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avengerscompound · 6 months

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Loki | Season 2: Episode 6 - Glorious Purpose

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ohnoitstbskyen · 1 year

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On God of War and "canon" in Norse mythology

Playing God of War: Ragnarök and reading writing about it reminds me of something a lot of people have trouble internalizing about Norse myth, which is is that

The vast, overwhelming majority of Norse mythology is lost and

There is no "canon" in Norse mythology

The concept of "canon" in religion is, at least in the west, very much a Christian thing (yes, it's also a feature of other religions). The idea that there is an authorized, central, divinely ordained, "official" central set of facts which are true, and everything else is fanfiction at best or heresy at worst.

And this is something we've taken with us into our general media criticism, hundreds of thousands of words exchanged between people debating which parts of Star Wars or the MCU are canon, or endlessly cycling through interpretations of what parts of Tolkien's mythos apply to each part of the Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit. I've participated in those discussions, and they can be a lot of fun, but it's worth remembering that this is only one of multiple ways to approach writing and narrative.

Norse mythology has no canon. There is no set of texts that have been declared by any central authority to be "the truth" of the Allfather, or the most correct depiction of Thor. Even in its own time, before its suppression by Christianity, Viking-age sailors, farmers and warriors would not have understood their religious practise as bounded by a finite and defined set of stories. It was an oral tradition, transmitted by telling and re-telling.

Your skjald knows some stories of the gods, maybe the guy the next town over knows some different ones, and maybe you go on a trading journey with a guy from Norway who knows completely different stories and you take those home with you where they become a part of the local rotation.

The primary sources for most Norse mythology (and certainly for God of War: Ragnarök) are the Prose Edda and Poetic Edda, two collections of texts compiled in the 13th century in Iceland by Snorri Sturluson, a Christian poet and politician, as well as possibly other contributors at the same time.

They are limited by their geography, consisting only of those stories that survived in Iceland, and limited by their time period. The Viking Age is generally considered to have ended around 1050 CE, so Sturluson was compiling these stories two hundred years after the time when Norse paganism would have been the dominant religious practise in Scandinavia or indeed Iceland.

We have other sources than the Eddas, of course, but they are painfully limited: Runestones and archeological artifacts, as well as stories told about the Vikings by people who weren't them, which obviously comes with a lot of biases. The Viking-era Scandinavians themselves simply didn't leave any substantial body of written sources that survived.

Sturluson being a Christian, writing for Christian audiences, also introduces a lot of suspicion of tampering. He might have had incentive to avoid recording certain stories, for fear of being accused of spreading heresy, and he may have edited or altered aspects of the stories he did record to make them palatable to his audience, or to serve his own political purposes. This, of course, is a concern with any author writing anything ever, but since Sturluson is quite literally our only source for so many of these stories, it is impossible to check his work against competing narratives.

The consequence of all of this is that the vast majority of Norse mythology is lost. We do not know the vast majority of what that old religious practise was, we do not know the vast majority of its stories. This was a set of beliefs and stories told and transmitted across populations ranging from what is now the inland plains of Germany to the heights of the mountains of Norway to the shores and harbors of Denmark to parts of modern day Russia. These disparate populations would have had an absolutely enormous range of shared and local religious practises, they would have emphasized and cared about different gods, they would have absorbed and incorporated stories from neighboring religious groups.

This has a couple of consequences. For one thing, the whiny pissbabies crying about Angrboða being portrayed as a person of color in God of War: Ragnarök because "there were no black people in Norse mythology!" are, indeed, full of piss and expired baby oil. They don't know that, because nobody knows that.

Viking sailors made it as far as Constantinople and old Norse was once spoken in parts of Crimea. They even managed to make it across the goddamn Atlantic to found a settlement in Newfoundland, so the idea that old Norse peoples wouldn't know what a person of color is or tell stories about them is just absurd on the face of it. We have no direct evidence that they told stories about gods of color, but to look at the tiny snapshot provided by one Christian poet writing for a Christian audience in Iceland two hundred years after the Christianization of Scandinavia and confidently concluding that people of color couldn't possibly have existed in the Norse imagination is like finding the Q key off a keyboard lying on the ground and concluding there can be no such thing as vowels or the letter L.

The tiny sliver of Norse mythology that has survived to the modern day should to a modern reader be a prompt to imagine the vast possibility of what has been lost, not a reason to reduce the entire culture of my ancestors to whatever bits that were left by the time some dude in Iceland found it interesting and convenient to write them down.

