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sidsinning · 1 year

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still miss them dearly sometimes 😭💔

#them just peacefully smiling at each other alone under the bridge #dammit #lukanette #ml truth #ml #mlb #miraculous ladybug #luka x marinette #luka couffaine #marinette dupain cheng #sidrabbles

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miraculousfanworks · 3 months

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Writing Prompt

Truth alternate ending:

Truth: Tell me the truth! What’s your deepest secret Ladybug?!

Ladybug: I…I…am…

Chat Noir: Don’t do it Ladybug!

Ladybug: …am in love with Adrien Agreste

Truth: …

Chat Noir: …what…

Ladybug: It’s true…

Truth: Ughhhh you got to be KIDDING ME!!!! First Marinette, my girlfriend btw, is in love with Adrien and now you?! Is everyone in love with Adrien?! SMH…

Truth: mumbles I’m just gonna die alone

Chat Noir: WHAT!?!

Prompt by Mickeyfan1

#miraculous fanworks #miraculous ladybug #ml #mlb #lovesquare #adrien agreste #writing prompt #prompt #marinette dupain cheng #fluff #truth #ml truth #Alternate ending #ladybug #chat noir

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broadwaycutie16 · 2 years

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You know what’s the biggest proof that salt fic writers are hypocrites who refuse to acknowledge that Adrien is a good guy and the class aren’t Lila’s mindless drones? They pick and choose which episodes to include in the canon of their stories. Like, they make it so that Lies happened in their stories so Adrien and Kagami are broken up, but they pretend Truth never happened so they can keep their precious Lukanette ship in tact. So it’s okay to break up Adrigami and leave Adrien single, but Marinette can’t lose Luka, even though both couples broke up for the same reason? You know what that does, writer? That makes people be able to smell your bias from a mile away.

They refuse to acknowledge the episodes that show Adrien working to help Marinette, or Alya being a good, loyal friend to her, because it doesn’t support their belief that Adrien is a selfish coward who doesn’t give a s**t about Marinette, or that Alya is a toxic friend who leeches off of her kindness. Worse still, sometimes they pick and choose certain parts of the episode that support their theory. Like, they leave in the part from Ladybug where Lila models with Adrien, but leave out the part where he made a deal with her to clear Marinette’s name. It’s like after Chameleon, people decided to only acknowledge the BAD things Adrien and the class did, like they decided that only the BAD things they did mattered, and everything good they do from that point on doesn’t count. Like that one bad moment in Chameleon is what defines them.

The girl squad act concerned for Marinette in Gang of Secrets and try to help her get over her breakup? Doesn’t count, write a fic about them taking advantage of Marinette.

Alya does stellar work as Rena Furtive and even subs for Marinette while she’s gone, giving Marinette some much-needed support? Doesn’t count, write a fic about her neglecting Marinette for Lila.

Adrien makes a deal with the devil to clear Marinette’s name and secretly sacrifice himself to Lila to keep her from bullying Marinette? Doesn’t count because he didn’t save Marinette the way the author would have wanted him to, wrote a fic where he willingly allows Marinette to be tormented by Lila.

Because the characters did things THEIR own way with THEIR knowledge of events and THEIR morals, instead of handling things exactly the way the salters wanted them to, because they didn’t handle things in a way that would have completely served Marinette’s interest, because their actions inconvenienced her slightly for one or two episodes, salty fans write them off as poisonous influences in Marinette’s life, willfully ignoring every ten wonderful actions to Marinette to the one not-so-great action to her. They’re all “Marinette gets enough consequences”, and think that means that every single character should just bend over backwards to accommodate her to compensate for her bad luck, instead of having morals and opinions of their own. Which is why they like Luka, because his whole character revolves around pleasing her and serving her interests entirely.

The fact that the salt writers have to pick and choose which episodes that happened in the lore of their fanfictions, just to paint Adrien and the class as villains and sell the idea that “Marinette deserves better”, just goes to show that at this point, they’re grasping at straws.

