Fun fact: the shot of Mike stepping off the cliff in s1 was likely a visual parallel to Sarah jumping off the stairs in this shot from Labyrinth (1986).
For those that haven't read this theory, please do because I didnât make these observations myself and the original post goes a lot deeper into the details from Labyrinth, which in some ways align a little too conveniently with the narrative weâre seeing unravel on the show with Mike over the seasons.
For some basic context, in s4, we even get a reference to M.C. Escherâs Relativity hanging on the wall in Mikeâs room, which is also on the wall of Sarahâs bedroom, along with that work being what inspired the scene in Labyrinth.Â
This next part has actually been talked about before quite a bit in the fandom, even outside of tumblr, so itâs not exactly some breakthrough as a concept on its own.
Every season, in the first scene (re)introducing the main characters, Mike is running late in some capacity. In 1x01 itâs around 3 minutes, in 2x01 itâs around 6 minutes, in 3x01 itâs around 8 minutes, and in 4x01 itâs around 13 minutes.Â
So technically not the literal season opener, as thatâs usually reserved to a flashback at some different location, but obviously still within those first 15 minutes, following directly after the openerâŠ
And since we already have an idea of what the opening of s5 is going to be, what do we think the scene directly after it is going to be? You know, in the scene that Mike has been consistently running late in, for four seasons now?
Speaking of 15 minutes, I think that if they were to keep this trend going for the final season (the full circle-ness of it all is honestly too epic to pass up), itâs likely that this final time it will happen around the 15 minute mark of 5x01, as that would make the build up for it each season pretty consistent.
And not only that, but it would also literally be a callback to what Karen says to Mike that first time heâs late in s1:Â
And hereâs my other favorite line from one of these scenes, in the context of this theory, because it literally acknowledges this concept directly and with this air of foreshadowing I cannot stress enough:
Interestingly, another detail that ties all these âMike being lateâ scenes together, is stairs.
In s1 heâs running up the stairs to convince his mom to let them keep playing.
In s2 heâs rushing down the stairs trying to avoid Nancyâs wrath.
In s3 heâs awkwardly bumping into strangers going down the escalator in Starcourt Mall.
And in s4 heâs hurrying down the stairs on his way to school.
The whole point of Labyrinth is that itâs an allegory for growing up, with Sarah going from dressing up as a princess to reenact one of her favorite fairytales after being chastised by her step-mom for not going on more dates like girls her age, to Sarah rejecting her childhood and it leading to an unfortunate series of events, forcing her to face reality and take responsibility of her own life.
Does this sound like anyone we know?
Mike, who starts the show in s1 playing DND animatedly with his friends before being interrupted by his mom to end the campaign despite protests, to his mom in s2 punishing his bad behavior by having him get rid of some of his favorite toys, to him in s3 insisting that theyâre 'not kids anymore' and that it was inevitable for them to stop playing games and grow up and get girlfriends, to him now in s4 reverting back to this earlier version of himself, sporting the Hellfire shirt proudly, to then reverting back to pretending when showing up at the airport with Argyle calling his outfit a shitty knock off (aka calling Mike a shitty knock-off), and without the story ever acknowledging why those shifts happened in the first place, and with one season left?
Hint? Forced conformity. Thatâs whatâs killing the kids. Thatâs the real monster.
They literally told us already that out of all the monster we've seen in the show, this is what is worse than all of that. Meaning that what is about to go down, most likely topping everything we've seen up to this point, is likely going to involve forced conformity.
I also think itâs interesting that the scene in Labyrinth happened during the climax of the film, because arguably if you were to watch Stranger Things in its entirety, from s1-5, the beginning of s5 is going to feel very much like the climax to the overall story.Â
Things are going to be happening fast. The stakes are insane because they need to top everything that theyâve done up to this point. Somethingâs gotta give. And Mike is just not looking safe out here guys.
I could go on and on about all the hints that Mike is danger, but Iâll just share my favorites.Â
How am I gonna survive a whole week without you guys? Mike says, at the tail end of his opening scene in s4, and with s5 set to start at the end of said week.
Mike sitting in front of an antique funeral home fan in the s4 promotional pictures of the party in the Creel attic.
Nancy saying she saw Mike die in the vision Vecna showed her, with the early stages of said vision coming true as season 4 nears its end.
Mike getting hit in the head with an arrow front and center by Suzieâs brother, in a sequence that was loaded with foreshadowing for the end of s4 (and beginning of s5?).
Watch out dominos. Your dominos are gonna fall. Argyle says, with Mike equally in the frame behind him.
Without heart, weâd all fall apart. Will says, after telling Mike heâs the heart.
A Karen lookalike standing in front of the missing person's board at the end of s4.
Mikeâs very first line in the show (also the literal first line in the show) being A shadow grows on the wall behind you, swallowing you into the darkness. It is almost hereâŠ
So maybe, theoretically speaking, what we could get by that 15 minute mark going into s5, is Mike running late one last time, and it potentially being a callback to that cliff scene ie. Labyrinth.
Another scene that I think might've been foreshadowing what is currently going down, is Max and Mike both getting knocked out by Billy at the end of s3. Max goes down first and Mike follows right after, though Max is the first to come to and help them both up.
We know Max is unlikely to be separated from the rest of the characters the whole season, thatâs just not feasible. She'll at least be on-screen despite maybe not being back with the others right away, even if itâs just a cryptic cliffhanger at the end of 5x01, followed by her returning more consistently on screen after that leading up to her rescue. With the way things ended in s4 though, we need to know where sheâs at and get to finding her. Which is why I think at most it will be a 1-2 episode arc.
So maybe, this moment from s3 was a hint about Max and Mikeâs impending doom at the hands of Vecna, as a result of not only their emotional states, but also their bonds with El, and them then being isolated for a short time (presumed dead), only to find their way back?
Itâs also worth noting Mike was the only person to witness any of Maxâs symptoms from the curse prior to her finding out about it, with the camera focusing on him beside her and looking at her worriedly as her nose bled. We donât know who Vecnaâs fourth victim was going to be, because Max threw herself in as bait, but could it have originally been Mike?
I know a lot of people don't like the Mike getting Vecna'd theories or Mike is depressed takes and so if you find yourself in that position, feel free to subtweet away or whatever you need to cope with my nonsense.
I'm not a big Mike is suicidal truther or anything even, nor do I think it makes sense for him to get Vecna'd in the traditional sense like how it happened with the others in s4 because the gates are open. But Vecna still hasnât carried out his entire plan, a plan that includes Mike dying. And the imagery surrounding it all leading up to this is compelling regardless.
If one shot at the end of s3, with Max sitting in Billy's room while Hopper was in the background saying and yeah sometimes it's painful and sometimes it's sad was enough to hint at her whole depression arc in s4, then Mike being focused on for multiple shots while Hopper was in the background saying But, lately, I guess I've been feeling... distant from you. Like you're pulling away from me or something.-- And I guess, if I'm being really honest, that's what scares me. I don't want things to change, with Mike looking longingly at the Byers house, cutting to Will looking out the car window crying, then cutting back to Mike walking into his mom's arms with a dead stare on his face, has gotta be enough to justify dude going through some shit, which coincidentally matches up with everything talked about here.
Turns out getting to Mike, now that was the keyâŠ
Maybe the first episode of s5 is about Mike ending up wherever Max is, somewhere caught in between, and them âcrawlingâ back ie. The Crawl.
Definitely might add some context to that funkopop shot-listing video Ross posted, followed by one other photo a few days later with the caption being that they finished shot-listing for 5x01-5x02. Meaning the initial video posted was likely from 5x01...
Working in the acting industry is hard. But luckily you were a child the suffer brothers thought were perfect for a role in stranger things. You were part of the main group being introduced in season 1. You and millie were close since you were the only girls but you were still closer with the others. But being older than Millie and Noah meant you were closer and hung out more with Finn, Gaten and Caleb. Then Sadie came along joining the cast for the second season. Millie and I introduced ourselves first, trying to give a more friendlier approach than the boys. Sadie and I became close on set due to the amount of screen time our characters had together because they become best friends, both characters bonding over the same interests. We hung out both on set and off set, we began bullying Millie and Finn when we found out they needed to to kiss. Neither of them having had their first but once the twins found out what weâd been doing they changed a scene in the snowball scene which made Sadie anxious when she found out she had to kiss Caleb for the snowball scene.
She began panicking, pacing my trailer, telling me sheâs never had her first kiss and now itâs gonna have to be in front of everyone. âLook Sades, itâs the same with Millie and Finn and if youâre so worried you can practise with someone or something. I donât know. I think they say the arm is like the closet thing to the lips.â I say thinking back to the article I saw a while ago. âWhat? Iâm not kissing my arm.â She says stopping to stare at me. âLook I bet thereâs someone thatâll help you.â I say watching her take a step closer to me. âWill you do it?â She blurts out. Both our eyes widening as she realises what she said. âI didnât meant that.â She said making me laugh as she panics even more. I stand up walking over to her holding her hands. âLook i donât mind. If it gives you peace of mind then I am all for it.â I say watching some of the the panic disappear from her face. âReally?â She hesitates to ask before continuing. âIf you donât want you donât have to.â She rambles. âSadie. Itâs fine.â I say pulling her towards the couch. âSo Iâve never kissed anyone as well so like donât blame me if itâs bad.â I say making her laugh and look down. âSo Iâm gonna put my hand here, okay?â I say placing a hand on her cheek, she nods making me continue. âDo you want me to stop?â I whisper as I lean closer to her, her lips parting as I look down at her lips. âNo.â She says taking her eyes of my lips and looking up into my eyes. I look at her big blue eyes searching for any signal of her telling me if she doesnât wanna do this. I look down at her lips before using my hand on her cheek to pull her to me. Me meeting her halfway. Her lips capture my bottom lip as our eyes shut. I pull away after a few seconds. Her eyes fluttering open, shock taking over her features. âHow was it?â I ask unsurely as she stares at her hands in her lap before looking up at me. âIâm not sure, we should do it again.â She says after a few seconds, shaking away the shock on her face. A smile taking over features. We didnât talk about the kiss again, we didnât mention it to anyone, it was our little secret. Our relationship didnât change since it was meant to be a kiss to help her nerves. After the kiss Sadie and I agreed weâd lie online, saying that her first kiss with Caleb and that Iâve never kissed anyone.
When filming was over we still talked. FaceTimed most days and did a ton of press together. When we came back to film season 3 and we did the table read we found out that my character had a crush on Max but Max was with Lucas. So an unrequited love story is what is being told to me from what the script, crew and my cast members were telling me. My character never did tell Max throughout the season though. Being too scared to reveal it. The only one who knows is Dustin. Who thought I liked Lucas, later realising itâs Max. That caused my character to go back to being number 1 best friends with Dustin after he found out her secret and ended up being part of the scoop troop. Somehow my character ended up being with Steve and Robin, in the chairs, being drugged and punched by the Russians. With bruised and bloody faces we end up escaping the Russians, somehow meeting the others in the mall. Max panicking when she sees my face. Pulling me into a store and wrapping it for me. The drugs that havenât worn off yet cause me to compliment her and almost reveal something I wouldnât want to have her know. Thankfully Dustin pulls me away before I did something stupid.
Flashback to Snowball Dance
I walk into the room scanning my surroundings and thatâs when I see Dustin sitting alone. I walk over to him and stick a hand out. âCan I have this dance?â I ask as he wipes his tears before looking up at me. âY/N?â He asks in shock as I smirk. âI though you werenât coming.â He continues before taking my hand to help him up. âI wasnât. But then I felt that my best friend needed me.â I say with a smile before looking up at his hair and smiling wider. âThe hair looks really good.â I say complimenting him as he smiles widely. âLike these pearls?â He asks before purring making me drop my head in laughter. âBut like I said my best friend needs me so here I am.â I say as he raises an eyebrow. âWhat about Max?â He asks making me confused. âWhat?â I ask tilting my head in confusion. âYou replaced me with Max.â He says glancing at Max and Lucas making small talk on the dance floor. I look over and it makes me cringe at the thought of them together. I turn back to Dustin âI could never replace you dusty.â I say making him smile and let out laugh. âTime to dance.â I say pulling him towards the middle of the floor. âHands on the waist.â I say guiding his hands to hold my waist before wrapping my arms around his neck. âWhoâs will dancing with?â I ask looking around for the small boy. âSome girl asked him to dance.â He says lookin in a direction making me follow his eyes to find will smiling widely at me and waving. In response I smile and give a little wave back. âI thought him and mike were gonna dance together and then you could dance with El.â I said making him knit his eyebrows together. âIs that why you didnât come? So it wouldnât be an un even number?â He asks making me nod. âYeah, and a few other reasons.â I say. âOhh looks like Mikes getting all action.â I say scoffing with a laugh following. âLooks like Lucas is too.â He says making me whip my head around. âOh my god.â I whisper as I canât take my eyes off them. Sorrow takes over my heart as I watch them pull away smiling widely. Unaware to me Dustin looks at me confused before following my eyes, he smirks and we stare at the couple for a few more seconds before turning around to face eachother. âYou like Lucas.â He says scoffing making me cringe. âWhat? No dude gross. What, where did you even get that from?â I ask as I face the couple once more. âJesus Christ.â He mumbles making me look back at him. âWhat?â I ask making him reply instantly. âNothing.â He yells, his voice higher than usual. I raise an eyebrow but I donât pry.
âY/N.â Dustin says making me look at him. âYeah?â I ask taking my eyes off Lucas and Max as Max stares at him spit the water back into the pouch. âYouâre coming back to my place right?â He asks making me smiles. âYeah of course, youâre back!â I say pulling him into a hug. Once everyone leaves and we arrive at his house he pulls me into his room. âIs everything okay?â I ask as he locks the door. âI want you to know that you can tell me anything.â He says making me confused. âYeah I know.â I say hesitantly. âY/N I care about you, you can tell me. Anything. I wonât judge, I donât care.â He says making me nervous. âDustin. What is this about?â I ask trying to swallow my nerves. He sighs taking a seat on his bed patting a place beside for me to take a seat. Reluctantly I walk over taking a seat beside him. âI know.â He says making my heart race. âKnow what?â I ask trying to play dumb. âI know you like girls.â He says looking from his hands. My breath hitches in my throat as i begin panicking. âY/N, itâs okay, I still love you. Youâre my best friend, I donât feel any different about you.â He says placing his hand on mine in attempts to comfort me. âIâm. Iâm not.â I say in attempts to lie. âIâm not g-gay.â I struggle to get out due to never saying the word before. His face softens and he smiles with pity as my eyes begin tearing up, I look down to avoid him seeing my eyes. âItâs okay if you are Y/N.â He says making the tears threaten to fall. âDustin Iâm so sorry, I tried, I know itâs wrong. I canât feel like this.â I say as tears fall from my eyes as I look at him. âDustin, please help, help me get help. Iâm not normal.â I say as he pulls me close wrapping his arms around me. âY/N you are normal, you donât need help.â He says as he holds my head to his chest. I feel tears fall onto my head as I hug him tightly. âI tried Dustin. I really tried.â I say as I cry into his chest. âI know Y/N, I know.â He says, his voice wavering as he lays his head on mine.
Time skip to battle of Starcourt Mall
âY/N!â Dustin yells my name making Robin, Steve and I laugh and cheer as we walk over. âDusty!â I say as I hug him. âAre you okay?â He asks staring at my bloody face as I just laugh in response. âI think I like Robin, sheâs really funny.â I slur making her giggle in response. âI like you to Y/N, youâre really funny.â Robin says wrapping her arms around my waist as she leans on my shoulder. âI like all of you.â Steve says he comes to us. âAw, I like you too steve.â I say making him drop his jaw. âYou like me?â He questions. âEveryone likes you.â I say making him pump his fist in the air. âWe gotta get out of hereâ Dustin mumbles as him and Erica grab us and pull us to a store. âStay here!â He scolds the three of us before running off. We stay until we hear voices. I get up following the voices and thatâs when I see Max and Lucas. âOh hi Max!â I say making her whip her head around. âY/N?â She asks before squinting at me as I wave. âY/N!â She yells running over to me. âOh my God! What happened to you?!â She yells at me as her eyes scan my face before moving onto my body. âWeâre friends right?â I ask making her look back up at me. âWhat? Y/N, are you, are you drugged?â She asks making me laugh. âI asked a question first, you need to answer me.â I say as her eyes open wide. âY/N!â Dustinâs voice yells followed by footsteps running towards. âWhat happened to Y/N?!â She yells at him panicked. I look around walking towards the fireworks in the corner of the shop. âHoly shit.â I say laughing as I look up at the tower. âI want one.â I say going to grab a box before I feel a hand on my shoulder pull me back. âWell sorry to break it to you Y/N, weâre gonna have to patch you up first.â She says pulling me to the register making me take a seat on the chair. âGo get me a bottle of alcohol, a wooden spoon and some bandages or something to wrap her with.â She says as looks down at the injuries that littered my body. âGo. Now!â She yells at the boys who havenât moved. They turn around and run to the next aisle in search of the things Max said. She turns back around to look at me. âWhat hurts the most?â She asks making me smile. âYou look really pretty.â I say giggling as I watch her smile slightly. âThanks. You look pretty too.â She says making me say something else. âI, I donât think the Russians liked me.â I slur making her eyebrows knit together. âWhat?â She asks glancing up at me as she uses the nearby tissues to get rid of the blood dripping down my leg. Feeling a weird taste on my tongue I open my mouth wide. âI like air.â I say sticking my tongue out. âMe too.â She mumbles as she watches the boys run back with the things sheâd asked for. âCome here.â She says putting her hand on the back of my head and pulling me towards her. She inspects my eyebrow and I look down at her lips. âCan I tell you something?â I ask not taking my eyes off her lips and she hums in response, focused on whatever she was doing. âI really really like-â âWE GOTTA GO!â Dustin yells interrupting me and grabbing my hand and pulling me away from Max. âI wasnât done!â She yells getting up off the ground and following us. I allow Dustin to take me out the store and away from Max, letting him guide me wherever he wanted to take me.