Which leads us on to the other interesting consequence of the facts of Norse mythology.

It is an oral tradition, with no central canon and no central authority, whose religious practises were local and varied, whose stories were designed to be shared and picked up by whoever finds them compelling. Which means that any story we tell, now, about the gods that we find compelling is every bit as "canon" as anything that survives in the Eddas.

Which is to say: not canon at all, unless you decide to believe in it. Or, hell, even if you just find it enjoyable.

God of War: Ragnarök is as canon as Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology is as canon as Jul i Valhal that ran on Danish TV in 2005 is as canon as the MCU Thor, is as canon as the Prose Edda, is as canon as the half-remembered re-telling of Norse myth I heard from my Danish teacher in class in 1998.

It is often very difficult for a lot of modern audiences to free themselves from the idea of "canon." We seem to instinctively want a certain set of stories to be "the real ones," a certain narrative to be the "official" one, and set adrift without that sense of central authority to guide us, a lot of people exhibit what I would call an almost resentful anxiety. If none of it is definitely true, then what is even the point of any of it? If you can't know for sure which story is the most real, then all of it must be meaningless!

And yeah. It's easy to feel that way. We live in the Age of Canon, the era of the cinematic universe and the franchise, the epoch of copyright. But that is only one way to understand stories and narrative.

If you listen to the stories of the old gods, whether out of the Eddas or re-told in pop culture, and you take some of that with you, and you pass the good bits on to someone else, then you are participating in the oldest and most sacred tradition of Norse mythology. These stories do not belong to any one author (especially not the goddamn Mouse!) or even to any one people. They were telling stories of Thor along the rivers of Russia a thousand years ago, Viking sailors scratched their names in runes in the Hagia Sophia, Islamic artifacts have been found in Viking burials. Those who look at the tradition of my ancestors and feel compelled to do enclosure around them are fools and charlatans, fearful and small-minded.

Our stories are monopolized these days by capital. Canon to them is a tool of enclosure, a way to shut people out of participating in the modern mythology they are trying to build, except with their permission and profit in mind. But there is another way.

Listen to the stories and pass them on. The story you believe in won't be the one everyone likes, and the version you tell won't be the same version someone else passes on from you. But every telling takes the soul of the teller with it, and the stories we weave together in communal tradition become a picture of every storyteller who has contributed to them. And you spite the fucking Mouse.

#tb essay #god of war #gow ragnarok #norse mythology #norse gods #history #prose edda #poetic edda #loki #thor #odin #angrboða

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cherienymphe · 7 months

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i just need everyone to know im better than them cuz i was here when there was a “lokis pet” era and we were waiting on a loki x siren!reader for like a year🫦🫦

Lmaooo you're an OG 😭 and it's coming I promise

#tb to my Loki pfp #asks

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reachexceedinggrasp · 1 year

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What do you think of the ship that is Alina and the Darkling from the Grisha Trilogy? The show adaptation's second season just dropped. Hope you are having a great day, love reading your anon responses.

Thanks, anon! 💖

I've not read any of the book(s) and I've not seen the show, so I really don't have an opinion, but it sounds like I wouldn't be into it just from what I've gathered. Someone told me on my other blog that it's more comrades to lovers to foeyay to some kind of vague compassion between her and the Darkling, but the story says she definitely needs to end up with her Raoul despite him shoving an extinguisher cap down on her light.

I was never tempted to check it out bc it's YA and people were always talking about the shitty-sounding ending.

#I really hate rivalshipping #anything that maps onto that rather than B&tB or EtL- probably a no from me dawg #when people write my B&tB ships as rivalshipping I do not like them #that's why I'm so picky about the dynamic #a lot of people write reylo as that and it SO ISN'T and I HATE IT #that was why I gave up on the pre-TLJ fandom bc it was so much more popular to write them as a rivalship pair or frenemies than as their #actual dynamic #and iccckkk #and every time I've made an exception and tried to read YA it has been a huge mistake so I'm just not going to do it any more #and on a rock bottom bare minimum level the guy in the show has a beard so I'm just not here for it #if the guy were Jang Hyuk I would be seated #but you know if you're not going to give me gothic romance and you're not going to give me great writing you need to at least give me #eye candy and a level of acting the material in no way deserves #although sometimes that still isn't enough #/still refuses utterly to watch the Loki show

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galaxythreads · 2 years

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I just reread the weeping siren (amazing, messed up my sleep schedule), and decided to read blodig skog for the first time. and then I saw in the intro that loki is 16?! in the blodig skog?!!

