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something that i love about the final chapter of season one is luke outright saying that the gods are arrogant loudmouths who hold too much pride to power. who'd much rather have their child die than do something about it. and we don't believe him at first. then we follow percy throughout the series, getting our hopes and watching them crash and burn right alongside his. until we reach a point where we understand what luke meant and how right he was. excellent storytelling.
#rick is a genius#a genius who likes to make us cry in agony#but a genius nonetheless#percy jackon and the olympians#pjo text post#pjo#pjo shitposting#tlt commentary#tlt shitposting#pjo adaptation#pjo commentary
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Most humorous, God made a ur mom joke.
#it is at moments like these we all wish Gideon was present for commentary#the locked tomb#harrow the ninth#tlt
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It's @starberry-cupcake's first time reading Gideon the Ninth and I'm getting the most incredible live commentary
(No spoilers in the tags/comments/reblogs!)
#i can't read gtn for the first time again but i CAN vicariously experience it through my friends that i force it upon#and now so can you 😌#the locked tomb#gideon the ninth#tlt#gtn#tlt live commentary
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No more “I could fix him”, John Gaius is an Animal Farm allegory. Not in a “he could have been better” kind of way, in an “absolute power corrupts absolutely” kind of way. He serves as a lesson about what being given necromancy in a regular society would do to just about anyone, even a well-meaning scientist.
#tlt#the locked tomb#john gaius#gtn#htn#ntn#gideon the ninth#gideon the ninth spoilers#locked tomb spoilers#locked tomb series#also he might not be native and that is part of the commentary
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John was meant to save planet earth and instead he made a solar system where trees are so rare that paper is a super luxury item great job shithead
#you killed the earth you could at least plant some trees somewhere else to say I’m sorry#tlt#the locked tomb#john gaius#this is not incisive commentary I just hate him
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honestly the true essence of a tlt girlie is just sitting there thinking about the books and feeling insane. like the way we post is so funny, half of the posts on here start with “forever thinking about” or “it makes me insane how.” we’re really all just go down each page feeling indescribable emotions about each successive sentence
#like this is a callout post for myself#but I also just think it’s so funny how you could probably find 20 posts about every single interaction of any combination of characters#with commentary about how it makes op chew the drywall in their bedroom#op#tlt#the locked tomb
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Real bold of Naberius 'collapses in a delicate heap when punched' Tern to challenge Camilla after watching her break Marta 'I've seen active combat' Dyas's fucking wrist.
Sure, Camilla was injured but the mask was off at that point. Naberius might have had the upper hand in a traditional cavalier duel but I doubt Camilla would have hesitated to ditch her rapier and bash his smug pretty little brains all over the table.
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john is so interesting because i don't think i've ever consumed a piece of media where there is a character who is a god and became one within a pre-exisiting cultural context of other gods, which they then use to justify their actions. like by the end of the gospel of john within ntn it is clear that john was power hungry and he killed everyone on earth because no one could stop him and he felt he had the right to decide the fate of all of humanity because he knew better than everyone else... and he's trying to convince himself everything he did was fine and good because the earth needed to be wiped clean to begin anew without evil, like the story of the flood. he genocided everyone on earth and killed the rest of the planets in the galaxy to consume all their souls and get revenge on the trillionaires who were going to abandon everyone to the climate apocalypse and he's using christian mythology to justify it. there's a lot to unpack there
#including the social commentary of muir choosing to make him essentially an ecoterrorist#when the attacker in the 2019 christchurch mosque shootings had racist ecofascist ideology in his manifesto#but i don't know enough about that situation to speak on it with nuance#tlt#the locked tomb spoilers#the locked tomb#tlt spoilers#ntn#nona the ninth#nona the ninth spoilers#ntn spoilers#nona spoilers#jod#john gaius#mine
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Choose your adventure:
Gideon low key mixed kid experience- growing up scorned, not belonging, one day finding out where you really come from, but it has a weird disconnected feeling despite it being something you thought you always wanted.
