i know i've talked so much about it today, but i seriously cannot get loki season 2 out of my head. everything i have learned about it has been against my will

it's genuinely messed up that so much of the dialogue in the loki series is spent talking about how loki is a bad person and a murderer and etc. when the loki show itself is the one that cut his redemption arc short.

a redemption arc, btw, which was for things he was likely either forced or manipulated into doing— and don't come to me saying the thanos torture is a headcanon. rewatch Avengers 1. he is harmed and threatened on screen. thanos canonically tortures his own daughters. and him harming LOKI is a stretch? come on, now.

"itS nOt CAnOn" shut up. curse of allspeak:

to respond to your tags- I feel like the OG Loki fandom is still going strong but we are all so disgusted by the new content we don't engage in public spaces as much. Most of us are on private servers/chatrooms and feel discouraged from creating or talking about it because of getting bombarded with hate from the new fans.

I don't understand how anyone who payed any attention to the original trilogy could like the new content. I have spoken to a lot of people who have just given up and deleted their stuff because of it.

I try to keep my own blog as OG themed as possible becasue I truly enjoyed those years and it means so much to me, but it gets so frustrating having to sort through so much garbage before you get to the good quality content. Nowadays, when I see the Loki tag trending I just sigh knowing it's full of crap.

Take looking things up as an example. You type in anything, doing research of a scene/character and all that comes up is the shitshow. You have to know specifically what to search/look for in order to get to the good stuff.

( I really really like your blog btw )

(screenshot of the tags in question below)

I know there are plenty of og-loki-anti-series fans out there, both on tumblr and discord and such, but it just feels... disproportionate :( like the amount isn't the amount that the loki fandom used to have (i'd assume), nor the amount that the loki series fandom has :(((

also that is so devastating to hear that people are deleting their stuff :((((

also sadly i'm not a part of any chat rooms :( got invited to one once but wasn't able to join :(

oh loki meant so much to me and i was so passionate about it but the series made it so for a while i hated even thinking of him, and even when that went away, i still dread it coming up in conversation or seeing the tags trending. Because that isn't loki. That is some bastardization far worse than his death.

Also thank you! I'm glad you like my blog.

(also thank you for sending an ask, and such a long one! it meant i didnt have to see all the fucking anon hate i got yesterday. still have no clue why they felt the need to send that. i'm a pretty small blog.)(sadly replying to this means it leaves the askbox though)

You know what ELSE pisses me off about the ‘Loki Show?’ There’s hardly anything ‘Norse’ in it except for him looking at a piece of PAPER referring the Ragnarok, ‘singing in Norwegian’, the flaming sword that he uses for TWO seconds, some wooden statues of Odin, Thor & Baldur/Balder and yes, the tree of Yggrasil at the very end. Other than that, there’s NOTHING NORSE about ‘LOKI!’ 😤🙄

Look at that! I got my first anon hate for season 2! 🙃 I know there are some decent and nice fans of the show. But for some reason the toxic ones seem to be more. Or louder.

I am simultaneously deliriously in love with the ending of Loki season 2 and absolutely loathe it

On one hand…Shakespearean tragedy at its finest, essentially circling back to Loki’s original Thor 2011 character arc by reversing it, and Loki has literally ascended to godhood. In the end, Loki’s ultimate selfless sacrifice was to sit upon the highest throne in the multiverse, and that to me is tragically ironically beautiful

On the other hand…Loki being alone makes me want to burn Marvel studios to the ground and do other unspeakable things

Best and worst ending of all time f u Eric Martin

LOKI 2x01 Ouroboros / 2x06 Glorious Purpose

loki

this look is genuinely sickening like don said "[mobius] is a pretty cool name" and loki looked at him with such longing that it makes me wanna chew a hole in my wall im gonna start biting

They’ve been rotting in my brain for a while so naturally this is the result

Anyways I like to think if marvel weren’t COWARDS they would 1.) make Lokius canon (obvious) and 2.) explore Lokis shapeshifting. Because I want to see him as a cat

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So you mean to tell me that Disney writters decided it was very much okay to write

Heterosexual selfcest

Whatever the fuck this dependency shit was between an older authority figure and a subordinate

And now A FUCKING AI CARTTOON BEING IN LOVE WITH IT'S CREATOR

But they drew the line at a gay ship? One that has an AMAZING chemistry and a build up of friendship and trust where they would both die for each other?

LOKI WRITTERS WTF ARE YOU DOING DUDES?

Lokius vs Sylki season 2 episode 2 (cinematography wise)

Green background (in this show I’ve analyzed it’s usually used as a color for enchantment)

Bodies overlap from our angle

Completely facing each other

Nothing blocking them from each other

Equal playing field (both eating pie)

Orange/yellow tones (I’ve analyzed this color is usually used for lying and betrayal)

Bodies separated

Not entirely facing each other (though they do later)

BIG ASS CASH REGISTER AS A BARRIER BETWEEN THEM

Unequal playing field (employee vs customer)

i also think it's really funny that two (2!!!!) people have told me i know nothing about loki when i've had to correct multiple mcu fans who were posting misinformation about norse mythology. and i have been nice about it every single time!!!

my mom's literal actual religion. the one i was raised with.

but I'M the one that's veering outside of his lane? ok.

i've gotten a few new followers recently who seems to be loki series fans... and i just. you do realize that this is a very anti-series blog, right? it's in my description too

i know i haven't reblogged a whole bunch of anti loki series stuff lately, but it's not because i've "changed my mind" or anything. I am just to tired to read long metas (i haven't been reblogging many og loki metas recently either), i do not have the emotional energy to deal with awful feelings that come with the series, and also the other anti-series blog i follow also are getting emotional burnout from it so they aren't posting/reblogging a whole bunch of anti loki stuff either so that's less content for me to reblog.

but know that i am still very anti-loki series, and had strong feeling about it even before i got a tumblr account and literally no one in my life shared my views. When i finally got a tumblr account, like the first thing i did was read through all of the master posts of all the most major anti-series blogs. I read and reblogged probably hundreds. Like i combed through the archives. And i felt so validated finally.

