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drwormwithproblems · 2 days ago
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john (life falling apart, suddenly a single father to an undead teenager with an attitude): what is it you want, gideon?
gideon (trying to be as obnoxious as possible): i wanna lead the cohort
john "post-divorce slut era nothing matters anymore" gaius: you got it kiddo!
gideon: (shocked pikachu face)
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ortustheninth · a day ago
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Something something how John refers to those that would become necromancers’ as ‘his’ and by name but those that would become cavaliers are called things like ‘M-‘s nun’ and ‘C-‘s artist’. Trickle down economics for messed-up power dynamics’ or something
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xenadd · 2 days ago
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I needed a house to put you in, if I wasn’t going to put you all in me. I made you one on the fly… I wasn’t even thinking… I ripped half my ribs from my body and made you from the dirt, my blood, my vomit, my bone.
- John 1:20
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sermna · an hour ago
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this is rough but I think I'm just going to call it here 🤷‍♀️
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voyaging-too · 2 days ago
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John is an unreliable narrator, and we can never be quite sure how much of what he says is real. My current interpretation is that in NtN, John probably imagines that he’s telling the truth, and he’s mostly telling most of the truth about most events. He’s not lying, not lying-lying, he just gets really vague and really short on details whenever there’s a chance he might look bad or incompetent, which is almost all of the time. Nobody, not even Alecto is there to corroborate key parts of John’s story, which means that we only have his word for it, and worse, he only has his own word for it. The story he tells us is a story he has been telling himself for millenia, and thus it is bound to be full of shit.
The biggest, most obvious problem with the story is John’s motivation. John opposes the FTL project from day one and claims that there’s something wrong with it, and then it turns out he’s probably right, the FTL plan will betray humanity and only rescue a select few. But John didn’t know that on day one, didn’t know that when he started fighting! All he knew is that the cryo plan, his own plan, was shut down, and the money went to the FTL plan, which investors considered more feasible. At the beginning, John wasn’t acting on a certainty that FTL won’t work, he was acting on personal resentment that someone else got the funding, that someone else would get to save the Earth. He calls the inventor of feasible FTL travel ‘some poor dipshit geek,’ which is beyond rude, and reeks of petty professional jealousy. He consistently calls the leaders of the FTL project ‘the trillionaires’, handily reducing them to this nameless faceless cabal of evil. To simplify things, he conveniently pretends that the group he opposes is composed solely of investors, even though a huge number of his fellow scientists and other professionals must have been involved in a project that size.
Before the resurrection, John had a lot of personal incentives to think that there’s something wrong with the FTL project, that it’s corrupt or that it’s not going to work. After all, it destroyed and replaced his own project, his life’s work. And after the resurrection, John has even more incentives, all the incentives in the world, to believe that the FTL project betrayed humanity, that they were never going to build more ships, that they were never going to come back for the rest of the people. Because if the project was legit, he killed humanity for no reason.
I choose to mostly believe the broad strokes of John’s narrative until proven otherwise. After all, it's utterly plausible that a small group of rich people would be willing to sell out the rest of humanity just to save themselves. And yet, the man telling us how it happened is a proven liar whose entire sense of self (and also his ten-thousand-year space empire) hinges on him having been right in a situation where he had clearly been wrong.
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transkirionagaia · a day ago
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Gideon the Ninth
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Nona the Ninth
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theriverbeyond · 20 days ago
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frogseasons · 24 days ago
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he’s god. he’s a millenial. he resurrected an entire solar system. he eats peanuts in meetings. he started a nuclear war. he’s 10,000 years old. he makes none pizza with left beef jokes. he’s a slut. he killed and then anthropomorphized the earth to look like Barbie. he has threesomes with his besties who want to kill him. he’s a deadbeat dad. he listened to evanescence. he locked his ex up in a block of ice in an unbreakable tomb on pluto because his friends didnt like her. he hated billionaires. he wanted to adopt a psychotic bone nun who lobotomized herself. he likes tea and biscuits. he controlled the body of the dead US president. he’s from new zealand. he wears baby fingers around his head. his name is john of all fucking things. he killed the whole solar system. he was a tumblrina. his only comment on destroying melbourne was “shame about the tram service”.
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tinytrainworld · a month ago
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so funny to me how augustine and mercymorn were like “don’t worry guys. we have a plan to distract god. just wait for the signal, you’ll know it when you see it.” and the signal was to just start having a threesome with god on the dinner table right in front of harrow and ianthe
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smapis · 4 months ago
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LYCTOR ROUNDTABLE
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c0sm0knight · 21 days ago
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We all knew that John was awful, but the thing that perhaps struck me as the most appalling sick shit on top of all the other appalling sick shit he's done is this:
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From the beginning I was slightly confused about why John consistently used A—, M— etc throughout the memories we see instead of the lyctors' full names, like we know who these people are, but I also thought okay, well they were all known to sign just their initials and use them as callsigns all the time, whatever right?
