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ambrosiustheunknown · 14 days
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Character Analysis - Severus Snape
No because I feel like people don't truly understand Severus Snape's character when they say that he's nothing but an asshole and Death Eater who bullies children and did horrible things.
Did he do horrible things? Yeah. And did he bully children? Yeah. Was he an asshole? Yeah. Did his death and guilt relieve him of blame and responsibility? No.
But he was more than just an asshole. He had his reasons, no matter how shitty they may be. And even though his reasons are shitty, I think he at least deserves some consideration. Why? He made most of his shitty decisions as a child. An abused, discriminated against child. Think of it like this:
Meets Lily after ten years of abuse at the hands of his muggle father
At 11, is separated from Lily and is put into a notoriously discriminated-against house
Is (unfairly) antagonized by James Potter and the Marauders (while I do admit that yes, he probably gave back as good as he got, he couldn't have done that until at least his 2nd year because he was raised without magic. he also did nothing to cause the bullying in the first place [as far as I know, correct me if wrong] )
Was bullied and abused up until 5th (?) year
Is humiliated and sexually harassed (because yes, threatening to take off a peer's pants is sexual harassment in my opinion) and lashes out at Lily during this time of intense humiliation and is promptly abandoned by her
Is almost murdered by Sirius Black who receives no consequences
Goes on to join the Death Eaters at after years of being an abused outcast and stereotyped as nothing but a slimy Death Eater
Is then forced to become the potions professor at Hogwarts
1-2 years later, he turns traitor against Voldemort (around 18-19)
The only person he's ever had care for him in his entire life dies
He's only 19-20 when Voldemort is vanquished. I'd say that it's safe to assume that he never got help/support/closure surrounding anything he went through. As far as I'm aware, there's not a single person within the entire series who is shown to support Snape, which leads me to believe that no one ever told him to get help after the first war, and considering his life up until then, he most likely didn't know to get help. He spent the rest of his life doing a job he hated and was forced into, was a spy, and was split between two powerful and dangerous masters.
With all this in mind, I'm unashamedly a Snape supporter (not an apologist, there's a difference). He was an ass who did horrible things but there's more to him then that. The students he taught didn't deserve his ire, and he did and watched horrible things be done, but he's so much more than a Death Eater, and his background and potential to be more than a spy is so interesting to look at and think about.
Edit: A reblogger has mentioned that in the books, James say's he'll remove Snape's pants. In England, 'pants' refers to underwear, and that we never actually find out if James did that. This definitely sexual harassment.
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danpuff-ao3 · 1 year
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violent ask game... 8, 10 and 12 pls? :)
Also... don't be scared, fandom is not half as violent as people imply... most of the time :)
Hello there! Thanks for these! 😄
8.) common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about
Hmmm! My mind sort of immediately jumps to anti-shipping 😂 That's the biggest thing I would say is common to see that I would also call wrong. The only thing people's reading/writing preferences tell you is that they enjoy reading or writing that thing. That's it. No one's a bad person for reading/writing content that makes you uncomfortable.
10.) worst part of fanon
Gosh. Partly I think confusing fanon for canon but, specifically, when people are wrong and want to argue about it. Now I will admit I'm a big lover of "Snape as Draco's godfather." I know some people don't like it, and I understand why they don't, but I will eat it up like candy! However: I know it's not canon. Also: I'm not gonna fight anyone about it. AND: on the off chance I did spout nonsense and found out I was wrong, I wouldn't double down. I'd go fact check myself and be like "oops my bad, you right." It's bad enough when people wanna get up in arms over fandom of all things, but it's worse when you're doing it when you're WRONG.
12.) the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them
SNAPE. SNAPE. SEV-ER-US SNAPE.
This feels weird because I'm obviously in the Snapedom and am surrounded by much Snape love, but...I feel like he's a character people either love or hate with very little in between.
I stumble upon Snaters in the wild and get my feelings hurt because Severus Snape was my first love. (I read the books when I was like 7 and it was love at first sight, okay?) (And I turn 31 on Monday, if that tells you anything.)
Reddit post: "List of Reasons Snape is the WORST" me: yeah I know, don't you see why I love him??
For me it's sort of twofold. The best reason I can probably sell people with is that he's a complex character. The complexity gets lost a bit when people are so hellbent on painting the portrait of a "tragic hero" or a "terrible villain." Our man has layers, okay? Like an onion.
Is he nasty and rude and cruel? Yep. Is he also intelligent and passionate and devoted? Also yep. Did he do some really fucked up shit? Yep. Did he also do some really good deeds? Also yep. This man runs the dang spectrum! Join some blood supremacists? Yikes. Die in the war effort to save the world? Okay that part I don't want to talk about, I'm still not over it.
He had horrible, terrible things happen to him. He grew up in poverty. He was in a neglectful, if not abusive environment. He was bullied in school, and sexually assaulted. But he wasn't a "good" victim, see. He wasn't a sweet lil fella. He wasn't fragile; he was sharp. And he wasn't exactly likable; which made all attacks on him seemingly "excusable." So yeah, we can see why he went down a dark path. It's not okay by any means, but surely one can understand it.
And when it came down to it, he changed his mind. A lot of people nowadays can't do that. It's hard to change your ways, and say "hey I was wrong, I'm turning away from this now." But he did. And he put himself in danger to spy on Voldemort. And yeah, this very traumatized dude went on to traumatize other people. Hurt people hurt people, as they say. But he tried. He gave so much of his time and his life to righting his wrongs.
His life was spent in suffering. All the abuse he endured. The disdain. Then his own self-hatred when he realized where he went wrong. And those wounds never healed. He was forever haunted by his pain, and by his mistakes.
Which sort of leads me to my second point: he's not perfect. He's not an easy person to love. But he's so terribly human. He's just a man who was put through the crucible time and again. He wasn't perfect. He never became this handsome, flawless gentleman. There is so much to him! There is enough to judge and hate, sure, but there's also plenty to love. And this is such a strong case of....people aren't all good or bad. His good and his bad are both so clear! And I can't get enough of it, I stg. I love this man. Truly just adore him.
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ladykardasi · 2 years
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Why ladies love Severus Snape: A detailed primer. (chock full of spoilers, in case you care)
So I was sitting around playing Marry/Fuck/Kill with the Potterverse and was like “I’d totally fuck Snape, obviously.” Then it occurred to me that, among the smorgasbord of cute young boys, why would the “obvious” sexual choice be a gnarly old goth who’s a dick to everyone
Initially, it doesn’t seem to make much sense, since, in the novels, even though he’s a fairly complex character, there’s not really a drop of sex on him and he’s mostly described as being mean and ugly. In spite of this, HP fandom is bursting at the seams with ladies who are hot and bothered for Snape. Some fervently embrace it, others feel strangely confused about it, but it is nonetheless true that ladies love cool Snape, and-- fear not-- I’m going to tell you why in a convenient 5 point format:
1. Alan Rickman’s Voice
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A huge portion of Snape lust can be simply attributed to the casting of Alan Rickman in the movies. While Alan Rickman is an average-looking dude and kinda over-the-hill, it is an anecdotally observed phenomenon that the timbre and tempo of Alan Rickman’s voice triggers some sort of primal mating instinct in females. Reviewers—female ones, that is-- have used all sorts of metaphors for Alan Rickman’s voice: Velvet, silk, chocolate, red wine…basically, stuff that ladies love. Have you ever listened to audio of Alan Rickman reading stories? Well I have, and I cannot tell you a single plot point of any of those stories because all I could think about is having hot sex with Alan Rickman who is old enough to be my father and not at all my type.
Guys don’t get it (which I hypothesize is why he tends to be cast as a villain in guy movies and a romantic object in chick movies). It would seem you have to have a vagina in order to experience the aphrodisiac qualities of Alan Rickman’s voice. It’s almost a rite of passage into womanhood: You get your period, you have your first kiss, and you have the first time you go see a movie with Alan Rickman in it and leave feeling all funny, thinking “wow, that guy is such a… um… good actor.” because Alan Rickman’s voice just totally made sweet dirty love to your ear holes.
So now, thanks to the Harry Potter movie franchise, there is a whole new generation of adolescent girls who hear things like this and then feel all strange and confused about their inappropriate longing to make out with a guy practically old enough to be their grandfather. Fear not, young ladies: You can’t help it. It’s just science.