âCUT!â One of the crew members yelled making me break character and help Gaten off the floor. âDude, the make up is so realistic, unbelievable.â Finn says as he walks up to us, leaning in to get a better look at the smaller details. âI know right.â Sadie agrees as she walks up to us. âSo you ready for the kiss?â Gaten asks as I look at him confused. âWhat?â Sadie and I ask at the same time? âYou werenât meant to tell them.â Finn says slapping the back of Gatens head before looking back at us. âIt was meant to be a surprise.â He says glaring at gaten whoâs now rubbing his neck smiling shyly at us all. âBut wait whoâs got a kiss scene?â I ask before Finn rolls his eyes. âYou two. Together.â He says making my eyes widen as my mouth drops in shock. I turn to look at Sadie. Her face mirroring my expression. âWhy?â I ask turning to look back at finn. âThe duffers said theyâre changing something in the script so you guys are gonna end up together.â He says shrugging before patting my shoulder and pulling Gaten with him. âI bet heâs lying.â She says as making me take my eyes off the boys as they walked away. I turn to her her and try to regain my confidence. âWould it be a bad thing though?â I ask winking at her making her laugh and shove my shoulder. âOh shut up.â She says making me laugh.
We ended up recording the whole season without the mention of a kiss. So unsurprisingly season 3 went through without a kiss. Just Y/N pining after Max. This is when filming for season 4 came around. I stayed laying low in my home country, exploring it, goin to the places I havenât been. Sadie and I continued to call everyday. âI canât wait to see you tomorrow!â She says excitedly through the camera making me grin. âIâm so excited, Iâve just got to start packing.â I say as I put down the phone making her go quiet. I look back up at the phone to see if the connection wasnât good but I look up to see her staring at me in shock, her jaw dropped and her eyes wide. âYou havenât even packed? You need to get to the airport in an hour!â She yells scolding me. âLook itâs fineee. I wonât miss my flight, Iâll be there.â I say as she pouts. âYou better, if you donât Iâll fly over and drag you here myself.â She stares making me smile as I grab clothes from my drawers and place them in my bag. âLook half way done.â I say smiling as I grab a bunch of clothes from the clean laundry basket and dump it into my bag. I look back at the camera to see her shaking her head with a smile. âOh my God.â She mumbles as she stares watches me push them down as I try to close the zip. âCall me when before you fly.â She makes me promise before ending the call.
âY/N?â I hear a familiar voice call out making me stop and look around. Looking on my right and seeing no one I turn to my left and without anytime to react a person jumps on me. Almost making me fall to the ground but luckily I stay up right and place my hands on their thighs to hold them up. The familiar smell of my perfume makes me smile as I pull back to see Sadie grinning down at me. âNice hoodie.â I smirk as I look down at her clothing. âThanks, I stole it.â She says making me laugh and pull her closer, placing my head in the crook of her neck. I hear her sigh as her arms wrap around me tighter. âMiss me?â I ask as she gets off me. âI havenât seen you for 2 years. Of course I miss you.â She says looking up at me her arms still holding onto me, and thatâs when I notice her teary eyes. âNo Sadie. Sadie no, Sadie please.â I beg as she pouts with a smile and a laugh slips her lips as the tears fall from her eyes. âI missed you.â She says looking up at me as I grab her arm and pull her to my chest. Wrapping my arms around her holding her as I feel her chest rise and fall unevenly against mine. âI missed you too.â I mumble kissing her forehead as I hold her in my arms until she slowly pulls away but doesnât let go. She puts her arm in mine and drags me to a car. âDid the others not want to see me?â I ask making her scoff. âOf course they did. I just didnât let them.â She says proudly as I hold the door open for her. âIsnât that nice.â I say closing the door behind me as I get in.
Sadie forces me to sleep in the car until we arrive at set so I donât fall asleep during the table read. âGet up, weâre here.â Sadie says light shaking my arm making me take my head off her shoulder. âOh shit did I fall asleep on your arm?â I yawn stretching my arms as the driver holds the door open for me. âThank you.â I mumble as he holds a hand to help me out. Me doing the same for Sadie. She begins to pull me to a hall and opens the 2 doors. Which makes a loud noise grabbing everyoneâs attention. The rest of the cast begin running over pulling me into a group hug, me at the centre. âY/N youâre here!â Noah yells making me millie snort. âOf course sheâs here. Sheâs apart of the season.â She says making Noah roll his eyes and look back at me. âTheyâre so annoying.â Caleb whispers grabbing the attention of both millie and Noah. âWe heard that.â Millie says making Caleb laugh. âWho said you werenât meant to hear it.â He says smirking as millie rolls her eyes at him. âGaten and I totally wouldâve picked you up at the airport, but Sadie here doesnât like sharing.â He says making me laugh as she glares at him. âShe pushed me out of the car.â Gaten says glaring at Sadie making her smile sheepishly. âSorry not sorry.â She whispers to him making him shake his head. âDisappointed.â He says before Matt and Ross walk over to us.
âY/N! Itâs so good to see you.â Matt says giving me a hug, his twin doing the same. âDo we have some exciting things this season, I think youâre gonna like it.â Matt says with a cheeky smile making me raise an eyebrow. âJust wait, youâll see.â Ross says as he turns away to go back to his seat. âWhereâre we sitting?â I ask looking for our names and thatâs when I notice Sadieâs and my name in the centre of the room, in the middle of the table, making my jaw drop. âLooks like weâre main characters.â I say as I grab Sadieâs hand, pulling her towards the table. Everyone takes a seat and thatâs when Shawn enters walking over to our table. âY/N! How are you?â Shawn asks making me smile and reply back. âLook weâve done a few things this season that may or may not shock you so Iâm gonna tell you now so you donât get shocked later.â He says looking at Sadie and I. âSo Sadie you die.â He says bluntly making me attempt to hold back a laugh with how calmly he said it. âIt looks like you die but you donât.â He says elaborating once he see her reaction. I smile as I raise a bottle of water to my lips. âAnd Y/N you have to kiss Sadie.â He says making me choke on my water. âSorry?â I ask as I get control of myself. He laughs as my cheeks go red from embarrassment. âYou and Sadie kiss this season.â He says making me speechless. Unable to form words so I just nod in response. He smiles and walks away so I turn to Sadie. âDid, did you know?â I ask as I notice her relaxed body state. âWell we kinda found out last season no?â She asks making me nod as I think back to what finn told us. âBut even weâve kissed before, it wonât be bad now right?â She asks as I nod in agreement. âYeah of course, we can just do the same as last time if one of us gets nervous.â I say making Sadie smirk. âI think Iâm pretty nervous.â She says with a teasing smile. âShut uppp.â I say making her laugh before we all quiet down to begin reading the first episode.
Part 2
A/N: I donât even know what this is, I just wrote whatever, but anyways hope you enjoy this and maybe Iâll write a part 2 who knows. And I will be making a google form to make a taglist, as well as a master-list so its easier to navigate through my posts. More fics are on the way so stay tuned
âVideo Makersâ is probably Adventure Timeâs most effective use of its side characters thus far. Pretty much every main and secondary character besides Ice King and Gunter show up. All of Finn and Jakeâs closest friends are at movie club: Marceline, BMO, Princess Bubblegum, Lady Rainicorn, Tree Trunks, Lumpy Space Princess, and Shelby. While several of these characters were also in the opening scene of âPower Animalâ, this is much more intimate. Itâs really cool how each guest gets a unique drink that fits their character. Princess Bubblegum has a sentient candy drink. She uses candy biomass to control her age. This must be how she maintains the body of an eighteen year old despite being about 835 in this episode. I also love her rocking a casual outfit this time. I mentioned in my âGo With Meâ review that Finnâs friendships with Marceline and Bubblegum caused them to see each other more frequently. Even though they are sitting apart and not seen chatting, itâs interesting that they both attend a small, weekly get together. Marceline actually gets a couple of lines, making it her only speaking cameo in the first four and a half seasons.Â
Itâs funny how worried Finn is about adhering to the copyright warning. It totally fits Finnâs character, but obviously it isnât referring to showing the movie to a few friends. And Jake is right that those laws arenât in effect anymore. We get our first mention of The Great Mushroom War, another example of significant lore being dropped so casually. It was pretty obvious already that Ooo was post-apocalyptic, especially from âBusiness Timeâ, but this was further confirmation for people who hadnât pieced it together yet.Â
I love all the scenes of Finn, Jake, and BMO filming Ooo. It feels like they are making an art movie or a documentary. It does a terrific job capturing the beauty and weirdness of the mundanity in everyday Ooo. Despite Finn and Jake calling it ârandom junkâ, Iâd totally watch it. They basically filmed Adventure Time season six. Finn and Jake try to film more structured scenes. The scenes donât play out the way Finn and Jake intend, causing them to argue over what genre they want their film to be. The way the actors go off script is much more funny and entertaining. Finn and Jake should take their movie less seriously, and just go with the flow. We get appearances from more recurring characters: Slime Princess, Cinnamon Bun, Mr Cupcake, and Peppermint Butler. This episode is a real milestone in Adventure Timeâs worldbuilding, showing off a structured world with various established elements they can naturally pull from. Shelby also says his iconic catchphrase, âcheck pleaseâ, for the first time.Â
The ending of the episode is fantastic. BMOâs reaction to Finn and Jake feels like a child reacting uncomfortably to their parents arguing. BMOâs song is very touching. In addition to BMO finally getting to tag along with Finn and Jake for an entire episode, it provides his first truly impactful scene, which still holds up as one of his best moments. I like how quickly it causes Finn and Jake to make up, who of course wouldnât stay mad about this long. Lumpy Space Princessâs intense reactions to all of this are also really funny. Sheâs eating this drama up.Â
I don't know if you were really asking on your last post but I'm among the people that don't believe in queer Mike in canon (but still ship byler and read fics and enjoy headcanons and etc but can't really post in the tag cause it is not very welcoming of us to say the least). I think seeing the airport scene as a romantic one is only one of the possible interpretations of this scene and of course if byler ends up being canon, it would be the most convincing one (still not the only one though). As I sadly don't think byler will be endgame (basically to me there are more in script and off script reasons to think they won't than to think they will), I interpret the airport scene as yet another sign that Mike is written as a brave, deeply caring, somehow fighting normativity guy, who is just often socially awkward as a result. In other words, I think Mike behaved this way because they haven't seen and spoken to each other in a while, and Mike only got updates through El (about the painting among other things). And because his relationship with Will IS different than his relationship with the other members of the party, but that doesn't make it romantic in nature, Will is his best friend and has a more obviously sensitive temper than Dustin or Lucas. Again, it's of course left to interpretation, but everything is. And whether or not we believe in byler endgame, our interpretation will necessarily somehow reflect it
I respect your opinion, but I think this choice doesn't make any sense as a narrative for Mike unless it's for starting a romantic plot line between them, it's just making him look like an asshole to the public because they didn't even catch the fact that Mike actually called Will, they automatically thought he was calling El even if it's risky for El to use the phone because of the government possibly listening... and like maybe if it was only that scene where he's acting awkward BEFORE they resolve their miscommunication issues I could agree with you... but the fact is that it is not only that scene, Mike keeps acting awkward after they have already talked about them not communicating as much in the past months and they have resolved that in theory...
I think this is a clear sign that Mike must have feelings for Will otherwise the writing and the framing and the direction they gave Finn on how to act doesn't make ANY sense... this scene would be absurd if Mike wasn't feeling love for the words Will is saying about him
the '' Will is different only because they are best friends exactly like the others, but he has a more sensitive temper'' doesn't hold up for me because in season 1 Mike had that conversation with Dustin where he told him he thought of ALL of them in the same exact way, but we know Will has always been different, and their relationship is more intimate than just being best friends... one of them is in love with the other... like, they could never be really ok if Will got rejected, that would keep hurting Will for a long time if not forever and the end of the show would be depressing and unrealistic if Will just ''got over Mike'' randomly after they showed just how deeply he loves him... and Mike this season he expressed out loud that he felt different and like Hawkins was not the same without Will specifically, he didn't even mention him missing his own girlfriend...? I believe this is because Mike has always had romantic feelings towards Will even if he didn't realize it, it's that type of loving without knowing where he always felt like this for Will, but he never considered what those feelings were until recently
plus we have the scene at the end of season 3 where Mike looks back at the byers home to confirm there is something more to the story of Mike and Will from Mike's side <3
I think you will be pleasantly surprised by Mike loving Will back too! đ
But I stumbled across ASC in one of my old SD cards and couldnât resist seeing if youâd actually managed to finish that giant story - and apparently you did. Kudos to you.
When I first read ASC I was in a seriously (Siriusly, because that joke is obligatory at this point) bad place. COVID was still in its early stages, I was newly thirteen and had no idea who I was, my anxiety had reached a new high and my OCD ruled my life. I was literally scared to get out of bed and half the time I wouldnât. I sanitized everything on sight and then some, and it still wasnât enough to get rid of the crawling feeling inside me. I can now admit that I was depressed. And on top of that I was going through an identity/gender crisis and questioning my sexuality for the first time in my life, hating myself while at it - being an ally is one thing, but being an actual member of the LGBTQ+ community is quite another, especially when you live in an country where being gay isnât even an option and your mother is homophobic af. Basically I was majorly fucked up.
ASC wasnât some huge life-changing thing. It was just a random fanfic I found while scrolling through HP tags. I was intrigued, mostly, at this monster of a fic that was over two hundred chapters long, and since I was looking for free books at the time, I gave it a try. Finished the first thirty or so chapters in one sitting. And, once I got over my shock at the sex scenes (Iâd never even been on a date and honestly my sexual awakening was partially triggered by this - I was like, âIf the fact that these people shagged for hours straight, and my only concern is how possible it is to manage that position for any length of time, then Iâm probably going to have to sit myself down for a soul-searchâ) and violent scenes (your mind is a terrifying place and I am sincerely thankful you arenât planning world domination just yet) I was hooked.
I did comment every now and then, under varying pseudonyms - SavvySpirit was one, obviously. WarrioroftheWolves was another (thirteen-year-old me was obsessed with large predators, mainly since they were everything I wasnât) and Raindrops & Flowers is quite possibly my least original name ever. There were a few other one-time names I canât recall. But it was a brief respite in the craziness of â20 and most of all it was something that was mine - to hold close to my heart, to hate when plot lines threw me for a loop, to cry over and giggle over and laugh over. I printed out the entire thing using my pocket money, in minuscule script and fitting eight pages per sheet, both sides. I think I reread that story at least twice a month - entire thing, back to back as I waited for the next time my parents would let me use the computer for longer than three minutes. I got attached to characters I barely gave second glances to. Viktor. Pansy. Dean. Padma. Mandy. Theo. Him especially, since I relate so much to him it almost hurts to see him hurt.
I stuck with ASC until around the time when Finn died and Ginny was put under bloodlust. I donât remember exactly why I stopped checking for updates - maybe it was just a lack of time, maybe it was my refilling schedule coupled with my fear of humans. Maybe it was something deeper, who knows. But I stopped at one point and just reread (imo) the best bits every now and then.
I guess, story-wise, things got a little too real too fast for me. Iâd known Cedric and Sirius was going to die, and Viktorâs death wasnât as much of a shock as Finnâs was - because it was so unexpected and so out of the blue (I cried and screamed and cursed your name for thirty minutes straight after that last mo grĂĄ. Seriously, Breanie? You just had to go and ruin things just when they were getting good? I was looking forward to seeing Finnâs POV, and seeing them mature and fight over everything from Finnâs overprotectiveness coupled with Theoâs independence to shopping problems and flavours of ice cream, to see them go through troubles and overcome them both individually and as a couple. I was so freaking excited to see more of Tara and your take on a fairy realm, to see how Finnâs pseudo-immortality and Theoâs past demons would come into play. I wanted so much more development on Finnâs character, his flaws and quirks, his skeletons in the closet since weâd never really had his POV. I even had hopes of a storyline where Voldemort tries to get into Tara(because of the so-called immortality, duh) and gets horribly burned in the process. I wanted a Feo love child, dammit(Ciara would be such a cool aunt! And with the Weasleys and Blaise/Draco on one side of the family and Tiernan and the royal court on the other than kid would be the best protected, most spoilt kid in existence). I had hopes, Breanie. Dreams. And you destroyed them all with that single scene.) and so. Fucking. Tragic. And like ten chapters later you put Ginny under bloodlust where she hates Harry and wants to kill him (this was a seriously fucked up idea and I applaud your imagination. And sincerely hope you never become a investigator, because that would be scary.) and I read this bit with my heart in my throat because even if I donât really like book or movie Hinny(Ginny seems too much of a side character and has so little personality, as Iâm sure you know) but I adore fandom Hinny and YOU ARE NOT GOING TO RUIN YET ANOTHER OF MY FAVOURITE SHIPS IN THIS FIC DAMMIT but I chickened out and never read past that to see if she got cured. She did, right? Sheâs not dying slowly from poison in her bloodstream or anything? Right? Donât correct me if Iâm wrong though, I prefer to remain oblivious and happy in a world where nobody dies and everybody gets therapy.
But anyway, the point of me spilling my life story to you here was to thank you. You may not have intentionally made this fic for me, but it was a lot more effective than most of my therapy sessions since I could get my thoughts and feelings out in a roundabout way. ASC may not be a major part of my life currently, but itâs still a large part of who I am, and I am indebted to you for making this safe space. I turned fifteen and came out as panromantic/asexual. I turned sixteen and came out as a demigirl. I have career aspirations and Iâm actually working on them. Iâm working on long-term plans, which I never couldâve imagined having three years ago. And though I lost hearing in one ear last month, I didnât consider ending things, not even once. Still havenât. I have midterms but Iâm not stressing myself to the max over them, and I actually have a social life now. And itâs not all completely thanks to you, but there is still a large part of my sanity that owes itself entirely to the fanfiction writers of 2020. And a slice of that pie is yours. So - thank you. For everything. Youâre a truly gifted writer.
And before I forget - does Theo like, ever get closure? Hypothetically the fae have realm glasses. Which might come into use. Can fae get reborn? Just asking.
