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dadrielle · 1 year

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They told me her coat was gonna be leather and I refuse to accept anything else t b h

#imogen temult #critical role #cr art #cr3 #my beloved #critical role spoilers #so I don't get dragged into the Discourse tm please known the caption is a joke #i accept it I just love leather lmao ok #fuck I forgot the embroidery #my art

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vonlipvig · 30 days

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'no kink at pride!' you're so annoying, they're literally hitting jesus with whips at the good friday parade, we can't lose to that.

#getting my pride discourse in early #but yeah i didnt know they did funky reenactions of christ walking with the cross #complete with roman hunks whipping him and all. huh. cool i guess.#and you dont want to see a leather daddy! boo!#according to jules

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v-4-l-0-n · 11 months

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“The gay flag copies the lesbian flag !!!!🥺🥺🥺” mfs when the ocean flag was based on the toothpaste flag which was based on the sunset flag which was based on the lipstick (+ butch) flag which was based on the cougar flag which was based on the bear flag which was based on the leather flag which was based on the Gilbert baker flag

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comparativelysuperlative · 20 days

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Saw some of the Interminable Leather Discourse on my dash. Has anyone ever done an authoritative estimate of how bad it is or isn't?

They don't raise and kill animals specifically for leather. The hide is 4-10% of the monetary value of animals raised and killed for meat.

(10% according a rando on the leatherworking Reddit; 4% according to The Leather Lobby Incorporated's page on We Swear We're Not Evil, You Guys, citing a source that does not seem to say that. I'm just going to call it 5% for the round number.)

Approximately 55 square feet of leather per cow.

The lobbyists up there said it was 69% cows; the rest is sheep+goats+pigs, with pigs being the next biggest. Make it ~42.6 square feet per dead animal; the true number will be a bit smaller because they're not all pigs.

(Apparently if you buy Chinese leather and aren't careful about your sources they sometimes sell leather made from cat or dog skin and lie about it. I assume leather-wearers are not okay with this, but would be interested to find out why. Like, I know my reason, but it's probably not the same one.)

40 square feet for a small men's jacket. More for large, less for women.

A typical leather jacket kills about 1/20th of an animal, in the same ballpark as eating 100 (beef) burgers, or about half of a (chicken) burger.

Animals killed by faux leather:

Literally none?

If every plastic jacket you ever buy ends up in a landfill, that's like...one really big trash bag? A few square feet of area that didn't have much of anything living on it anyway?

Not trying to be sarcastic here; I just genuinely don't see how this hurts or kills much of anything.

Making plastic can't possibly be good for the environment, but it's definitely less bad than growing a one-twentieth-ass cow.

Final opinion on the Discourse:

Depending on how much meat you eat and how long you wear your clothes for, wearing leather is probably less bad than eating beef but around that ballpark.

It is way less bad than eating chicken.

As always, someone who eats as many cows as they want and no other animals has accomplished most of the good things about being vegan with barely any effort. This stays true if they also wear leather.

Arguing about leather is like arguing about the difference between mostly-vegetarian and actually-vegetarian.

I was hoping it'd be a small enough difference that I could say whatever, it's a rounding error, I'm gonna go buy leather now. It wasn't; this is a real difference.

But it is small enough that if you want to wear a leather without people yelling at you, you can skip buying chicken for three weeks and link the activists here so they get mad at me instead of you.

You know, if Internet arguments sound like a fun use of your time.

#leather #the interminable leather discourse #that is a serious offer-- if anyone wants to take advantage of it I'd consider it a win #might have to withdraw or change it if I screwed up the numbers though #obviously what's actually going on is that leather is meaningfully bad but nowhere near the worst bad thing normal people do #and *also* extremely visible and makes a great signal #so it's perfectly placed to keep getting argued about forever

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captainofthetidesbreath · 7 days

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the most important thing we learned in Midst 3.10: Bedrock is that spandex and cactus leather, thus polyurethane, HAVE been invented in the cosmos (unlike LEDs)

#the delay on this one was that I couldn't decide which was the funniest to choose #do not start discourse about cactus leather on this post #Midst podcast #Midst things #Midst spoilers #Midst

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transsexualfiend · 4 days

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This is kind of an inner-community rant so bear with me.

There's someone I follow with the leather flag in their pfp (on instagram btw) and they repeatedly make posts about "who NOT to interact with", "who is HARMFUL" etc etc. And it just ends up being like,, other kink content creators. It's ridiculous.

First of all, do NOT wave that flag if you're going to ridicule other community members for things that do not affect you or anyone else in the slightest, or if you're going to argue that any censorship of "obscene" material is a good thing.

Second of all-- if you seriously think that community members who like things like cnc, ageplay, fauxcest, ddlg, or other "taboo" kinks should be killed/sent to prison, do you seriously think they'll stop there? Just because you think puppy play or rope bondage are more "morally acceptable" and "good" means nothing.

And if you have that mindset, that some kink is just "morally better", you should really do a close examination of why you think that way, you should read more about leather history not just from books and articles but from elders, and most importantly you should INTERACT WITH THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY. Because NONE of this identity/sex-policing behavior would fly in a kink-conscious circle!

It reminds me too of that post on here where it's something like "in the eyes of any fascist/queerphobe, a same-sex couple holding hands is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the kinkiest, freakiest, perverse queer person." You are not any more superior because you think you're avoiding the "gross things". You are just throwing other queer and trans people under the bus to uplift yourself, and that in itself is queerphobic.