2. He’s dark and Mysterious
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This one is so obvious as to almost be cliché. It's the same reason chicks dig vampires. Ladies often respond to strong emotions and fear and confusion can be strong emotions. If you combine this with an initial attraction, a young lady who doesn’t know any better can easily presume that maybe she’s madly in love with a guy just because he’s a little scary and confusing (See also: Twilight). (here I just want to add Damon Salvatore)
So let’s look at Snape: Is he dark? Yes. Along with the severe black outfit, he’s got a titillating air of menace and danger. Mysterious? Definitely. Is he a good guy? Is he a bad guy? Where do his loyalties lie? Does anyone really know what he’s up to? So many questions! How desperately we ladies want to uncover his secrets! The “scary and confusing” factor, aside from being exciting, can also totally disrupt a ladies sense of control over a situation, which can also be stimulating if attraction is involved (which it obviously is because, duh, Alan Rickman’s voice). Leading us to…
3. The whole S&M vibe
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It is not a mere coincidence that the interwebs contain about ten million smutty fanfics about what transpires when Snape keeps students after class for detention. Consult a list of the top ten female sex fantasies and you will see “being dominated” and “teacher/student” sitting right next to each other. The character of Severus Snape is a teacher… A very strict teacher. When he tells you to do something, you do it. These kind of power/control fantasies are pretty common (and hot). Add “dark and mysterious” and the wanton suggestiveness of Alan Rickman’s voice into the mix and you’ve just created a perfect storm of female masturbation material. Under these circumstances, having Snape say lines like “I shall attempt to penetrate your mind and you shall attempt to resist me” is almost too much to deal with.
4. He’s a jerk
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We’ve all heard the old saw “Women don’t like nice guys… they like jerks” usually being muttered by some jerk who thinks he’s a nice guy. The truth is that women DO like nice guys, BUT, they also like jerks sometimes. As someone who’s dated my fair share of sociopaths, I’ll try to shed some light on this for you.
One thing to establish is that most women don’t like jerks because they want to be treated badly. Rather, they want the guy who’s a jerk to everyone but them. They’re hoping for the victory of biting through his hard candy shell and getting to his sweet tootsie roll center. Jerks possess the alluring qualities of power and confidence… although usually taken to a dysfunctional level. Since most of us have to be nice most of the time, the jerk can also provide a vicarious, liberating thrill as he brazenly breaks all the rules of social propriety.
So when Snape goes around being an asshole and not taking anyone’s shit, it’s actually kind of a turn-on. (Some women also labor under delusions that they can “reform” the jerk, although this is usually a recipe for disaster. )
If I may, however, give some advice to the youth of America, it’s this: Don’t have relationships with jerks. I’m not saying you can’t have hot flings with the occasional jerk in your experimental youth, because, truthfully, they ARE pretty exciting in the short term, but any guy who’s a jerk to everyone else will eventually be a jerk to you. Trust me. To put it in HP terms: fuck all the Slytherins you want, but if you want to get serious, find a nice Hufflepuff.
5. He’s all tortured and misunderstood and crying on the inside and shit.
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Okay, so maybe after a long day of antagonizing Harry Potter, insulting his students and generally sneering and being curt, Snape goes down to his room in the dungeon, turns on The Cure’s “Disintegration,” and cries while hugging his pillow, because deep down inside he’s all wounded and sensitive.
Remember what I said in the last bit about the tootsie roll center? Well Snape’s is a doozy. He came from an abusive, neglectful home, got bullied in school and then watched as his BFF/love of his life kicked him to the curb and married the guy who bullied him. Now she’s dead and he feels responsible, so he’s sworn to save her son’s ass from Voldemort even though he partly hates him because he looks like the dude who pantsed him in high school. Meanwhile, everyone just thinks he’s a dick because of the cold, stoic façade he’s constructed to hide his inner turmoil. But he’s secretly doing good…GOOD, DAMN IT! So much heartache! So much angst! So much wounded inner child desperately needing the right woman to hug his pain away!
Chicks often dig romantic fantasies of being the special, insightful one to understand the misunderstood guy, thus breaking through his misanthropic exterior and being rewarded with all of his ardent, pent-up passion. Combined with the Jerk factor, this would seem to present a situation where you could have your hot, rough, pinned-against-the-wall sex and your sweet butterfly kisses, too. In real life, this typically doesn’t result in anything but a dysfunctional relationship, but it seems pretty sexy on paper.
In Summary:
Okay, so we’ve got a dark and mysterious guy with an air of danger and a dominating personality who’s in a position of authority. He’s a total jerk and doesn’t take anyone’s shit, but it’s only because he’s all emo on the inside. Top that off with a voice that makes EVERY DAMN THING sound erotic and BAM: Ladies love Snape.
And so I hope that this sheds some light on why I would obviously fuck him… although I’m totally marrying Hagrid…and killing Peter Pettigrew. That guy is worthless.
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Hot takes about Severus Snape are a wierdly decent glimpse into how a person with progressive values analyses things. Literally every time someone talks about Snape, it’s like this tiny window into how one-dimentionally people actually think.
Recently saw a twitter post that was a fantastic example. Here’s how it goes (paraphrasing):
Person A:“Snape is POC and Queer coded, that’s why you guy’s hate him uwu lol.”
Person B: “Actually I hate him because he was mean and abusive to children under his care uwu but go off I guess lol”
Both of these takes are designed to be dramatic and/or reactionary. They each use partial truths to paint very broad strokes. These are get-em-in-one-hit quips. This is virtue signalling, if you’ll excuse that loaded phrase. Nobody had a substantial conversation, but now everyone who sees their statement knows the high ground they took.
At least a hundred other people chimed in to add their own little quippy hot takes into play, none of which add anything significant, but clearly made everyone feel very highly of themselves.
So many layers of nuance and complex analysis is completely lost in this kind of discussion. On tumblr, you get more of this kind of bullshit, but you don’t have a word count limit, so you guys just spew endless mountains of weak overblown evidence backing up your bullshit arguments, none of which was really about engaging in a real conversation anyway.
Here’s the thing about Snape.
He is a childhood domestic abuse victim. His abuser is a muggle.
He becomes a student at a magical school that takes him away from his abuser and immediately instills in him the idea that being a part of this magical world is a badge of self-worth, empowerment, and provides safety and security - provided that he keeps in line.
There is a war is being waged in that world over his right to exist (he is a half blood).
He is a marginalized person within the context of the narrative, forced to constantly be in the same living space as the children of his own oppressors who are being groomed and recruited into a hate group militia (the pureblood slytherins). They are in turn trying to do the same to him.
He is marginalized person bullied by children who are also part of his oppressor group, but who have “more liberal” leanings and aren’t direct about why he’s being targeted (the mauraders are all purebloods, Sirius, who was the worst offender, was raised in a bigoted household, the same one that produced Bellatrix.).
He had a crush on a girl who is a muggleborn, and therefore she is considered even lesser than him and carries a stigma to those who associate with her. That girl was his only real friend. In his entire life.
For both Snape and Lily, allying themselves to a pureblood clique within their own houses would be a great way of shielding themselves from a measure of the bigotry they were probably facing. There would have been obvious pressure from those cliques to disconnect with one and other.
Every other person who associates with Snape in his adulthood carries some sort of sociopolitical or workplace (or hate cult) baggage with their association. Some of them will physically harm and/or kill him if he steps out of line. He hasn’t at any point had the right environment to heal and adjust from these childhood experiences. Even his relationship with Dumbledore is charged with constant baggage, including the purebloods who almost killed him during their bullying getting a slap on the wrist, the werewolf that almost killed him as a child being placed in an authority position over new children, etc. Dumbledore is canonically manipulative no matter his good qualities, and he has literally been manipulating Snape for years in order to cultivate a necessary asset in the war.
He is a person who is not in the stable mental state necessary to be teaching children, whom has been forced to teach children. While also playing the role of double agent against the hate group militia, the one that will literally torture you for mistakes or backtalk or just for fun. The one that will torture and kill him if he makes one wrong move.
Is the math clicking yet? From all of this, it’s not difficult to see how everything shitty about Snape was cultivated for him by his environment. Snape was not given great options. Snape made amazingly awful choices, and also some amazingly difficult, courageous ones. Snape was ultimately a human who had an extremely bad life, in which his options were incredibly grim and limited.
In fact, pretty much every point people make about how shitty Snape is as a person makes 100% logical sense as something that would emerge from how he was treated. Some if it he’s kind of right about, some of it is the inevitable reality of suffering, and some of it is part of the cycle of abuse and harm.