And does Zee ever date again? Like - I know Sirius was her person, but when the kids get older and she grows olderâŠ
One more question: how does someone like Delta turn out to be evil?! She was so freaking supportive when Hermione was researching human rights. Another question: Blaise survives, right? Because that guy is a riot. And another: I reread chapters 200-272 for this and realized that Finn just randomly carries around a pair of golden handcuffs? Like what was the story behind that. Did he get cornered one day and decide that âhenceforth, I shall carry handcuffsâ? And Crouchâs âwivesââŠdo Millie and Hestia ever escape? My last random question: whatever happened to Arnold the Pygmy Puff?
Also is there any way I can send you a virtual fruit basket?
Hi, @savvyspirit
Wow! Thank you very much for sharing so much for me. I'm honoured my story had such a profound impact on you personally. Good for you for being honest and open with yourself about who you are. Nothing is more important. Thank you so much for sharing that my story helped you in a roundabout way. That's very cool to hear.
I understand that the story took a darker turn and did get too real too fast, but I do hope you go back to it now that it's complete and now that I'm finishing up the trilogy. Harry and Ginny are definitely getting their happy ending, that I can promise.
Finn was an important part of Theo's life and an important part of the story, but unfortunately he wasn't who Theo was meant to spend his life with. That's someone else and if you keep reading, I promise you'll see him much happier than he ever was with Finn. Yes, he does get closure. As to Zee, well... yes, she does find love (you have to keep reading to find out). Delta aka Belladonna was a lot of fun to have be evil the whole time and you learn more about her how and why as the story goes on. Blaise does survive and we get to know more about him too. Finn carried around handcuffs because he was part of the Royal Guard of Tara. Millie and Hestia do survive. Arnold is still around, promise.
Ha, as to a virtual fruit basket -- I'll take those in story reviews on Ao3 or ff.net please and thanks.
Thank you very much for sharing this with me and I sincerely hope you delve back into the world of ASC because I really do think it's worth it. Thank you!
I scoured the internet and was able to find the scripts for the episodes through 25. I havent seen anyone else type them out yet so here you go!!! Also editing this took SO LONG!! So THANK YOU to anyone that has done this before. SPOILERS BELOW!Â
Episode 17
NARRATOR: Welcome back to Love Island, where the first major recoupling is almost upon us.
NARRATOR: Some things just couple up well together. Eggs and Bacon. Strawberries and cream.
NARRATOR: Maybe Finn and Kat? Or Alfie and Meera?
NARRATOR: I sure hope MC doesnât end up coupled up with a first class plane ticket home.
NARRATOR: Only joking⊠Sheâll be travelling economy. We had to pay extra for all her baggage!
NARRATOR: But pretty soon one of the girls is gonna be travelling away from this island paradise of ours.
You and Dana sit together at the fire pit. Thereâs an ominous tension in the air as you look around at the area that is soon to house the drama of the recoupling.,
DANA: The next time we sit here things are gonna be a little more intense.
MC: Â Yeah.
DANA: The butterflies are kicking in already.
DANA: Itâs suddenly dawning on me that somebody is going home. Like, thatâs a big deal."
DANA: The villa just wonât be the same if one of the original Islanders gets booted out.
DANA: Especially if itâs you or me.
You can hear the sounds of some of the other Islanders chatting and laughing from various places around the villa.,
DANA: You know, this could be the last time that we get to chat like this."
MC: Yeah, it could be."
DANA_S Missing people really isnât a nice feeling is it?
** CHOICE **
MC: I donât want to think about how Iâll miss people either
MC: I donât really miss people
MC: Iâm not sure if Iâll miss people or not
MC: I canât get my head around the idea of somebody I care about being kicked out of the villa.
MC: Â The whole thing just upsets me.
DANA: Yeah, itâs a tough thing to think about."
DANA: But, letâs put on brave faces and deal with it the best we can."
MC: I tend not to miss people. To be honest, Iâm not really sentimental in that way."
DANA: To be fair youâll probably end up seeing whoever leaves again at some point.
DANA: But, theyâre gonna be swamped with all sorts of new things. They could drift away from you."
DANA: And then maybe youâll wish that youâd missed them sooner.
MC: I donât know how Iâm going to feel.
MC: The whole recoupling is probably going to be so extra that I wonât have time to think.
DANA: Yeah, I get that."
Dana shimmies along the seat so that sheâs closer to you. She looks directly into your eyes.
DANA: You know, MC, Iâm not the sort to get all down about stuff. Gotta keep those spirits up."
DANA: But this is stressing me.
DANA: I didnât think it would, but I gotta admit, itâs really getting to me. Itâs got me right in the feels."
DANA: I just wish things were more secure. I wish I was coupled up and knew for certain that I was staying.
DANA: Like, to know that you would be picking me, and weâd be together. That would make things so much easier.",
MC: Sorry, Dana, but thatâs just not how the recoupling is gonna be."
DANA: I know, Iâm just saying."
DANA: And, the way that the new girls have come in and stolen the attention has changed everything."
DANA: And not just for me. You too. Kat seems to be the only girl thatâs remotely secure.
DANA: Weâve got Suresh cracking on with Arlo and enjoying holding the cards.
DANA: Alfieâs being charmed by Meera.,
DANA: Eddieâs being flakey and unpredictable as always.
DANA: I know weâre in a competition, but my chances are looking rough!",
Dana falls silent for a moment. She looks down at the floor.
MC: Are you ok, Dana?"
DANA: Sorry, MC, you probably didnât expect me to get all wobbly like this."
DANA: But, Iâve gotta tell you, I donât want to not be with you."
DANA: Iâve loved every minute that Iâve spent with you here. I canât imagine my life without you in it.
DANA: Youâre the partner that Iâve always wanted. (IF Flirty with Dana)
DANA: Youâre the best friend that Iâve always wanted (Friendzoned)
DANA: So, do you think youâll be a part of my life outside the villa?"
**CHOICE**
MC: Me and you are forever
MC: Me and you might just be villa buddies
MC: Iâm not sure I can predict the future
MC: Me and you are for life, Dana. We might just be the real deal.
DANA: I love the sound of that, gorgeous!"
MC: BFFs till the end of time!
DANA: I love the sound of that, mate!
MC: Thereâs always a chance that me and you are just short term villa friends.
DANA: You canât believe that surely? This might not be the real world, but our connection is real."
MC: Whatever happens is gonna happen. I havenât got a crystal ball.
DANA: Well, I have, and I see you and me many years from now."
The sound of a phone ping is heard.
MC: Thatâs me.
You look down at your phone.
MC: Iâve got a text everyone!
The rest of the Islanders gather around you and Dana.
"LITEXT: Islanders, the time has come for the first recoupling. Get glammed up because this might be your last time to shine! #NewCouples #AreYouPackingYourBags?
ARLO: This is so exciting.
MEERA: It is. But itâs kind of nerve-wracking too.
ALFIE: Donât be nervous, Meera, youâll be fine."
You look at Dana, she attempts to reassure you with a smile."
KAT: Well, Iâm not wasting any more time out here. The dressing room is calling."
Kat runs off to the dressing room.
ARLO: Oh a race is it?
âArlo, not wanting to fall behind, rushes away in pursuit of Kat."
MEERA: I guess I should join them too. If thereâs ever been a time to look my best, this is it."
Meera smiles at Alfie before following Arlo and Kat.,
FINN: Itâs nice to know that the girls are putting the effort in to catch my eye.
SURESH: It doesnât require any effort to catch your eye bro.
EDDIE: Yeah, Finn, youâre not some complex puzzle mate."
FINN: You can talk! Youâre barely as complicated as a two piece jigsaw.
ALFIE: Boys, thereâs no time for this. We need to look as sharp as the girls."
The boys all run into the villa to start getting dressed for the recoupling.
DANA: Well, here goes."
Dana holds her arms out for you.
CHOICE:
MC: Give Dana a gentle kiss on the cheek
MC: Give Dana a friendly hug
MC: Rush away to get dressed
You let Dana wrap her arms around you.
You give her a gentle soft kiss on the cheek.
MC: Weâre going to be ok.
DANA: I hope so.
Dana looks deep into your eyes like she wants to say something, but doesnât.
You throw your arms around Dana and the two of you share a warm friendly hug.
MC: Weâre going to be ok.
DANA: I hope so.
You turn from Dana, running away to the villa.
MC: Thereâs no time to waste, Dana.
DANA: Sorry, I didnât realise I was wasting your time.
You head towards the dressing room with Dana following close behind.
The dressing room is abuzz with activity. Parts of outfits being taken on then off. Lotions being rubbed. Sprays being sprayed.
KAT: Ah, Iâve not had a hair day this bad since I got some chewie stuck in it at school."
ARLO: Why do you care how good you look? Youâre safe arenât you? You donât need to impress anybody.
KAT: I am safe, yeah, but Iâm still gonna look better than you."
ARLO: You sound nervous to me, Kat. Worrying about Finn?"
KAT: Arlo babe, why donât you just concentrate on sorting your own look out? It could do with a bit of work.
MC: Guys, please! Weâve got enough to deal with without you two going at each other."
KAT: She started it!
DANA: MC's right. One of us is going home tonight, letâs not say goodbye through gritted teeth."
MEERA:I agree. Letâs not fight.
ARLO: Iâm not trying to fight, Iâm just trying to get a feel for how everybody is doing."
KAT: Yeah, yeah. Whatever, Arlo."
ARLO: What do you think, MC? You think youâre safe?"
** CHOICE **
MC: One hundred percent safe
MC: Nobody is safe
MC: Iâd rather not say
MC: Of course Iâm safe. Iâve got a few optionsâŠ
KAT: A few options? Like who?,
ARLO: Other peopleâs partners I guess.
ARLO: And I thought I was the confident one.
MC: Anything could happen at the recoupling. None of us are safe right now.
DANA: Yeah, you canât really argue with that.
KAT: Sorry, Dana, but I can argue with that. Iâm safe, get over it girls."
MC: Now that weâre so close to the recoupling, Iâd rather keep my opinions to myself."
MEERA: Yeah you donât want to jinx things.
ARLO: What? Are you guys superstitious now?,
DANA: Youâve got to respect their opinions, Arlo."
ARLO: Fair enough.
The door of the dressing room opens and Alfie appears.
ALFIE: Sorry ladies, I just need to grab the old kitbag."
ALFIE: Need my tools if Iâm gonna look my best tonight.
ALFIE: And Iâm supposed to fetch Finnâs moisturiser, he thinks he left it in here.â
Kat throws the bottle of moisturiser to Alfie. He catches it.
KAT: Tell Finn that itâs my moisturiser.
KAT: And remind him that it ainât cheap, he throws it about like ketchup on chips."
ALFIE: Will do.
You pick up his toiletries bag and throw it to him. He catches a glimpse of you.
Are there any plots that you just refuse to take seriously and/or hold against the characters, because you find them to just be THAT stupid or ooc?
Like for me, I just simply cannot be bothered about Santana's role in the Brody mess. The whole plot was clearly about giving Finchel that "stay away from my future wife" moment that we're meant to swoon over, and Santana was nothing but a plot device to get Finn in the room. So whatever. I am not engaging.
And it's slightly different, but I still mostly ignore the entire Lucy Caboosey plot. To this day, I mostly view it as them grasping for something to mock about Dianna, and coming up empty, they were like "let's just have fun destroying a pic of her in photoshop". The only good thing I took from that plot was it allows Santana to call her "Lucy Q" in fics.
Okay no more procrastinating answering this, hey Anon. Sadly I can't say I took so long because I've come up with a myriad of examples. Truth is, Glee's both a) so inconsistent and b) so far removed from reality at times and tonally shifting all the time that there are a bunch of moments we could dismiss as OOC. It actually seems to be an issue that everyone has that line in the fandom where they ignore things but the line is somewhere else in each case. Fun, thanks Glee.
For me, I actually don't cut Santana slack for that one because it was a big Yikes and unfortunately something she would at least sorta do. I do fully consider Finn a freak for it as well and hate the framing of the scene. As for Lucy Caboosey, it's funny, I've never known where I stood with that. I still don't. Honestly, since I can make it work I don't hate it all that much. I often feel like I do a lot of the heavy-lifting for the writers, more so than they deserve but Lucy Q is one of those that I can sort of make work so I don't ignore it.
An example of my own that immediately comes to mind is the infamous sex tape, of course, which is played for laughs and is the second most infuriating thing Flopson has written. Wow that man's scripts suck. I simply cannot treat it seriously or even as part of canon most of the time because it's just so icky. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite because I won't hold it against Britt's character but I just refuse to engage with that plot on any serious level. You can't, it's non-consensual distribution of underage p*rn played for laughs. Not even good laughs! Pathetic.
Another much less serious example that comes mind, and one that pisses me off regardless of it being a minor instance is Rachel and Mercedes' bathroom scene in 100. When Mercedes says Santana is one of high school ghosts? When she and Rachel commiserate about people like Santana and Quinn? No. Absolutely not. I refuse to indulge this pity fest designed to reestablish Rachel as the ultimate underdog despite all her dreams coming true. I refuse to let the writers throw not one, not two, but like four rich and interesting female dynamics under the bus. All so we can be clear who the baddie is and get rid of any sort of nuance in the Pezberry feud. They can pry Sancedes from my dead cold hands, and same goes for Quinncedes. Wasn't it enough throwing Quinntana under the bus in Trio? God, where does it stop.
Those moments often annoy me much more than entire storylines do. When the writers can only elevate one friendship/relationship by downplaying another. It's a sign of weak writing and I hate it. It's like they treat personal relationships as a zero-sum game. Anyway, other than that I'm blanking on standout OOC moments. I'm sure there are loads, like I said Glee's inconsistency is awful and happens not only from episode to episode but within 45-minute spans. It's inevitable that many moments will feel OOC and completely out of place. The ones I'd care most about are, naturally, Santana-related ones, but for better or worse I can integrate just about anything into a logical arc for her. Except for not talking to any of her friends in season 6. But I don't see that as an in-universe problem.
"The fuck does she get off?" Cillian cried, throwing his bag across the trailer he shared with Paul Anderson.
"Someone's a fan of my new love interest!" Paul laughed watching Cillian fume as he paced the small trailer over and over again.
"I knew casting her was a mistake, she's fucking delusional!!!"
"What's she done now..."
"Literally THREW her coffee cup at her PA because she put milk in it... THREW IT!!! At her PA!!! Poor girl was fucking terrified man!"
"She's hot though, ain't she?'
"What? Fuck sake Paul you ever NOT think with your dick?" Paul smirked, raising his eyebrows at Cillian knowingly. "Yes okay, she's a good looking girl, but that doesn't mean she can get away with trampling over people to get her own way does it?"
"Maybe she just needs a good, solid man to ground her a little, bring her back to earth a bit?" Paul smirked.
"Go for it man, good luck to you. Last fella she had probably still needs therapy."
"Oh I wasn't talking about me mate." Cillian looked at him suspiciously.
"What?"
"Oh for fucks sake Cillian, when was your last eye test? Can you not see what's clear as daylight, right in front of you??" Cillian's eyes widened, not understanding a word coming out of Paul's mouth.
"You've lost me."
"Wonder if she's part Irish. Or wants to be...." Cillian's face contorted.
"Don't use that line it's fucking cheesy... Never works either. What's your point?"
"Mate if you don't get in there quick, she's gonna lose interest and Finn will be at it like a shot!"
"You're having a laugh aren't you? I'm not even remotely interested!"
"Uh huh. Okay. Just don't say I didn't warn you eh?" Paul put his baseball cap on and headed out the door, still with a smirk on his face. Cillian took a seat on the sofa and ran his fingers through what was left of his hair, rolling his eyes. Yes, Natalie was fucking hot... But my god was she challenging.
Throwing that cup today was one thing. Telling the director she didn't like her character was another. Her original character was supposed to be Tommy's new 'plaything' behind Lizzie's back, but Natalie had apparently requested a change of direction - she wanted to be Arthur's new love interest, nothing to do with Tommy at all. That confused Cillian, and he'd had to think back to see if he'd ever worked with her in the past, obviously he'd pissed her off at some stage, why else would being his onscreen love interest be so repulsive to her that she demanded an entire script change?
Heading into the bathroom, he glanced at himself in the mirror. He wasn't exactly repulsive, surely? Yes he had a few more wrinkles now that he did in series one, but he was nearly 45 now...
He shook his head quickly - why did it even bother him whether she found him attractive or not?? She was 32, not that much younger than him but still way out of his league, and to top it off she was a fucking nightmare!
But those legs... Her eyes... Her lips... He couldn't help himself imagining those lips wrapped around his cock when he lay in bed in his Manchester apartment alone at night... Without thinking he found himself palming the growing erection under his jeans, feeling that familiar stirring in his groin. Shaking his head quickly, he splashed his face with cold water and rearranged himself in his jeans, calming himself down before he embarrassed himself. Once his erection had gone down, he headed back out of the trailer and over to his hire car, the driver ready and waiting to take him back to the apartment block.
Natalie opened her apartment door and crashed onto the sofa, exhausted. A full week of intense filming, she was more than ready for a soak in the bath and a glass of Shiraz. Opening the cupboard in the kitchen area she groaned - no wine. She also remembered the bubble bath she'd bought, and subsequently left in her trailer back on set...
She fished around in her bag for her room key again, and bit her lip. She knew exactly who would have a bottle of bubble bath... She groaned to herself, having successfully avoided him up until now but her aching limbs were crying out for some Radox. She left her apartment and knocked on the door across the hall.
Cillian answered a few minutes later with just a towel wrapped around his waist and his hair wet.
"Erm... Hey?" He asked, not opening the door fully, more hiding himself behind it.
"Okay um, this is random I know, but I was just wondering if maybe you had any bubble bath going spare? Please?"
"Really?" He laughed.
"Is it so surprising to you that a girl likes a bath now and again?"
"No actually, what's surprising is that you actually have manners."
"I beg your pardon?"
"You said 'please'. Didn't think you had it in you."
"Listen, you either have bubble bath spare, or you don't, it's a simple fucking question Cillian."
"Those tactics won't work with me love." Cillian
"Forget it, for fucks sake..." She turned to leave, rolling her eyes.