ARE U TELLING ME HE WAS 15 IN WEEPING SIREN??!!! ik frigga and sif said they were young but HE WAS A BABY??!!!!!!

the weeping siren ^^^

the blodig skog ^^^

in both of them he was 16, but if this was in human years, I would say that Loki was 16 in the weeping siren and 17-ish in the Blodig Skog. Loki, Sif and the Warriors all had a birthday in the Weeping Siren's captivity.

Timeline, for reference:

so IF this had been human years, Loki would have started this at 15, turned 16 in captivity and the Blodig Skog would have started after he turned 17.

#answered #the weeping siren #tws #tbs #the blodig skog #my fics #thor #loki

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lokisprettygirl · 1 year

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Pick your favourite (I just want to see what type of Lokis you guys prefer)

#stupid polls #because im bored #i want to write but im too bored to write

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smolvenger · 11 months

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The Wildest Crossover Fic I ever thought of

Why do I suddenly like lightning get the most unhinged ideas for fics- like...

In the middle of writing the one-shot about just healing up post-battle Prince Hal, this morning I suddenly got an idea (thanks @holdmytesseract)

A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J Maas with Loki as Rhysand (who else who read that pictured him as Rhys? :)) ) , for those of y'all who like the A Court of Mist and Fury Series.

Yes, that's natural, and in most cases, I would make Reader Feyre-

BUT

Stella Ransome from The Essex Serpent as Feyre and Will Ransome as Tamlin.

Hear me out. Like...

Our girlie Stella is sick with TB and dying. She's at this point not yet married to Will. Loki appears by her sickbed and she's like "!!!!! What is this Norse God doing here???"

But he offers to heal her if she gives him a week to stay with him every month to stay with him in Asgard. And she accepts!

Now she's healed! Then she's about to marry Will. She's suppressing her heartbreak about Will cheating on her with Cora because she thinks she loves him and can overcome that and that his happiness matters more than her own. That she loves him that much. But she is unhappy.

She's walking down the aisle. When she pauses and silently says "Help me". She stops, unable to move to the altar.

Then suddenly, a voice "Hello, Stella, darling," and WHOOSH, there's Loki in the church!

Everyone is in shock wtf is a Norse god who looks like the groom doing in a Christian church?.

He takes Stella away to Asgard. She's astounded and gets to know the motley crew- Thor, Frigga, Valkyrie, Sif, etc. This Victorian-era Lady gets to learn about this other world and magic and is astounded! Loki helps her with her trauma about being cheated on and teaches her not to sacrifice her happiness for Will's. Stella shows Loki the love and care that is sometimes denied to him. She eventually falls for Loki and dumps Will in between their time there and becomes like a Princess(High Lady) of Asgard. They're fated mates or whatever???

I guess make Thanos the King of Hybern bad guy but maybe that's too much. I'm that unhinged

My mind below thinking of that:

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tf2spyzine · 2 years

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MEET THE CONTRIBUTORS OF

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hughe3 · 6 months

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Hallo tag, vim procurar um 1x1 com o Loki, se alguém tiver afim, chama noiz no chat. Podemos usar o Loki adulto ou até mais novo, usando alguma histórias das HQs se vocês curtirem. A ideia é fazer Loki x OC (F). Posso ser o Loki ou a OC tb. Pode ser tumblr ou discord a plataforma.

#1x1 #1x1 br #1x1 brasil

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logicalstansadvice · 1 year

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I think Sam will be a great Cap and Bucky will be amazing in TB, but I think it's really, really sad that the team-up potential of Sam and Bucky will never be fully realized. We saw glimpses of it in the show, but they never quite took it to a partnership, and now they never will. I hope Seb and Anthony get to do that buddy movie some day!

Lady Danger - The films are connected so maybe we will see a little something but you’re right. TBH, I don’t understand why Loki got a 2nd season and TFATWS didn’t.

