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laufire · 1 year
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STACKEDIARIES | january 27th | “nostalgia’s a bitch”
Caroline & Liz + Bonnie & Grams
[Caption: gifs from The Vampire Diaries. They show scenes from Caroline and Bonnie seeing versions of their loved ones (and maternal figures) when they enter Damon’s head. On the left Caroline is shocked when she sees her mother in the Grill, sitting in her sheriff’s uniform and looking over files at a table by the window. She slowly stands up, saying that someone else is looking at the same case they are, and unable to take her eyes off of Liz, says “I forgot how pretty she was.”, marvelled. On the right, Bonnie is walking towards her grandmother’s doorstep, running the last few steps, not able to wait. She knocks and her grandmother opens the door and greets her, calling her “sweetie”. Bonnie, overwhelmed, hugs her tight, closing her eyes. When they pull back Bonnie looks her up and down, smiling, and stammers that she didn’t know if Sheila would be there, and impressed, says Damon even got her sweater right.]
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which season Stefan do you think had the best writing when it comes to solely his character and what's your favourite Stefan & Defan scene?
Good questions!
Question 1:
Stefan had the best writing in Season 3 because the narrative explored Stefan’s character in depth, which had been hinted at in previous seasons but never fully examined. Season 3 explored The Ripper, Stefan’s blood addiction, Stefan’s past, Stefan’s friendship with Klaus, Stefan’s guilt, anger, and shame. In other words, Stefan was finally written like a protagonist, rather than just the third point in a love triangle. Consequently, Stefan’s vulnerability, strength, villainy, and heroism were given the narrative focus they deserved.
And just for the record, my favorite TVD episode is The End of the Affair, the 1920s flashback episode that revealed Stefan’s friendship with Klaus. I love that episode. The writing, characterization, and themes were done so well. It’s a high point for me and I always wanted more 1920s flashbacks.
Question 2:
I have two favorite Defan scenes:  
The first is when Stefan apologized to Damon for turning him into a vampire in episode 2x08 (Rose).
Stefan: Hey.
Damon: What?
Stefan: I’m sorry.
Damon: About what?
Stefan: For being the guy who made you turn 145 years ago.
Damon: Enough Stef, it’s late. Don’t need to rehash that.
Stefan: You know what? I’ve never said it out loud. I guess I just need to say it and you need to hear it. I’m sorry. What I did was selfish. I didn’t want to be alone. I guess I just needed my brother.
The second is Damon forgiving Stefan season 8x10 (Nostalgia’s a Bitch).
Damon: You’re not here to forgive me, Stefan. You’re here so I can forgive you.
Stefan: You’re kidding me, right? Think of all the ways you have ruined my life for the last century, including the fact that I’m working for Cade right now because of you and you seriously believe that you’re the one who should be forgiving me.
Damon: You’re right. I’m a monster. But like I said, I forgive you.
Stefan: [punches Damon] I have nothing to apologize for.
Damon: Then why are you here, Stefan? Huh? Why are you always there to straighten me out when I go off the rails? C’mon man, you’re not here for Cade. You’re here because you blame yourself for turning me in the first place. Apparently, I still do too. At least until today. I officially forgive you.
Stefan: Shut up!
Damon: I forgive you, Stefan.
Stefan: [repeatedly punches Damon] Why aren’t you healing?
Damon: Remember that vampire I was warning you about, running around in my head? Well, it’s not me. It’s you. It’s always been you, Stefan. So, for the last time, I forgive you for making me what I am. I absolve you of all the death and destruction I have caused as a result. And you wanna know why? Because you’re my brother. And I love you and there’s nothing you can do to ever change that.
These two scenes encapsulate why I love Stefan & Damon’s relationship. Stefan and Damon (and the fandom) often view themselves in black & white terms:
Stefan is the “good brother.” Damon is the “bad brother.” Stefan is selfless. Damon is selfish. Stefan is a hero. Damon is a villain. Stefan is empathetic. Damon is sadistic.
This is true. To an extent. Because it is also false. Stefan turning Damon into a vampire against Damon’s will was selfish. Damon leaving his brother per Lexie’s request was selfless. Stefan was villainous and sadistic in The End of the Affair. Damon was heroic and empathetic when he ended Rose’s suffering.
Stefan and Damon were not as black and white as they (or the fandom) portray themselves as. They were nuanced. They were complicated. They both did terrible things. And they both hurt each other. Stefan hurt Damon when he forced Damon to turn into a vampire. That violation was the source of Stefan’s guilt and Damon’s resentment. It’s the source of their problems. Katherine and Elena were proxies for Stefan and Damon’s issues; they weren’t the actual cause of them.
I’m not interested in philosophical or moral debates as to whether Stefan should feel guilty for Damon’s actions. Because that discussion is beside the point. The point is that Stefan does feel guilty, and Damon does feel resentful. Stefan needed Damon’s forgiveness before Stefan could forgive himself. Stefan needed to hear Damon say “I love you and there’s nothing you can do to ever change that.” And Damon needed to let go of his resentment. This was the entire point of their story.
candyumbrella wrote a fantastic meta about this topic, and I 100% co-sign.