"Wait.. yes I have spare. Come in, I'll grab it for you." He pushed the door open so Natalie could walk inside, before heading into the bathroom. Coming back out with his jeans on, she couldn't help but be drawn to his toned chest and biceps, his upper body still damp from his own bath moments before she'd disturbed him.
Cillian caught her checking him out and smirked a little, handing over the bottle of Radox. She took it, smiling a touch herself.
"You smile too." She lowered her eyes and tried to hide the grin on her face. "You're not as hard faced as you try and make out, are you?" His arms were folded across his chest now, leaning against the kitchen counter.
Her eyes suddenly watered, and she bit her lip. Cillian frowned watching her well up and instinctively moved closer, taking her shoulders into his hands.
"Hey now... I didn't mean to upset you..."
"No... No I deserved it. God I'm so sick of this!"
"Sick of what?"
"I have this reputation of being a diva... With my career... I just like things to be perfect and when they're not I can lose my temper so quickly and it's fucking horrible and I make people hate me!" She choked back a sob, and Cillian pulled her into his arms, holding her as her shoulders shook.
"We all like things to be perfect Nat, but life doesn't work out like a fairytale, things just go wrong and that's okay?"
"I know, and I always feel so fucking guilty afterwards.. I can't stop now - my reputation is the only thing keeping me in the press, keeping me relevant..."
"You're kidding, right? So all this bitchiness, the demanding ways - it's an act?"
"Some of my best work has been off camera Cill." He couldn't help but laugh. He opened the cupboard and pulled out two small glasses, followed by a bottle of Irish Whiskey. Offering Nat one, she nodded, and they both moved into the lounge area.
They talked for a while - comparing stories of Hollywood, other actors they'd worked with, before Cillian cleared his throat. He needed to know the truth about her changing the script to be Arthur's love interest rather than Tommy's, and now she'd sank a few whiskeys, she was probably loose enough to tell him straight.
She hung her head, embarrassed. She knew he'd probably find out eventually, being one of the producers, but she hoped if she avoided him long enough she'd never need to reveal the truth to him.
"I also turned down Inception. And they offered me Thandie Newton's role in The Retreat."
"Okay..."
"I turned them all down when I found out you were in them."
"Ouch!" He chuckled nervously, "I don't think I want to ask why!"
"Because.. and this is awkward so don't laugh yeah?" He nodded as a promise not to, but his eyes widened when she revealed the truth. "Because I've had a crush on you since I was a teenager... And I didn't wanna make it awkward but I guess I just kinda did.."
Cillian was stunned into silence for a minute, or five. His silence made her nervous, and she pulled herself off the sofa to head out, realising how much of a fool she'd made herself. Making a mental note to blame the whiskey in the morning, she stood up, only to feel his hands suddenly on her waist as he stood up next to her.
"So that's why you didn't want to play Tommy's love interest, huh?" He held her in front of him, his hands squeezing her hips as he pulled her closer.
"Would've been too awkward.. for me at least.." closer still, their faces now inches apart.
"Does this feel awkward?" Their bodies met, her heart pounding in her chest. She could feel how aroused he was, pressed up against her, making her breathing heavier.
"No..." He leaned down, pressing his lips gently against hers, just ghosting over them.
"And this?" He whispered, his hands moving up, not quite over her breasts, just underneath them and round her lower ribs. She couldn't speak, just shook her head. Her breath hitching in her throat as a hand snaked back down, under her leggings and underwear, softly caressing her inner thigh and mound. Cillian glanced at her, her eyes closed and breathing deepening as his fingers traced her core, pushing a finger inside her to feel how much she was throbbing for him.
"Want me to help you with that?" She nodded again, and felt his fingers probe her, moving up slightly to brush against her clit making her hips grind against him and her fingers press into his biceps. His fingers moved slowly, circling the small bud.
"That feels good...." She panted, rocking her hips to ride his fingers, needing more.
He responded by moving his fingers quicker, pushing the small button harder. Her head fell against his chest and she groaned, her orgasm coming quickly.
"Gonna make a mess on my fingers, Nat?" He whispered in her ear, her breath coming in short bursts now. His other hand moved to her hair, pulling the bobble from it and letting it fall down her back, running his fingers through and tugging it to pull her head back. His lips on her neck, biting and sucking at the skin. Her hand resting on his arm, keeping him in place as he fingered her.
"Don't stop... Don't stop... Faster..." She gasped, and he happily complied. Rubbing her clit hard now under her clothing.
"Make a mess on me, cum for me..." She came with a force she'd never felt before, gripping onto his arms and holding his arm steady, riding her hips against his hand as her orgasm began to subside. He gave her a few minutes to catch her breath before pulling his hand away, bringing his fingers to his lips to taste her, groaning at the sweetness and pressing his lips against hers.
Bringing her close again, he backed her up until her calves hit the sofa, before laying her against the cushions and pulling her leggings down, her underwear with them. She spread her legs, biting her lip as his mouth kissed up her thighs.
"You want me to fuck you, Nat?" He lifted her t shirt over her head, her body completely bare now as she nodded.
Her fingers pulled at his jeans, and he unfastened them, easing his erection out before allowing them to fall to the floor, kicking them across the room. Natalie pushed him onto the sofa, sitting up against the cushions before straddling him, his hard cock now pressed against her soaked core.
"I'm gonna fuck you, that okay?" She smiled, her forehead pressed against his as she sunk down on his length, gasping at the sensation of being completely filled by the man she had fantasised about for years. His hands moved to her hips, before she moved them, putting them behind his head, taking full control. He smirked, before his mouth fell open - her hips riding him felt incredible. Pulling her body up, keeping the tip inside, she bounced gently, teasing him. Sinking down on him again, only to repeat the process. His legs were shaking from the sensations.
"Don't tease me, ride me." His blue eyes were like ice, and Nat sunk down so he was fully sheathed before moving her hips back and forth. She released his hands and gripped onto his shoulders for leverage, arching her body backwards slightly so his cock hit against her g spot deep inside her. One of his hands moved to her ass cheek, the other to one of her breasts, both of them squeezing and kneading at the flesh as her body grinded against him.
The hand on her ass moved round to circle her still sensitive clit, making her hips jerk faster.
"Cillian.... Cillian...." Her breathy moans of his name, the way her pussy clamped him, claiming him completely, the feel of her firm breast in his hand, the way her eyes fluttered closed as her orgasm approached... She was intoxicating.
"Baby.. I'm close..." He groaned, feeling that burning coil in his abdomen.
"Me too... I'm on the pill..." He grinned and held her hips still, pounding his hips up hard from underneath her. He had to cover her mouth to silence her loud screams, careful not to alert Paul in the next apartment. That only seemed to turn her on more, and she took two of his fingers into her mouth, sucking them, still tasting herself on them from earlier. The hand on her ass slapped it and squeezed it hard in response, making her cry out.
"That's it... Good girl... Fuck, I'm gonna cum..." Her orgasm flowed from her at his words, and she felt him shoot several streams of hot cum deep inside her as her walls clenched around him, milking him for all he had to give her.
Their foreheads pressed together again, both panting as they rode out the waves of pleasure.
"Does that live up to your fantasy?" He chuckled, groaning a little as she gave him a final clench of her walls.
"More than... Fuck that was incredible..." She gasped, gently rocking against him, not wanting him to leave her body just yet. She could feel him hardening again, in fact she wasn't sure he even softened.
"Don't stop, keep moving... Nice and slow.. Just like that..." He helped her hips move slowly, riding him gently.
"You're insatiable, aren't you..." She groaned.
"You feel too good wrapped around me, full of my cum deep inside you... You gonna let me fill you up again yeah?" She didn't answer, instead just allowed him to move her against him. He brought her hand down to rub her clit, needing to feel her cum again. She circled the bud gently at first, then feeling his cock start to twitch inside her she picked up the pace. He suddenly moved them so she was underneath him, his hips pistoning into her as he bent his head down to watch her fingers pleasuring herself.
"I'm gonna cum, Cillian...."
"I'm right there with you, come on..." A deep groan from both of them as they came together, him filling her up for the second time.
His body fell against hers as she held his shoulders, his face buried in her neck lightly caressing the skin with the tip of his nose.
"Fuck... Natalie... I haven't been able to do that for years," he laughed, hissing slightly pulling his sensitive cock out of her. Their mixed juices flowing from her onto the sofa cushion.
"I only came over for bubble bath.." she chuckled, her head laid back against the arm of the sofa as she caught her breath.
"My bath's probably still warm, might as well jump in with me?" He offered.
"No funny business in there, I think I need a breather..."
"Better make it a quick bath then. You're not leaving this apartment tonight. Or this weekend, in fact."
Most movies follow a general script type depending on genre, and this is used to tell a story that has a satisfying ending. It is interesting when a movie mixes up type and tone and goes against genre type. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it is terrible. Great directing and acting can make the subversion of expectations less jarring (or more depending on the end goal), but the end goal and tone allows us to attach a film to a genre. But what about films that aren't about the end goal? There are many films that are in a sub-genre that focus on the journey with little regard to the end goal. These are what are called "road movies" and can fall under many different genres since the end goal doesn't really matter. Let's address some famous road movies through the years that are also classified in a variety of other genres:
Huckleberry Finn (1931)
The OG of travel films, this was the sequel to Tom Sawyer (1930) and had the same child actors. This wasn't what you would call financially successful, but this was largely due to the Great Depression. The 1939 version of the movie did a lot better and was one of the well known films of child actor Mickey Rooney. This story of travel was an early role for many actors including Rooney, Ron Howard, and Elijah Wood. Although there were threats of death and portrayals of slavery, this film was considered a family adventure in the pre-code film era. I guess a boy escaping his abusive father in the company of an adult escaped slave where people are actively attempting to rob and kill them was considered a fun family romp in the early 30s. This was the same story that came from a book that was banned in schools during the 1980s. It is a great story and I love the works of Mark Twain; I am just surprised at the genre.
Stagecoach (1939)
This is a great movie that transcends the Western genre of which it is categorized. A group of people all have different reasons for traveling from an Arizona territory over to New Mexico. There is word of vengeful thieves and angry Apaches that threaten the small band of travelers. It is actually very intense because the threat feels very real throughout the film. The entire film focuses on the journey and the relationships forged (and broken) on the way. This was the breakout role for John Wayne and was part of an amazing string of films directed by John Ford and starring John Wayne.
Easy Rider (1969)
This is a film that really spoke to the hippie movement during the Vietnam Era. It is statement on how difficult it is to truly be free and how society fears that freedom and tries to destroy it. The film might very well have the worst dialogue of any movie I have ever seen. Actors Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper were actively using drugs throughout film production, so the real draw was the sweet rides and the moving soundtrack. This is a movie where I actually want more driving montages and less character development because I don't identify with the characters at all. Maybe it is a generational gap.
Paper Moon (1973)
This film is amazing. It is the story of a traveling grifter who takes a little girl on the road with him after her mother dies. He teaches her how to make a living cheating people and they form a father-daughter type of relationship. It is a comedy drama that won the girl an Oscar for best supporting actress when she was only 10. Some nice back story, the girl is Tatum O'Neal and is the actual daughter of the grifter, played by Ryan O'Neal. It is kind of strange, but this is a "coming of age" film on the road.
The Blues Brothers (1980)
Now this is what I am talking about. Two brothers go on a trip after being released from jail because they got a message from God. I am pretty sure that this film still holds the record for most crashed vehicles in a single movie. It is also interesting that the film is technically a musical. The brothers stop at different locations and songs break out. In between stops, they are chased by the police in an almost demolition derby style chase. I really enjoy this movie and believe that it really keeps a fast pace (literally and figuratively), but, like many road films, I can't say it is good because it is more of an experience than a story.
Thelma and Louise (1991)
This was an interesting twist on the "run from the law" type of film. Two women are friends and decide go on a weekend retreat. They get in trouble after killing a man who tries to assault them and have to run from the authorities. It has a reputation for being very feminist (despite being directed by accused mesogenist Ridley Scott) because of the negative portrayal of men. It obviously wasn't that bad since it was nominated for 6 Oscars including both leads for best actress. In fact, Geena Davis and Susan Sarandon were both nominated for best actress at the Academy Awards, the BAFTAs, and the Golden Globes. It is the quintessential road film since the end goal is constantly changing and best defined as "away from here."
Natural Bork Killers (1994)
This was kind of a strange film. It is a crime drama where the audience follows two killers with traumatic childhoods as they meet and go on a murder spree. Similar to Bonnie and Clyde, but with gory murders as the focus over bank robberies. It is directed by Oliver Stone, and criticizes the glorification of violence by the media. It is most definitely a road movie because the end goal for the two is simply to be together and enjoy the rush of breaking the law. Hm. It is actually quite a bit like Bonnie and Clyde. Interesting. I would like to make a note that my mom hates this film because of the shaky cam and Dutch angles. It made her feel sick at the theater.
Road Trip (2000)
OK. This is far and away my least favorite film on this list, but it is the most famous "boner road comedy" that I am familiar with. It is a high school/college coming-of-age film that focus on the sexual pursuits of a group of young men. These types of films are marked with gross out humor, gratuitous nudity, and boys trying to have sex. There was a bunch of films like this that came out around the early 2000s and they all had to do with boys traveling some place in search of idealized sex (the plot on this one is a little different, something to do with a sex tape) and generally they find that the best girl for them was there by them all along. It takes a nice idea of character development and throws raunchy jokes and boobs at it. I was not a fan, but it was definitely a thing.
Death Proof (2007)
This is much better shlock. It is the Tarantino version of exploitation grindhouse films of the seventies, but updated to be a women empowerment film. It was part of a double feature that was paired with a horrific zombie outbreak film directed by Rod Rodriguez, but this one is much better on its own. It is the story of an old stunt man who travels around looking for unsuspecting victims whom he can run down in his indestructible car. This is a great example of what a road movie can be because Tarantino took the concept of a slasher and put it completely on the road.
Mad Max Fury Road (2015)
Here is an action revenge film in a post-apocalyptic wasteland where most of the film is driving. The producers couldn't find a director who they trusted with remaking George Miller's Mad Max franchise so the 70 year old Miller said "hold my beer" and made this masterpiece that is arguably better than any of the first three (edit: I guess Miller always intended to direct but it took so long to go into production that he joked in interviews about giving up on it). The original trilogy with Mel Gibson presents an amazing world where most people are nomadic and traveling can be a life or death proposition. Fury Road is the further adventures of the character and his interaction with one Furiosa. The use of many practical effects on moving vehicles that was garnished with CG effects made for one of the best action films in the last decade. It was more than a simple movie about traveling; it was a land were the road was life and everything surrounded the ability to be mobile enough to get supplies in a dead world.
This is by no means all of the road movies. The Wizard of Oz is technically a road movie. The Grapes of Wrath is a critically acclaimed road movie from around the same time. Comedies like The Cannonball Run, Smokey and the Bandit, and National Lampoon's Vacation can all be classified in the genre. Rain Man is one of the best films of all time and it can be classified as a road movie. What it comes down to is that, when considering characters, a writer should think about the journey itself and think of how the leads interact with this entity. The road might be the best character in the whole story.
How do you reconcile the idea of Mike being gay and Byler being canon with how romantic/in love Mike acted towards El during the snowball? It's starting to make me loose hope in Byler.
hi anon!
don't loose hope in byler my friend! Let's dig into the snowball đ (full analysis on slides 113-118 of the link to my byler google slides)
This is going to be long sorry!
So there's an entire part of the snowball that El isn't there for, it's roughly half the scene. There's 3 songs that play during the snowball, "Love Is A Battlefield" "Time after Time" and "Every Breath You Take", and El doesn't show up until the 3rd song "Every Breath You Take" begins.
The 1st part of the scene: "Love Is A Battlefield"
The song "Love Is A Battlefield" alludes to what's about to happen. Not only is the song saying that Love itself is a battlefield because itâs confusing and heartbreaking, but that the dance floor also literally symbolizes a battlefield.
Everyone has someone they want to dance with:
Lucas wants to dance with Max, but so does Dustin.
Will wants to dance with Mike, but so does Eleven, who surprises Mike by showing up later.
Dustin asks some girls to dance, and gets rejected.
How âthe battleâ goes down:
Lucas asks Max to dance and she says yes.
A girl asks Will to dance and after some hesitation and a nudge from Mike, agrees to dance with her.
Will and the girl join Max and Lucas on the dance floor.
Mike and Dustin look longingly out at the dance floor as Will and Max dance with other people
It's a purposeful parallel, both Dustin and Mike are watching the people they like, dance with someone else
Another Mike/Dustin parallel (to them being alone b/c the people they like are with other people right now)
How the rest of 'the battle' goes down:
Eleven shows up and she dances with Mike.
Nancy invites Dustin to dance.
While Dustin is determined to dance with a girl, and Lucas is determined to dance with Max, Mike and Will do nothing and do not take the initiative to ask a girl to dance like Lucas and Dustin do (Lucas and Dustin do because they are the straight ones LOL).
The 2nd part of the scene: "Every Breath You Take"
This song plays from the time El enters the gym and Mike sees her for the first time, to the end of the season. During those few minutes Mike and El have their "romantic" conversation, they dance together, and they kiss.
Little interlude here about the kiss: None of the kisses in this episode were scripted, a mileven kiss was not part of the plan. (as described in the beyond ST series on Netflix by the Duffers, Shawn Levy, and the kids) Specifically for Mileven, Millie asked the Duffers if she and Finn could kiss in the scene, because she was worried that âthe fans are going to be so madâ if they didn't kiss.
The writerâs of the show have said multiple times they do not consider this song a love song, quite literally stating âitâs NOT a love songâ on twitter, as it is about a stalker.
The song plays after the âbattleâ and focuses on the conclusion of said battle and how the kids have paired up. All crushes in middle school are obsessive and more like infatuation than genuine feelings, hinting that these final pairings during this song are not as serious or final as people want to believe. The stalker element of the song represents the kidâs current âlove lifeâ approach this season.
So Mike and El don't have their "romantic" interaction, dance, or kiss to a love song *wink wink, cough cough*
When El walks in, Mike stands up, shocked to see her. Eleven has not been allowed out in public EVER before this, so a lot of his initial reaction is shock. He clearly did not know she was coming because it's dangerous for her to be out in public, and there is no mentions early in the scene about him "waiting for El to show up".
