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boyfridged · 7 months

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Sorry to ramble in your ask box but

I sometimes doubt It wouldn't matter if Jason came back a murderer; even if Jason returned totally normal, I believe Bruce would view it as the universe punishing him.

I'm not saying Bruce doesn't miss or love Jason, but I think Bruce has personified his grief and sense of failure in Jason.

I was recently looking at "came back relatively intact" Jason au's and thought to myself, "I don't think Jason could ever stop being a ghost, at least not to Bruce."

What do you think?

i mean, this is the whole story, isn't it! i believe that the reason why jason becomes a murderer at all* is that he is believed to be a ghost; by most of the other characters (although rarely stated outright), but also himself equally (annual 25!). jason's death had been too important (and one of the deaths that were supposed to be irreversible as a rule) and hence even post-res he remains a mere haunting. this became a defining trait of his in the contemporary rendition of his character, for better or for worse. the primary issue with it is, of course, that no one wants to meaningfully engage with this at all.

and jason was not merely killed; he was fridged, for bruce specifically. what you said "i think bruce has personified his grief and sense of failure in jason" is a very apt description of what fridging is on a meta level in storytelling! my tag #cemeteries are for the living is actually specifically about it. there's no autonomy in death; the dead you keep become your own story. it is partially natural (although when it comes to bruce, it seems that he personally just sucks at grief work tbh.) except in jason's case, since jason comes back to life, it has even more dire consequences.

but i digress. i'm not sure if bruce would perceive jason coming back as he was to be a punishment, but i definitely agree he would not be entirely... normal about it; and it's not like there is a normal reaction to your child coming back from the dead. but if we assume there is some range of more appropriate ways of dealing with it, i do not think bruce would necessarily manage to fit into it anyway. i believe first of all there would be this terrible fear there that he can fail jason again; if jason is alive, it is possible for him to get hurt again (yes, i'm thinking about this poem again.)

i actually talked (maybe it was in dms with a friend and not here?) about a scenario in which jason gets back to bruce right after his resurrection (for some reason in this vision the resurrection takes place a bit later however) and so he's still a kid that he once was (i don't remember the exact setting we conceived but for clarity: he is not catatonic). we came to the conclusion bruce would not be able to parent him anymore. he would, of course, love him and express it, but there would be something off about the whole setting still. i think we even somehow arrived at dick taking over the custody (not in a formal sense but in every way that matters) for the most part (and that being, mind you, a situation that was not really desirable. it was supposed to be painful for everyone.)

oh and just to throw it here. jason's death changed bruce the most. he is, to an extent, also dead. that creates a barrier in communication from both sides.

*despite of how some like to use garzonas' story to argue otherwise, i don't think there is any good and valid in-context evidence for a claim jason would turn to this modus operandi if the timeline actually followed his 80s characterisation and development.

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bougonia · 8 months

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Hi!! I saw your AU post and it sounds great!!!

I’d love to know more, especially about character dynamics? You said you had a little.

Also does Cass ever meet Tim or Jason before they enter the hero/crime lord scene through Steph? (Or otherwise?)

fdnjsafl thank you for asking!!! i have. a lot.

so once steph picks of the mantle of robin dick finds out and he's Not Pleased. but he doesn't blame her because she's like fourteen years old and dick is 20 and has started to reflect on like. whether him becoming robin was actually a good thing or not. so he's having complicated emotions about the whole thing but he's not necessarily feeling replaced. probably helps that she isn't a boy that looks uncomfortably similar to him.

he's kinda sorta repaired his relationship with bruce in the intervening robinless years but things are still awkward and this doesn't help. but eventually (after teaming up with steph to save bruce probably) he's like okay this is gonna happen whether i'm here or not so he becomes an additional mentor figure to her, both in vigilante and civilian life.

eventually dick meets jason and tim and jason is like. what the FUCK is this grown adult man doing hanging around my baby sister. absolutely hates his guts. thinks he's a total creep.