#logical stans advice #logicalstansadvice #opinion blog #bucky barnes #asks answered

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slutdreams · 2 years

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JEGULUS WITH DAUGHTER READER DATING LOKI

Masterlist

A/N: Voldemort didn't happen so everybody's alive and euphmia and fleamont too frigga is alive too Your birth is of 2000 as familly I mean all of them merlin is with dorcas and lily with mary sam is wolfstars son. I am thinking of making this a oneshot series so you can send any request you have on this idea.

reader has pearcings and tattos

about my blogs

being jegulus daughter and dating loki headcannons

having TB and you family ensuring you

Being jegulus daughter and attacked by bellatrix

#jegulus x daughter!reader #slutdreamspost

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anothersebastianblog · 13 days

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it will give the illusion that he has a lot of screen time when in fact he won't. // “in fact” is doing a lot of work there. We don’t in fact know anything. It’s all just rumors—and highly suspect rumors. Someone asked AF how much screen time Bucky has on a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is a glorified cameo, and AF said 1. Now if AF said 3 or 4, I might have believed him, but 1? Nah, he’s either ignorant or trolling fans—or both.

Notice that all the Bucky in TB rumors could equally apply to FATWS—his storyline was somewhat sidelined for Sam’s and not what fans expected—and yet we still got lots of memorable Bucky content FATWS. It’s like the scoopers read the biggest complaints Bucky fans had about FATWS and are repeating them for TB clickbait.

it was easier for them to notify Seb to not cut off his hair too much yet // It’s not Marvel’s choice whether Seb keeps his hair long or not. Seb can do what he wants, he just has to let them know so their hair/makeup people can prepare. Again, if Marvel didn’t require Hemsworth and Hiddleston to grow their hair for Thor and Loki, then they aren’t requiring it of Seb.

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ohnoitstbskyen · 1 year

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God of War: an American mythology

I've been playing through God of War the past few weeks (you can follow my progress on my let's play channel), and while both the 2018 game and Ragnarök are amazing experiences and tell really compelling stories about parenthood, loss, grief, generational trauma and the ways our worst mistakes can feel inevitable to our natures, as a Scandinavian myself, the depictions of old Norse mythology and folklore in these games does struggle to resonate with me.

I've spoken before about how old Norse mythology has no "canon," so this isn't about that, so much as it is about whether God of War meaningfully engages with the themes and ideas present in the mythology it is using to tell its story.

And ultimately, I kinda don't think it does. I think it is an American mythology - US American to be specific - grounded a lot more in the concerns of Hollywood and triple-A games prestige than in the aesthetic conceit it uses to tell that story. And there's nothing wrong with that, as such, it just ends up feeling to me like my ancestral mythology was used as a cosmetic skin, and... it's a bit of a pity. I think there was a more interesting world available to God of War than the one it ultimately chose to depict.

#tbskyen #tb essay #god of war #gow ragnarok #kratos #atreus #gow loki #gow freya #norse mythology #norse folklore #Youtube

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im-into-butterflyes-bouquets · 3 months

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// Eu sou uma abominação social //

Mas enfim (isso daqui é uma bio né, então vamo)

*Octavio theme bass bosted at the background*

×+ Sempre amei muito doces, principalmente chocolate, tb amo mingau e miojo

×+ Bem mais ativa aqui de madrugada (nível pré-sal msm)

×+ Jogos são minha paixão e futuro trabalho

×+ N sei desenhar. Mas tamo aí sempre.

×+ Cottage core, Fancy core, Kid-core, Arcade core, Junk core, Messy core e Classic core

×+ Loki simp 🐈‍⬛

×+ Adoro pixel arts

×+ Meu nome real é Isabela 🔮

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×+ ✨️🔮🎫🎟🎂🥮🏅🎃🤩🎆🌯🍤🍨🍧🥡🍡 E M O J I S 🍬🧃🧋🌉🌃🌁🎐🎎🎍🎉🧸👝👒💄👘

×+ Fã de Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail, Honkai Impact 3rd e derivado. Splatoon, animal crossing e jogos indie que tem uma pegada criativa

×+ "Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?"