Then the conversation is (official script from 8flix):
Suspicious how Mileven interactions are always described as awkward in the scripts....
I want to talk about the hand hold before they go dance to a song about stalkers (and El stalked Mike all season)
They face each other, they're hands interlocked. Every couple who holds hands like this has issues romantically. Lumax is going to have issues in s4 as we know, there's plenty of analsyis on why Jancy won't be endgame out there, and I can't remember if Joyce and Bob held hands like this sorry :/
But look how Mike holds Will's hand and how Hopper holds Joyce's hand, one on top of the other:
Couples that truly love each other hold hands like this^, not the interlocking across from each other way.
Notice how both Jopper and Byler in these shots are sitting next to each other (they're on the 'same page'), and Mike and El face each other (they aren't on the same page, they're on opposite sides) Mike and Hopper are both on the left and Joyce and Will (the byers) are on the right (facing us).
Yeah... xD
Mike's interactions with El at the snowball are him exercising going straight back into the closet, which to a certain extent whether he knows it or not is kind of not existent in s2 when it's just him and Will. He's vulnerable and honest and true to himself/his sexuality. But when El returns, he and Hopper have that huge screaming fight and he goes right back in the closet as soon as El returns.
This is the VERY beginning of how he acts in s3, desperately trying to act straight. trying to deny all those feelings for Will that got stirred up and Brough to the light in s2, he stuffs those down and says "no" to them. He is using El to hide his sexuality, deny it and try and convince himself he is in fact straight and that he likes El the same way his friends like girls. He wants to be normal, there's a lot of fear that causes him to make this decision to try and act straight, but it's almost reflex for him. He's terrified of what will happen to him if he is gay. He's also projecting the romantic feelings he has for Will, onto El, because it's socially acceptable for him to like and be romantic with her, but not with Will. It's a way for him to express his feelings for Will, only to someone else.
I hope I could give you some byler hope! it's gonna happen just hang in there!
Summary: Itâs 1924 in the Little Lady Blinder universe. Clara and Finn make their annual visit to their motherâs grave.
Inspired-ish by this request:Â Also do the family celebrate her mums birthday? I think it would be a nice occasion where they celebrate her birthday and itâs nice for the twins especially whilst the boys are away polly makes a thing of it. ( I know nothing like this happens on the show, but I think they should) xxx
AN: So while I donât think the family would celebrate her birthday, and actually find it painful to talk about her most times, I could see Finn and Clara sharing a little tradition like Iâve written about below. Itâs not quite what youâve asked for, but I hope you still like it!
Featuring: Finn Shelby, Clara Shelby (Shelby!Sister), Shelby!Mother
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Claraâs mind was settled on approximately seven things aside from the path she walked along, paying more mind to the questions in her head than the cobblestones at her feet. Truth was Clara had little need to pay attention to where she was going. She was far more familiar with the cemetery and itâs surrounding landscape than she was comfortable with, having buried far too many in her relatively short life.Â
âYouâre late.âÂ
Finn flicked his cigarette away, startling his sister as she glanced up from the pavement. He pushed off the pillar heâd been leaning up against, the entrance a sad excuse for a welcome, composed of no more than two crumbling stone columns and a rusted wrought iron gate.
Clara pulled her coat tighter, frowning as she stepped closer to her brother. âTommy came back early, said he wanted me to go through some things with him before the⊠I suppose it doesnâtâŠâ Clara took a breath and met Finnâs eye. âIâm sorry.âÂ
Finn shook his head, closing the remaining distance to pull her into a hug, his chin easily fitting over the top of her head. They hadnât seen each other for a stretch of time, both of them overly occupied by the vastly different bits of life that customarily kept them apart, the Blinder duties and generally reckless adventures for Finn, and the Shelby Company Ltd. duties, and school, and family business for Clara. It was the recklessness that usually brought them together, the pair accustomed to passing at least a few evenings a week up to nothing particularly good. But with half the family locked away, theyâd all had to step up. While Finn found getting up to nonsense revitalizing, Clara had been too busy for it, and far too tired aside.Â
âDonât worry about it,â he offered, settling his arm around her shoulder as they walked the familiar route from the entrance to their motherâs grave. âAt least itâs not raining again this year.âÂ
Clara allowed herself a light snort, conceded a small smile as she leaned into her brother because thereâd been more rainy cemetery visits over the years than not. Clara knew her brother didnât care for the annual trip quite as much as he used to, had an inkling that he found it a bit asinine now compared to when they were kids, just a couple of orphans grasping onto a handful of wispy memories of a woman they knew very little about. That described them even still.Â
If Clara was being honest, she found it all a bit silly too, but the âdo we or do we not?â of the occasion was never a discussion between them. The only discourse they ever had on the subject, always initiated by Finn about a week ahead out of custom, was in establishing a time theyâd both be available on her birthday.Â
It had been nearly ten years now that the twins had been coming to their motherâs grave and although theyâd never told the others, never asked for a siblingâs accompaniment or gave a hint as to what they were both doing sneaking off on their motherâs birthday, Clara had a feeling they all somehow knew.Â
It was why when not an hour before, as she grew antsy, repeatedly shaking out her wrist to check the time while she sat perched on the edge of Tommyâs desk, something shifted in him. Tommy simply asked his questions about the books and let her go, wordlessly accepting her answer of âout with Finn. Heâll bring me homeâ when he asked where she was heading off to.Â
Visiting their motherâs grave usually felt a bit like ringing in a new year but with less of the flair and celebration. Maybe an annual audit was a more apt description, seeing as Clara and Finn kept a ledger, a nondescript notebook stashed in the nightstand of Claraâs bedroom at the Watery Lane house, accessible to them both, though Clara would argue that Finn had more access to the archive now than she did, being as he stayed over on the lane much more often.Â
Still, neither of them was likely to touch the book between visits to the cemetery, more likely was it that the ledger passed their minds only in the week or so before their motherâs birthday, and even then, neither of them was apt to do more than think on what theyâd be marking down, mentally preparing themselves for the occasion, ensuring things went smoothly.Â
The book came with rules, a certain etiquette that went unspoken between the two of them from conception to practice. The implicit secrecy of the whole thing, and the way they constricted their documentation to a particular day and place had been precedents set from the start. Theyâd only write while at the cemetery, while in their motherâs supposed presence, and there were limits on what was documented, the format decided nearly a decade prior, each of the entries nearly identical in configuration though the content varied.Â
Finn and Clara recorded what happened in the preceding year, took an audit between the two of them of anything new they learned about the woman, and made a few promises to themselves and each other, intentions expressed just between the two of them. The words held no true pressure for realization, just an assurance of support from the other in the case they chose to move forward.Â
This year felt different to them both as theyâd prepared though, a bit forlorn and detached and impossible, what with Arthur and John and Michael and Polly locked away, and Ada in America, and Esme and Linda barely speaking with the lot of them, allowing the twins a bit of connection for little more than the sake of the babies, and on the order of their husbands.Â
Clara had, on a fair few occasions, pondered what their mother would think of their situation, of Arthur and John locked away, of Clara feeling a bit that way herself while her twin brother was left to flounder, feeling lost and redundant as Tommy did what he did, all of his moves in the name of the family heâd allowed to take the punishment for his sins, and all while Ada played at being a neutral party from a continent away.
They went through the motions without discussions, Finn helping Clara to settle the blanket she always brought and taking a sip from the thermos of nearly cold tea while she found the pen and the appropriate page.Â
âShall we review?â Clara asked, glancing at the page as she marked the year at the top in bold loopy script, 1924.Â
Finn took his time with another sip, prolonging the silence with an exhale and with the pen held still against the page Clara trembled, taking no care to pretend that it was only from the cold.Â
âSheâd be ashamed,â Finn finally said and though Clara nodded, she wasnât entirely sure of what her brother meant. There was far too much she could be ashamed of.Â
Would she be ashamed that her sons and sister-in-law and nephew were criminals of the worst sort? Murderers?
Would she be ashamed that her once sweet, doting Thomas had ordered it all and let the others take the blame?Â
Would she be ashamed of the twins? Of their lack of action in the face of the othersâ plight?
Despite wanting to fight Finn, despite wanting to say that they didnât know their mother well enough to say how she would feel, or that they didnât know Tommyâs plans well enough to decide either way, Clara knew Finn was a bit right, so she swallowed her retort. No mother would wish this for her children, or at least, Clara liked to think that their mother would never wish for this.
And anyway, Clara often questioned those very things herself, pondered if she had put up enough of a fight to Tommy, analyzed at length whether she and Finn and Ada had been too forgiving of it all, but then she thought what choice did they have? Tommy was all they had now, and even if Polly hadnât been locked away in Winson Green or Ada hadnât gone off to Boston, Clara didnât know if she was capable of not forgiving her brother.Â
She hoped a certain part of her mother would be proud of her, proud of the advanced education sheâd received, proud of Claraâs love of stories, and content with the kindness and loyalty she showed to her family, despite it all.Â
Clara took a sip of the tea, grimacing as the cool liquid hit her tongue.Â
âDid you learn anything new?â she asked.
Clara hadnât. The information about their mother, the little anecdotes, usually came so organically, in moments when one of the twins reminded a sibling of some long forgotten trait of hers or when someone was feeling just the right bit of nostalgic, but it had been a busy year, filled with the death and misery and arrests, and very little else.Â
Finnâs answer came with the slight shake of his head and Clara felt the same difficult swallow as her brother, her eyes growing wet though sheâd told herself she wouldnât allow it. Sheâd be strong for Finn today, and for Tommy and Ada and John and Arthur, too. Â
Clara took care as she set the thermos down, a small whimper breaking when Finn took her hand. âSheâd be proud of you though.â
Clara coughed and cleared her throat.Â
âProud of us,â she said, meeting his gaze.
Something in Finnâs face shifted though he kept his hold on both her hand and her eyes. Clara knew Finn didnât truly believe it. The sentiment barely registered with him, and she knew that her brother thought that if he had just run a bit quicker, or shouted a bit louder, he could have saved Arthur and John from the current reality. She knew it because despite everything, she similarly held onto the imprisonments, Johnâs and Arthurâs and Michaelâs, like they were her own, like sheâd been the one to put them in the cell even if sheâd been innocent aside from serving as a bit of fuel to the fire.
Clara put a dash beside the spot sheâd designated for the new information and jotted out a few lines below.Â
âI think this covers the updates.â Clara turned the book towards Finn. âIs there anything...?â
 Finn shook his head as he glanced at the information sheâd inputted, the neutral bullet points that described the past 365 days honest enough though they were far from agreeable.Â
âGoals?â Clara asked.
Finn scoffed as she said it and fished out his pack of cigarettes. âYou mind?âÂ
Clara shook her head, watching as he lit the cigarette and took a long draw from it, scoffing again as he looked at her.Â
âYou know what I wish for?â Finn said, using his cigarette to point at her the same way Tommy often did. âWhat I long for?âÂ
Clara shook her head.Â
âNineteen fucking fourteen,â he said.
Clara felt a shiver run up her spine at the thought. 1914. Things had been simpler then, lighter, but Clara only remembered 1914, and the tenderly memorialized years that care before it, like mere glimpses of a distant life. She remembered bedtime stories and the one-off moments that had frightened or surprised or somehow otherwise wormed inside her psyche but sheâd not give up the decade between just to go back.Â
âIâll just take having everyone home,â Clara answered.Â
âThat all?â Finn asked, shaking his head at her. âCanât believe it would be. I imagine youâre wanting highest marks and employee of the month and a new horse an--â
âThatâs whatâs most important,â Clara answered, nodding a few times to settle it in her mind. âFuck the marks and Tommyâs accounting ledgers. Iâd just like them all home.âÂ
Finn smiled. âAnd Iâd like for them to take us seriously for once,â he said. âItâs only Esme who ever really listens.â
âYeah, cause sheâs not an idiot,â Clara said. âAnd cause sheâs nearly the youngest in her own family. She knows what a shit hand it is.âÂ
âAh, well, I wouldnât know much about that,â Finn said. âItâs you whoâs the baby.â
Clara shook her head, a smile on her face despite the words she offered. âFuck off, Finn.âÂ
Finn smirked at his sister. âCome now, Clara. Weâre sitting on mumâs grave, on her birthday of all days, and youâve gone and cursed twice in less than a minute. Whatâll she think of us?â
âItâs been quite a fucking year, Finn. I think sheâll understand.âÂ
âYeah,â he echoed. âQuite a fucking year.âÂ
Finn watched, quiet as his sister etched two words into the bottom of the page, the twinsâ wishes for the next year summed up with two simple words, home and respect.Â
Marine Biologist AU that no one asked for but I wrote because I miss my second home. Probably two parts.
Very brief mention of a family members death
"Hi welcome to-" Leo stopped his normal speech when he was met with the two most gorgeous men he had ever laid eyes on. "Welcome to the Fort Fisher aquarium. I'm your tour guide Leo and this is Regulus." He somehow managed to snap out of his shock even though the greeting was all muscle memory.
âTwo guides. Must be special." The red haired one laughed a laugh that made doves fly. "I'm Finn." He shook their hands.
"That and both of us wanted a break from sticky children trying to swim with the sharks and gators." Reg smiled.
"Sharks? Like ocean sharks? And ocean alligators?" The shorter one asked in shock and a lot more than a sprinkle of fear.
'Fuck he's adorable' Leo swore internally. "Alligators are typically fresh water reptiles but if you are asking if they are real sharks and alligators, than no. They're theyâre hyperealalistic mechanical sculptures." He kept a straight face.
"Cute and funny." Finn flashed him a smile after another angelic laugh.
Leo had to remind himself to not die right then and there.
âDon't worry, Logan" Finn told the other one. "I'll protect you from the scary teeth, baby."
Now Leo was sad.
âOh yeah, right after you stop ogling over our hot tour guide."
Now Leo was slightly less sad and confused.
âActually." Regulus pulled out his phone. "Our manager just texted and said he needs someone in the gift shop. Have fun." He left with a pat on Leos back.
Leo glared as he walked away, they didn't get texts from anyone for any assignment. Hence the walkie talkies on their belt loops.
âSo, follow me and we can start the tour." +++
âThis is our 235,000 gallon tank." Leo stood over top of the two story tall tank. In here we have our eagle rays, round stingrays, whiptail stingrays, hammerhead sharks, sandbar sharks, sand tiger sharks, hammerhead sharks. We also have two moray eels and an abundance of fish including shanks and groupers. And a personal favorite, Sheldon the green sea turtle.â Leo stood on the rusted grate with ease as if he didnât care about the hammerhead only a few feet away from his toes.
âUm, this is great and all but can we not stand on the edge without a railing?â Logan stayed as far away as he could an the 2 feet wide walkway.
âYouâre completely safe donât worry.â Leo flashed a reassuring smile.
âOkay yeah but-â
âStop being a baby, Lo.â Finn poked his side.
âIâm sorry Iâm scared of falling into a 23 foot deep death cylinder filled with sharks.â Logan defended himself.
âAlright we can go officially start the tour.â Leo laughed. âBut we do have to walk across the tank.â
âWe what?â Logan asked.
âItâs okay. Just donât look down.â He decided to risk a wink.
âListen to the hot guide, babe.â Finn kissed Loganâs cheek. âIâll hold your hand.â
âI love you, Harzy. But I do not trust you enough to not try and scare me.â
âI promi- no I donât. Fine.â Finn whined when his plans were spoiled.
âAlright, letâs go.â Leo laughed.
They got across the walkway with only a few exaggerated wobbles to scare Logan. And a very grumpy Logan when Leo told him there was another way around the tank.
+++
âSo here we have our bald eagle Maverick.â Leo walked up to the opened enclosure. âHeâs five years old and has been here since he was two. He was found on the side of the road nearly starved after being hit by a car. If you look at his left wing you can see it juts out a little. That is due to the bones fusing together incorrectly and it makes him unable to ever fly again.â He recited the well known script.
âPoor babyâ Finn stuck his bottom lip out.
Leo blinked away the urge to kiss the sad look off his face.
âIf we walk up here you can see the aquariums prized possession.â Leo smiled. âLuna the albino Alligator.â
âOh my god.â Finn hurried over to the glass.
âShe looks like you, lover. Pale as fuck.â Logan teased.
âLuna is one of just 100 recorded albino alligators world wide.â
âWorld wide?â Logan asked in shock.
âYeah. Itâs an extremely rare genetic mutation and due to the inability to hide from predators theyâre numbers are next to zero. Very soon theyâll be no more albino gators.â
âWhat happened to that alligators toes?â Logan pointed at the dark green alligator.
âThatâs Gantur. He still hasnât learn that Lunaâs the leader.â
âShe bit them off?â Loganâs eyes went wide.
âDonât underestimate her. Ready to continue?â
+++
âThis is my favorite exhibit.â Leoâs face lit up as they walked up to the touch pool.
âTouch anything as long as you use two fingers and donât pick anything up.â
âAre those stingrays?â Finn pointed towards the end of the touch pool.
âYeah. Theyâre still babies and their stingers have been trimmed. Their barbs are like thumbnails and can be clipped monthly without any harm.â
âWhat are those?â
Leoâs face lit up impossibly more.
âThese are horseshoe crabs.â He held onto one of the dark greenish brown banjo shaped creature.
âThey are also called living fossils due to the fact that they havenât evolved at all since the dinosaurs, around 450 million years. Itâs mostly due to the fact that they didnât need anything added or taken away for survival. They were made perfectly. Now their tails.â He pointed to the long stick like end as it moved around with the help of what looked like scaley gills. âMost people look at it and think it will hurt. But it wonât hurt at all. They are extremely, extremely clumsy and use the long tail to flip themselves back over.â
âSounds like you.â Finn kissed Logan.
âRude.â Logan scoffed.
âHorseshoe crabs arenât actually crabs at all. Theyâre actually more closely related to scorpions and spiders. Watch.â Leo smirked and flipped it over.
There were five pairs of claws moving around as the gills moved up and down like abs, causing the tail to move with it.
