, or that Allison should not be with her daughter; I am pointing out that the family Allison has with Claire is separate from the one she has with her siblings (There is one notable exception to this, based on my memory; Allison asks Luther to join her on her flight to LA in the Day That Wasn’t, after they rekindle their romantic relationship).
Two, Viktor begins a relationship with Leonard, who deliberately isolates him from them, which does fit the pattern but is kinda unfair to use to serve my point lol
Three, Klaus meets Dave. Klaus has the power to return to 2019 at any point he wants, and could even bring Dave if he so chose, but remains in the 60s away from the modern day and his family with Dave until Dave tragically dies.
and Four: the world threatens to end and the umbrella academy tries, badly, to fix it by coming together once again. Allison is constantly torn between wanting to help save the world and wanting to be with her daughter, Viktor is manipulated away from his family (not that the hargreeves probably needed the help lol), and Klaus breaks away entirely to spend months away from them with a man he falls in love with. Bad things? Not necessarily, apart from Viktor’s shitty boyfriend being abusive. But the beginning of a pattern.
Season 2. The Hargreeves have all had months or years in Dallas, and many of them are beginning new lives with new families.
Allison, once again, is married. Viktor has a blossoming relationship with a woman he loves and is devoted to taking care of her son, who he loves too. Diego has acquired a love interest as well (Lila my beloved), Klaus is trying to prevent his past-future boyfriend from enlisting, and Luther is trying to figure himself out. Obviously a major tension in this season is between Five trying to round up his siblings, and his siblings’ prioritizing their lives in Dallas, which they’ve built with hard work and are just getting used to. This does not involve a tension between a nuclear (or nuclear-ish) family and their siblings for all of them, but it does for Allison especially, and Viktor, and to an extent, Klaus. An important thing to note here is that the siblings are not averse to reuniting, as they often were in season 1. They have been worried about each other! They have been looking! and yet even once they reconnect their little lives stay separate. They talk about it, but do not invite their siblings into their lives. They meet love interests offhand, but do not integrate. All of them, even when trying to reconnect, still have two separate lives that they have to choose between.
Season 3. Oh boy.
perhaps not “oh boy” for the reasons that you think. The reason its “oh boy” is because there are three parts to how i will talk about s3: The romantic interests-slash-nuclearish families, the way the hargreeves talk about their own family, and The Ending.
First, Allison again. Allison begins the season once again wishing desperately to find Claire, and mourning leaving Ray behind. She leaves almost immediately, and gets to LA only to find that Claire does not exist. Getting to a world where Claire exists, or Ray exists, or both, becomes her motivation for the rest of the season, pitting her against multiple of her family members. Fair! She is more worried about the family she has lost than the family that is right in front of her and fine, which is perfectly reasonable. And obviously, she is considerably more invested in her toddler’s well being than her adult brothers’. What I point out is that once again, her family with her siblings and the families she’s made are separate entities from each other, and this fact is forcing her to choose between them.
Second, Luther. Luther’s relationship with Sloane begins similarly enough to previous ones in the show- Luther is making a choice between a romantic partnership and his siblings, it causes tension, the romantic partnership and his siblings form two different units and never the twain shall meet. But. Then Sloane gets folded into the Hargreeves siblings- or rather the Umbrellas, since she’s a Hargreeves too lol. Sloane is... not a character, no offense, but I’m presuming that she is supposed to be integrated with the Hargreeves since that is the impression of the writers intentions that I get and for the sake of being nice to them I will pretend that they succeeded. Interesting! A romantic partnership that is integrated into their family, and not existing as a separate one adjacent to the rest of them! That has never happened before. Even Allison and Luther’s romance is not Part of the family formed by the rest of the siblings; it is, narratively, treated as something separate
Three, Diego. And Lila. Once again, a change of pace. Lila comes here for Diego only at first, but quickly is embroiled in the Plot and the Family. Lila has always been more integrated with the family than other love interests, if only because she has much more plot relevance than most of them, but even then her primary real interactions have been with the Handler, outside of the family entirely; or Diego, with the occasional exception of trying to murder Five. This season she is fully and completely part of the family, and has one on one, meaningful interactions with not only Diego but Allison, Five, and Klaus as well.
 Two love interests in one season that arent separate from the rest of the family, huh?
So what about the way the Hargreeves talk about their family this season?
Allison begins the season once again wishing desperately to find Claire, and leaves almost immediately. Viktor encourages her to leave, believing that Claire still exists and that finding her will help Allison. To do so, he encourages her to find her “real family”.
Later, Klaus goes on a roadtrip to find his biological mother. On the way, he commiserates with Five about their lives, and they both wonder if what they have could even be called a family.
Contrasting, there are multiple scenes on multiple occasions in season 3 alone where Allison, Five, Luther--  all of them-- declare their love for each other. They’re a family. No matter what.
Hm.
Now The Ending.
The Ending is one of the saddest parts of the show to me, and makes me desperately hope that The Umbrella Academy gets a season 4, because The Ending leaves the siblings utterly divided.
Luther is searching for Sloane.
Diego and LIla are presumably going to build a life together with their future child.
Allison is all the way in LA, living an idyllic dream where both Ray and Claire are alive and returned to her.
Even the remaining siblings, who do not have lives laid out for them, have walked away from one another to return to normal, nonpowered lives. If the story ends here, in the tension between the family you grow up with and the family you build with a partner, the siblings have prioritized their own lives, and the family they’ve spent three seasons trying to reconstruct falls apart under the weight of.... living a normal life.
