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What If?
The Avengers cared for Tony as much as he cared for them
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How to recognize your friends. Part 4
Part 1.1, Part 1.2, Part 2, Part 3
Steve:
Tony:
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How to recognize your friends. Part 3
Part 1.1, Part 1.2, Part 2
Bruce:
Tony:
Part 4
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How to recognize your friends. Part 2
Part 1.1, Part 1.2
Tony's friends:
Tony:
Part 3
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How to recognize your friends. Part 1.2
Part 1.1
But Tony is always there for them:
Part 2
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How to recognize your friends. Part 1.1
Tony's friends are abandoning him when he needs them:
Part 1.2
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B.A.R.F. in Civil War
Have you ever wondered why we were shown B.A.R.F. technology in Civil War? I’ll tell you why. To show that Tony could have cured Bucky's brainwashing and PTSD with it.
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Tony saved Bucky?
Many people think that Tony wanted to kill Bucky in that bunker in Civil War. But not many watched the movie frame by frame. Look at this:
Did Tony just save Bucky from the falling structure? This is STRANGE, isn’t it? Let’s take a closer look:
Tony is punching Bucky. The structure is falling on them.
They noticed it.
Tony turns back to Bucky.
And throws him away from the falling metal.
While Tony stays there and gets pinned by the rubble.
Well, looks like he indeed saved him by throwing him aside and took the hit himself instead. Strange move for a guy who wants to kill.
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The MCU is NOT 616 Universe
One final reminder (I hope) that the MCU is 199999 Universe, not 616 Universe. They are NOT the same Universes. FAAAR from the same. If you are in fandom - know the basics please.
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FAQ
I see this post is needed.
What is the purpose of this blog?
Analysis of the MCU and its characters, with a main focus on Tony Stark. Why? Because he is the most misunderstood character in the MCU. Sometimes I write/reblog about Comics versions too. This is not a "pure fun" blog, it's a meta blog about a fictional universe. I use sources, facts, educated guesses, all that scientific stuff.
Are fandoms just for "pure fun"?
No, they are for people. People like different things, not just "fun" ones.
"Fun" varies from person to person. My fun is science.
Are Comics Universes and characters the same as the MCU and its characters?
No, they are not. See this post and this one. Examples from different comics universes: 1610 Tony had a "tumor" in his brain, which was actually an Infinity Stone. 616 Tony never had tumors or Infinity Stones in his brain. 9810 and TRN591 Tonys are Sorcerers Supreme, while 616 or MCU Tonys are not. 1610 Nick Fury is African American. 616 Fury is white. I can go on forever.
Does Comics Canon apply to the MCU?
No (see previous question), unless the traits shown in the MCU are the same as in the Comics. Example, Tony Stark has 3-7 PhDs in 616 Universe, but in the MCU he has 2 (see this post). Another example: Steve Rogers had a smoking habit in the comics, but in the MCU he doesn't smoke.
MCU canon is canon only for the MCU. 616 canon is canon only for 616 Universe. 1610 canon only canon for 1610 Universe. The canon of your favorite fanfic is the canon of that fanfic, etc.
Am I anti-Steve?
No, I am not. Do I criticize him? Yes, when there is something to criticize for. The same applies to any other character: Rhodey, Pepper, Wanda, etc. It is science. Deal with it.
Do I hate anyone?
No, I don't feel hate. Can get angry and annoyed though. In this case - sorry if I bite you.
Do I ship Tony with anyone?
I ship Tony with Happiness. If he is happy with Pepper - great. If he is happy with Steve - I ship it. If he is happy with Stephen - I ship it too, and so on. But if they hurt him - I don't like it. Do you expect me to like it? What would be weird. The ideal option is when everyone is happy, loves and cares about each other.
How to react if I wrote a comment on your post/reblog of my post?
If you're open to discussion, great, that's what comments are for. If you are overly sensitive, can't stand other people's opinions, or deliberately ignore the facts, then it is your right to ignore my comments. And it is my right to write them. Remember that. It is called "communication", and that's what Tumblr and other social networks are for. If you cannot communicate with other people - talk to yourself.
Will I come to your post to write a comment about how wrong you are?
Am I so terrifying? If I see something is wrong, like 2+2 is stated as 5, and not 4, I will probably tell you about it. But I don't do it for headcanons. Headcanon is your HEADcanon. You can have any headcanon you want. It is your right 100%. But if your statement about CANON is incorrect and I can prove it - I can come to you. Remember, it is my right to do so.
Examples:
You have a headcanon that MCU Tony is of Italian descent. I will not correct you because the MCU never mentions what his origin is.
You stated that MCU Tony has a drinking problem. I will come to correct you, because this is not true and I proved it here.
If you said 616 Tony has a drinking problem, I will not correct you because it's true.
You said that in fanfic N a kitten was saved by Clint, but it was actually Natasha. If I read that fanfic, I will come to correct you.
I think it's fair.
Do you have any questions?
Ask anything - my doors are always open. And I don't block people if I don't like what they say.
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The behavior of some individuals is a mystery to me
@areiton reblogged my post today, adding some tags, here they are:
You know me - I check facts. So I did, and wrote this comment:
Tell me if I'm wrong guys, I accept criticism. My doors are always open.
