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so bc of that post i went back to see if there was anything else of interest in the scene in WaD where raine runs through the castle and
“i gave up my palisman for you”
my longest Yikes ever 🙃🙃🙃
#the owl house#toh#toh wad#watching and dreaming#toh spoilers#toh speculation#i know this isn’t really big news; we knew belos would take scouts’ palismen before entering the coven for a while now#but i still found this interesting and very vERY sad and upsetting#imagine the regret……#maggins' ramblings
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I'd love to know what the crew said when they planned this scene...
"We need to have a rat that looks like Alador, pronto!"
"Is the rat Alador transformed?"
"Nope"
"Ok... Is the rat his palisman?..."
"No, why would someone carve a rat that looks like himself?"
"I don't get it, what is the purpose of having a Rat that looks like Alador?"
"Purpose?"
#the owl house#toh#the owl house spoilers#the owl house theory#the owl lady#toh palismen#alador blight#toh alador#danna terrance#disney owl house#meme#shitpost#toh season 2#toh speculation#luz noceda#toh darius
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Reposting herw because no one is paying attention to me on twitter 🥲
#toh#the owl house luz#the owl house#toh season 3#toh spoilers#toh speculation#the owl house season 3#dana terrace
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I'm seriously wondering if this Agressive and Deady Weather was the result of Papa Titans immune system trying to rid itself of the Infection that is Belos and his cult...
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With the revelation of the Collector being just one out of a whole species and the whole “Collector creed” as in the book King read, it really has me thinking on the mural in King’s tower and the name of the Titan Trappers as a group. What if the big battle between the Titan Trapper and Titan was not about slaying the Titan, but rather about the Titan Trapper trying to subdue the Titan long enough for the Collectors to collect and preserve it?
After all, the comet IS headed towards the Titan’s face, and as we saw in this episode, well…
But given the established fact that Titan magic cancels out Collector magic this episode, as well as the mystery of how that battle ended, I feel the story of the Collectors and Titans may have gone in a direction like this:
Countless eons ago, the Collector (who shall be referred to as Cole for ease) came into existence to a group of Collectors. At some point, he was brought along to observe and participate in the collecting of a new planet as part of his training to be a proper Collector...
Amongst the creatures they set out to collect, they came across huge, powerful beings known as the titans whose magic, curiously, made them resistant to the Collectors’ magic. Desiring to collect such powerful creatures, they empowered and created the Titan Trappers, who would ideally trap and pin down the Titans long enough to actually collect them.
Practically though, the Titan’s magic proved too strong of a counter to the attempt to collect them, so while the adult Collectors tried to figure out how to preserve the adult Titans, Cole was sent out with the task of collecting the much weaker - and thus easier to collect - baby Titans.
However, instead of preserving them, Cole wound up playing and having so much fun with his unexpected new friends that he went to the other Collectors to argue for his new friends to stay UNcollected and UNpreserved. Aka going going directly against the “Collector creed.”
But rather than punishing Cole for deviating from their book of conduct and beliefs, the adult Collectors took outrage at the Titans who had “meddled” in their affairs and “corrupted” their poor, innocent, rule-following child.
To the adult Collectors, their precious Cole could not have come up with such heretical ideas on his own. Surely he could not have fallen into such a transgression against everything the group is meant to stand for out of his own free will.
No, it must have been the influence of the Titans and their horrific magic, and as decreed in the book of the Collectors, these meddlers in personal affairs MUST be eradicated. Thank goodness they caught this in time and prevented their precious Cole from forsaking their family and everything they believed in.
As for the demons who dared try to “corrupt” their child and by extension the rest of the Collectors, the the stars would descend from the heavens above to strike the world below in fiery judgement - a world which would be immolated as part of the efforts to prevent any swaying away from the truth that they all follow and have been teaching Cole to follow.
In other words, sounds an awful lot like a Puritan colonist getting so swept up in the fervor of burning witches at the stake as their interpretation of the Bible decreed - so swept up that they cannot accept a loved one’s true self could deviate so far from the norms of society and blames such deviancy on witches and demons, amiright?
#the owl house#the owl house spoilers#the owl house theory#TOH theory#TOH spoilers#the collector#the Titan#toh speculation#toh collector
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thanks for watching </3
#the owl house#toh my beloved#toh spoilers#toh#toh s2b#the owl house hunter#toh season three#toh speculation#crying screaming throwing up#dana terrace
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LISTEN I actually really hope that this is more than a manifestation or hallucination bc that would hold so much potential for a side of Caleb that I haven’t seen explored in much fan content.
I most often see Caleb depicted by fans in contexts similar to this one as a weary yet ever-enduring saint. An all-forgiving paragon. & certain frames during this scene certainly bring that image to mind (the knife turned to look like a cross, for example).
But in the image above? Caleb’s face certainly looks worn, but there’s more in his expression. He’s disgusted. He’s angry.