Harrow low key mixed kid experience- growing up high expectations to adhere to the mold and carrying the entire legacy of a dying culture on your shoulders. Also you don’t quite feel right about it because there’s this pesky remembrance of genocide/violence that taints your making and you cannot escape it.
#I haven’t seen a lot of commentary on how tazmuir actually wrote her characters as kiwis/mixed culture sooooo#was thinking about harrow and how it really does translate similarly to something one of my Filipino friends told me how they feel#the locked tomb#tlt
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Reasons why Bring on the Monsters from The Lightning Theif musical is an amazing song:
1.) "There's gonna be a fight. There still might be a war. For a moment, we've got danger on the run." Talk about setting the tone. We're in the clear as of today, but something is coming. Something bad.
2.) "Feeling ready🌊" "Feeling stoked🦉" "Feeling quesy🐐". Love how they gave Annabeth the 'feeling stoked' line. Because, of course, she's waiting in the wings, ready to kick ass when need. But it's also hilarious that the actress playing Annabeth is Kristen Stokes. So, I just imagine the writers gave her that line to mess with her.
3.) "Bring on the monsters. Bring on the real world." Like, yeah. They physically spent the majority of this musical in the real world, but they were disconnected from it. The three of them singing this line is a declaration of unity between their human and godly side. They are neither here nor there, not bound to one world, but exist in both.
4.) "They'll be times when your faith is shaken." Yes, your faith in the gods will be on the brink of breaking at any given moment. But so will the faith in yourself. But sometimes, being a demigod means doing it scared. But you won't go it alone.
5.) "Gotta know where the real fight lies when it's time to rise and stand your ground." Annabeth and Clarisse singing about knowing which battles are worth fighting and when is utterly amazing. Because not only are they both children of war gods, but they also canonically struggled with being strong-willed and prideful. It's like even though were at odds at the beginning of the musical, they aren't as different as they first appear.
6.) "No, I'm never gonna once have it easy. I'll make mistakes, but my own, and it frees me." In TLT, Book!Sally says something along the lines of: 'If my life is going to mean anything, I have to live it myself.' This is as applicable to a demigod as it is to a mortal. And it's bittersweet because not every demigod gets the chance to choose. Or rather, they don't choose wisely because they're so spiteful when it comes time. But sometimes, you gotta let the anger fade and move forward.
7.) "I'll be back next summer. You'll see me again. I'll be back next summer. I'll survive 'till then." There's something about this line that makes me want to cry. Percy started this musical saying he didn't want to be a half-blood, essentially rejecting the idea of a demigod, but ends the musical declaring his eventual return. He isn't saying goodbye, but a see you later. Which just tugs at my heart strings knowing we'll never get a second musical, but it's okay because Percy's essence extends beyond the Broadway medium. Whether it be a book, musical, movie, or graphic novel, Percy will always be back.
8.) Also, if you listen to the instrumental of this song, the guitar riff at the very end is playing the same melody of 'I didn't wanna to be a half-blood' underneath Percy's declaration of unwavering loyalty to demigods. And it broke me like a bone.
You guys remember these? That's great because I didn't. It just occurred to me that I never finished my analysis of the TLT musical, and I thought I'd get on that. Anyway, this song is fucking incredible, and I want a SOM musical. But I digress.
#if you're an og you'll remember this era of @demigods-posts#but yeah i still have a few songs to cover#simply for my own fulfillment#percy jackon and the olympians#pjo text post#pjo#the lightning theif#the lightning theif musical#tlt musical adaptation#tlt shitposting#tlt musical#tlt commentary#tlt musical commentary#percy jackson#annabeth chase#grover underwood#clarisse la rue#silena beauregard#chiron
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rereading tlt again dancing man emoji
#crunchyposts#pjo#reading commentary#my book is genuinely so full of annotations im scared lol#anyways. this book still slaps it makes me mourn what the show couldve been but this book will always be here for me#except i will skip every single detail of “western civilization” if i read it ill die
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Okay okay okay okay. Okay okay. I’m kinda delirious right now but I figured this out BEFORE I was delirious so I can say that this was well thought out.