What I want from the Umbrella Academy, what I hope we get if there is ever a fourth season, is the Hargreeves figuring out what family works for them. They have constantly been pulled between their siblings and their own lives, and have almost never allowed the two to mix. I find the story of the nuclear family, where all people are expected to find a partner and have children and for that and only that to make a normal life, to be depressing and isolating. I desparately want the Hargreeves, who have been trying so hard to reconnect, to find a better story for themselves. Every season so far has been building a stage for this storyline. Season 3 is literally ending with many of the Hargreeves getting idyllic little family units while walking away from each other, and if that doesn’t spell “we’re going to be Dealing With That” then I don’t know what does. They really could be telling a story that says “Leaving the family you grew up in behind doesn’t have to be the only answer”. It could be so good. But do i trust the writers to realize what they’re doing, or is their writing just littered with unexamined assumptions about how families are structured? I just don’t know.
#tua#the umbrella academy#luther hargreeves#diego hargreeves#allison hargreeves#klaus hargreeves#five hargreeves#viktor hargreeves#i mention ben exactly zero times so he doesnt get tagged but hes here in spirit#ha#lila pitts#i dont think anything after the first five tags shows up in the main tags but whatever#writing this made my brain melt out of my ears and then i had to edit it? gross#i didnt have to edit it but i did want it to be like. readable and not complete nonsense#i could do an epilogue about five who also kind of has a little family off with delores#that is simultaneously necessary for his sanity and also always always second to his siblings#but i didnt really have anything to say about it other then 'thats a thing that happens!' so i didnt include it#not that this whole thing is THAT much more than 'thats a thing that happens!' but#anyway when talking about all this 'the little families they build with a romantic partner' and#'their lives they build away from their siblings that may or may not include a romantic partner'#are easy to get tangled up and i think i fell into that a few times#but im specifically trying to get at the common narrative of leaving beihind your old family to make a new one with a romantic partner#and how that doesnt need to be the only narrative to exist#you dont need to leave your siblings behind to build a family#the two do not need to be separate#they can be if that is what is good for your life#but they do not have to be#tua s3 spoilers#s3 spoilers#tua spoilers
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himbohargreeves · 1 year
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Your scone debate made me think of something: Lila is from England and Dave is from the Southern U.S., so you know they both have VERY strong opinions about tea. Dave drinks a cup of tea Lila made and complains about how it's bland and too hot and very UNrefreshing. Lila walks into the kitchen one day and sees him pour 5 pounds of sugar into a pitcher (not a kettle!!!) and about shits herself.
Then they see Diego try to make tea and they're both screaming at him because he didn't steep it long enough and he didn't add any lemon and he added sugar after it was already cold so it wouldn't dissolve right and he just sucks so much at making tea.
I firmly believe by the end of Lila’s pregnancy Diego will be an expert at brewing the perfect cup of tea tbh
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hannibutch · 9 months
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if i had a nickel for everytime a ship i loved had a scene where one begged the other to go somewhere with them so they could both be happy, but in the end they ended up separating, but not without looking back at the other for a second, i'd have two nickels.
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scottishstoner · 2 years
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On the last ep of s3 of the umbrella academy and I am nervous
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gothiclygf · 2 years
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Who else actually liked Lila in season 2 while everyone else was being over dramatic about hating her so much?
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hes expecting crossover with *rolls dice* umbrella academy
Honestly, I could do a lot with this for a lot of different ships.
It'd be really funny to see Lila and Diego having a He's Expecting situation because Lila has already been canonically pregnant (even if she maybe won't be in season four) so having Diego either get pregnant instead of next would be hilarious. He'd be so defensive and embarrassed about it and she would tease him mercilessly. To a point, of course, because the second anyone actually starts being asshole-ish then she would go feral and teach them to never do it again.
If it was done with Luther and Sloane then it would be really sweet with barely any angst other than Luther's insecurities. I think after so long being alone he'd love to be the one to help their family expand and Sloane would be 110% supportive the entire time.
Doing it with fiktor, or just Viktor in general, would also be really interesting. Having a He's Expecting universe in general would be fascinating because Viktor could get away with being pregnant even though he's AFAB because he wouldn't be outed through carrying a kid. It would also be interesting to have Five get pregnant after he spent so long killing people, or just have the AMAB person in a mlm relationship be the one that gets pregnant.
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ash-overthinking · 2 years
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Umbrella Academy spoiler musing because this won't leave my damn head-
So, in a possible S4, even if they time jump some, obviously they'll have to keep Five a teenager (I'm thinking he may get bumped to 15-ish?), so Umbrella fam, what's the likelihood we get an actual powered down teenage Five being forced out of retirement to live his worst Highschool AU life??
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twicecut · 5 months
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thinking about diego's stutter.
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amysosamybeloved · 2 years
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honestly even if tua s2 is not as good as s1 in terms of writing or whatever i think i'll always prefer it more because (if my memory serves right) it fleshed out the characters of colour way more because even if it wasn't perfect (people have talked about the race politics of this show way more coherently than me) i did like that characters like diego and allison got more depth (also s2 is where lila my overhated unlikable beloved shows up so i'm not complaining)
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sharkneto · 1 year
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For Anon who sent me the question about TUA S4 content spoilers but also everyone - Please do not send me info/ask me about production or filming things for S4! Outside of official promos and trailers and whatnot, I do not want to know about it! My goal is to go into S4 as blind as possible. I want to have no expectations so I'm not coloring my watch with what I think is or isn't going to happen.
Am I going to be successful in this endeavour? No. I'll see some spoilers for sure as they pop up on my dash and on Insta and Twitter and whatnot. But I'd like to limit it, if I can. I watched S1 and S2 without a scrap of prior knowledge of the show and had so much fucking fun, and I was relatively successful on avoiding anything too big on S3. I'd like to maintain that with our final go around, if I can.
I have the TUA S4 tag blacklisted right now, and you can do your part, too, by tagging and not asking me about it!
Thank you :)
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