Even Snape’s emotional obsession with Lily makes logical sense when you have the perspective that he literally has no substantial positive experiences with other human beings that we know of, and he has an extreme, soul destroying guilt complex over her death. Calling him an Incel mysoginist nice guy projects a real-world political ideology and behavior that does not really apply to the context of what happened to him and her.
Even Snape’s specific little acts of cruelty to certain students is a reflection of his own life experiences. He identifies with Neville; more specifically, he identifies his own percieved emotional weaknesses in his childhood in Neville. There’s a very sad reason there why he feels the urge to be so harsh.
Snape very clearly hates himself, in a world where everyone else hates him, too. Imagine that, for a second. Imagine total internal and external hatred, an yearning for just a little bit of true connection. For years. Imagine then also trying to save that world, even if it’s motivated by guilt. Even if nobody ever knows you did it and you expect to die a miserable death alone.
There are more elements here to consider, including the way Rowling described his looks (there may be something in there re: ugliness and swarthy stereotyping). These are just the things that stand out the most prominently to me.
J.K. Rowling is clearly also not reliable as an imparter of moral or sociopolitical philosophies. I don’t feel that her grasp of minority experiences is a solid one, considering how she picks and chooses who is acceptable and who is a threat.
All of that said, this is a logically consistent character arc. Within the context of his narrative, Snape is a marginalized person with severe PTSD and emotional instability issues who has absolutely no room available to him for self-improvement or healing, and never really has. And yes, he’s also mean, and caustic, and verbally abusive to the students. He’s also a completey miserable, lonely person.
There are elements in his character arc that mirror real world experiences quite well. If nothing else, Rowling is enough of an emotional adult to recognise these kinds of things and portray something that feels authentic.
In my opinion, it’s not appropriate to whittle all this down by comparing him directly to the real world experiences of marginalized groups - at least if you are not a part of the group you are comparing him to. There have been many individuals who have compared his arc to their own personal experiences of marginalization, and that is valid. But generally speaking, comparing a white straight dude to people who are not that can often be pretty offensive. This is not a valuable way to discuss either subject.
Also, I believe that while it’s perfectly okay to not like Snape as a character, many of the people who act like Person B are carrying Harry’s childhood POV about Snape in their hearts well into their own adulthood. And if nothing else, Rowling was attempting to say something here about how our perspectives (should) grow and change as we emotionally mature.  She doesn’t have to be a good person herself to have expressed something true about the world in this instance, and since this story is a part of our popular culture, people have a right to feel whatever way they do about this story and it’s characters.
The complexity of this particular snapshot of fictionalized marginalization, and what it reveals about the human experience, cannot be reduced down to “he’s an abuser so he’s not worth anyone’s time/you are bad for liking him.”
And to be honest, I think that it reveals a lot about many of us in progressive spaces, particularly those of us who less marginalized but very loud about our values, that we refuse to engage with these complexities in leu of totally condemning him. Particularly because a lot of the elements I listed above are indeed reflected in real world examples of people who have experienced marginalization and thus had to deal with the resulting emotional damage, an mental illness, and behavior troubles, and bad decisions. Our inability to address the full scope of this may be a good reflection of how we are handling the complexity of real world examples.
Real people are not perfect angels in their victimhood. They are just humans who are victims, and we all have the capacity to be cruel and abusive in a world where we have been given cruelty and abuse. This is just a part of existing. If you cannot sympathise with that, or at least grasp it and aknowledge it and respect the people who are emotionally drawn to a character who refects that, then you may be telling on yourself to be honest.
To be honest, this is especially true if you hate Snape but just really, really love the Mauraduers. You have a right to those feelings, but if you are moralizing this and judging others for liking Snape, you’ve confessed to something about how you’ve mentally constructed your personal values in a way I don’t think you’ve fully grasped yet.
I have a hard time imagining a mindset where a story like Snape’s does not move one to empathy and vicarious grief, if I’m honest. I feel like some people really just cannot be bothered to imagine themselves in other people’s shoes, feeling what they feel and living like they live. I struggle to trust the social politics of people who show these kinds of colors, tbh.
But maybe that’s just me.
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lovely-jily · 3 years
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just a few reasons why i hate severus snape
alright, sorry to start any beef but i have a lot of feelings regarding snape
so here are the following reasons that i hate the sorry excuse of a man, just off the top of my head:
- to put it quite plainly, i think that james and lily would’ve lived (or at least lived longer) if it weren’t for snape. he overheard the prophecy and decided to be a little bitch and tattle to voldemort. if he hand’t told voldemort about what he had heard then voldemort probably wouldn't have gone after the potters, meaning that they probably wouldn’t have died. read that again. severus snape is the reason that harry potter was an orphan, and he still had the AUDACITY to be such a dick to harry. 
- lets say that voldemort didn't go after james and lily... snape most likely wouldn’t have ever turned against him, as lily wouldn’t have been targeted. he would’ve remained one of the most loyal death eaters. the same applies to if voldemort went after neville and his parents. i can’t see snape being a good person because he didn’t give two shits about all the other murder and torture of muggleborns. he only cared about himself and his gross obsession with a woman who rejected him years and years earlier. 
- he was so immature. i mean, bullying harry only because he reminded him of his childhood bully? in no way do i condone james’s behavior, but honestly grow up. just because he was picked on as a child does not give him the right to bully other children AS A GROWN ADULT. i mean, for gods sake that’s so messed up. 
-he outed remus because he didn’t get his way, knowing it would ruin his life but just wanted to be a petty lil bitch. what the hell. he did that deliberately knowing the consequences and that the chances of it ruining remus’s life were high, but he was mad that he didn’t get his way, so he threw a tantrum like a child. (for the record, at this point he knew that sirius was innocent and didn’t deserve the dementors kiss or all those years in azkaban, but he was still petty and bitter because they hated each other in school. grow tf up you’re like 34 now dude get over it)
- not only did he harass students and played intense favoritism, he was neville’s biggest fear. neville’s parents were tortured into insanity by death eaters and his family treated him like shit, i mean he has a shit ton of trauma before coming to hogwarts, but severus snape was his biggest fear??? are you kidding me???? do you know how FUCKED up it is that SEVERUS SNAPE, his TEACHER, was his biggest fear???? 
- um do we even need to get into how death eaters are an allegory for literal nazi’s and white supremacists??? like do i need to elaborate on why it isn’t appropriate to glorify any of the people who were involved in any way with that??? i don't care that “hE wAs SoRrY!!!!” and that he “cHaNgEd HiS wAyS!!!” He didn’t turn against voldemort because he was bothered by the what was pretty much a genocide of an entire blood race. oh no, if that were the case then snape would’ve betrayed voldemort long before he did. snape had an issue with the fact that voldemort was targeting the woman he loved, not an innocent life. so forgive me for not tolerating people for glorifying essentially a white supremacist. i see too much of that in my own country already. 
i suppose that i just really hate the glorification of the man. i completely do not understand it, and quite frankly i see a lot of similarities in the way that trump supporters glorify trump, to the way that some snape apologist glorify snape.
i understand that he is an interesting character, and you can’t argue that he isn’t. he’s complex and i understand the thinking behind that, but why or how the hell would you even want to excuse the behavior of a pure blood supremacist. again, i see too much of that in my country already. 
the fact that so many snape apologists have to excuse every single thing that snape did and can’t admit anything that he did wrong is so messed up. i don’t give two shits that he loved lily, love doesn’t excuse being a shitty, fucked up person. i've been in love before. but i can still admit when i wasn’t a good person and when i did some pretty messed up things. love does not excuse behavior. someone who was a horrible person loved me once, and never tried to treat me poorly. just because that person loved me, doesn't make it okay that he was a super horrible person. and just because he treated me well, doesn’t mean that he was a good person. he was an asshole to everyone else, especially marginalized groups of people (*cough cough* like snape), so i still think he’s a shitty person. even though he treated me well and loved me. if i ever catch anyone glorifying him, even though he’s matured a bit, i get pissed. because love doesn’t excuse behavior and just because he loved me doesn’t mean that he wasn’t a shitty person. the same applies to snape.
if jkr (fuck her too tbh) wanted me to like snape then she should’ve come up with a better character arc than “lol i wanted to bang ur mom harry”
sorry for this messy rant, i know that it probably doesn’t make a lot of sense and it’s super disorganized but i just have a lot of feelings regarding snape. this is only the tip of the iceberg and the few thoughts on the top of my head at the moment. feel free to add more reasons because i know i missed some. 