Anyways!!!! Hello fellow gay people in my computer with an unhealthy obsession with bones, I wanna talk memes. Specifically, the whole concept of how Muir uses memes in the Locked Tomb series and how they go a lot deeper than you think they do. Spoilers for Nona the Ninth below, you have been warned.
So. Memes. On the very most basic level, the memes are there for shits and giggles. For audience appeal, recognition, whatever. People see the funny words in the funny sentence and go “oh shit I know what that is!!!!” and it makes them laugh. This is the lesbian meme series for a reason, and that’s perfectly valid. Tangentially, it will date the series as the decades pass- as our culture moves beyond the little references put in these works, we will view them less as funny and more as a pinpoint in our history; a way archive our culture in those decades. The future readers will go oh, they still found miette funny back then and move on. This happens to all literature over the years, it’s only natural.
But what if I told you there was more?
Here’s what we know about the lore for this series:
The Resurrection was 10,000 years ago
Earth was largely the same as our earth until Jod became a tree fucker necromancer and nuked everything, and then our timelines separate
Jod used the Internet (more likely a streaming service like Twitch or Youtube) to get his message out there, so he would probably be aware if not invested in meme culture around the time
Jod is the only person with memories from the before times
Jod literally had to reinvent human culture and society from the ground up
And here are the memes used in Harrow and Nona (as many as I can find, there may be more, and if you know of them, tell me!):
You Are Like Little Baby, Watch This (said by Mercy when training Harrow)
Guess I’ll Die (said by Teacher in the false retellings)
The Cool S (referenced by Ortus in the false retellings)
The two “ur mom” jokes (I don’t exactly remember where they are in Harrow just know there are two)
None Pizza with Left Beef (referenced by Jod when talking to Harrow)
8 Mile Lyrics (Jod making fun of Wake)
Bring Me To Life (Jod making fun of Wake)
Miette (referenced by Gideon when talking to Phyrra)
For $2000 I Will Stop (referenced by Jod when explaining the death of earth to Harrow)
Then Perish (in the epilogue of Nona somewhere, I don’t remember where)
Thats a lot of memes. Like, a lot of memes, and they’re used by a variety of different characters, with Jod saying a good amount. Some of those memes are obscure enough that you’d have to be invested in internet culture to know about. But that’s the thing: it makes sense for those memes to be there. From a world building standpoint, they’re a part of casual conversation, used regularly and idiomatically. And from what we know about Jod, he was a part of internet and meme culture, so of course when he’s rebuilding language and society from the ground up, his way of speaking and use of memes is gonna slip in. After ten thousand years, things we (as the reader) and Jod (as the only person who knows what a goddamn meme is) consider “memes” are going to be part of human language and culture without classification that separates them from normal speech. It also explains certain terms used for common objects- Jod was a kiwi, so he’s gonna speak like a kiwi, and society speaks like him.
But also, there’s still more. The thing about memes is that they are online, said by someone at some time. Those memes have a pinpoint date to when they were said and went viral. And Jod can do a lot of things, but Jod cannot see the future, and Jod cannot reference things that did not happen before he nuked earth. Meaning because of the memes used in this series, we can almost very nicely pinpoint the year the Earth got nuked. And y’all fucking KNOW I did the research on this one.
The youngest meme on this list is, funnily enough, the miette reference in Harrow the Ninth. That tweet was made in March of 2019, but didn’t really go viral until later in the year, so that gives us somewhere between late 2019 and early 2020 for the world to go kaboom, since there are no mentions of Covid 19 or some sort of pandemic. But Muir could very well reference goncharov in the next book (I don’t think she will, considering the time it takes to write, edit, promote and publish books) and that would only move our timeline up by a couple years, and since it’s the last book in the series, that’s the final marking we have for the timeline. Similarly to Jod, Muir cannot reference what hasn’t happened (yet). This was probably entirely accidental on her part, but it’s still fun and super fucking cool!!!!