That is a look that is so LOUD while Caleb himself is completely silent.
“You stole me. You stole me from my wife and unborn child. You stole me from the grave they gave me. You stole me from the life I should’ve had with the family I built for myself. A family I would’ve welcomed you into had you not chosen hatred.
“You stole from my wife her husband and from my child their father. You tried to steal their lives and when you couldn’t, you stole instead the lives of countless innocent witches and palisman.
“And those boys you made from my stolen corpse? You hardly gave them life, you gave them subjugation. Yet you managed to steal life from them anyhow, killing them before they even had a chance at true living.
“And all this thievery, this murder, in the vain hope that it will equal repentance for killing me. Philip. Maybe these are Satan’s creatures, maybe you are doing God’s work, maybe for this God will forgive you. But I. Never. Will.”
#the owl house spoilers#for the future spoilers#the owl house#toh#caleb wittebane#philip wittebane#emperor belos#for the future#toh meta#toh speculation#500
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I know there’s a lot of this already at this point, but I have realized another piece of evidence that Luz’s palisman will hatch into a snake:
Owls will literally let snakes into their nest and live in mutual symbiosis to keep the nest free of vermin and parasites. In a sense, the snakes become a part of the family.
Sound Familiar???
#I’m telling ya she’s gonna get a bonafide snek🐍#she’ll be a wild witch… with a snek side#the owl house#toh#toh speculation#luz noceda#amber's post
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Those three years of rebuilding on the Boiling Isles were not smooth sailing, and not just literal rebuilding, but a long series of small and big crises that had to be addressed quickly.
Because you can't tell me that Luz' friends and family wouldn't find a way to make time for Luz' birthday.
Much less for three whole years.
#the owl house#toh meta#luz noceda#toh spoilers#watching and dreaming#toh speculation#the owl house spoilers#toh s3#toh season 3#the owl house season 3
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Friendly reminder that when Alador and Darius will marry, Hunter will become Alador's kid.
#the owl house#owl house#toh s2b#toh season 2#toh spoilers#toh season two#toh speculation#hunter owl house#toh hunter#alador x darius#toh darius#toh alador#the owl house alador#alador blight#i said will not would#it was on purpose#and amitys sibbling#kings tide#toh s2e21
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In For The Future it's hinted that The Collector has already started to somewhat learn what friendship is through spending time with King. In particular This Scene:
Where Terra is smart mouthing him. He only looks mildly irritated. More so at the fact that she isn't getting her "role" right. UNTIL she insults King.
Where he's surprised and then they look over At King.
Before getting mad on King's behalf. Which show's that they consider King getting insulted a big No No. Meaning he doesn't want anyone possibly hurting King's feelings with their words.
And then, instead of turning Terra into a doll/puppet for not "playing right" or "being a convincing enough Eda", they specifically state that:
It's because she's being was Mean.
#The owl house#the collecter toh#toh collector#Toh king#toh speculation#They are Learning okay#They're experiencing they're first ever friendship and it's starting to affect their moral views okay#I will die on the hill that The Collector is Just a KID who doesn't grasp the complexities of morality just yet#Nothing they do is with malicious intent
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So, if Hooty was able to hear Lilith…are the puppets conscious? It may just be because she cried on him, but he also says, “Sequestered in a darkness like unto death,” which made me very uncomfortable.
If they are conscious, I don’t think they’ll fully discuss the implications because it’s a kid’s show, but months of being locked in your own body which sometimes moves without your permission, unable to speak, only your thoughts to keep your company…woof. It might blow your mental health out to the point where it would never recover.
Thinking about Willow’s Dad Gilbert knowing that she was crying for him, running toward him, wanting to save him, and being unable to hold her and reunite with her, to comfort her. Raine hearing Eda. Raine being forced to threaten Eda. Darius and Eber being forced to threaten Eda, too!
Raine being aware that Belos possessed them?? I saw someone on Twitter suggest that Belos wiping the goop off their cheek might have been Raine crying.
Just. Fucked up.
#the owl house#toh spoilers#toh s3 spoilers#toh s3#toh s3e2#for the future#the owl house season 3#raine whispers#emperor belos#philip wittebane#gilbert park#edalyn clawthorne#darius deamonne#eberwolf the huntsman#toh speculation#hooty toh#hooty#lilith clawthorne#willow park
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Holy Shit I Just Realized Something (toh finale spoilers and Badly Structured, Massively Long Rant up ahead)
when we first meet willow in early s1, she's in the abomination track and as we all know she is Struggling. abomination magic just doesn't come as naturally to her as plant magic, which is fine, but it isn't being addressed by the school.
soon enough she gets switched over to the plant track as she wishes- i don't remember the exact details of the episode, it's been a little while, but iirc principal bump shows up after willow covers the entire inside of the school in vines and basically goes "no, i'm not punishing you, instead i'm switching you to the plant track because you're clearly more skilled at this type of magic."