tim, on the other hand, knows he's nightwing and just like gloms onto him with a kind of awkward hero worship thing. but nobody knows he knows about their secret identities so everyone is just like "??? why are you so obsessed with him" and dick is like. there's something wrong with this kid. finds him endearing though.

this causes tension between tim and jason. even more so after tim reveals he knows batman's identity (to steph and bruce and dick) in order to get batman to save his parents, and then when that fails and his mom is dead and his dad is in a coma, he gets taken in by bruce wayne. this is post-cass though.

as for cass, yes she does meet jason and tim! her arc is based around her trying to heal from her past as essentially a living weapon.

initially bruce is like. kind of scared of her and keeping her in the cave and not sure what to do with her since he's torn between "she's just a kid" and "she's incredibly dangerous"

steph is like. she's a teenage girl. grow the fuck up. and sneaks her out to do normal people shit. eventually this includes meeting jason and tim.

jason can tell that there's something Up with cassandra but he doesn't know what, and as far as he knows they met through dick so that doesn't help their whole thing. but he also can tell she's kinda scared of him and he doesn't like that so he tries to be good to her and show her that he's a safe person.

cass can tell that jason's got a lot of anger in him and she isn't sure where that anger is going to go. she's afraid it might be directed at her, and she feels she would not be allowed to defend herself. but at the same time she can tell he cares an awful lot about steph and tim so she has mixed feelings.

tim saw when she first met batman and that she beat him in a fight so he's a little freaked out by her at first. batman is still more of a mythical figure than a real person to him, so anyone that can beat batman is scary.

cass can tell that tim's unsettled by her and she honestly finds it kind of comforting. she's like yes this guy gets it! she feels like she's pretending to be a person when she doesn't fit into the world like other people do, and while she really likes steph for being kind to her, she isn't sure she's capable of being what steph would like her to be.

tim warms up to her as she starts to heal (helped by alfred and steph bullying bruce into letting her stay in the house, dammit) and they become close

anyway! that's like. a good chunk of the au, i hope you found it interesting! thanks again for asking :)

#batman #batman au #mine #long post

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wpdarlingpan · 3 years

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Do you mind doing a yandere Jason Todd with a reader who is kinda insecure about herself and thinks she isn't good enough for a relationship and that no one could ever love her? Btw, I love your work and thanks for sending me that request again, a real honor :)

Thank you for sending this request, and thank you so much for all your support. I love your work as well and thank you for doing my request, it was amazing!

Warnings: Mentions of Verbal Abuse, Angst

It is dark because I am giving background for the “no one could ever love her”.

I was somewhat stuck on what to write so hopefully you guys like it.

Flashback

“You can’t do anything right! Look at this!” Y/N’s foster dad yelled as he pointed to a single dirt spot on the floor he had made when coming into the house.

“But-“ she tried to cut in and defend herself but she got a glare that would shut anyone up.

“No buts! How are you to expect and man to love you if you keep having screw ups like this? Huh?! Answer me.”

“I clean it right away.” She said while struggling to hold her tears back.

“You better.” He growled out before leaving her in the living room with a bucket and mop.

Flashback Over

“Y/N!” She heard from behind her and she sighed quietly to herself when she recognized the voice of the boy who had been asking her out for months.

She was debating on running away, or staying where she was and would have to reject him again which resulted in jealous girls bullying her.

She chose the first option. Y/N ran down the sidewalk and quickly ran towards the direction to her home, she began to make it to an alley when she was lightly grabbed from behind and brought into the alley.

Y/N gasped in surprised and struggled against the wall she was being held to.

“Y/N! It’s okay It’s just me” Jason says as he held her against the wall but loosened his grip as she stopped struggling.

“Jason, why would you do that?” She spoke angrily as her heart was racing, it was Gotham who knows what could happen.

“I’m sorry, but you started running and then I tried catching up to you and then I panicked and yeah…” he explained looking somewhat guilty but it quickly disappeared.