Anyways. I am so normal about this series, I hope you enjoyed my little dissertation on meme usage in it. I’m gonna go pass out or something.
#woosh quotes themself#the locked tomb#gideon the ninth#harrow the ninth#nona the ninth#nona spoilers#tlt series#tlt theories#I am so fucking normal. I’m so normal YALL#also for an added layer of fuckery you can very reasonably consider Nona a commentary on internet culture affecting the real world#because of how Jod uses twitch to get his message out#anyways. gaslight Gatekeep girlboss Gideon#nona the ninth spoilers#ntn spoilers
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procrastinating this highly overdue work project with The Locked Tomb (for the 376246th time) and i am amusedly exasperated at the reddit threads “discussing” the author’s “fault” for not making harrowhark’s and gideon’s skin colours “obvious” in the text.
firstly—stupid default forms of conversation (especially on the internet) which love to apportion blame as a form of defense. “everyone sucks because they’re whitewashing a pee oh see” (a term i hate btw) vs “how was i supposed to even know they’re PoCs—i’m not racist, the author is in fact bad at her job”.
secondly—interesting points were raised about the non-importance of skin colour (and sexual preference, although this wasn’t mentioned in le reddit threads) as plot-influencing points in the TLT universe.
thirdly—why become so defensive about a mistake? most white readers in english tend to assume the “default” ethnicity is white; and i’m willing to bet that non-white readers of english do this, too, because we’re used to that same default standard which needs 7621 adjectives (usually food-related) to point out (and other-ise) the non-whiteness of a character. (there are certainly better examples of this but—s/o to neil gaiman who flipped this in Anansi Boys, describing only the skin tones of the white people, implying that the default was Black.) i also made this assumption with gideon and harrow, although—and until—i did notice the descriptive hints of their skin colour (when muir did eventually drop them).
anyway—i don’t at all mean to ignore the real-world implications of racism and the erasure of the global majority in white western imaginations. but i do feel a bit sad/annoyed when fandom/literary discourse takes a very ticking-boxes-off-the-list approach to representation. also irked by the general internet (and societal tbh) paradigm of being unwilling or unable to change your thought framework, and feeling like you have to dig your heels into a stupid position or find an external reason to “blame” rather than just going. oh. that was wrong of me. i’ll change now.
#i didn't expect that my first original contribution to this fandom would be meta commentary lite#was fully willing to bet it would be cheap calligraphy of significant tm quotes#not thinking this through very much so im sure ill disagree with myself on some point/s eventually#the locked tomb#tlt#gideon the ninth#harrow the ninth#nona the ninth#fandom
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REALIZATION: if harrow the ninth is a work of greek theatre - which it is, it has a parodos and acts and everything - then gideon is the greek chorus
#i mean think about it - her commentary peeks through harrow's narration filter#she's like the greek chorus occasionally bitching about what's happening in the play#this is my take of the day thank you very much#tlt#htn#harrow the ninth#gideon nav#greek theatre
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I know Griddlehark and Jacinter have completely different dynamics, but I’ve come to realize that they’re both essentially “intergalactic noble and her guard who have known each other since childhood, serving the most exquisite Yearning™️ in a sci-fi fantasy book series” (Saying this because I know you love both ships 😭)
Fr they are on the exact opposite ends of the bodyguard trope, but boy do they make me feel stuff. They both start out as a forced bodyguard too. Exquisite
#eernask#eernanon#eernask talk tlt#eernask talk tlc#also jacin is a proper guard type while gideon is a commentary on it#as in i love princess-guard content for jacinter but for girddlehark i just wanna grab gideon and tell her she matters
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so deeply incredible that corona was some level of active participant in the capture of the sixth diplomatic party and then months later was out there like “millieeeeeee can’t we play girlfriend boyfriend like we used to” millie is busy searching for her family. whom you kidnapped
#underrated crazy bitch shit. there’s lots of crazy bitch shit in this series but i think this particular bit goes under the radar#post tag#tlt#directors commentary: this was written before my last post but i drafted it. but i like it actually so i’m posting it now
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