âHere-â Leo grabbed Loganâs hand, he tried hard to ignore the way his skin burned. âTouch it.â
âOh no Iâm okay to just look.â
âCome on, just touch it.â Leo begged. âPlease just touch it.â He pouted.
âOh my fuck youâre adorable.â Logan voiced Leoâs exact same thoughts from before.
âHereâ he blushed and bit his lib to contain the smile. âTouch it.â He guided Loganâs hand down to the center of the legs, desperately trying to not think about how close they were. Loganâs t-shirt touching his blue polo shirt with his name stitched in the side. The way he could feel Loganâs breathing against his side, the way his leg was pressed between Logans le- stop it.
âEww that feels weirdâ Loganâs laughed raised goosebumps on his arm.
âYouâre touch his mouth.â
âEw ew ew ewâ Logan pulled his hand away quickly as Finn cackled.
âYou assholeâ Logan laughed as he pushed Leo lightly.
âSorry, but itâs funny.â Leo laughed.
âYou are now my second favorite person on earth.â Finn put a hand on Leoâs shoulder. âOh my god Iâm crying.â He wiped his eyes.
âWouldnât mind if he stayed our favorite.â Logan smiled.
Leo blushed and moved onto the regular view of the huge tank.
+++
âSo howâd you get a job here?â Logan asked Leo as they walked around.
âIâve lived on the island my whole life and started volunteering here when I was 13.â He explained. âIâm going to UNCW for marine biology. Are you two just here for vacation? Even though itâs April.â
âNo. Weâre actually moving down here. My grandparents owned the arcade on the boardwalk and left it to me once they passed.â Finn told him.
âOh. Iâm sorry about their passing.â
âItâs okay. Didnât really know them at all.â
âWell Iâll hopefully see you around.â
âMaybe you donât have to hope.â
Leo tilted his head in confusion.
âWe were just wondering if you would want to show us around the island.â Logan told him. âWeâve only been here for a few days and this is the first place weâve been to. Not even the beach.â
âOh thatâs nearly a sin.â Leo teased. âIâd love to show you guys around. I get off in an hour.â
âPerfect.â Finn said happily. âDo you want to drive over to our house and then switch cars or do you need to change?â
âThatâll work. Thereâs a locker room and since thereâs next to no one here considering the time of year Evan will probably let me leave early.â Leo couldnât hide his smile as they walked into the brightly lit gift shop.
Logan let out a loud gasp and ran over to the 6 foot long jellyfish stuffie. âI want it.â
âItâs tentacles are going to strangle you, love.â Finn shook his head.
âKinkyâ Logan wiggled his eyebrows.
Finn scoffed as three other people in the quiet store laughed.
âOh hi again Regulus.â Logan smiled at the black haired man who was sitting on the countertop beside the register tossing a brightly colored foam ball with turtles on it between his hands.
âHeyâ He smiled back.
âWhatâd they need help with down here?â Finn looked around the empty room cluelessly.
âHe didnât help me?â The girl beside him raised an eyebrow. âHi, Rue by the way.â She waved before going back to glaring at Regulus. âDid Evan tell you to help me?â
âNo.â Reg smirked. âJust wanted to leave Leo alone with his crushes.â
âRegâ Leo pushed him.
âItâs mutual.â Finn said and Logan nodded.
âOkay. Iâm gonna go ask Evan if I can get off early so I can show you a tour of the island and then get changed and Iâll be back down.â Leo changed the subject quickly.
âTheyâll show you a tour of their bedroom and then get you off early.â Rue said quietly but not quiet enough. Leo shoved her hard as Logan, Finn, and Reg cackled.
+++
âSo are we ready?â Leo walked back down in shorts and a UNCW t-shirt.
A cropped UNCW t-shirt.
âUh- yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah.â Finn stuttered failing to make it look like he wasnât staring at Leoâs tan abs.
Finn on the other hand had no shame. His eyes raked his entire body as his mouth went dry.
âAlright. Iâll follow you guys?â
âHuh? Oh yeah.â Logan nodded.
âGet it Knut.â Reg cupped his hands over his mouth and shouted as they left the gift shop and headed outside to the 100 degree weather.
So, after reading @hawkinsschoolcounselor latest post, I went into the comments and, boy- they were, well. They were not great. I mean I guess I laid this onto myself but, anyways, Iâm going to be answering this comment right here:
This is ALL for fun! Itâs all a bunch of light hearted love, but this comment REALLY ticked me the wrong way.
For starters: Thereâs always been this trope in media of âone is enough.â Or âwe have enough representation!â And itâs VERY prevelant in tv shows. The theory that âoh! Thereâs already one gay character, thatâs enough for you, right?â Is sh!tty. Itâs horrible.
Think of it this way: if there are 200 white sheep in a room, and then the shepherd brings in one black sheep, do you think that would suffice the other black sheep from the other herds? Do you think that would âhold them overâ? I mean imagine being a black sheep in a crowd of 200 other white sheep, youâd feel alone. Okay, so now pretend there is a tv show, and this black sheep is watching that tv show, and of course, all the actors in the tv show are WHITE SHEEP. So then, in season 3 of Sheeper Things, they FINALLY introduce a black sheep, and of course the black sheep is happy, but still, they canât help but realize that all of the white sheep are still there and overcome that small black sheep by a LOT!
Iâm assuming that comment was made by someone straight, as they clearly donât grip representation. Also, Iâm assuming that person is slightly homophobic, just by the way they phrased it. It seems odd, I mean, whatâs the issue with having one more gay character?
Well apparently, in their minds, Will being able to overcome his childhood is much more effective then Will being gay- so.
Let me lay it out for you:
Surprise! You can be gay AND want to hold onto your childhood! And, there are already so many other characters that could have a lovely arc of learning to accept themselves and learning to be their true selves away from societies norms *cough* mike *cough* Lucas *cough* but of course, they want to make WILL the one who gets this arc because if Will was gay that means he has a better chance of getting with Mike! (This was under a Mileven video btw) so they want him to be canonically straight so there is no chance Mike and Will can be endgame!
Now second: 90% of the comments under this video are people saying they think heâs asexual.
1. You can be gay AND asexual
2. Asexuality is the feeling of not being sexually attracted to anyone. YOU CAN BE ROMANTICALLY ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE IF YOURE ASEXUAL.
3. Will is fourteen! And if weâre using the logic of âoh he hasnât wanted to kiss anyone so heâs asexual!â Then shouldnât Dustin be asexual too?-
4. WILL IS FOURTEEN! Just because he doesnât want to get down and dirty at that (very young age!) DOESNT mean that he doesnât like sexual attraction at all. Itâs kind of insane how people are seriously making these assumptions over a 14 year old child, some people like to wait, and thatâs fine!
5. If the people in the comments meant aromantic, there really isnât anything in the show that proves that he doesnât like anyone, period. I think partially itâs heteronormativity and people not wanting to see the fact that Will clearly has a crush on mike, or had one in the past. The script even went as far as saying âBut his eyes arenât on the cute girl, theyâre on - - Mike.â
Why do you think the script would put that in if there wasnât something there, unrequited or not? Personally, I think that a lot of people donât want to accept the fact that Will could have a crush on Mike as that would destruct their heteronormative bubble. They donât want the main boy in the show to be gay because it disrupts the balance in their life. And it makes the chances of mike and Will ending up together being strong.
6. Saying âyou have one gay character, thatâs enough representation!â Is BULL. SH!T. There will NEVER be enough representation in the media for the lgbtq+ community. Ever. Even when we keep trying, there will always be something. Whether the show being cancelled or the one gay character dying, representation in the media for minorities are slim, but ESPECIALLY for the lgbtq+ community.
We are all VERY proud of Maya and Robin. We love Robin, but that doesnât mean the Duffers just get to sit back and be like âoh, we already have one gay character, we donât need more.â Like, what? Thatâs not how this works. Representation doesnât just get to stop after the heterosexuals deem us to have âenough gay charactersâ or âif you add too many gay characters itâd get unrealisticâ no. Weâve (me being a bisexual) have went through YEARS AND YEARS of ZERO representation. ZERO. While the hets always got their happily ever after love story, we WAITED.
We love Robin, but that doesnât mean they can just halt Willâs arc since season one because you deem the representation to be enough.
This isnât apples and oranges. Will can be gay AND not want to grow up. It isnât always just black and white.
Maybe itâs the people who refuse to see the way Will looks at Mike, and just takes that as â2 bros looking at brosâ, but there is very clearly something under the surface there.
since season ONE they have built Will up to be gay. Since the first episode.
Put it this way. Joyce used the term âf*gâ in episode one. Why do you think they would use a slur like that If it werenât going to go somewhere. What was the point of using a slur to describe Will in season one, or to Troy and James literally tormenting the Party for Will being gay almost all of season one. What was the point of that if that wasnât going to go anywhere?
I can GUARANTEE that If Mike promised El that heâd go crazy together with HER instead of Will, the milevens would eat that up and call it âromantic!â However, because itâs just two boys, itâs totally platonic, right? Itâs totally just two bros being bros.
If Mike held elâs hand like that and said âwe wonât let him.â To el instead of Will, milevens would EAT THAT UP. Theyâd say that was the most romantic sh!t in the show.
If Mike told El that meeting her was the best thing heâd ever done, MILEVENS WOULD EAT THAT UP. Theyâd call it the most romantic thing of the century. Itâd be on ever fan accounts Instagram pages. Itâd be in all of the bios. But of course, because itâs two boys, it HAS to be platonic.
A lot of times milevens excuses for things are âwell mike said he loved her so itâs end gameâ
Stancy, anyone?
Or Mike said âyouâre the most important thing in the world to me.â
In the most DRY way possible. If Mike said that to Will in that way, EVEN I WOULDNT BELIEVE HE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH.
I mean the way Mike said that line clearly shows that el isnât the most important thing in the world to him. Thereâs something underlying there. Like I said, that line was DRY. There was no emotion behind it. He was just saying that to get El to shut up, to get El to forgive him, so they could move on.
If Mike had said âyouâre the most important thing in the world to meâ to WILL like that instead of El, I wouldnât have believed it either. And I bet that If that was the case the milevens would say âMike doesnât really love Will! That line was so dry!â But because itâs El and Mike, they say thatâs the cutest thing since sliced bread.
Again, I have zero issues with Milevens, itâs only the toxic ones like the comment above that get to me.
Will has been set up to be gay from DAY ONE. The duffers have studied film for YEARS. Do you seriously think theyâd let these all be coincidences? Do you seriously think that after writing season two NOBODY said, âhey, thatâs a little gay.â
One scene is fine. If we only had gotten crazy together, yeah, I donât think I would have thought it to be canon. But itâs the fact that they wrote in OVER 10 QUEER CODED ROMANTIC SCENES BETWEEN MIKE IN WILL, JUST IN SEASON TWO.
You canât make that up! That cannot be an accident!
Theyâve said over and over that everything they do, every song they play, every outfit the characters wear, is intentional. Itâs all there for a reason.
Finn and Noah had to read these scripts, rehearse them, and then spent hours filming them. Do you seriously think it wouldnât have cross their minds that âHey! Thatâs a little weird Mr Duffer.â
Thatâs mostly because Finn and Noah probably already know where the show is headed.
If your only source of Mileven evidence is that Millie has said that they should get married and that they kissed in the end, then, I have some news to break.
Obviously, if anything were to happen in season 4 with Mileven not being end game, Millie couldnât just say that. Finn couldnât just say that. Itâs their jobs to keep the fans intrigued and on their toes.
David knew he wasnât really dead but he still had to pretend in interview after interview that Hopper was indeed dead. And he played it off pretty well.
Millie knew El wasnât really dead after the season one finale yet she still had to play it off like El was.
So obviously, they canât just outright say âMileven isnât end game!â
I mean,,, Iâm sure theyâd get fired for it.
So, we really shouldnât pay attention to what the cast says in interviews, and we shouldnât take that as canon, either. Their job is to subvert our expectations for the show, and theyâre doing it well.
TL;DR:
Will can be gay and also have an arc where he doesnât want to grow up and where he can learn to be his authentic self. The interviews the ST cast do should not be taken as canon as their jobs as actors are to keep us on our toes and subvert our expectations. Byler has a lot of proof and has a large chance of being canon, and most milevens donât want to believe Will is gay because that means Will would have a larger chance of getting with Mike. The lgbtq+ community still need representation regardless of Robin and just because we got one lesbian does not mean the duffers can sit back and go back to their only heterosexual couples and ideas.
Logan (and the boys) get a dog! This is a cute, fluffy one for you.
Thank you to the wonderful people who beta'd this! You are lifesavers.
CW: Food talk
Rating: T
As usual, all credit for these boys goes to @lumosinlove. We love them dearly.
âSo, what do you want to do today?â Leo asked, placing the final dish back in the cupboard and wandering over to the breakfast bar where Logan was seated.Â
"I donât know!â Logan grumbled; his words muffled by a mouthful of pancakes and peanut butter â Leo had made him a stack in an attempt to appease his boyfriendâs grumpiness. "It's weird doing things without him now."Â
The trio had spent almost all their time together since Loganâs return from the All-Stars game. The shortest of the three was not impressed at the prospect of Finn spending the morning away from them.
Logan, having finished his breakfast, slid off the stool and twisted into Leoâs arms. âHmm, I know how we could entertain ourselves,â he smirked, his hands sliding under the soft material of Leoâs hoodie to the warm, pale skin beneath.Â
Logan tried to capture Leoâs lips, but the younger boy turned his head at the last moment. âLo, no. We promised.â Leo protested, taking his boyfriend's hand in his, halting it from travelling any further south.Â
It took all his resolve not to lick the trace of peanut butter that Logan had somehow managed to leave on his lips. He knew there was no coming back from that. Finn had made the two of them swear that they wouldnât have sex without him before he would accept his brotherâs invitation to brunch. Leo knew they needed to have a deeper conversation about the boundaries in their relationship and how their dynamic would work, but for now, a promise was a promise.
Logan huffed, but his hands stilled and he rested his head against Leoâs chest. " Six foot three of pure perfection and I'm supposed to exhibit self-control," he mumbled, mostly to himself, but the words made Leo smile. Â
Suddenly, Logan's grumbling stopped and he stepped back, a wide grin spread across his face. "Hey! How about we go to the shelter and look at the dogs?â This time, Leo couldnât stop the laughter from leaving his mouth, forever baffled at how quickly Logan's thoughts switched.Â
âOkay, okay â we can go to the shelter,â he agreed; nodding and holding his hands up in surrender. âBut just to look,â Leo added quickly.Â
Ever since theyâd watched a show following a rescue shelter, Logan had been begging to visit their local one. Finn, who had years of practice ignoring Logan's puppy eyes, was always the one to veto the idea. He knew that Logan would fall in love with all the dogs and theyâd probably come home with three new residents.Â
Logan didnât respond to Leo's acceptance verbally, merely nodding his head repeatedly before grabbing Leoâs hand and dragging him towards the door.Â
âTremzy, shoes,â Leo deadpanned as they passed the rack in the hallway. Logan sighed as looked down at his socked feet. His eyes flicked up at Leo as he briefly debated whether the shoes were really necessary. Leo took the delay as an opportunity to tuck a curl of Logan's hair back behind his ear; it had escaped the restraint of his snapback during all the excitement. Â
âJ'taime,â he spoke softly, using his thumb to wipe the remnants of breakfast from his boyfriendâs lips. To others, Loganâs energy could be too much, but Leo loved the almost childlike bursts of energy that he had. He was passionate and enthusiastic and Leo wouldnât have him any other way.
âNope! Now is not the time for you to be cute,â Logan frowned, swatting Leoâs hand away. He flicked his tongue over his lips, ensuring all the peanut butter had gone. He shoved his feet into his sneakers, bouncing on the balls of his feet a few times before heading out to the car. Leo rolled his eyes before joining him.
Logan had calmed a little by the time they arrived at the shelter, smiling as Leo killed the engine. âHey, Peanut,â he said, waiting for Leoâs eyes to meet his own, "I love you too,â he leaned over the centre console to kiss Leoâs tiny button nose that he loved so much.
 âNow whoâs being cute?" Leo drawled, opening the car door and allowing his boyfriend to lead the way to the entrance. Finding the receptionist, Logan eagerly explained. that they wanted to visit some of the dogs.Â
The young woman; named Maddie according to the tag pinned to her chest, looked up from her computer. Her eyes widened, seeming slightly taken aback by both the onslaught of words and the fact that two Gryffindor players stood before her.Â
Maddie quickly recovered, smiling up at the two men. âOh, no problem!â she reassured. âWe are down a few volunteers today and it would really help if you could spend some time with a couple of our new dogs. They are friendly, we just need to make sure they remain used to humans whilst theyâre waiting for their new homes.âÂ
âOui, yes, we can do that,â Logan responded quickly, taking a pen to fill out the form that Maddie had placed in front of him.
Leo plucked the pen from his hand. âYou go ahead, Iâll do this,â he told Logan with a smile. The rushed script would only be illegible if the brunette filled it out anyway.
Leo was just a couple of minutes behind, but by the time he pushed through the double doors that led to the kennels, Logan had all but disappeared.Â
Leo continued down the corridor, stopping to pet a dachshund who demanded his attention. He was near the end of the corridor when he did finally arrive at the kennel that Logan was in, nearly walking straight past.Â
Logan was curled up against a huge, long-haired dog. His mouth moved rapidly, but he was uncharacteristically quiet. Leo couldnât help but smile at the sight. He attempted to sneak a photo of the pair, but the sound of the shutter caused both of their heads to jerk up simultaneously.Â
Logan grinned when he realised that it was only Leo. âCorbett parle français!â he whisper-shouted, fingers raking through the dog's fur to comfort him.Â
âOnly you could find the French-speaking dog so quickly,â Leo chuckled, taking another photo as Logan rested his head against Corbett again continuing whatever conversation the two had started before Leoâs arrival.
âOur boyfriend is too much!â Leo captioned the photo, before sending it to Finn. His phone vibrated with the reply seconds later.
I swear to God. If I come home and that dog is in our living room...
Leo snorted. He didnât know Finn could type that fast. He was typing a retort when his phone buzzed again.
Fuck. Let him have the dog if he wants it.