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adrinoir · 2 years

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Hot take: Lukanette was not a healthy relationship

Not to be salty but to be honest.

Just as a disclaimer: It’s fine if you liked them! And I love Luka and Marinette as characters! The only thing I’m confused about is the people who like them more than the love square (I’ll talk more about that).

There is definitely a group of people in the fandom who don’t like Adrien and think Luka was the better option - I’ve seen fanfics - which boggles my mind. Like, are we watching the same show?

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a second love interest in the show - as long as it’s done correctly. I feel Lukanette wasn’t executed properly, and that’s totally on the writers. Maybe it’s liked so much because it had that wasted potential? I definitely feel it had way too much wasted potential.

Luka is very chill and very sweet, but they made this a bad thing in his relationship with Marinette because he just accepts being her second choice. He takes the bit of affection she shows towards him and runs on that. But, this doesn’t make a healthy relationship. How can so many people be in support of an unhealthy relationship? How is that the better ship? That is what I don’t understand.

Marinette still loves Adrien and doesn’t really try to hide that when she’s around Luka, even when they were dating. We all know love square is end game - there’s no denying that. But, it was disappointing seeing her get with Luka and not moving on at all from Adrien. That was also another extremely unhealthy part of their relationship.

I like what they did in Star vs. the Forces of Evil because Star made an effort to move on from Marco to have a healthy relationship with Tom again. They gave Tom a great character arc which made him so desirable. I would’ve loved to see this kind of progression with Lukanette. Marinette starts moving on from Adrien and fully embraces a relationship with Luka.

I understand she was struggling to keep up with dates and couldn’t be honest with him since she almost constantly has to fight Hawk Moth, and it’s a valid reason for ending the relationship. But, the fact that she liked Adrien more and that wasn’t a 2nd factor in the breakup doesn’t make any sense. Luka should’ve explained, “I love you Marinette, but I can tell you love Adrien more, and I can’t deal with that.”

It’s almost as if Luka was made simply to prove that Adrien is the only one for Marinette. No one else has a chance. Notice how short the relationship was. They only had one episode when they were officially boyfriend and girlfriend, or at least trying to date. But, it ended right when that episode ended. Lukanette was given no time. Similar to Adrigami, it ended and they came to accept that Adrien and Marinette are the ones who are supposed to be together. It’s so disappointing because Lukanette could’ve been good.

Then, Luka was the second friend of hers to figure out she’s Ladybug. But, the only thing that really came of that was him helping her out in Ephemeral because he knew it was Marinette telling him to rush to her room.

I liked Adrigami because there were more get togethers between them. They snuck out together on multiple occasions. Adrien tried to get comfortable in their relationship but clearly wasn’t. He visibly looked discomforted when she first tried to kiss him. It was made obvious he didn’t know what he was doing at all. There was all that build up to their break up. They broke up for both the reason of him lying to leave their dates and him loving Marinette instead (without him having that bit of realization until Kagami found his lucky charm!) Although, similar to Lukanette, I still would’ve liked to see more of them.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Luka! He’s hot and he’s such a sweetie. But, I’m absolutely disappointed that the writers decided to make him okay with being Marinette’s 2nd option and have an uninteresting plot line. He deserves way better! I really mean that.

#miraculous ladybug #tales of ladybug and cat noir #miraculers #miraculous #ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #luka x marinette #lukanette #luka couffaine #ml truth #ml season 4

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sfigatino · 2 years

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Happy 4k followers to @akumatizedcamembert! I loved trying to make my own poster, and honestly, who else but Luka? <3

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lea-panthera · 2 years

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Huh. That's weird. Because like about ten episodes later:

...so I guess Tikki needs to do a little fact checking?