#self introduction #brazil #2024 #Spotify

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galaxythreads · 2 years

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7. In the weeping siren when they thought Loki was brain dead. That wrecked me bro (gender neutral)

Oh yeah!! That wasn't in the plan of the story is just sort of happened and I was like "okay, I guess we're doing this" and it worked out really well. Which also reminds me of that like, half-way done one-shot I started a few months ago that took place between TWS and TBS. Huh. Maybe I'll go look at that. thanks though! for letting me know. XD

from this ask game

#tws #the weeping siren #my fics

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lokisprettygirl · 2 years

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Hello my dear, I hope you're having a good and successful day 🤗

So chapter 37 of TB...the whole chapter has an angsty tension, very angsty tension 🥺. The wedding is right in front of us, disgusting Steve made a very bad threat 'tomorrow I'll get your leash in my hands, you know what that means' and ...will Loki's plan work out?

Loki didn't know anything about Bruce and y/n's mother, and Bruce needed the reassurance that y/n really doesn't want to marry Steve...so they didn't know much about what was going on the whole time?

That means they lived absolutely under the radar and the only connection was Nat. That's how Bruce got to know, Loki is trustworthy and after the phone call that he will help y/n to get out of the mansion and try to avoid the wedding.

There's much more to reveal but I'm sure the letter is the solution to the riddle. Did they offer y/n the chance to live with them? Y/n seemed to had the chance to make her own choice, hadn't she? Oh that's going to be very hard for her; to get to know the truth, to get to know that they're alive, to get to know the letter's content. Who is to blame? Is there someone to blame?

How can a mother leave her child behind? Was she selfish? Was she just concerned about an insecure, maybe bad future in her new life and was sure that Rocky would and could be a good father? A bad husband isn't automatically a bad father. And what else should they've thought when they got absolutely no reaction of y/n? Is it possible they didn't know in details what y/n had to suffer. And how should they've known that y/n never read the letter.

I get y/n's reasons, I said it before but wouldn't it have been better to read it? There are maybe no answers to it, that's how life goes, about the choices we made, and it can hit us very, very hard.

Like fate hit Loki's family. It's such a sad story. They all suffered (and still do) and had lost so much. This can also happen to everybody and we can't change it. When the time has come for y/n to learn the truth, there is a chance that she is able to forgive her mother and Bruce, based on her reaction when Loki told her about Hela and Thor. It will take some time and maybe she won't let Loki in because she needs some time for herself first and because of the fact, that he didn't tell her what he knew...and Loki will stay by her side, he promised it. He's so caring for the people in his life he loves ( I'm sure he's so sweet with his niece...the photo with his niece and domestic Loki in a hoodie awwwwwe😍🥰). And I think Thor does it too. He cared about Loki after Cairo and I think he would do it for Hela too...if she would let him. Also y/n promised to never let Loki alone. I don't want to believe that they break up their precious relationship, their precious love for each other.

You can't change the past, what happend happend. But you can try to make the best now out of your future. It could be a great one, with a big new family, in Indiana maybe? It's my great wish for them. They deserve all the love and happiness 💚❤️💚❤️

For now there's so much angst, for everyone who's involved in the plan and there are so many insecurities what could happen during or after the wedding ceremony.👀🥺😲

A small bag with the most important things, an expensive ring💍 (very smart !) and a working plan...Loki and y/n are so close to freedom ...Eric, Peter, Bruce, Stark...we count on you !

I'm very excited for the next chapter, I hope it's not the penultimate or last one, I don't want to let them go just yet🥲🥰

You increased the tension wonderfully, my Queen 👑 and I try to wait patiently for the next one 😅. I love you 💚💚💚

Steve is disgusting. Period. Like there's no way he can come back from this or redeem himself and even if he does he is not going to be the person she can ever trust.

The letter is the big part of the reveal and why they hid themselves for so long or didn't try to connect with her before this 👀

I don't think her mother was selfish but more like sad and broken and she just wanted to get out of that space and she just wanted to leave Rocky behind because living that life was making her weaker and sadder more and more everyday and she knew that she won't be able to go on like this forever and she loved Bruce and he loved her, there was a hope for loving future and she took it.

I really wanted to get into whole Thor and loki relationship but I didn't want to make him someone who did something horrible to loki but more like an accident, it was a mistake but he is not able to forgive himself for that because it cost his sister's legs, her life changed in a moment and he is not allowing loki to forgive him either because he thinks he don't deserve them, that's the whole reason for the tension amongst them. He needs a hug, they both need to hug each other.

Ahhh I'm sorry I'm not able to write, I don't have much time plus you know thumb is being an asshole but I'm very excited to get on to 😍😍 I love you dear ..my queen 👑

#asks #mcufan72 #the bodyguard

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