which none of us really thought about, right?? maybe some of us were like "hm, that was a bit abrupt" but we didn't think too much of it because we didn't have much of an idea of bump's character yet.
not much later, it's revealed that bump himself is a part of the abomination coven. (it's not exactly Discussed but his sigil is visible in some shots, like this one.) he is bound by sigil to be restricted to abomination magic and nothing else.
one slightly less relevant detail that i find interesting is how he doesn't Look like an abomination coven member, and so he seems a lot less invested in his status as an abomination witch. now you may be thinking: ferret, that's a moot point because 1. not every magic user is going to have their preferred type of magic/coven/track whatever implemented into their design and 2. princy b wears his Principal Robes every time we see him up until the finale, so it would be difficult to implement those details into his design anyway.
now, that second point is actually, uh. Fair. but as for the first point, allow me to explain
here are two prominent abomination coven members, darius deamonne and alador blight
both of them are pretty obviously abomination coven members right off the bat. darius, being a coven head, has a Shit ton of purple in his design to indicate this (and that's not even including his hair). with alador, this is toned down, but it's still obvious by the permanent abomination goo stains on his coat (and also by the fact that he apparently doesn't wash his hands after working on the abomatons /lhj). these two are specialists, in different ways, of course, but ultimately their skills lie in abomination magic, and neither of them have expressed a wish to try other types of magic at this point.
but here's the thing. as far as i can tell, bump is Not a specialist. while he is a skilled abomination witch, we rarely see him make use of the fact except for during fight scenes- he doesn't seem very invested in it. plus, when we see him during the epilogue, he's enjoying a new hobby, which is...
...plant care, much like willow! :)
(side note i love the holes in his hat for frewin's horns)
now, of course you could interpret this as bump simply discovering a New hobby between where wad left off & the epilogue. but to me, this says that all this time he was held back from his passion for plant care for multiple reasons, for example his job as the principal of hexside definitely put a strain on him in terms of how much time he could spend doing things for himself. but now that he's retired, and the coven system has been dismantled, he can spend more time doing things that bring him joy, just like many others in the epilogue.
this means that when he saw what willow was capable of back in s1, and transferred her to the plant track, he was really saying "i see you're struggling, and i won't let you go through what i went through by forcing you to go down a path that isn't yours." and god he means so much to me for that.
anyways end of rant, if you're here reading this i sincerely congratulate you for getting this far without passing away . i am very unnormal about hieronymus bump and it shows.
(also, PLSPLSLSS reblog this if you agree i spent like an hour here sitting here typing this all up on my phone at 1am AHDKDJFJE)
#toh#the owl house#toh spoilers#the owl house spoilers#toh speculation#principal bump#principal bump toh#hieronymus bump#willow park#willow toh#alador blight#alador toh#darius deamonne#darius toh#only mentioned them briefly but why not tag them as well#anyways i love bump more than i can begin to express#ferret rambles#sorry this is mostly incoherent but tbf on me its past 1am on a school night and ive been sitting here brainrotting for over an hour
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If we don't get a scene like this in 3x01, then what's the point
(id in alt)
#toh#the owl house#toh spoilers#toh meme#tua memes#toh speculation#toh theories#luz noceda#amity blight#willow park#gus porter#hunter toh
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*sweats nervously*
@stuck-in-jelly and I were discussing how we could see the season 3 plot involving the boiling isles mains trying to appease the Collector with a very elaborate, immersive game of House. With lots of ‘everything is fine haha we are a happy, definitely-not-stressed family. there is no war in ba sing se’ I imagine their only comfort while they walk on eggshells and try to plan further action is that Luz, Willow, Amity, Gus, and Hunter are in the human realm away from danger. But I decided to doodle what I imagine their expressions would be like when those kiddos show up again ready to help. Saying ’ Haha no it’s okay we’re all okay. Everything is fine, we’re happy to see you!’ But with ‘WHY ARE YOU HERE’ and thinly (or not even) veiled panic in their eyes. ALSO note: I gave Raine a forearm crutch bc I don’t think the covenheads get thru the day of unity without lasting effects since they are at the center of it. Also bc I use forearm crutches and I say so lol
#the owl house#toh#toh speculation#toh au#toh spoilers#idk if it’s an au lol#eda clawthorne#raine whispers#lilith clawthorne#king clawthorne#hooty#dude I can’t draw hooty or king rip dudes#ANYWAYS jelly and I see this as an opportunity to see domestic raeda but w the bonus angst of it not being quite right#al chatters#my art#fanart#i made the crutch kinda plant-magicky
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UH HEY GUYS
THAT PATTERN ON THE ORB IS, UH, KINDA FAMILIAR
#this is ABSOLUTELY connected you cant convince me it's not#toh#toh spoilers#toh the collector#the collector#the owl house the collector#toh titan#toh theory#ig?#i dont know what to put this as#toh speculation#either way
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