#miraculous ladybug #kwami #marinette dupain cheng #great job mlb writers #that was sarcasm #clearly #ml optigami #ml truth #season 4 #miraculous tikki

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iwasbored777 · 2 years

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If you think about it, Luka both times he was akumatized took Mari's voice -literally and figuratively- while kagami tried to fight Adrien twice(?)

Omg!!! I did notice that but I didn't think about it a lot... Now I do... Idk if that means anything but I doubt it's a coincidence.

#miraculous ladybug #luka couffaine #kagami tsuguri #Ml oni chan #Ml riposte #Ml silencer #Ml truth #Ml ask #ask and answer

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gameguy20100 · 11 months

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If Dustin was Canon: Truth.

Truth: Whats Marinette’s secret!?

Dustin: She's in love with Adrien Agreste.

Truth: Oh, come on!

Dustin: Hey, it's not my fault you don't like my answer, dude.

#miraculous ladybug #ml au #ml truth #luka couffaine #original character

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character-fan19 · 2 years

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MLB Season 4 Character Analysis: "Truth"

Introduction

So while we wait for season 5 to arrive, I decided to start this series. One of the things I liked about season 4 was the amount of characterization it had. So many characters gave me the feels but it seems like some people in the fandom prefer to hate those characters rather than try to understand them so I decided to start this series where I go through each individual episode of season 4 and analysis the POVs of all the characters whose POV is relevant to the plot to help people understand these characters better starting with the first episode "Truth".

Now when I first saw this episode... wow.... what a start to a season. This episode focuses on the relationship between Marinette and Luka and how Marinette's new role as Guardian of the Miraculous and superhero life as Ladybug which ultimately lead to the death of Lukanette. The characters I'm going to be focusing on will be Marinette and Luka obviously, and I'm also going to do a little bit of Cat Noir and Jagged Stone.

Character POVs

Marinette/Ladybug

"As long as Shadow Moth is a threat to the people I love, I can never have a boyfriend. It's too dangerous."

For Marinette, this season starts off with her being fresh off of being made Guardian of the Miraculous and losing her only mentor and only human being she could talk to about her identity as Ladybug which a lot to take in. I already have enough trouble keeping my life balanced with studying for my university examinations but I can't imagine being a superhero and the guardian of a magical box of magical jewels with tiny creatures flying everywhere.

We see Marinette go on a date with Luka, but due to her superhero life as Ladybug she has to ditch him again and again to go fight off akumatized villains and/or sentimonsters. Due to this she unintentionally causes Luka pain and it's not like she can do anything about it. Even if she told him that she was Ladybug, it wouldn't really make any difference because she'd still be ditching him whenever there is an akumatized villain and/or sentimonster on the loose.

This of course causes Luka's akumatization into Truth, a villain who can force anyone to tell the truth by shooting a white beam at them from his third eye. After defeating Truth, Marinette feels guilty about Luka's akumatization and feels that it's best that they stop dating as continuing will only lead to more pain for Luka. After breaking up with Luka, she comes to the conclusion that she can never have a boyfriend as her double life will only lead to them getting akumatized and telling him about her identity as Ladybug would only cause them to get akumatized with the knowledge that she is Ladybug. Like she said, it's too dangerous. She also shows one of the symptoms of PTSD, that being losing hope for the future. Here she is losing hope of ever getting a boyfriend. And that's a pretty sad ending to the premiere of season 4.

2. Luka

"When you're ready, I'll be here Marinette"

Now let's take a look at Luka's side of the relationship. While on dates Marinette would make some excuse and ditch her to go somewhere else. This happens frequently and it hurts Luka, but being the kind, understanding and infinitely patient guy he is, he doesn't get angry and in an effort to let Marinette know that she can tell him anything and that he would understand he takes her to a special place he goes to whenever he feels down.