Few minutes ago I went to check new posts with "Tony Stark" tag, and saw this:
Ok... It is kinda mean, but I wrote a comment on this post, stating that if the user cannot tolerate corrections to the statements - it's not my problem, but the user's, and that doing this under MY post, that the user reblogged, is strange.
Now I found out that the user hid my comment under the post. This is pretty low behavior, don't you think?
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BFF
IM1 Rhodey after Tony said he won’t make weapons for the Armed Forces anymore: “I don’t need a pacifist friend”.
Rhodey after Tony became a weapon: “Best friends forever!”
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Tony is actually really good at shooting…
Obviously, he's not as good as Clint, and Rhodey is slightly better, but Tony is definitely a better marksman than Steve.
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Tony’s Childhood. Part 2.3. Effects: Bravery
Part 1, Part 2.1. and Part 2.2.
Backstory (read Part 1): Tony was sent to boarding school when he was just 7 years old. All the other students were teenagers from 9th to 12th grade. There he spent another 7 years without contact with peers, away from his parents and Jarvis.
From IM3 we learned that these teenagers bullied him (Read Part 1 - Bullying).
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But why was he bullied?
Let's look at Harley. What does Tony see in him? There are no physical signs of mistreatment on Harley, and he doesn’t appear stressed. But. He is an 11-year-old tech genius and nerd. Just like Tony was. And Tony immediately knows what is happening to the boy.
In the deleted scene “Tony, Harley and E.J.” we meet the teenager who bullies Harley - EJ, who is much older than him and has a group of friends the same age. Knowing that Tony had to live in a boarding school with the same contingent, we can conclude that something similar happened to him there.
So, the reasons for bullying in Tony's case would be: he was the youngest and smartest of all the students, was a nerd, probably had a nanny at school, had no friends because there were no children his age, and because he is an introvert (read this for MCU and this for 616).
We don’t know exactly what kind of bullying happened to him, but we can assume that it was physical, since Tony offers Harley a non-lethal, but still a weapon.
So in this case, Tony was always on his own against the bigger and older guys. And he had to defend himself somehow.
Maybe he could escape them once, but he could not escape the whole boarding school situation, so it was pointless. This is why he doesn't have the "flight" part of "fight or flight" mode. Even if it makes more sense in a specific situation, like facing off against a robot with a fork without any protection in Age of Ultron. In comparison, Bruce has a "flight" mode, so he hid behind the bar even though he could be protected by his big green Alter Ego.
He could try to fight with his fists, but it was also pointless against larger opponents. So he built things. Like that flash thing he gave Harley to “discourage bullying”.
The most important effect of the teenagers’ cruelty on him was probably his bravery. In all the movies, every time there is a fight, it’s Tony who goes against the largest and most dangerous opponent, be it Leviathans (The Avengers), Killian (IM3), Ultron (AoU), Winter Soldier (CW – Task Force office), Wanda and Clint (CW – airport fight), Scott in his giant form (CW – airport fight), Thanos (IW), or Thanos again (Endgame).
Not captivity and the Ten Rings made him brave. He was brave before that - see this post.
Conclusion: due to the bullying he endured as a child, Tony developed traits that would later make him Iron Man - a brave, fearless, smart fighter who never runs away from the battlefield and always takes on the biggest, most dangerous and powerful enemies, because he has been doing this since childhood.
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Tony Stark’s Alter Ego
An alter ego (Latin for "other I") means an alternate self, which is believed to be distinct from a person's normal or true original personality.
For example, Bruce Wayne’s alter ego is Batman, Bruce Banner’s is Hulk, Peter Parker’s alter ego is Spider-Man, etc.
Everyone thinks Tony's alter ego is Iron Man, right? Well, they are wrong. Because Iron Man is not Tony's "other I". It is still 100% him, with or without armor.
Iron Man does not display any personal characteristics that differ from Tony’s own: endurance, selflessness, courage, reliability, loyalty, integrity, responsibility, caring, compassion, generosity, rare use of mannerisms or sarcasm, quietness, submissiveness, gentleness, etc.
But Tony actually has an Alter Ego. Although it does not have its own name. Here it is:
It is characterized by such traits as extraversion and talkativeness, self-confidence, narcissism and high (or in his case – healthy) self-esteem (see this post), mannerism, sarcasm, indifference, rudeness, hiding pain and health or psychological condition, etc.
See the difference? This is an Alter Ego - a public personality with traits and characteristics that are alternative to the original personality. Don't get confused.
He doesn't need Iron Man to be his Alter Ego because: a) Iron Man isn't hiding, it's not a secret identity; b) Iron Man is actually his own original personality in the way that it is safe for him (from his own point of view) to show his true self. In the armor, he is confident enough. We can see this clearly in Iron Man 3 when he struggles with low self-confidence without his suit throughout the movie. What is causing his PTSD? He is in a transitional period of abandoning his public Alter Ego and trading it in for his true Iron Man identity, but at this point, without the suit, he does not yet realize that HE is Iron Man and not the armor.
Why did he create Alter Ego for the public? I’ll show you soon…
We usually call this Alter Ego his “public mask”. We could give it a name though. Suggest your options.
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