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Everybody Talks about “Albus Severus” but can we talk about LILY luna Potter and JAMES Sirius Potter? Dude, Harry has a trouble letting go His parents over All The series and Then he goes AND puts their names to His son and daugther? Ginny please, stop your Husband for naming your child After dead People.
I DON'T KNOW IT'S REALLY UPSETTING TO ME, GIVE YOUR KIDS THEIR OWN INDIVIDUALISM POTTER.
Anon, are you me? Did I sleepwalk and write this post myself? Because this is exactly, exactly how I feel, down to a T. Literally, the name Albus Severus bothers me the least out of the names that Harry gave his children. I know that it’s a meme that they’re horrible people who didn’t deserve to be honored that way...but I really don’t care about that? Even as someone who despises both of them (In particular, my feelings toward Dumbledore are well documented) this didn’t bother me because it was a clear part of Harry’s character arc that he recognized their sins and chose to forgive them. 
But you know what else was a part of his character arc, and a damn important part in my opinion? Letting go of his parents. Because you’re right. He was low-key obsessed with their deaths. The Mirror of Erised proves it. His reaction to the Dementors proves it. Harry had a death wish. That’s why his Hallow of choice was the Resurrection Stone. There’s even a line in the book where Harry talks about living with dead people, and realizes that he’s scaring Hermione. She knows. Of course she knows, just like she recognized his hero complex, aka his “saving people” thing. But it was such a huge part of Harry’s conclusion that he actually died, and had the chance to make it permanent...but he chose not to. Then he decided not to go looking for the Resurrection Stone. He also had the chance to keep the Elder Wand, another previous obsession, and instead chose to repair the Phoenix Wand. In the final scene in Dumbledore’s Office, Harry has accepted the death of his parents and moved on. He’s finally chosen reality over fantasy. 
Which is why it’s such a shame, such a crying shame, to see him take that step backward in the epilogue. I don’t hate the epilogue the way several Potterheads do, but in general I do think it wasn’t necessary. (”I’ve had enough trouble for a lifetime.” was the perfect final line, I’m just saying.) and that it introduced a lot of weird ideas. Including this strange obsession with having all the next generation kids inherit names. You want to know why I don’t care that Dumbledore and Snape didn’t “deserve” that honor? Because I believe the whole concept of “honoring” people that way is stupid and toxic. Ginny really should step in and put Harry on some kind of leash because while it’s totally in character for him to do this, someone should have stopped him at some point. Hermione and Ron prove yet again that they would be the best parents because they’re the only ones who don’t do this. 
Let! Children! Have! Their! Own! Names! This isn’t even exclusive to Harry Potter, though I think this series popularized it. When a character dies and then later another character names their child after said character...I just get so tired of it. For my Orphan Black fans out there, I was literally praying that Helena wouldn’t go this route but of course she did. For my Timeless fans out there, I know there’s a lot to be upset about with the canon finale, but the babies ever after trope combined with the reveal of their names? Shoot me now. 
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Phantasma Magica Ch. 3
STORY SUMMARY Clockwork and the Observants send Danny to Hogwarts on a special mission. But, cryptic as ever, that Old Stopwatch never actually told him what would happen on it!!! “All you need to do right now, Daniel, is stay focused on your mission. And remember, the-” “‘The Lions with the time-turner, lightning-bolt scar, and hair like fire are friends; watch out for the rat; and the black dog is not a threat.’ Yeah, you’ve only repeated that a few dozen times today.”
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Hagrid stood in the center of the room, wringing his hands. Lupin stood next to Hagrid, while Dumbledore sat behind his desk, hands folded underneath his chin. Calm.
He and Lupin were the only ones who were.
At the news that the phantasm had escaped last night, the four Heads of House and those guarding the phantasm, Hagrid and Lupin, had been summoned to the Headmaster’s office to discuss what should be done. McGonagall stood near the wall to the right of the Headmaster’s desk. Snape brooded in the shadows on the wall opposite her, the area around him avoided by the other teachers. Professors Sprout and Flitwick sat on differently sized stools – a normal sized one for Sprout, and a very tall one, with rungs like a ladder leading to the seat, for Flitwick – at a table laid out with now forgotten biscuits and tea.
Forgotten because it hadn’t taken long before Hagrid’s midnight snack – the cookies – was discovered to have been laced with sleep-potion, and, unfortunately… Hagrid didn’t know who had sent them.
Sprout rose from her seat near the wall, “You ate something that you didn’t know-” “I was hungry! An’ who woulda suspected- I mean, I recognized th’ owl! It was from ‘Ogwart’s Owlery!” “What’s happened has happened,” the Headmaster interrupted, “The main issue is what should be done now that it has. Remus, as the one most familiar with phantasms, do you have any advice?” “I do.” Lupin stepped forward, as Hagrid shuffled nearer the door. “Now that the creature has escaped, I doubt we will see it again. With how notoriously private phantasms are known to be, it’s shocking that one came here at all.” “Do you have any idea what might have drawn it here?” Flitwick asked, the extremely short teacher shifting in his seat and adjusting his grip on his cup nervously. He still didn’t drink. “Unfortunately, no. We really don’t know much about the species. And this would have been an excellent chance to study one up close. But even still, with no one having been hurt, this glimpse was a lucky peak into-”
Snape cut in with his usual sneer, “What about the students?” There was a small pause – the tension rising in anticipation of the forbidding teacher’s next words. “What about them, Severus?” Dumbledore asked, unreadable. Snape’s black cloak detached from the shadows as his menacing figure stepped forward. “Those cookies were likely sent to Hagrid by a student – or group of students – that wanted to get a closer look at the dangerous creature,” his sneer deepened, “And I believe we all have a few guesses as to who those students likely were.” The teachers exchanged glances, but no one dared look at Snape. While they didn’t agree with his attitude, they couldn’t deny the probability.
Dumbledore spoke, “Even if that is the case, we have no way of identifying exactly which students – if it was a student – are responsible. However,” he cut Snape off, raising his hand to silence him before he could protest, “I agree that the students need to be made aware of the consequences of such an action. So I will leave it up to each Head of House to deal with the issue as you see fit among each of your students.” They nodded, the tension dropping slightly. It was a fair compromise. Pacified, Snape returned to his spot near the wall.
“Remus, since it is unclear why the creature came here, I believe we should have a plan in the event that the phantasm should return.” “Well…” he thought for a moment, “The best thing we could do, I believe, is teach the students a basic spell for defending themselves if they run into a phantasm… and have each staff member trained and ready to help capture the creature.” Dumbledore nodded. And thus, with plans for an extra lesson for each of the DADA classes, the meeting ended – with none of the adults any the wiser that an invisible listener had been floating above them.
If he hadn’t decided to follow Sprout (And, really? The professor who taught magical gardening’s last name was “Sprout?” Talk about fate…) in order to burn their supply of blood blossoms so they couldn’t trap him again, he never would have found the Headmaster’s Office – even if he somehow had heard about this meeting! The layout of this… school? … ah, let’s be real, castle- was going to take some time for Danny to get used to. If he ever did. Changing staircases, rooms that appeared and disappeared… Living in it was like playing hide-and-seek in a magical funhouse from his nightmares – where getting caught meant getting sent to jail! He wouldn’t have stayed at all, except…
‘The Lions with the time-turner, lightning-bolt scar, and hair like fire are friends’
When Clockwork gave you a hint, you listened. ‘Cause if you didn’t… Well. They were his only lead to completing his mission. So he stayed close. Which, despite the infuriatingly complex architecture, wasn’t hard. After filling him in on their history with this “Tom Riddle” (or “Voldemort,” or whatever), Danny understood why they wanted to help him find and destroy the random objects Clockwork had sent him after – the “horcruxes.” Apparently, he was a really bad dude (no surprise) who tried to conquer the wizarding world so that “pure-blooded” wizards could rule over “muggles and mudbloods” (a.k.a. non-magic humans and those born from them, respectively). He was responsible for mass-genocide and, more specifically, the murder of both of Harry’s parents. … So, in other words, he was magic-Hitler!
Granted, there wasn’t much the Trio could actually do, but he wasn’t going to refuse the help, either. However, even with their help… They were his only lead. His ONLY one.
HOW WAS HE SUPPOSED TO FIND THESE THINGS?!