Now in this episode we finally get some characterization besides "the perfect guy who is an alternative love interest for Marinette" for Luka when he reveals that he never knew who his father was and whenever he asked his mom, she wouldn't answer. Luka becomes his own character here and not just an alternative love interest of Marinette. In a way, it's Luka's own fault that he never knew his dad. Being understanding and patient is a great trait but sometimes you have to press the truth and let other people know that you're hurting. Whenever Luka asked his mom about his dad and she said no, Luka just let it go.

When Marinette tells him that the truth is the only thing she can't tell him, this hits Luka hard and makes him vulnerable to akumatization and amokitization by Shadow Moth. He tries to fight him but due to his inability to speak up and tell others that he is hurting he ultimately succumbs and becomes the villain, Truth who wants nothing but to find out what Marinette is hiding from him. In the process, he also found out who his father really is from his mom who reveals that it is Jagged Stone. He initially refuses to believes this and when he finally accepts that this is the truth he goes after his father, furious at him for leaving him as a child. He asks him about why he left him and when he was dissatisfied with his answers, he threw him off a building out of rage but thankfully Jagged is saved by Ladybug and Cat Noir.

After getting deakumatized, he and Marinette break up but on good terms, Luka understanding that Marinette is not ready to tell her the truth and tells her that when she is, he'll be there for her, unbeknownst to him that she can never tell him her secret.

Luka also settles things with his father, Jagged Stone. They find common ground in music and decide to write a song together, giving Luka the happy ending that Marinette didn't have.

3. Jagged Stone

"If there's one thing I can do son, it's taking emotions and turning them into great songs"

Jagged seems to be the hated character of this episode and I understand why. This guy abandoned his son when he was just a child and for the Luka fans out there, they probably felt what Luka (or rather Truth) felt when he confirmed with Jagged whether or not he was his father: betrayed, angry, hurt; that's what happens with people and their favourite. But we need to understand, Jagged had good intentions.

Yeah, I agree, he's a terrible father, but he knows it and that's why he thought it was best for Luka to grow up with out him. He knows that he's not the brightest or the most emotionally intelligent, but he copes with his emotions different from others: through music, just like his son. He doesn't know how to show care to others in a way that let's them know how much he cares, his coping mechanism is music. At the end of the episode, he and his son reconcile and Jagged decides that he does the one thing he can do as a father to make for all the time he wasn't there for his son. He realizes his mistake and wants to work to fix that by bonding over the one thing they have in common: music. He's trying now so let's give him a chance.

4. Adrien/Cat Noir

"Truth is, I only ever have this much fun when I'm with you M'Lady"

We didn't really get much of Adrien/Cat Noir this episode, considering this episode is supposed to be Lukanette-focused but we do have something to note about his character.

While fighting Truth, Cat Noir gets struck by one of the titular villain's truth beams, and when Truth attempts to find out his secret identity, Ladybug interrupts him by asking Cat Noir what he thought about her new role as Guardian and Cat Noir says that as long as it doesn't change anything between them he's fine with it. This will be important for the future as things are going to change between them as we see in future episodes, Cat Noir feels left out when Ladybug calls on the other heroes more often and he's becomes pretty much useless.

Another moment for Cat Noir's character we see is after they defeat the titular villain, when Cat Noir says that he only has this much fun when he's spending time with his lady. This dependency is later going to cause Cat Noir trouble as depending on one relationship for your happiness is never a good thing as it puts strain on that relationship as we see happen in future episodes. Like I said, nothing much for Cat Noir this episode, just foreshadowing for future episodes.

Conclusion

And with that we end the character analysis for episode 1 of season 4 "Truth". I'm probably not going to post these regular cause I have to balance this with my college studies but I'll try. Anyway, let me know your thoughts on my analysis! I've also done this on Reddit.

#marinette sugar #luka couffaine #jagged stone #cat noir #ml character analysis #ml truth #ml characterization

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flightfoot · 2 years

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I think in Truth Ladybug threw the sentimonster towards Cat Noir with her yo-yo. Or it was a coincidence. Or he would use his power if Ladybug told him to. In any case what happened wasn't his intention, as it seems.