The loki series was a terrible insult to lokis character. They took away his intelligence and his grace and his strategy and his humour and his masking and his cool reserved (but still witty) demeanor. They took away key aspects of his backstory, and invalidated every bad thing that ever happened to him. They didn't simply reduce his complex personality to something stupidly simple, they completely took away practically every part of his personality, and replaced it with things that weren't ever part of him. They blamed him for things he never did (and don't mention things he actually should be blamed for), called him inherently evil, and made him the butt of every joke. That thing you see on the screen is not the same character, not even a different character, but a bastardization of wearing someone else's corpse. The makers didn't even watch the previous installments he was in.

The series was questionable, if not outright terrifying, in its morals/messages (having the main character be stolen and stripped of everything, then work for a genocidal fascist organization and be happy about it)(portrayed either a questionable strange psuedo-incest abuser or an abusive fascist as the two romance options)(etc etc).

Even smaller less important things made it terrible. Making a show about "loki" then having it not be about him, but rather the tva, just to expand disney/mcu's while multiverse obsession? Having the series be called "loki" the whole aesthetic of the show being something painfully not loki? from the music to the lighting to the costumes to the plot to the everything? The lack consistency of the show to the installments prior/post it (again bc they don't care to research)? Gaps in logic? Also the fact that they seem to keep mixing up the concept of multiverses with timelines? (an alternate universe is different from a branch off of one universes timeline. Alligator loki, for example, does not make sense being a loki "variant" because the timeline could not deviate in a way that would make that happen). The fact that it was called "loki" but all the merch is racist genocidal tva? The fact that they condemn loki for certain things but praise the tva for doing far worse things? The way they made tom overact in such an embarrassing way? The way they marketed as having genderfluid loki, and then not only not showing it, but actively denying it?

i could go on and on and on but since i'm not formatting this as an essay the disorganization and lack of proper sentences/grammar is just muddling my point so i won't continue that long paragraph.

anyways.

and it's not "just" a show to me. its not "just" a fictional character. it's not "not a big deal." It is. It is a big deal. To me. I've dealt with mental illnesses my whole life, and when they get bad, they get bad. Dangerously bad. Having a comfort character/ world in my head i could escape to is a vital coping mechanism for me. When they first announced the loki series, a certain nervousness set in me, and with every new piece of information released, it got worse and worse, and my mental state got worse and worse. fuck man, i wanted to kill myself so that i wouldn't be alive when it came out (amongst other reasons). When it did finally come out, not only were all my fears proven correct, it proved to much, much, much worse than i could have ever imagined. It was horrific. It was like they stole what was dearest to me and disfigured it in front of my eyes and got the blood all over me and it would wash out, and the scent and colour and feel and taste of blood filled all my senses. My mental illnesses got a lot worse (both from reason related to and unrelated to the series), and i couldn't even use my necessary coping mechanism bc every time i thought of loki (even my og loki), the series and how it ruined everything would invade my mind. things were bad for me. and all i got was people saying "it's not that bad, your being dramatic, you should watch it!"

And perhaps i'm one-in-million in that sense, it's not like they made the series specifically to personally do that to me. And they don't know that it did.

but should they be ashamed? that they took something that was originally a complex piece of art and passion and expression, and did that to it? They turned it into some soulless money-making formula? They went from wanting to make stories to wanting to make money? From quality to quantity? Shouldn't they feel ashamed, that they disrespected the original artists and writers and filmmakers who put so much into it, only to not even watch them when "wanting" to continue it? Shouldn't they feel ashamed at their hollow greed and corruption? Shouldn't they feel ashamed for forcing an actor to ruin a character they cared so much about, and not allowed for their ideas?

even without what it emotionally did to people, they should be ashamed.

The fact that Loki spends centuries alone trying to fix the mess Sylvie made only to actually end up alone in the end. The fact that he basically becomes a stranger to Mobius because of it. The fact that even when he wins, he's doomed to lose.

The fact that Mobius can't bear to stay at the TVA once Loki is gone. The fact that he goes to his original timeline to see what Loki is trying to protect. The fact that he has no place there, has no purpose at all anymore. Waits for the spark.

The fact that Sylvie is the only one who gets what she wants. The fact that she doesn't even have to face the consequences of her actions because Loki does it for her. The fact that she gets to be selfish and happy in the end while Loki and Mobius don't.

Despite all the shit I expect of Loki season 2, at least it (probably) will be written specifically for the characters in question, and not be a recycled script.

And now I wonder if it will be based solely Larry’s characterization or include bits of Loki‘s, too. 🤔

If Loki is the only one who has his memories of the TVA and has to collect everyone from their original timelines, please have Mobius unabashedly flirt with Loki as he tries to sell him on jet ski’s.

I want Loki to turn red