Okay. Clockwork did say it would take him three years. But that didn’t make it much less frustrating! And so, after exploring as much of the castle as his brain could take (“Who designed this freaking place!?!”), Danny resorted to following his three companions around. In addition to his frustration, he’d gotten rather bored, and was curious what magic classes were like.
DADA, he decided, was kinda interesting. Snape’s treatment of his students was… way more than irritating, and since there wasn’t anything he could do about it, either, he steered clear of Potions. Muggle Studies was amusing – he could see why Hermione, who was raised as a muggle, enjoyed it. Divination… He couldn’t tell for sure whether the practice was possible or not, but the learning conditions for the students probably weren’t helping any of them. Suffice it to say that he was grateful he didn’t need to breathe, or he might have gotten a headache from the fumes.
Out of all of them, Care of Magical Creatures seemed like the least effective of all. As far as Danny (and Ron, who moaned to him about it) could tell, there was no benefit to knowing what they were currently learning: how to take care of flobberworms. So that class Danny opted to not invisibly attend. Especially with how close it would’ve taken him to the dementors. One class that really caught Danny’s interest, though, was Astronomy! It was (before the accident) Danny’s lifelong dream to become an astronaut! So of course, Danny asked Ron and Hermione if he could help them with that homework.
The three were together in the boy’s dormitory, the door locked (couldn’t have anybody see him…), when someone knocked. “It’s Harry!” came a voice from behind the door. Ron let him in. A soft roar of voices whooshed into the room behind him, returning to a dull white noise once closed. “What’s going on down there?” Hermione asked, moving some papers to clear a spot for him. Harry monotoned, “First Hogsmeade weekend is going to be at the end of October. Halloween,” before plopping down, pulling out his own chart dispiritedly. “Harry, I’m sure you’ll be able to go next time,” Hermione tried to comfort him, “They’re bound to catch Black soon. He’s been sighted once already.” “Black’s not fool enough to try anything in Hogsmeade.” Ron rejoined them, sitting down with a soft thud next to Harry, excitedly. “Ask McGonagall if you can go this time, Harry. The next one might not be for ages–” Hermione, mortified, cut in, “Ron! Harry’s supposed to stay in school–” “He can’t be the only third year left behind,” Ron bulldozed. “Ask McGonagall, go on, Harry–” “Yeah, I think I will,” Harry said, his mood lifting.
Danny, who hadn’t been staying close enough to the wizards to overhear their gossip (they’d notice the chill, and staying invisible long enough for even a single class was draining enough!), asked, “Uh… who’s ‘Black’?” Unfortunately, he was only able to half-pay attention to their explanation (something about this “Sirius Black” escaping prison and being after Harry – THAT got his attention) because he was distracted by Crookshanks. The cat was stalking closer and closer to Ron’s bag, the end of his bushy tail twitching. What was he hunting…? Not knowing Scabbers was in Ron’s bag, Danny didn’t stop the cat when it pounced.
“OY!” Ron roared, seizing his bag as Crookshanks sank four sets of claws deep inside it and began tearing ferociously. “GET OFF, YOU STUPID ANIMAL!” Ron tried to pull the bag away from Crookshanks, but he clung on, spitting and slashing. “Ron, don’t hurt him!” squealed Hermione. Danny grabbed Crookshanks around the middle and turned him intangible, phasing the bag right out of his claws. Hermione took him, the cat’s limbs still flailing, while Ron pulled the shivering Scabbers out of the torn bag by the tail. “Look at him!” he said furiously to Hermione, dangling Scabbers in front of her. “He’s skin and bone! You keep that cat away from him!” “Crookshanks doesn’t understand it’s wrong!” Hermione’s voice shook, “All cats chase rats, Ron!”
Danny floated, unknowingly watching a feud that would continue throughout the rest of that year. Seeing the malnourished, frightened rat dangling there did remind him, though… “… watch out for the rat…” ‘I should… keep an eye out for Scabbers.’ Danny thought to himself, deciding it’d be best to look after the rat’s health.
Later, he heard from the Trio that Professor McGonagall had told Harry, more or less, that “the rules were the rules” so she couldn’t allow him to go to Hogsmeade without a form signed by a guardian. As Danny understood it, “Hogsmeade” was a small town nearby the school that had some fun shops (and other attractions), and during these special weekends the students were allowed to leave the school grounds to visit it. With nothing better to do (and since he couldn’t get past the dementors to get to the town himself, either), Danny cheered Harry up a bit by asking for a tour of Hogwarts. “I’ve explored it on my own, but uh…” Harry didn’t need any more explanation than that.
So, after saying goodbye to Ron and Hermione, Harry started showing the phantasm around the castle, whispering to the invisible spirit to try not to draw attention. He showed Danny several hidden passages, explained the moving staircases, and answered his questions as best he could.
This was the first time Danny had been alone with the younger boy. And it emphasized something he had begun to notice about him. That Harry somehow felt… different from the others. If everyone’s soul has a specific “scent,” then it was like Harry’s was somehow… tainted. But it was so faint… ‘I’m probably just… It’s probably nothing.’
They’d been walking for a while (stopped once by an extremely annoyed janitor named “Filch” … ‘Are their names changed to fit their jobs in magic-land?’) when, on their way to some place called the “Owlery,” a voice from inside one of the rooms called out.
“Harry?” Professor Lupin was looking at him from around his office door. “What are you doing? Where are Ron and Hermione?” “Hogsmeade,” Harry replied – a bit put-out by the reminder. “Ah,” Lupin considered Harry for a moment. “Why don’t you come in? I’ve just taken delivery of a grindylow for our next lesson.” “A what?” Harry took him up on his offer, intrigued by the strange creature pulling faces against the glass of its tank. Lupin closed the door after him. “Water demon,” said Lupin, “We shouldn’t have much difficulty with him, not after the kappas. The trick is to break his grip. You notice the abnormally long fingers? Strong, but very brittle.” He looked around for his kettle, “Would either of you like a cup of tea?”
Danny froze. Harry stared at the professor, wide-eyed. Lupin chuckled, “Yes, I know. I’ve known since you decided to listen in on my classes, really.” Finding it, he tapped the kettle with his wand, “I’ve only got tea bags, I’m afraid – but I daresay you’ve had enough of tea leaves?” he addressed Harry. Giving in, Danny turned visible and floated into a seat. “I, uh… Do you have hot chocolate?”
Lupin smiled and started on the sugary drink. “American? Interesting-” “Professor, I thought… you were supposed to capture the phantasm if you found it?” Harry asked. “Indeed. But, seeing as he hasn’t harmed anyone, I’m in no rush to imprison an innocent person.” He handed them their drinks, meeting eyes with the glowing teenager. “Though I am curious: may I ask why you came here, Mr. Phantasm?” “It’s, uh, Danny. And-” His mind raced even as he accepted the chipped mug. The trio he knew he could trust, but this teacher? No, he needed an excuse! “-I was curious! About, uh… wizards! And humans in general…” He wasn’t a convincing liar. Lupin hummed quietly, debating whether to pry or not. “Danny” really did seem like a normal teenager – aside, of course, from his appearance, which Lupin wasn’t the type to judge by. To Danny’s luck, Lupin’s thoughts were interrupted by a knock at the door. Snape had arrived with a potion for Lupin, and after Snape left (Danny returning to the visible spectrum to conserve energy), Harry decided to help him by changing the subject.
“Professor, you know that day we fought the boggart?” Lupin sipped the potion, shuddering in disgust. Apparently, it did not taste good. “Yes?” “Why didn’t you let me fight it?” Harry said abruptly. Lupin raised his eyebrows, surprised. “I would have thought that was obvious, Harry.” “Why?” “Well,” Lupin frowned slightly, “I assumed that if the boggart faced you, it would assume the shape of Lord Voldemort.”
Danny had no idea what they were talking about (aside from recognizing the name “Voldemort”), but was extremely grateful to Harry for saving him from that conversation! “Clearly, I was wrong. But I didn’t think it a good idea for Lord Voldemort to materialize in the staffroom. I imagined people would panic.” ‘-Wait… “Materialize?” What?’ Danny started paying closer attention.