Oh yeah, you're right. I thought it was on purpose, but looking back at the actual scene, nope. It turns out to be convenient though. I think it might have been Ladybug's plan? But it wasn't Chat's, he was surprised.

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#ask #miraculous ladybug #ml truth

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anna-scribbles · 26 days

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❌i hate adrien agreste❌

#speaking my truth finally #anna rambles #ml

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theluckiestlb · 10 months

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girl...WHEN??? WHERE????

what are you talking about???? when you kept him isolated for 14 years??? when you robbed him of bodily autonomy???? when you exposed him to his mother's corpse to akumatize him, TWICE????

wait, wait—OH you mean when he was terrified for his life, literally begging you to stop after you beat him up. my bad.

no? OH, you mean when you forced him to leave the country and the love of his life.

Huh.

#ml #miraculous ladybug #the math is not mathing #i'm sorry for the salt but this unacceptable I am BIG MAD #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #ml spoilers #miraculous ladybug spoilers #ml recreation #ml recreation spoilers #nothing says love like a deprivation chamber #AND SHAME ON MARINETTE FOR DECIDING WHETHER ADRIEN SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH OR NOT #STOP!! ROBBING!! HIM!! OF !! DECISIONS!!!#literally a mar stan till I die but smh at the writers #TWO WEEKS OF PANCAKE DON'T ERASE A LIFETIME OF ABUSE #ZAG DO BETTER #'the good father i tried to be' girl you are DELULU

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buggachat · 9 months

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show!adrien would NEVER call a woman a "bitch". movie!adrien on the other hand....

#ml movie spoilers #ml movie #IM SORRY IM SORRY #IM SORRY I PROMISE I DIDNT HATE IT BUT I HAVE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH #[shows you a picture of show!chat noir and a picture of movie!chat noir side by side]#corporate wants to know which of these two characters would be most likely to say a slur #they are NOT the same picture. there IS an answer

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ozzo-the-wozzo · 9 months

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the fandom is in absolute agreement to the point where its essentially canon on adhd marinette and nothing makes me happier but also everyone sleeps on autistic adrien in this essay I will

#saw a gif of him wearing earbuds in the movie and wrote this in a cold sweat #obviously my reasoning behind this headcanon isn't due to that but I saw it and got reminded of the blinding truth #first hit post after being back (the brain rot is consuming me whole)#miraculous ladybug #ml #mlb #adrien agreste #mine

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mikauzoran · 2 years

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LuXY (Luka/XY): “Hey! I was gonna eat that!” – LGBTIQA+ (One-Shot)

So, @janaikam made this post after Lies first aired, and I finally wrote a fic inspired by it. Thanks for the inspiration!

Read it on AO3: LuXY (Luka/XY): “Hey! I was gonna eat that!” – LGBTIQA+

Summary: Set the day of Truth/Lies – Luka and XY meet at Prince Ali’s party, talk things out, and end up at McDonald’s.

Pairing: Luka Couffaine/Xavier-Yves “XY” Roth

Rating: T

#LuXY #Miraculous Ladybug #Luka Couffaine #XY #Xavier-Yves Roth #Miraculous Ladybug Fanfiction #ML Truth #ML Lies #Humor #Fluff #Hurt/Comfort #Communication #Enemies to Friends to Crushes #Flirting #Getting to Know Each Other #Writing Prompts #Mikau's Writings #Curiosity Cabinet

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gale-gentlepenguin · 5 months

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Movie!Gabriel saw Adrien as his son.

Show!Gabriel saw Adrien as a keepsake of Emilie.

This isn’t speculation, this is not a headcanon.

It is 100% fact.

The show writers may say otherwise, but that means nothing because it’s not what is conveyed.

#miraculous ladybug #ml #ml spoilers #im not being critical #I’m being objective #this isn’t salt #this is the truth #watch the show #watch the movie #and it’s clear what each Gabriel values

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