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What do you think of Steroline? and also, if you were to choose what would you choose Steroline or Forwood?
#ask game
I tried to like steroline but the writing was terrible and I didn’t feel the chemistry in the later seasons. I also hate how the writers shat on both Stelena and forwood for them to happen. That being said, I would take it over klaroline any day of the week but I’m still not a fan. Here are some good metas encompassing my feelings:
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So.. 95% of 8x10 (excluding Damon reading his letter to Bonnie) of TVD still makes my blood boil by anger. Good to know.
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fcksakesx · 3 years
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Sometimes love is stopping someone from trying to stop you loving them.
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ishenwulf · 7 years
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Caroline + The Salvatore Boarding House School
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zalrb · 7 years
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So SCrs have a post comparing 3x07 with 8x10 and saying that Elena made everything about her, about Stefan feeling anything or he'd lose her, but Caroline makes it about him regardless of their relationship... I know you didn't watch the episode, but what do you think?
I watched that scene and here is where context comes into play.
In 3x01 we learn that Elena has been searching for Stefan all summer, like literally for two or three months basically all she’s been doing is chasing leads.
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and she’s been fighting everyone about searching for him:
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and in 3x02 she faces werewolves for him:
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In 3x03 she hid in a murder closet while Klaus the Original Vampire who thinks she’s dead, is right outside so she can see Stefan and bring him home:
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and then Stefan breaks up with her after all of that:
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and then in 3x05 she is hit by Klaus:
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she watches Stefan tear apart her classmates:
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and she’s still there like:
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telling him to fight and he just needs to want it bad enough and he’s compelled to bite her which puts her in the hospital:
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but in 3x06 she’s right there like:
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and then 3x07 comes around and before that moment that the SCers are comparing to 8x10, Elena spends the day learning from Lexi on how to get through to Stefan, it’s about her methods and the things you have to do to get him to feel again:
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She watches him suffer, listens to him talk about how he wished her never met her and she just has to take it , like it’s exhausting being there and going through that while at the same time her brother is cheating on her best friend with a ghost, Klaus is trying to make hybrids, like the world is coming apart at the seams and she’s needed elsewhere so she goes where she’s needed and Stefan asks her if she’s giving up, the one person who has been his cheerleader, who has been relentless in getting him back, who has been there no matter how hard he’s tried to push her away:
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and she says:
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Like no, I’m still here, I’m still your cheerleader, I’m still stubborn and she also says:
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which is fair because she’s done everything, she’s risked her life for him, she brought his dead best friend to help her get through to him, tortured him, pleaded with him, but he needs to want it too, which is a line very much about him as is this:
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and this line:
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is an appeal to his humanity which makes absolute sense because it has been established and re-established that his humanity is directly linked to Elena.
In 3x01, she’s the one he calls, not Damon, not Caroline, it’s Elena:
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In 3x05 he freaks out when Klaus hits her:
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he told her she was what kept him from giving up:
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Klaus marvels at the love he has for her:
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and he fights compulsion for her:
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So why wouldn’t Elena appeal to his humanity by threatening to give up on him? After everything she’s done for him why wouldn’t she realize that she’s spent so much of her time and been consumed with getting him back?
When 8x10 rolls around, what has Caroline done for Stefan by that point? Nothing. She’s talked at him.
In 8x08 they haven’t even interacted, she hasn’t been searching for any plans or any methods to help him out of his deal.
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In 8x09 she talks at Damon about Elena and dances with him then talks at Stefan then stakes Stefan and throws a ring at him.
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In 8x10 she manages to get him chained up and talks at him some more:
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She didn’t risk her life for him, she hasn’t spent months searching for him, she’s a vampire so she has eternity on her side while Elena was a human who was being hunted by original vampires, Caroline is just getting started when Elena was invested by the time 3x07 rolled around. They are in two very different places and frankly Elena and Caroline mean two very different things to Stefan. Give me 3x07 over 8x10 any day.
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bloodlustnlove · 7 years
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Because you’re my brother, and I love you.
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wesley-paul · 7 years
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wesley-paul: The Vampire Diaries 8x10 - “Nostalgia’s a Bitch” 
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plague2904 · 7 years
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You know who made a deal with the devil?
TVD cast, 8 years ago.
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laufire · 1 year
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sorry but the idea that Matt’s head ringing the bell when he falls against it COULD have counted as the 12th hit that burned the entire town with hellfire is freaking HILARIOUS.
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anything-gohs · 4 years
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for more
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susieandhobbes · 7 years
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I laughed when Damon promised Bonnie he’d never leave her again because I feel like Enzo is somewhere in the world just like “I’d rather you would mate”
Damon is like the epitome of the “You vs the Guy she tells you not to worry about” meme
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ohh-bloodyhell · 7 years
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southsideicons · 7 years
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