“I didn’t think of Voldemort. I–I remembered those dementors.” “I see,” said Lupin thoughtfully, “Well, well… I’m impressed. That suggests that what you fear most of all is – fear. Very wise, Harry.” Harry didn’t know what to say to that, so he sipped his tea, finishing it. Lupin glanced at the clock – and winced. “I’m afraid I need to get back to work, but I’ll see you at the feast later – but may I have a brief word before you go, Danny?” It was the phantasm’s turn to wince. Looked like he didn’t get out of that conversation after all. He should’ve known it wouldn’t work.
His feet on the floor for once, he faced the ragged professor. “I won’t ask why you’re really here,” Danny’s eyes widened. For real?! “However,” Oh. Of course there was a catch. “- in exchange for keeping your secret, I would…” Lupin hesitated, slightly nervous, “- be very grateful if you could tell me more about phantasms?” Danny just blinked at him for a couple seconds. Why was this guy trusting him – just like that!? … Well, whatever. He could figure that out later. ‘Don’t look a gift-horse in the mouth’ right? “Sure! I mean- I don’t know how much help I’ll be, but I’ll, uh… I’ll answer some questions!”
The rest of the day, after Harry finished showing him around, Danny spent finding places he could hide inside of the school: abandoned rooms, a weird network of strangely large pipes in the walls (par for the course at this point), and before he knew it, the Halloween Feast had begun. Since he, y’know, didn’t actually eat human food, Danny wasn’t particularly interested in the feast. The performance by the resident ghosts of the castle was okay, but what really peaked his interest – was the commotion outside the entrance to the Gryffindor Common Room afterwards.
When compared to every other weird thing about Hogwarts so far, the fact that pictures and paintings moved didn’t surprise Danny much more than the ridiculously large pipes; nor did the fact that they talked, or that one of them, literally called “The Fat Lady,” guarded the entrance to the Gryffindors’ living area. What was surprising was that the Lady was missing – and that her portrait had been slashed to ribbons.
“You’ll be lucky!” Peeves, the only poltergeist at the school, cackled from above the crowd. “What do you mean, Peeves?” Dumbledore asked calmly. He had already started a search for the missing Lady. “Ashamed, Your Headship, sir.” His voice retained its air of glee, but he no longer cackled – for even Peeves didn’t dare taunt Dumbledore. “Doesn’t want to be seen. She’s a horrible mess. Saw her running through the landscape up on the fourth floor, sir, dodging between the trees. Crying something dreadful.” His grin widened. “Poor thing.” “Did she say who did it?” the Headmaster asked quietly. “Oh yes, Professorhead,” said Peeves, excited by the panic he was about to cause, “He got very angry when she wouldn’t let him in, you see.” Flipping over to look at him between his legs, he dropped the bomb, “Nasty temper he’s got, that Sirius Black.”
Perhaps it was the tone of Peeves delivery, combined with the ensuing waves of worry from the crowd, but something in Danny slowly twisted at that news.
Danny wanted to protect his friends… Harry was his friend. Black was after Harry… Black was nearby – and a threat. …
… Peeves knew something about Black.
And so, while the wizards shuffled and organized themselves into the Great Hall for the night instead of their usual sleeping quarters, Danny followed Peeves the Poltergeist.
To somewhere where no one else was.
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"If your argument is Snape putting himself at risk to be a mole is what makes him a hero, I’m gonna call bullshit.". Then what do you call continuing to be a spy AFTER Lily died then (which by that point he has NO reason to stay a spy)? What do you call Snape's "Lately those I cannot save" in reply to Dumbledore's "How many people you seen die?". What do you call him allowing his own image to be destroyed by killing Dumbledore on Dumbledore's order?
Let’s take this point by point. (And, I’m sorry, I am not brief.)
“Then what do you call continuing to be a spy AFTER Lilydied then (which by that point he has NO reason to stay a spy)?”
Okay. Hold up. Before I get to the actual idea of Snapespying and what that does/doesn’t mean…why on earth would you think he has no reason to stay a spy??
Let’s assess Snape’s position post-GOF, okay? Voldemort hasnow returned. Half the ol’ Death Eater squad has immediately flocked to hisside. The ones that haven’t because they’re no longer believers (?), or feellike they’ve been disloyal enough in the interim not to be welcome, have fledfor their lives because Voldemort is one vengeful bastard. So here we haveSnape: still unrevealed as an old mole. A teacher inside Hogwarts, Dumbledore’sturf. What are Snape’s options?
Flee into the night and live as a fugitive, hoping no one finds him.
Go join back up with Voldemort
Turn in a blaze of glory, joining Dumbledore’s side in the open
Play his old game as a spy
It’s bad opinions all around, self-preservation-wise. That’swhat happens when you’re a shady ass motherfucker. (1) would likely be veryunappealing for many reasons, and leaves everyone wanting to kill him. (2) isalso unappealing–because you know who elseis a vengeful bastard? Severus damn Snape. And from the second Voldemort wentafter (and then killed) Lily, Snape wuzdone. He had no ties to the Death Eater cause, except for the personal power and validation it seemedto give him. His ties have always been to his own self-interest. Voldemortsevered that self-interest by threatening Lily, and Snape called it dunzo. Thereis no reason for him to change his mind about that now. We know he’s still hung up on Lily. It’s his sick raison d'être. And added bonus: Dumbledore would be after him likea fiend, and likely would straight-uptell Voldie that Snape once spied, and then it’s bye-bye Snape. (3) See abovere: vengeful bastards, where Voldemort would hunt Snape down as a traitor likewhoah. (4) No one wants to kill him. Unless he gets caught. Then Voldemort definitely wants to kill him. But Voldemortalso wants to kill him in basically every other scenario, too. And this way, hegets to remain at Hogwarts, living life as he does, being miserable andbullying students, the great joys of his life.
Now…look. I’m being glib here, and likely I think in realitySnape’s decision had more complexity than just “what’s the best way to save myown hide”…but the idea that there was no reason for him to spy after Lily diedis laughhhhabbbbblllleeeee. Voldemorthad done him wrong. Snape is UNDENIABLY a very selfish, vengeful person. Hewanted that dude destroyed. Moreover,his life was in danger no matter what route he chose, and he found power in hisposition at Hogwarts. I don’t see any reason why he would want to give that up.And even if you’re giving his decision a terribly rosy-eyed view, claiming heturned spy because it was the right thing and he wanted good to prevail overevil…I’m side-eyeing you for that, but even so, I’m back to my originalargument from the last post: Shitty people do good things all the time. Evengood things for the right reasons. That doesn’t make THEM good.
Honestly, that’s the hill I’m really going to live and dieon. I have high doubts that Snape’s motivations for spying were pure and for thecause, because it was the right thing to do, but even if they were: that does not erase the previoustwo decades of being a generally horrible, selfish, abusive motherfucker, who only got on this side of the fight because he was personally manipulated and betrayed. Itjust doesn’t. And so a “heroic”action does not make a hero. It doesn’t even make an anti-hero. It makes…aninteresting character in which to look at the themes of good vs. evil that are prevalentin the book, but which should ultimately leave you at the same point: Snape isnot a hero.
What do you call Snape’s “Lately those I cannot save” inreply to Dumbledore’s “How many people have you seen die?”
I really like this quote because of “lately”. Oohhh, you know, lately. It emphasizes the fact that,once upon a time, Snape was DeathEater who blithely watched men and women die from the wrong side of the goodvs. evil war line and didn’t raise a hand to stop it until it affected himpersonally. Just as, you know, a reminder.
But here we are now, inside the “lately”. And the thing is,I’m actually more inclined to believe this line is a more general reference toHarry, the primary person Snape has been trying to save and has just learned,lol, jokes, Dumbly needs him dead. But to be generous about it, in the courseof his spying throughout OoTP/HBP, I’m sure Snape’s information saved people. Maybethat’s what he means here. Not tugging people out of the way of a ravenous werewolf(lol who did dat?), but saving with his espionage. And I’m sure he did that,not because he valiantly wanted to save these people as individuals, butbecause their lives were bodies on his side in the fight to defeat Voldemort.Snape wanted to defeat Voldemort. Voldemort killed Lily. Snape hated him for killing Lily. Even laterin that EXACT SAME CONVERSATION, when Snape is so horrified about whatDumbledore has done to Harry, when Dumbledore asks if his anger is because hecares for Harry, Snape’s response is LITERALLY “For him?” ACTIVE SCOFF. Then heproduces his patronus. Even Harry, the single person Snape has ACTIVELY BEENATTEMPTING TO SAVE THE MOST, has not come to affect Snape personally. He’s ameans to an end. For Snape, this is ALL ABOUT LILY–or really, this selfish,more-about-him-than-her, tunnel-vision, unhealthy obsession with avenging her. THAT’Shis motivation for everything, his love that’s not even really love because he’s a broken man who doesn’t know what thatmeans. (BUT THAT’S ANOTHER STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY.)