“I wouldn’t have had to push her into the alley if she hadn’t ran.” He said inside his head, attempting to justify scaring her, but he looked down at the girl who was slightly glaring up at him with an adorable pout and was completely distracted.

“Y/N”

“No.”

“Will you.”

“I’m sorry no.” She spoke as she felt slightly bad for saying no so harshly but why would he keep asking out her? There were so many other, better girls.

“Go out on a…” Jason continued he knew she’d eventually say yes, but until she did he would continue asking her and attempt to make her fall for his charm. Of course he knew it wasn’t necessarily required for her to be completely in love with him before he decided to take the next step like the other Bats. Grayson had his “soulmate” as the bats called them, his fell in love with him as well so they were able to be a normal couple, other than Graysons possessive tendencies. Drake took his before they could fall in love, which resulted in many problems. Damian was still looking.

Y/N didn’t say no after him continuing on with his request so he quickly finished it and lightly grabbed her hand and held it to his lips.

“Date with me.” He spoke then kissed her hand while looking deeply into her eyes. Y/N just about melted on the spot as he lowered her hand but still held it in his.

All she could here was the shouts of her foster father who had told her day after day that no man would after date her, let alone love her. She just couldn’t understand why someone like Jason, the man everyone wanted and the son of a billionaire would want her. The girl who couldn’t do anything right.

She saw his eyes that looked like they were begging her to say yes and she was so close to saying yes before she said what was truly on her mind.

“Why would you want to date me of all people? You deserve someone you can help you and be there for you, and I- I can’t do anything right.” She repeated the words she heard so often as they were absorbed into her brain, playing like a broken record.

Jason looked at her in shock. Why wouldn’t he want to date her? He had been searching for his soulmate ever since he was 14. The day he first saw her, he knew she was perfect for him. He saw the tears that built into her eyes and he grew angry, why didn’t she believe him? Is that why she always rejected him, not because she didn’t like him in some way, but because she didn’t believe she was good enough for him? He wanted to reassure her that she was amazing, perfect even; but before he could she was running away leaving a stunned Jason behind. While he was thinking to himself, she saw his anger building and that was what lead her to running.

He turned to go after her but then he thought of a plan.

Jason went back to the manor and logged into the Bat computer and clicked on the secret file he had been making for y/n ever since he met her. It was filled with documents and pictures, even her birth certificate and her address. He was waiting until they would actually start dating to go see her house but he figured no time was better than the present and he was getting rather impatient.

He put on this red hood uniform and went to her house. Luckily her backyard had plenty of trees to hide in. Jason looked around the top floor of the house first but when he didn’t see his soulmate he checked the bottom, and luckily he did because there was yelling coming from the kitchen.

He crouched down in front of the window that was by the kitchen sink and looked into the room to see Y/N and her foster dad.

“What is this? I said I wanted filet! Not some lousy steak! Have you learned nothing?! If you can’t even do this simple task for me after I’ve spent a long day at work just to take care of you, you ungrateful child! No wonder your other parents left, I wouldn’t want you either if you didn’t get me money from the state!How are you ever going to find some unlucky man to love you?” Her father yelled and she stood in front of him slightly shaking in fear. Jason’s fists clenched and ached to grab his gun and kill the man right then and there. But, he couldn’t do that to Y/N, he wouldn’t do anything that risked hurting her.

Her foster dad finally stopped yelling at her and he sat down and ate the food she prepared. She wasn’t allowed to eat whatever food he bought for her to make. Y/N walked back up to her room with a small bowl of cereal, which was one of the only things she could eat at the house because she bought it herself.

Jason went back home and thought over what happened. No wonder she always ran away or didn’t believe him when he asked her out, not with those words drilled into her head. He knew that he needed to act fast, Jason wanted to make her feel loved.

The Next Day

Y/N walked down the halls at school like usual until she was unexpectedly pulled into a empty classroom.