But when he talks about Ulysses and Titania he uses their full names in every instance except in this one, when he says U— and T— were their old names, before he renamed them to his liking, because he's a controlling deranged bastard like that.
And then it just hits you.
He's not using the lyctors' full names because those are their old names too. He has RENAMED his dead best friends who died protecting him. Every single one of them. They weren't around to say yes or no.
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inktog · 13 days ago
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Some people seem confused about the John dreams, so I wanted to spell out what I think is happening.
In the dreams, there are two characters: he and she. While he is obviously John, she is somehow both Harrow and Alecto. When he directly addresses her—as you—he seems to be talking to the planet Earth, to Alecto. The only way out was to dump the population on an exoplanet, he says. It was about giving you breathing room, you know? But when he names her, her name is Harrowhark. She, for her part, speaks very little, but in the last dream she speaks blatantly as Harrow: “Teacher, what does it mean for a child of the Ninth to love God?”
The dreams are in a River bubble. This is pretty obvious: the bubble parts at end of the last dream, and she—Harrow—walks in the direction of the tower. Exactly how they ended up here remains to be seen, but this isn't a first for Harrow; the Canaan House bubble in HTN happens while she's dreaming or unconscious.
In the last dream, he asks, “Do you remember what happens now?” And she says, “Yes. Through her, I've seen it.” She's talking about the Resurrection and the Eightfold Word, but if we retroactively apply this lens to the dreams—to his account of the extinction event—it resolves the contradiction of her. Harrow is seeing, learning, through Alecto's eyes. More specifically, they have swapped dreams (just as they have swapped bodies): Nona dreams of Gideon’s forgiveness, and Harrow dreams of crawling with John through the wreckage of the planet he destroyed only yesterday.
In the dream bubbles—in 2011—little pockets of pseudo-reality within the maddening horror and nonsensical spacetime of the Furthest Ring, the dead and dreaming reenact old memories; at least once, a character (Aranea) pretends to be someone else (AG) for the sake of a reenactment. Likewise, Harrow and John are acting out one of Alecto's memories. They sometimes break character to talk as their present-day selves, but they are otherwise passive observers in this dream-memory. Thus, John’s account is not (as I've seen some people claim) filtered through a myriad of self-denial. This isn't the John from HTN with a perfect lie ten thousand years in the making. It's John in the wake of his very recent omnicide, scrambling to explain himself to Alecto.
Direct dialogue in the dreams usually forgoes quotation marks. But sometimes it uses them, including but not limited to: every time he calls her Harrowhark or Harrow, every time she calls him Lord or Teacher, and the entirety of the final dream. We can infer that quotation marks are used when, and only when, the speaker breaks character. This clears up some things. Like how Then they were gone…lost it time to me forever (past John) becomes “They are still out there. There can be no forgiveness” (present John). However, we've reintroduced an old problem.
In the dream, he says, “This is the part where I hurt you. Are you ready?” (With quotation marks.) In the dream, he says, “Do you remember what you said to me once I had done it? When we stood here together?” (With quotation marks.) In the dream, he calls her “beloved” and “love.” (With quotation marks.) In the dream, he makes a pothook—J—then the finned spine of E. He wipes that E clean, and replaces it with A. He wipes that clean, and he draws the prison bars of H. This J and H he bars around with an uneven heart. John—our John, present-day John—is conflating his old love with his new student. Harrow plays along, and in doing so gains some more answers.
In the dreams, she says, “I still love you.” (With quotation marks.)
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whatsupspaceman · 3 months ago
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the locked tomb as memes but not any of the memes that get referenced word for word in the actual books themselves
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oh-jail-for-mother · 15 days ago
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you know it. i know it. we all know it
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belovedblabber · 23 days ago
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Ok this is the funniest fucking possible way to refer to the og lyctors
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voyaging-too · 6 hours ago
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John’s recurring jokes about cows, and how people got mad at him for killing cows, and how people kept telling him more and more facts about cows being intelligent social animals, is hilarious. But it’s also a way to track his increasing anger and callousness towards others – remember, one of his first jokes is about how he should have just killed humans instead, because nobody would have missed them.
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theoppositeofprofound · 17 days ago
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Maybe it’s just the Mercy in me but I’m so delighted by the idea of Ianthe elder-abusing the Prince of Ten Thousand Years. Mr. Apocalypse Cult might normally put up more of a fight but it’s been a bad year for him and he’s willing to let his third-favorite teen-adjacent girl-adjacent necroterror bully him a little. It makes him feel pathetic and coddled. Ianthe had all these PLANS to drug his pretzels and hack his tablet and suborn his generals and marry Gideon if need be but instead it’s a lot of:
“Ianthe, sweetheart, Daddy has a headache right now. You can forge my signature on whatever forms you like as long as you turn the lights off while you do it.”
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