So…what’s the argument? That Snape’s spying may have saved lives, and that makes him a hero? Again, I go back to: motivation,motivation, motivation. His actions may be good, but Snape is not. He can givetwo shits about the collateral damage or collateral victories that go on here.It’s all about him and what isimportant to him.
Selfish, Selfish, Selfish:An Autobiography by Severus Snape.
What do you call him allowing his own image to be destroyedby killing Dumbledore on Dumbledore’s order?
LOL, YO, WHAT IMAGE??
My darling, no one hada good image of Snape. Nooooo onnnnne. If you’re talking about the members ofthe Order of the Phoenix and their ilk believing that Snape betrayed them…like,it wasn’t a far jump. Most of them never trusted him in the first place. So hejust kind of cemented his spot as a dubious character. It was prettyuniversally acknowledged that Snape is a miserable son of a bitch. After Dumbledore’s death, he’sa murderous traitor, miserable son of a bitch. If Snape ever once cared aboutany of these people’s opinions, maybe this would be a valid argument. ExceptSnape cares about no one. So…what?
I think it’s important to remember that even in his timeduring OoTP/HBP where we see Snape as an active member of the Order…this isn’tsomeone who’s looking for community or redemption or even camaraderie-in-a-joint-causefrom the group around him. Snape seemed to give fuck-all about every one of them. He’dbeen living his miserable, isolated life exactly the same way and wasn’tlooking to change it. He was on a mission to defeat Voldemort for his ownreasons. That. Is. Fact.
Sooo…I don’t know. Where does this leave us? I’m back to mysame Hill Point, really: Bad people do good things. That doesn’t automaticallymake them good people. Snape is not a good person.
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Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: James Potter/Lily Evans Potter, James Potter & Lily Evans Potter, Jily - Relationship Characters: Lily Evans Potter, James Potter, Severus Snape, Sirius Black
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It’s been a while since I’ve written anything in this fandom, so seventh year Jily it is. Two (horny) teenagers in love, a jealous ex best friend and a bunch of evil dudes. A conversation that needs to happen, and another one. Two nights in the the (not so) ordinary life of the Head Girl and Boy, Hogwarts class of 1978. Warning: Tropes.
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38 Small But Moving Details That Make Severus Snape One Of The Most Memorable Characters From Harry Potter
Severus Snape was one of the most complex characters in the Harry Potter series. He was a half-blood wizard serving as Potions Master, Defence Against the Dark Arts professor, and Headmaster of the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry as well as a member of the Order of the Phoenix and a Death Eater. His double life played an extremely important role in both of the Wizarding Wars against Lord Voldemort.
But with Harry, Ron, and Hermione taking up most of the spotlight, not everyone is giving Severus the recognition he deserves. So, to shed some light on him and the entire series, potterheads turned to the Internet to cast Lumos on their beloved persona.
#1 Difference With Other Teachers
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#2 He Exhibits Real Emotions
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#3 Petunia Probably Knew Snape
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#4 When Snape And Harry First Meet Eyes, Harry's Scar Hurts. But It's Actually Because Quirrel's Head Is Turned At That Exact Moment, And Lord Voldemort Is Living On The Back Of Quirrel's Head. In Fact, Snape Actually Notices That Harry's Scar Hurts And Turns To Look At Quirrell. He Later Confronts Quirrell Because He's Suspicious Of Him Working With Voldemort
#5 Does Snape Even Sleep
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#6 Harry Refuses To Call Snape “Professor.” In Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows: Part 2 (2011), Harry Refers To Him As “Professor Snape” Once He Has Learned The Truth From The Pensieve
#7 When Snape Snapped Right Back At Umbridge
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#8 In Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Pt. 2, Snape Is Still Helping The Order Of The Phoenix When He Re-Directs Mcgonagall’s Spells To The Death Eaters Behind Him
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#9 This Harry Potter Detail Is Probably Well Known But Has Always Fascinated Me. An “Asphodel” Is A Flower From The Lily Family Meaning “My Regrets Follow You To The Grave”. And Wormwood Means “Absence”. So Snape Was Literally Saying “I Bitterly Regret Lily’s Death”
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#10 Snape's Patronus
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#11 He Knew What Was Going To Happen For So Long
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#12 In The Harry Potter Movies (2001-2011), Snape’s Costume Was The Only One That Never Changed. According To Costume Designer, Jany Temine:"Because, It Was Perfect. When Something Is Perfect You Cannot Change It.” She Joined In Prisoner Of Azkaban And Changed Most Costumes Except Snape’s
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#13 He Is Not Fazed By Insults
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#14 Dude Had Some Sweet Curls
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#15 Snape And Harry Are Meant To Be
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#16 Severus Snape Is Grey
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#17 Quirrell Suggests It Was Hermione's Fire That Distracted Him From Killing Harry During The Quidditch Match. But If You Look Closely, You Can See That Snape's Push Is The Reason Quirrell Falls Down
#18 In Prisoner Of Azkaban, When Sirius Black Breaks Into The Castle, Snape Is Actually The One To Suggest To Dumbledore That They Should Warn Harry About Sirius
#19 In Order Of The Phoenix, Snape Teaches Harry Occlumency And Says A Bunch Of Mean (And Likely True) Stuff About His Dad. It Quickly Becomes Clear He's Provoking Harry In Order To Prove A Point About How He's Vulnerable To Voldemort
#20 Hermione Actually Respects Snape
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#21 Trusts Them With His Life
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#22 Snape Had An Unfortunate Life Bringing
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#23 An Interesting Note About Snape Being Unattractive
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#24 A Matter Of Perspective
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#25 Snape Running To Save A Student
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#26 Snape Is Actually The One To Teach Harry The Spell Expelliarmus, Which Becomes His Signature
#27 After Mcgonagall Reveals That Ginny Weasley Has Been Taken To The Chamber Of Secrets, Snape Looks Genuinely Concerned
#28 In Prisoner Of Azkaban, Snape Nods At Harry, Ron, And Hermione To Leave. Harry Betrays His Trust By Knocking Him Out, Using The Same Spell His Father Used On Snape In The Bullying Flashback In Half-Blood Prince.
#29 When Snape Kills Dumbledore, You Can See The Hesitation Very Clearly On His Face. He Only Obliges When Dumbledores Says "Please," And Even Then His Voice Shakes
#30 After Harry Screams At Snape For Killing Dumbledore And Bellatrix Knocks Him To The Ground, Snape Makes Sure The Others Go On Without Him And That Harry Is Safe Before He Leaves
#31 When Harry Again Angrily Yells At Him For Killing Dumbledore, He Just Stands There Looking Guilty
#32 In Snape's Death Scene, You Can See A Gryffindor Scarf Hanging In The Background. If You've Read The Books, This May Be A Subtle Nod To Dumbledore's Line To Snape, "Sometimes I Think We Sort Too Soon"
#33 In Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire (2005), When Harry Brings Back Cedric's Body, Snape Covers Him With His Cloak, Which Cedric's Father Then Removes To Look At His Son. This Is Why He Wasn't Wearing It When They Capture Barty Crouch Jr.
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#34 Can Barely Contain Their Laughter
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#35 He's Just Altogether Real
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#36 Differences In Emotional Languages
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#37 When Mcgonagall Steps In Front Of Harry To Duel Snape, He Lowers His Wand
#38 This Is A Really Small Detail, But In Snape's Death Scene, When Voldemort Asks Snape Who The Elder Wand's Loyalty Lies With, Snape Responds "With You. Obviously." You Can See Him Sort Of Adjust Position And Gesture Towards Where Harry Is Hiding. This Could Be Him Trying To Indicate To Harry That He Was Actually The Rightful Owner Of The Elder Wand
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YES!!!! JO APOLOGIZED FOR KILLING SNAPE--FINALLY!!! I am absolutely loving the Snaters' toddler fits right about now. They don't seem to understand that as an author, you fall in love a little bit with every character you write, no matter their disposition. And as such a complex persona with both pros and cons, Severus deserves a whole lotta love.