She turned around to see Jason standing there with a large bouquet of her favorite flowers.

“Y/N, Will you please go out on a date with me?”

She looked into his eyes and once again saw them silently begging her to accept, and she truly did what to… but she was scared.

“Why?” Y/N couldn’t help but ask once again. To her, she wasn’t anything special, she wasn’t worthy of being in a relationship. How could she possibly say yes when she had so many doubts filling her mind.

Jason’s eyes softened and he told her everything he loved about her, from the ways her eyes shined brightly when she was happy, or the way she would lightly twist her hair when she was nervous; which she was doing as he said that making her eyes widen adorably, he told her how he loved how she tried to help everyone around her. Jason could see her shoulders rising up as if the weight of the words her father had told her were slowing disappearing, and he kept going until she was smiling shyly with slight happy tears in her eyes.

Y/N didn’t believe what she was hearing. Jason, Jason Todd, Son of Multi-Billionaire Bruce Wayne, like her. But she looked into his eyes and saw the sincerity behind them and Jason finally got the answer he wanted.

“Yes. I will go on a date with you.” Jason lightly put the flowers down on the desk then rushed to Y/N and picked her up in a hug and spun them both making her squeal slightly before laughing. Jason could hardly believe it. She finally said yes and he was happy beyond compare.

“I guess I won’t have to go with Todd’s plan.” Jason thought to himself with a smirk as he set her down on the floor and handed her the flowers and she held them to her tightly, appreciating the gesture.

“Better off this way anyway.” Jason smiled at her and she reciprocated it with one just as happy. She didn’t know she was never going to be alone again

That’s how Jason finally won over his soulmate and he was never letting her go.

#yandere jason todd #yandere #Yandere Jason Todd x reader #batman #batboys #red hood #timothy drake #richard grayson #Damian Wayne #Jason Todd x reader

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jostenneil · 2 years

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Hi, it's not mentioned who raised Golden Age Batman at all? So (this was on a post by Clearbluewaters) he grew into a softer character when Robin and imo his character arc is based around growing as a person because of found family? Bruce having no one (not even Alfred) and then stepping into to raise Robin as best he could - imo at the core of it, Bruce is supposed to be a parent. So when writers make him abusive, it's an illogical perversion of that hopeful character arc and it leads nowhere?

I remembered seeing posts about Frederick Wertham and how he accused Batman of being a predator and I think writing Bruce as abusive or militaristic follows a similar line of thinking in that both think a single dad becoming a parent by adopting kids isn't normal and DC unintentionally reinforces Wertham by having other superheros comment only on the Robins or having the Robins die or in Titans with the Robin Database. I don't like the look of making the single dad who adopted kids, who was accused of being predatory by a bigot in the 50's, into an abusive parent. I recognize that the character is privileged, but it still sort of reeks of conservative influences.

i hope it's okay to mash your asks together for ease of reading! but yes omg i think that's a very important point and it's kind of interesting how you bring up bruce being a single parent in particular bc the fact that he started out that way at that period in time is kinda amazing considering so many other superheroes with proteges were either married or in like, a stable romantic relationship to where the girl on their arm could be seen as a sort of mother figure to the sidekick they took under their wing (donna is obv an exception but she was never diana's daughter anyway so i don't think she necessarily applies). it's crazy how over time writers have sort of pushed this image of bruce being the lone vengeful knight who doesn't have time for romantic relationships bc he will always prioritize the greater good over what he perceives as "selfish" attachments, and somehow his relationship with his kids doesn't factor as part of that greater good. that's a significant problem to me of interpretation of bruce's character in the last two decades or so is how the prioritization of him as a romantic figure over a father figure has sort of ran parallel to development of him as an abusive figure who could care less about his children despite the origins of his relationships with all of them. it's very strange that writers would take a character who reached out to children out of a sense of loneliness, compassion, and good will and would turn him into someone who would end up so embittered and even violent towards them

#bruce wayne #dc #mine:media analysis #asks

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