Leo shook with laughter as the words âWorldâs sexiest Fishâ filled his screen. âYou are a sap,â Leo greeted, accepting the call.
On the floor, Logan gasped, âI can take him?â he questioned.
âHow did you gather that from what Leo said?â Finnâs voice boomed over the phone. Alexâs laughter could be he heard somewhere in the background.Â
This time, Alex gagged. âGross!â the older OâHara called.
"I am never leaving you two alone again,â Finn sighed, his tone somehow conveying equal parts affection and exasperation.
âLove you!â Leo manages to reply before Finn cuts off the call. He looks down at Logan and knows that Finn would adopt ten dogs if he got to keep looking at that smile. âIâll go and find Maddie â get whatever paperwork we need to get this one home."
ignoring the fact that they sound like a married couple arguing, mike and will are also bickering over whether or not el and mike are still together. it was written in the script, rehearsed, performed, and kept in the final cut that will OUTRIGHT SAYS âshe said she dumped your ass, that doesnât sound like a break.â and max yells âit wasnât!â :@;$:@/&$:&:??!?! they literally said theyâre not endgame. they arenât endgame.
i KNOW right! Based on the s4 movies I think things are reversed and itâs El who canât accept they are broken up. A lot of films said to inspire s4 have ex gfs refuse to accept the break up -one even hits on her gay ex-bf ( âbirdcageâ ). Similar scenario in âcluelessâ with girl hinting on gay guy who just wants to be friends. Max in s3 having to correct El that Mike is her â ex boyfriendâ and Will saying âthat doesnât sound like a breakâ. And Max agreeing âit wasnât!â is foreshadowing they never actually got back together. IT WASNâT A BREAK! But El may not accept this.
Itâs similar, to the random telemarketing joke where they had Mike say on the phone âEl, sorry not interested â and hang up . It was foreshadowing.
In the films the exes constantly call . Mike telling El âiâll call so often youâll have to turn your walkie offâ was also foreshadowing of what Mike will do to her in s4. Since ,he hung up on her in s3 when she called demanding to know where he was at 9:30 in the morning. In âswingersâ the guy name mike (whose friends call him âgayâ) hangs up on his ex gf who wants to get back together . He hangs up on her so he can talk to his new love interest (Will) . Specifically, Hangs up on his ex as she says  âI love-â. Then in âsplashâ he breaks up with his gf on the phone and says âdo I love you?well what about you?â To dodge the question (then yells at a family member ease dropping on the other line -Karen). And they break up on the phone. And he tells a friend later he never loved her.Â
2 movies the ex says theyâll get back together and their new relationships are âjust phasesâ etc ( waynes world,  high fidelity, dumb and dumber). Saying theyâre still together when they arenât  (wayneâs world). Loads of movies had the crazy ex sabotage new relationships, call constantly, stalk, and flirt despite the exes discomfort and repeatedly saying itâs over (despite the ex not loving them and just be possessive and not wanting them with other people).
The exes are cray in the films (el stalking and never apologizing for spying. And mileven dancing to the song âevery breath you takeâ a song about a stalker ex who doesnât take no for an answer -after their ex hooks up with their friend, wasnât a coincidence). Along with El watching âdays of our livesâ where she mimicked erica who was in a relationship with Mike roy. And it ended messy with one of them sabotaging their new relationship, stalking them, and claiming the stalking victim still loved them. (Although, they eventually accepted that wasnât true). Â
El stalked Mike in s2 (all that stuff milevens found romantic- El watching him without him knowing. Mike said he was not ok with it in s3). And in s3 (like the song) she stalks him after their breakup, and when he said not to do that she just says âi make my own rulesâ. I think s4 shows just how âun-cuteâ this behavior can get.
 Iâve already talked about that awkward kiss scene to death. But i think it indicates Mike assumes theyâre broken up and el assumes theyâre back together.Â
FIrst he LIED AGAIN (the cause of the breakup)- and pretended he didnât confess to her at the end of s3. And never said â I love youâ back! He even tries to take the words back and  says about the prior love confession â âOh! Oh, yeah that.Man, that was so long ago. UmâŠâ  and starts to scratch his head and says everything he said at the cabin was âin the heat of the moment stuff and we were arguingâŠâ
They even frame the scene right before the kiss strangely, making El look larger and imposing, as she approaches. Mike feels cornered (you the viewer subconsciously are supposed to feel claustraphobic/trapped/cornered/stuck along with Mike).
We see him furrow his brows (uncomfortable and confused ) when El initiates the romantic moment, saying âI love you too.â
 And cue most awkward kiss in history- where he keeps his eyes open the whole time and doesnât kiss back. (In Willâs room, mike in front of an open closet, as el holds Willâs s1 bear.)
 During the kiss, the song âthe first i love you âplayed. The only other time they played that song in s3, was when Robin rejects Steveâs romantic confession and she comes out as gay . Interesting choice for that awkward mileven kiss/confession shown later where El says she loves Mike (and mike keeps his eyes open, doesnât kiss back or return the âI love youâ). Itâs foreshadowing of Mike rejecting El (in the future) cause heâs gay.
We even see Elâs reaction first (happy, smiling and giddy). Assuming theyâre back together. But then we blur the screen to see Mikeâs opposing expression. He looks confused, bewildered and even furrows his brows again.
Then we see El initiating all the romantic stuff outside.El seems to be the one trying to make it romantic- like Mike hugging el and lucas with one arm identically (hand on their upper back), but El caresses his chest.
And as Mike stops the hug El shoves his head into hers (it actually looked like it hurt honestly XD)
the byler centric ending with the Hopper monologue reinforces this theme. Mike while looking at both cars driving away was thinking of Will . They show this by having Mike be sad as Will drives away (alone) twice as Mike sadly watches him leave- this was done to show that heâs actually upset the 2 later times where Will and El leave at the same time -because of Will. I showed it in one of my vids here, at 23:11
When we first see Mike during the Hopper monologue , it continues to pan to only Mike and Will (not El) cause what he says is mostly about them. âIâve been feeling distant from you. Like youâre pulling away from me or somethingâ (Will does this both figuratively/literally). I miss playing board games every night (d &d)â. Then Mike looks back at the Byers house (he just lingers there and looks back as his friends leave without him) like how Will turned to watch Mike leave and hold hands with El (as the crew go up the hill without Will).  âBut I know youâre getting older, growing, changing. And I guess, if Iâm being really honest, thatâs what scares me. I donât want things to change.â
It pans to both of them on âi donât want things to changeâ cause thatâs how they both feel. Mike , âdoesnât want things things to changeâ. He doesnât want their friendship to change as they âget olderâ because heâd have to and acknowledge his feelings for Will are romantic and if heâs âbeing honestâ that âscaresâ him (especially in rural 80s conservative-Indiana at the height of the aids epidemic). Why we see Mike trying to act like a adult while dating El, and Will trying to act like a kid- theyâre both trying to escape growing up to be gay in different ways. Will reverting to childhood activities and saying heâll ânever fall in loveâ (after his double date with lumax). And Mike trying to act like âold peopleâ saying âweâre not kids anymore... what did you expect that weâd never get girlfriends?â Cause he equates straight romance with being an adult and his feelings for Will as something he has to grow out of . Which he learns in the very end isnât possible.
Right after that scene it switches from Will crying, Â to Mike entering his house. His face is visibly red from crying and he looks shocked (almost as if he realized something) before he hugs his mom- to mirror the time he thought Will died in s1.Â
And the dialogue in this scene says âSo I think maybe thatâs why I came in here, to try and maybe stop that change. To turn back the clock. To make things go back to how they were.â He goes back to his mother for comfort, like he did the 1st time he lost Will. But also to reverse back time, to s1, before he realized his feelings for Will are romantic. Â When things were simple. I think the last episode is when Mike truly realizes heâs been in love with Will this entire time and he canât fix it and transfer his feelings for Will on to el (something heâs been trying to do all of s3). El said he loved him and he felt nothing-and he was heartbroken over Will leaving (not El). Which is why he just seems almost shocked/numb as heâs processing this fact. This whole scene only showed Mike and Will transitions- el was never there, cause Mike wasnât upset over her.
In the last ep (in s3) Mike mirrors the scene in s1, hugging his mom, since he feels like heâs losing Will all over again. In s1 the romantic/queer coded lyric from the song âWe can be heroesâ plays as he hugs his mom âAnd we kiss as though nothing could fall. And the shame.â. And during the s3 move (âwe can be heroesâ) plays again!  And David Bowie wrote this song and Jonathan even said to Will in his âbeing a freak is the best speechâ âwho would you rather be friends with David bowie (a queer singer) or Kenny Roggers?â
Itâs why finn wolfhard after s3 liked this byler pic. cause s3 was all about Will and Mike denying their feelings for each other.
Not to mention,After s1 Finn quoted the Duffers saying Mike thought of El as a âpuppyâ (dart) or âetâ , and then said Mileven was a  âfirst summer love thingâ- foreshadowing milevenâs downfall during the Summer (aka s3). He repeats this âfirst summer loveâ phrase 2x.  Millie when he mentioned what the duffers said rightfully thought the puppy thing was âawfulâ, but Finn was clearly told mileven doesnât last -very early on- and most likely the Duffers told him âitâs like a first summer love thingâ.Summer loveâ by definition fails-as it only lasts during the summer.
(Inspired by the fantastic work of @dalekofchaos)Â
âFix itâ fics are a thing, yeah? Well, hereâs my shot at writing one for the ninth Star Wars film. Contrary to popular opinions, Iâm only going to change one or two things about the two movies beforehand, because I unironically loved both of them. But I can admit that there were mistakes, and TLJ tied up most of the loose ends, leaving it difficult to follow-up with a sequel. So, regarding Episodes eight and nine, hereâs what changes.Â
I have exactly one change for TFA. That random ass stormtrooper who called out Finn as a traitor and inexplicably had a melee weapon that could fight lightsabers? Yeah, just make that Phasma and have done with it. I donât understand why it wasnât her in the first place. Also, Finn being able to wield a lightsaber isnât âevidenceâ that heâs force-sensitive if you ask me. The films never confirm that non-force sensitives canât use them. This will be important later.
Moving on to TLJ...replace that stupid milk scene with the deleted scene of Luke reacting to the news of Hanâs death. I mean, come on, thatâs a given. Another given, Luke uses his green lightsaber in the illusionary duel against Kylo Ren. Thatâs just common sense.Â
After Kylo Ren asserts himself and force-chokes General Hux, and the two of them depart...the camera pans in on the pieces of Snokeâs corpse, onto his face...and his eyes suddenly open. Yes, this will be important later. Somehow, Snoke survived.
I genuinely liked Vice-Admiral Holdo, but they kind of fumbled her role in the story. She was never given a reason for why she did not share her plans with the rest of the Resistance. The most popular theory being that she assumed a mole was on board, but this was never stated in the movie. In my opinion, Poe had every reason to call for mutiny based on what he knew, so the whole message/character arc of him learning to be a leader rather than a hero didnât quite stick the landing. So how will I fix it? Simple, replace Holdo with Leia. First things first, we donât get the superman-flying, which is just an objective improvement. We also are more inclined to trust Leia over Poe, because of the legacy the character has. Weâre also going with the plot-threat there is indeed a mole. Whatâs more, Leia is given the sendoff she deserves with the light-speed kamikaze scene. Sure, she may be force-sensitive, but itâs clear that she chose a different path in her life and I think she should go out as a warrior, not a Jedi, because thatâs what she was. General Leia. Plus, you avoid the awkward interactions with CGI Leia from the canon episode 9.Â
I think we can all agree that Finn deserved better, and he absolutely deserved to have the scene that was deleted, where he called out Phasma in front of her soldiers, telling them what happened in TFA, when Phasma caved so easily. This is the beginning of the Stormtrooper rebellion, and Finn is responsible for igniting the spark. He can definitely duel with Phasma, but heâs not going to win for one simple reason. The mole suddenly reveals herself and puts a blaster to his head.Â
Spoiler alert, the mole is Rose. The reason why could vary - perhaps she blames the resistance for the death of her sister. Perhaps the First Order captured her sister alive and is threatening her. Either way, Roseâs efforts help turn the tide and allow her and Phasma to escape. The code-breaker can still be part of the movie, but he doesnât really matter. The Canto Bight sequence is unchanged, because I honestly donât dislike it at all.Â
So who saves Finn from his attempt to follow General Leiaâs example, and give his life for the cause that he now truly cares about? Poe does. This moment already causes their character arcs to intersect, with Poe being in the position Leia was in at the start of Last Jedi, Finn being in Poeâs position. Poe crashes their ships to save Finn, and because Iâm #Stormpilot trash, and we deserved an onscreen LGBT relationship between leads, Poe does indeed kiss Finn. However, donât worry about Rose. I have plans for her.Â
Thatâs about all that changes. But in the grand scene of things, most of these arenât really issues with the film itself. But theyâre necessary to set up for my idea for a Rise of Skywalker re-write. Speaking of...
The Rise of Skywalker - letâs begin with the name.Â
I hate this name and everything it represents. Iâve heard rumors of an alternate script where Ben Solo is not redeemed, called âDuel of Fates.â Iâm not a fan of Ben not being redeemed, but I like the concept of that film name. So Iâm thinking this movie will be called something like âOne Last Boutâ or âOne Last Stand.â Something simple but effective, with the air of finality. I truly doubt Episode 9 is the end of Star Wars forever, but if we think of it as a conclusion to the first two trilogies, this can work.Â
The film opens with the funeral of General Leia. With Rey, Finn, and Poe (who are holding hands for sure) all standing together with Chewie, who is in shambles as we can expect. Lando is also present and he gets re-introduced. Lukeâs force spirit appears and looks on, but does not reveal himself to everyone else. Likewise, pan the camera over, and we see Kylo Ren observing the service as well, out of sight. Luke makes telepathic contact with Rey, to warn her of danger, at which point both Rey and Ben double over in pain, the sound design giving us an uncomfortable high pitched screech, or something similar. Thereâs a disturbance in the Force. Something is returning. Something terrible. Ben is spotted, and the main trio open fire with blasters, but Ben escapes. Lando stops Rey from pursuing him, suggesting that it would dishonor Leiaâs memory to do it right then and there.Â
Ben, on his ship, struggles with horrible pain, a serious headache. Until at last, he is telepathically contacted by a voice we do not hear. But it terrifies him, and he takes off in his ship in pursuit of it.Â
A scene similar to the one where the Resistance analyzes Palpatineâs message, but there is no message and there is empathically no Palpatine in this movie, though I wonât get into why that was a horrible idea right now. Never mind, Rey is simply recounting to Finn, Poe, Chewie, and Lando that thereâs a disturbance in the Force. Lukeâs spirit appears and warns them that a great evil that long predates their time, is returning. He disappears, explaining that he needs to await Leia as she âcrosses overâ and becomes one with The Force. This is the last we see of Luke in the film, because his story is over. The torch has been passed.
Ben/Kylo Ren arrives at what we saw as Exegol. I donât mind this planet being Exegol, it was about the only new location I actually remembered from the canon film. He confronts the voice in his head, proclaiming that he will kill any threat to The First Order and itâs Supreme Leader. A familiar voice in the dark chuckles. âYou have yet to finish off your predecessor. By what right do you claim his job?â Snoke leans forward, and reveals himself. A similar scene to TROS plays out but with no mention of Rey. Despite Benâs shock, Snoke is amused. âYou are not the first apprentice to try and take my life. You probably wonât be the last. I have fashioned many into tools for the Dark Side, even the Emperor himself learned at my feet. Did you think you were special? So, yes. Snoke is the final Big Bad like he should have been (Andy Serkis was robbed) and he really is Darth Plagueis because he was totally supposed to be. By means of mental torture, Snoke reassumes control of Ben and tells him to gather the Knights of Ren âWherever youâve hidden themâ and prepare to crush the rebellion once and for all.Â
Instead of visiting a random planet for a lead, Lando and Chewie lead the gang back to Endor. Or it could also be Kashyyyk, I suppose. Like before, Lando and Luke were there. They spent years documenting the history of the Jedi and the Sith. This could be contained in âHolocronsâ I realize they have meaning behind them in the lore, but I donât know much, so just consider the âHolocronâ to be a storage unit for information. Arriving there, we still have the scene of a local asking for Reyâs family name, but this time sheâs going to stay no one like she should have. While researching, Finn expresses the theory, or more like the hope, that he might be Force-Sensitive. Rey tells him that everyone is, to an extent, but Finn clarifies that he means it the same way that Rey is. âYâknow, the way you can push stuff around and sense peopleâs feelings. Make stuff float.â An echo back to Reyâs line from TLJ. What Iâm going for here is that Finn is not force-sensitive in the traditional way. His arc in this movie is going to be about accepting that, and realizing that he doesnât need that to be a âhero.â He already is one, with everything heâs done. But as of right now, his insistence that he could be leads to bickering between him and Rey.