I keep seeing Snape hate all over the place when it really doesn’t need to be, too. There was recently a stupid Reddit thread all about “beloved characters that seem like great people but are actually assholes” that had at LEAST three Snape entries.  The worst part was that Snape never pretended to be a nice guy or a great person. That would be more of a Lockhart thing to do (and as much as I love Harry, he can be a big asshole and he has trouble listening to people big-time). 
I dunno if I feel like people HAVE to love Snape (though I surely do like his character a lot), but I think that he’s important to the text for what he is and what roles he has to play, and that if JK were to change the stories and turn him into a nice dude, it would basically completely change the story.
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Why Keith and Lance belong in Gryffindor
a.k.a. “watch Kayser spend three hours on an AU theory post that will never be relevant to canon and then resume to regret their life.”
So, let’s do this.
While there’s been a fair amount of discussion regarding the House placement of all of the Paladins, Keith and Lance have certainly been the most debated. They are both very complex characters and I figured that without a huge fucking theory post, no one could ever come to a conclusion on this. And that’s why I’m here, because if there’s anything I do best it’s spending hours compiling evidence for something that won’t matter in the long run.
Without further ado, let’s start with the Sorting Hat and its process of determining the house that students belong to.
The Sorting Hat
One huge detail that a lot of people skim over, is the fact that students are sorted based on the qualities they value, not always those that they exhibit.
"It is our choices, Harry, that show us who we truly are, far more than our abilities."
In addition, the hat is also known to place students based on the house that would challenge them to grow the most. So, someone who is capable of bravery and daring might need to overcome some kind of adversity in order to prove themselves.
However, the hat also takes the wishes of the student into account, if you’ve read the series you know this. (If you haven’t I appreciate your determination to get through this post with little understanding of what I’m talking about). This ties in to that first point, proving that the traits you value will show themselves one way or another.
The Four Houses
Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Slytherin. I’m going to go over the traits and qualities of these houses briefly, to ensure that we’re on the same page by the time I get to the real argument of this case.
"You might belong in Gryffindor, Where dwell the brave at heart, Their daring, nerve, and chivalry Set Gryffindors apart"
Gryffindor is, without a doubt, the most familiar of the houses. Gryffindors value courage above all else, but they often display other notable traits.
Courageous.
Brave.
Daring.
Chivalrous.
Determined.
Reckless.
Short-tempered.
Others (Severus Snape, in this case) often considered them to be arrogant and self-righteous. Plus, let’s recall that their house mascot is a lion. Need I say more? (But of course I will).
"You might belong in Hufflepuff, Where they are just and loyal, Those patient Hufflepuffs are true, And unafraid of toil"
Hufflepuff is a pretty cool house, don’t get me wrong. Hufflepuffs value loyalty and they tend to stand next to their friends in times of trouble.
Loyal.
Dedicated.
Hard-working.
Friendly.
Honest.
Impartial.
Patient.
Tolerant.
Fair play.
Hufflepuff is often considered the most welcoming of the four houses, choosing students based off of their character and not their aptitude.
"Or yet in wise old Ravenclaw, If you've a ready mind, Where those of wit and learning, Will always find their kind."
Ravenclaw is renown for the wit and intelligence required of its members. There’s no doubt as to which house values academics above all else.
Intelligent.
Witty.
Wise.
Original.
Accepting.
Competitive (in regards to academic success).
Members of Ravenclaw have a desire to learn, unrivaled by other houses.
"Or perhaps in Slytherin, You'll make your real friends, Those cunning folk use any means, To achieve their ends."
Slytherin is right under Gryffindor in terms of popularity. Slytherins are often full of ambition and a drive to reach their goals.
Ambitious.
Cunning.
Determined.
Resourceful.
Cunning.
Clever.
Proud.
Self-preserving.
Despite the stigma surrounding the house, great wizards have come from Slytherin just as they have from the others.
Lance
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Before I get to why he should be in Gryffindor, I’m going to briefly explain my reasoning as to why he wouldn’t be in any of the other houses.
Hufflepuff
There’s no doubt that Lance is beyond loyal to his friends. He’s certainly friendly as well, always willing to meet new people. However, he is anything but impartial and while he does exhibit some of the other traits, they aren’t notable aspects of his personality.
While Lance isn’t necessarily lazy, relaxation is one of his top priorities.
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“Okay, well, while you guys do that, I think I'm gonna get my chill on. Maybe kick back with a lemonade or space juice.”
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So hard-working can be ruled out as a prominent trait of his (but it’s like I said, he does work hard, just not as a general rule).
And let’s not forget that his dedication to Voltron only goes so far. I’m sure he’d rather be home than saving the universe.
Ravenclaw
Lance is very smart, let’s not forget that. But that isn’t really a huge part of his character, that’s not his niche. 
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See? And he’s not always witty, not that I can blame him, coming up with words on the fly is rough.
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“Oh, yeah? Well, the amount of information you have, Keith, could be... Uh it's less than what I have!”
Slytherin
Now, I’ve seen a lot of people vying to put Lance in Slytherin. But he’s not all that ambitious, we haven't seen him talk about what he wants from this whole Voltron thing other than a huge parade. 
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“And I thought I was the team's sharpshooter, but I guess no one else thinks that. Maybe I don't have a thing.”
But I think the most important piece of evidence against this would be his lack of self-preservation. Jumping in front of a bomb anyone? The same thing goes with pride, he really does exhibit a lack self-confidence and severe insecurities despite how he carries himself.
And while he can be clever, he isn’t exactly cunning. He’s loud and upfront with his opinions, hardly ever deceitful.
Gryffindor
Here we are, finally, after two hours of work... and I’m only halfway done.
Anyways.
Lance is a brave and courageous kid, he’s trying to save the universe after all, you’re gonna need some nerve to do that.
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(Hey, let’s walk right into this giant lion head, great idea)
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(Someone in danger? Here I come mysterious red light!)
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And yeah, sometimes to the point of recklessness.
Despite hitting on everyone in the galaxy, he’s still pretty chivalrous when it comes to saving others.
His raging determination to beat Keith and prove himself to the team is a huge part of his character. It’s not something he’s given up on, despite feeling like a seventh wheel.
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“I'll stick you in a wormhole!”
Short-tempered? Yeah, it’s pretty easy to get a rise out of him, especially when it comes to the other Gryffindor in the room.
And speaking of...
Keith
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If you’ve been paying attention, I assume you can see where I’m coming from when I say that Keith’s a Gryffindor. Either way, let’s go over this again.
Hufflepuff
Haha, Keith? Patient? There are so many reasons that Keith could never be a Hufflepuff. He’s not exactly the friendliest Paladin around, preferring his own company to that of strangers. That’s not to say that he can’t be good friends with someone, but it takes a while for others to get past that initial barrier.
He’s not exactly tolerant of others either, he snaps easily when frustrated. 
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(Damn dude, chill.)
Ravenclaw
Yeaaaah, no. He’s not not smart but... his wit leaves something to be desired. 
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Just like it was with Lance, it’s just not his thing.
Slytherin
This one’s a tough one, I must admit. However, let’s look at the evidence. Ambitious and determined? Hell yeah, the guy can’t take a break.
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(You gotta listen to him man. You and the doors.)
But he’s not cunning. Like Lance, he’s rather blunt plus he’d rather get answers out of brute force than trickery.
He’s definitely not that resourceful, leave the plans to the others he’d rather go in swinging his sword.
Still not that clever, it took him two fucking days to figure out the Blade of Marmora trial. Sorry Keith. He’s not that proud either, but unlike Lance he doesn’t try to put up a front for it.
And self-preserving? Sure he’s usually looking at the bigger picture but he’s not exactly shying away from battle. Yeah, he’s usually getting injured in one way or another.
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(Cough.)
Gryffindor
After all these years...
Keith is absolutely a Gryffindor, courageous might not be the word you’d think to use but...
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Yeah, leaving someone behind takes a hell of a lot of courage. He’s pretty brave if you think about it, I mean, diving into danger headfirst is sort of his thing.
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(Haha here I go.)
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(Come at me.)
Okay, maybe he’s not that chivalrous but like I mentioned before, he’s pretty determined and that’s another huge trait found in Gryffindors.
And then we have reckless and short tempered... fit the bill? Yeah I think so too.
Well, three hours later and here we are. I can only think of so much off the top of my head, though I wish I could go on.
If you have any specific qualms, come at me. This was actually pretty fun but I think I’ve settled my case for the most part. Lance and Keith are some pretty kickass Gryffindors.
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