Things only get worse as Rey uncovers more about the Jedi. Sees some of the ways in which they were not the white knights that history remembers them as. Luke was right, they played no small part in creating Darth Vader. Whatâs more, she discovers the âRule of Twoâ which has been hinted in the films but never discussed outright. The idea that there are only ever two people wielding the Dark Side, a master and an apprentice. And that the apprentice invariably kills the master to succeed them. A tradition dating back for millennia. The Sith, the practitioners of the Dark Side, always betray each other. Sheâs disheartened, thinking of Ben killing Snoke and how he offered her his hand. What it all would have led to in the end.Â
They finally discover what could be the answer - the âgreat evilâ that is returning. A Sith lord called Darth Plaguis, who, when they bring up the hologram of him, strongly resembles Snoke. They put two and two together, reading more about Plagueisâ file. How he vanished without a trace. How he was said to have performed an unspeakable ritual in the Dark Side to allow him to control life and death itself. He could revive those he loved from death, and could not truly he killed, having become an anomaly in the Force. Only another anomaly of equal power would be able to stop him.Â
An ambush occurs, with assassins in masks attacking the heroes. They wield melee weapons that are not lightsabers, and they force the group to split up due to simply being outnumbered. The gang realizes that, apart from being here to kill them, they probably want that Holocron, but the Resistance must be the ones to get it. We get a similar scene to the canon film, with Chewie heading to the Millennium Falcon with the Holocron and trying to take off, to blast the assassins from the sky...but then the assassins reveal their ace card. They have force power. And they start to pull the Falcon back down. Rey struggles against them, but sheâs outnumbered, still upset from everything that sheïżœïżœs learned, and easily angered when Finn rushes in to try and help, despite not being able to. Rey succumbs to her anger and unleashes Dark-Side lightning. Just like in the canon film. The differences? Number one, this doesnât foreshadow any lineage for her...but importantly Chewie is actually dead, not just a fake-out. Heâs dead, and the Falcon and Holocron are destroyed with him. Seriously, the emotional weight of that scene is completely drained by not having Chewie actually die there. The potential is lost, and Iâm going to prove it.Â
Rey is appropriately mortified, shocked, and despondent. The assassins are too - they canât believe their enemy killed one of their own just to win. Everyone is shocked, but Poe is the quickest to regain his head, dashing in and blasting at the assassins to help cover the heroes while they escape, Finn half-dragging a stunned Rey. So, everyone feels awkward about what just happened and though they believe Rey that it was an accident, it still happened and both Finn and Poe feel distant from her. Lando, understandably, is a lot less patient than them. He knew Chewie for years. His old feelings about losing Han might resurface, and he could say something about how Rey is no better than Kylo Ren, before catching himself and apologizing. At this point, Lando also departs. He needs to get back to the Resistance, because he has been named the Acting General, since Leiaâs death.Â
Meanwhile, Poe deduces that the assassins were the mythical âKnights of Renâ rumored to be the Supreme Leaderâs private army. Rey is shaken from her stupor at this news - it doesnât make sense, it completely violates the âRule of Two.â Could Ben still be saved? Or is it too late for him? Is it too late for her, Rey, even? Cue Ben Solo/Kylo Ren opening up the force-bond once again. A similar conversation about how theyâre both uncertain of their place in the galaxy, and a confirmation that Snoke is back, and is really Plagueis. Ben reveals that heâs been ordered to kill Rey, and he apologies - he truly doesnât want to do this, but Snoke once again has control of him, and has proven that killing him wonât matter. Rey senses terrible pain, and gets a taste of what Ben has been put through - think, like, the Cruciatus Curse. Whatever âpainâ move Kylo Ren used on Poe in TFA. He learned it from Snoke, of course. Ben closes the force-bond, telling Rey to run. Run as far and as fast as she can, because heâs no longer able to take it easy on her.
Finn and Poe overhear the conversation, or at least Reyâs side of it. They hear enough to deduce who sheâs talking to, and this further plants the seeds of doubt in their heads. As we see in Last Jedi, Rey doesnât really tell people about the force-bond, so we can assume she never told her friends. The family is fracturing more and more. Rey is slipping closer and closer to the Dark Side. And all without needing to give her a bloodline. See? I told you Chewbaccaâs death had potential.Â
They make a pit stop on Coruscant, because thereâs no reason it couldnât have been Coruscant, hiding from First Order ships. Here is where the character of Zorii originally showed up. As compelling as the performance was, sheâs not going to show up here. Letâs be honest, she was only there to no-homo Finn and Poe, as well as give Poe a backstory that is apparently racist? (Iâm not knowledgeable enough about this topic to comment, so letâs just throw out the whole idea.)Â Instead, the team is confronted by none other than Rose, the mole from TLJ. She reveals that more and more stormtroopers have been rebelling since Finn gave his speech. Thereâs only one faction that she is confident will never turn on the First Order - the Knights of Ren, who âseem to worship the Supreme Leader like a damn god...though, I guess he isnât the Supreme Leader anymore, is he?â News is spreading of Snokeâs return, and Rose has the heroes cornered with a band of loyalist stormtroopers.Â
Finn pleads with Rose, and the other Stormtroopers, to reconsider. Here is where we outline Roseâs character. She despises everything about war. Sheâs intentionally attacking both sides, seeking to see both the Resistance and The First Order collapse. She has a personal vendetta against Poe and actively tries to kill him, for his role in the battle that killed her sister. Poe likewise despises Rose for having betrayed Finn. Whether Roseâs actions are tactical doesnât really matter - sheâs responding from a place of emotion, not logic. Poe, showing his growth, apologies to Rose and talks her down. Explains the situation, how dire the circumstances are. Rey chimes in and identifies with Rose, having made plenty of mistakes of her own. Thereâs a moment of solidarity between the team once again. A moment, anyway. Poe makes peace with Rose, and she lets the heroes go. However, her stormtroopers turn on her, and attack everyone. The gang helps Rose escape with them, and after the escape, they realize that those stormtroopers were in fact the Knights of Ren, spying for Kylo Ren, which means Snoke as well.Â
Rey, tortured by nightmares about Snoke, leaves in the middle of the night. Finn is awake, and tries to stop her, which leads to a major fight. Finn is having trouble trusting Rey, and it shows. Rey is likewise fed up with Finn trying to insert himself into the story, as it were. However, having been told by Rose the impact that he had on the galaxy, Finn no longer wishes to be a Jedi. He then redirects the question to Rey - does she want to be a Jedi? Like Luke? Honest answer - she doesnât know. The Jedi of old would never have accepted her. Sheâd have been expelled and become another Darth Vader. Rey is impulsive, confrontational, she has a short temper. She gives in to the Dark Side too easily, and now itâs gotten someone killed. She feels diseased. Though Finn tries to dissuade such talk, it comes out that he and Poe overheard her conversation with Kylo Ren. Both sides are angry here, because Rey kept this secret, and because her friends spied on her. She cries out in anger, causing several nearby lights to blow out. Rey storms away, seeking to be alone.
This fight scene takes the place of the ESB rip-off with an evil Rey. That just wasnât necessary. Instead, Rey leaves to confront Snoke, kill him once and for all, and rescue Ben if she can. After that, she isnât sure what sheâll do. It is at this point that she is captured by the Knights of Ren. However, they donât kill her, as instructed. They remove their masks - humanizing them as just being people. They reveal that they were the Jedi who followed Ben after he left Luke. When Starkiller Base was finished, Ben told them to go and evacuate their families from their home planets, just in case. The Knights stayed away for a long time, per Benâs orders, but returned when he bid them too. They love him, seem to look up to him, and they can tell that he loves Rey. That heâs not his own man anymore. And that his best interests donât align with Snokeâs. They know Snoke has to die, but also realize they arenât powerful enough to stop him. The only one they can think of who might be - is Rey. They beg for her help, and she agrees.
The movie now offers a montage of Stormtroopers abandoning Phasma and Hux, and turning themselves in to the Resistance, explaining that they want to fight for the light. Meanwhile, Finn talks to Rose and Poe, and they all agree that they canât just leave Rey, they have to go after her. They regret not trusting her, and conclude that even if she is tempted by the Dark Side, even if she falls...sheâs still their friend. They donât believe that sheâs a spy - Rose offers useful tip in this sense. Observing that Rey offers none of the âtells.â Finally, we come to Rey training with the Knights of Ren. The transformation of her staff into a lightsaber pike. And itâs gold, baby. Itâs gold. (Oh, since I forgot to mention this, Anakinâs lightsaber never gets repaired. Rey has been using a blaster up to this point.)
Bring us back to Snoke, torturing Ben once again as he can sense the betrayal of the Knights. Ben doesnât realize that theyâre still loyal to him, he thinks they just abandoned him, and his spirit is broken even further. Snoke talks more about his past, and here we can get a philosophical discussion. Perhaps Snoke discovered the midichlorians during his research, and exploited them for more power. He could analyze the Force as being, not a difference between light and darkness, but a shallow body of water that only gets deeper the further you venture. Snoke boasts that he was the first to risk âdrowningâ himself in itâs depths. Meanwhile, Ben hallucinates seeing Han, encouraging him to get up and fight back. We can also have Leiaâs voice here, if we want. Ben fights back in a scene that echoes TFA, the way Rey resisted his own control. âYou are no Master, Plagueis. Not of anyone or anything. You act so powerful, but your thoughts betray you. Youâre afraid you will never get it right. Your desperation grows with every failure. But Today is not the day you finally succeed.â snaps free of Snokeâs control and when Snoke attempts to dominate him with Force Lightning, Ben goes full Prince Zuko and redirects it, Yoda style. With that, he escapes, now on his own.Â
Finn, Poe, and Rose show up to fight the Knights of Ren. Assuming Rey to be their prisoner. Rey, faced with her ultimate conflict, the symbol of her uncertainty, a literal metaphor between the two sides of her being at war...her loyalty to Ben, and her loyalty to her friends...her desire to be good, but her tendency toward darkness...finally completes her character arc and solves her identity issues. She creates a barrier between both sides, knocking them all down. She explains herself, telling her friends that the Knights want to stop Snoke. That she has joined them freely, for this reason. She apologizes for how distant sheâs been. Admits that while she would never support the First Order, she does care for Ben Solo, despite all heâs done. This leads to Rey making up with her friends, and making peace with the Knights, who were already kind-of friends with Rose, once upon a time. This can lead into a bigger discussion about The Force, the concepts of good and evil as a whole. While Finn and Poe contact Lando, to tell him where Snoke is hiding, Rey reaches out to Ben through the force-bond.Â
Meanwhile, Ben has returned to the planet where Lukeâs old school of Jedi was. He visits the smoldering remains, and unearths Lukeâs green lightsaber. He struggles, still feeling that call to the light, and now that heâs alone and able to meditate, he attempts to do what Snoke did, and âdrownâ himself in the Force, in the hope of stopping him. He doesnât drown. Instead, he meets a spirit who he had unconsciously blocked out a long time ago. Anakin Skywalker, portrayed by Hayden âThe lines were terrible but his acting was actually pretty goodâ Christensen.  The call to the light that Ben had always resisted had come from Anakin. These two finally talk, and Anakin urges Ben to choose the right side. They find solidarity in understanding that they were both drawn to the Dark Side, and both felt that this meant they âhadâ to be evil. Anakin doesnât dissuade Ben from the Dark Side, but advises him to do what is right for the galaxy, defeating Snoke. Ben is helpless, he doesnât know how. But Anakin tells him that an anomaly of equal power to Snoke could be enough to kill him forever. Itâs definitely worth a try. Anakin fades, promising Ben that the answer is closer than he thinks. He can sense it right now...
After Anakin fades, Rey appears. She has succeeded in contacting Ben, and they catch up. Ben learning that The Knights still care about him, and that Rey has joined them. Rey expresses that Ben was right - itâs time to leave the Jedi and the Sith behind. To start something new. They can discuss the Force in greater detail, how being Dark doesnât always mean one is evil, but the teachings of the Jedi suggest that it is a binary system. They express affection for each other. With everyone around Rey seeing her talk to someone invisible, Rey reaches out her hand...and Ben takes it. Suddenly appearing in the ship with everyone else.Â
Rey and The Knights take turns embracing him, and he exchanges awkward nods with the others. With the help of the Knights, the group comes to the conclusion that Rey and Ben are some kind of Dyad in the Force, irrevocably connected. The two that are one. Such a thing has not been seen in millennia. Itâs almost like a glitch in the universe. But this anomaly could be what it takes to stop Snoke for good.Â
The main team makes their way back to Exegol as we see Lando giving a speech to the Resistance, now much stronger with the added former-Stormtroopers. As much as I love Jannah, sheâs just as unnecessary as Zorii. That screen time could have and should have gone to Rose as she re-establishes herself back into the squad, same as Ben. Everyone arrives at Exegol at the same time, and Resistance soldiers move to open fire on Rose and Ben, understandably so, but here come Poe and Finn to talk them down and explain the situation. No one is happy about it, particularly having Ben Solo around, but Lando, with much consternation, accepts the situation and tells the Resistance not to fire on their new allies. However, he also instructs Finn to kill Ben if he steps out of line. We can get a callback when Finn gives the âIâm watching youâ look to Ben, and have a line like âDonât be a traitor.â Or something.Â
Final battle time. Another montage. Finn leading the former storm-troopers in the battle against the last of Snokeâs loyalists, led by Phasma. Together with Rose, Finn defeats them and Phasma is left on her knees. She pleads for mercy, and Rose is prepared to kill her, but Finn intervenes. They take her prisoner instead, because killing people who are already defeated and defenseless is the âStormtrooperâ way.Â
Rey, Ben, and the Knights are helping out with their Melee weapons. The Knights are also using the Force, because not using it offensively was a Jedi message, and they didnât always follow it anyway. Though heâs definitively good now, Ben is still wearing his Kylo Ren armor, and wielding the cross-guard saber. I mean, imagine if he showed up to a warzone in day clothes with a blaster, just because his previous weapons were âevil?â How stupid would that be, right? However, at one point the cross-guard saber is destroyed in the right, and left empty-handed, Ben pulls out Lukeâs lightsaber, stares at it...and then ignites it to rejoin the fray.
 We likewise get a battle of wits and strategy between Poe and Hux, as Poe commands a legion to take out the forces guarding Snokeâs throne room. In the end, Poeâs armada is saved by another that Lando commands. Hux manages to fatally shoot Lando, but Poe quickly repays him in kind. While everyone crowds around Lando, Hux dies alone, symbolizing the difference between the two causes. Lando expresses pride in how far Poe has come, tells him that Leia would be proud too, and with his dying words, he addresses Poe as âGeneral Dameron.â Itâs a truly emotional moment and afterward, Poe simply turns to the loyalist stormtroopers, carrying the poise and energy of a powerful leader. He tells them to drop their weapons. To surrender now, and they wonât be harmed. Itâs badass. And the loyalists do as instructed.Â
The path is clear for Rey and Ben to rush in to the Throne Room and kill Snoke, with the Resistance following them as backup. Only Snoke is nowhere to be seen. All of a sudden, we hear that high-pitched screech again. Rey and Ben collapse in terrible pain, hearing Snokeâs voice. His physical body no longer matters or plays by the same rules. He has essentially taken the practice of returning as a force-spirit and perverted it to become Dark. We now get Snokeâs final backstory, and the answer to why heâs able to do this. Snoke himself was part of a Dyad, centuries ago. Though exceptionally rare, Rey and Benâs bond is not unique. However, Snoke murdered his counterpart for his own selfish reasons. A total violation of nature. This is what splintered him and turned him into the unnatural being that he is now. Rey and Ben vanish, to the alarm of Finn and Poe, as they disappear into the Force.Â
The three of them - Rey, Ben, and Snoke, all appear to be in some kind of void. Snoke recounts having sensed the awakening of another Dyad (âThe Force Awakensâ) and that this is what prompted him to return to physical form in the first place. He reveals his final plan. Rey and Ben must now fight to the death - the winner becoming as powerful Snoke himself. He promises that the winner can rule beside him. This is probably a lie, and both of his opponents refuse. But Snoke also warns that without achieving that kind of power, theyâll be hopeless to stop him. He dual wields red lightsabers in the subsequent duel. Notice how Rey and Ben are using sabers of gold and green - the opposite of red and blue, which have traditionally symbolized the Jedi and the Sith conflict. Snoke tells them that they have no future. They cannot become Jedi, not with the crimes theyâve committed. If they become Sith, well...he cites the âRule of Twoâ insisting that Rey and Ben cannot coexist because one will inevitably slay the other. Rey and Ben respond that they are neither, that they simply fight for what they believe in. That they are...knights of Ren.Â
Together, they strike back, plunging their sabers through Snokeâs chest. He vanishes, and the void world vanishes. Rey and Ben reappear in the throne room, and Snoke is there too, staggering to his feet. The Resistance takes aim at him, but he pays them no mind. He warns the two heroes that there is no telling what will happen if they choose this path, that the Galaxy needs structure when dealing with an entity as vague and infinite as The Force. Rey responds simply that âThe Force is not some stranger or threat. It is not a vice for power. The Force...is us. All of us. The good and the bad, the light and the dark. So long as we stand together, you will never influence The Force again. You will never control us. You will never return again.â With a roar of defeat, Snokeâs body turns to dust, and a shadowy mass is left in itâs place. Finn and Poe fire at at it, to no avail, but Rey and Ben join hands, and as the shadowy mass surges toward them, The Dyad employs itâs full potential, causing Snokeâs bastardized force-spirit to vanish. Not sure how this would be filmed without looking silly, but I swear, itâs compelling.Â
The battle is over. Everyone celebrates. When Finn and Poe kiss, itâs earned, not some nameless background characters. The team returns to the Resistance base. Poe has been unanimously voted to be the new General, which is the closest thing they have to an elected leader right now, so he is in charge of the trials for the loyalists, and the Knights of Ren. The people who committed treason or other crimes. But we only see three of these trials. Ben Solo, Rose Tico...and Rey. After all, she did kill Chewie, right? She conspired with the Knights, too. Rey is pardoned almost immediately, Rose not long after, but Ben Solo...after much consideration, Poe charges the Knights of Ren to a path of atonement. To go around, helping fix the Galaxy. Community service.Â
Ben and the Knights prepare to leave on their trip, and Rey and Ben say goodbye. How ship-teasy this is, if thereâs a final kiss...eh, interpret how you like. Iâm a Reylo fan personally, but I know a lot of people arenât. Ben promises to see Rey again, and they both acknowledge that thanks to the Dyad, they wonât have to go without seeing each other, not really. Likewise, Rey and Finn and Poe and Rose will be helping to fix up the galaxy, so itâs certainly not goodbye.Â
I lied, Lukeâs force-spirit appears one more time, this time with Leia, though she doesnât speak much for obvious reasons. Luke is proud of her, and says something to the effect of âNot bad for a scavenger girl with no family from Jakku of all places. Well done, Rey from nowhere.â Rey looks around at everyone - at Finn, Poe, Rose. At Ben and the Knights. At C3PO, R2D2 and BB8 (Who were definitely involved the whole time I just didnât have much to say about them) she looks back at Luke and replies that she does have a family. She and her friends go to wave goodbye as Benâs ship takes off, flying into the sunset, and....ENDING CREDITS!
Let me know what yâall think! Hopefully this doesnât throw out quite as much from Last Jedi, and does the characters justice!Â