#queer liberation #leather pride #pride #kink community #kink positive #leather community #sex positivity #sex positive #sexuality #queer discourse

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unironicallycringe · 6 months

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Honestly surprisingly a breath of fresh air - I stopped scrolling as much as I used to because I've been especially sensitive to discussion of real life suffering. So getting to put a clown nose on over some pointless fictional characters healed me a few points of HP/MP.

#i should draw Hylia in a leather jacket riding the master cycle zero after morally greyly stealing cigarettes from the corner store #i dont actually care if you want to interpret hylia as a paragon of good #its fine #some people find the moral greyness to be compelling as a narrative though #its whatever its silly #coming out swinging on a post from april that didnt even have discussion around it is sure to draw discourse buddy lol #just make a new post at that point and have a discussion if u want #go for it for real play barbies how you want!!! you can change canon i prommy #you can be free #shea muses aloud

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a-polite-melody · 2 years

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Uhm, I better not catch anyone at pride wearing a wedding ring or being pregnant. You’re forcing other people to be part of your scene and your sex lives you gross freaks!

This is how you fuckers sound when you talk about the mere existence and/or presence of a leather harness, or flogger, or other form of kink gear being inappropriate by nature. In its very existence. A wedding ring (consummation laws) and a pregnancy are much more symbols of fucking or having fucked than kink gear — goth, punk, and alternative culture often accessorize with kink gear that they may not ever use in the bedroom, for example. If someone simply wearing something or appearing in a way that makes you think that they’re sexual beings should exclude you from pride, let’s apply it evenly, hm?

#my post #kink discourse #pride discourse #I made this post because of that sausage dog in a leather daddy outfit post #having someone in the notes who replied to the question #of if you would ban HIM (the dog) from pride #that yes they would because it’s forcing people to watch a scene #and like… I’m sorry what the fuck???#do you think people dressing their dogs up are engaging in sex acts with their dogs?????#if you legit think that then that’s the problem I think you should be more focused on #but also it’s a fucking costume #it says nothing #it is not a scene

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feather--fae · 11 months

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honestly it's kind of weird how some of yall will treat anything vaugly kink related like it's the same as full on public sex. like yall will see someone in a collar or, god forbid, a leash and act like someone just got fully naked in and showed you their junk instead of like,,,, wearing an accessory??? even like, puppy play or bdsm gear or whatever, it's just a costume they're wearing. like people will see kink gear at pride and be like wow that's so inappropriate they essentially whipped their junk out and started having hardcore sex in front of me :// like no, you saw someone wearing an outfit. it's like the equivalent of someone wearing lingerie out in public but lingerie that didn't actually show anything. like yeah, maybe it makes you a little uncomfortable bc it's not what you're used to seeing or whatever, and like that's fine you can feel whatever you do, but your discomfort doesn't mean you can dictate to other people what they can and can't do. seeing straight ppl make out on the bus makes me uncomfortable, but i don't think het pda should be illegal or whatever

#kink at pride discourse #idk i'm not like an expert but some of yall really seem to think a leather puppy mask is the same as full on nudity and it really isn't #idk ive seen a lot of really weird takes about kink at pride already this year #idk about yall but i've never actually seen anything inapropriate at a pride parade #like if you see someone in kink gear and you're like can't believe they're telling me how they like to have sex that's maybe a you problem #idk i think the 'don't do a kink scene in public bc i didn't consent to see it' thing really rotted some people's brains #like yeah obviously don't do actually inappropriate shit in public but idk wearing clothes that fully cover your ass seems fine

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neopronouns · 2 years

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original rainbow flag | pink triangle | biangles leather | bear | lavender stripe rainbow flag

‘queer as in fuck you’ edits for @vampire-clowns-r-us and anon! requests for these are open!

image id: square images of each listed flag with large, all-caps white text outlined in black that says ‘queer as in fuck you’. end id.

dni transcript here

#queer as in fuck you #my edits #my icons #mogai #pride #pride month #pride edit #rainbow flag #pink triangle #biangles #bi triangles #leather #bear #lavender stripe flag #q power #swearing #kink ment #do not discourse in the notes lol

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alternis · 3 months

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evey day I find a new problem that Hemp does or would solve

#I don't even use weed man #what do you mean the random moisturiser that helps with my eczema works bc it has hemp seed oil #I know in my heart if we all hold hands and chant 'vegan leather discourse over please' somehow we'll find a miracle hemp leather

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lacewise · 4 months

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Last post on pleather being marketed as “vegan leather”: this change occurred BEFORE the ubiquity of fast fashion (mid-2000s, was already a grassroots shift when I was in school) and anyone telling you otherwise is trying to trick you. It did not start with mainstream or burgeoning fast fashion brands. (If I’m remembering my experience correctly, I’m pretty sure it started with consumers themselves.)

I forgot the age demographics of the internet and assumed everyone else also remembered that.

Although I am curious about the people younger than me who seemingly don’t have anyone older to ask about v mainstream societal shifts?

(I do remember people bringing up that it was probably a psyop from the oil industry around the mid-2010s but then vegans sent everyone trying to exonerate them death threats and said PETA was right, if you’re wondering where that conversation disappeared to. I’ve been on the internet way too long.)

#off topic #not directly fiber arts #leather #‘vegan’ leather #plant leather is still mostly plastic #pleather #Discourse(TM)#white vegans

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iwantyoursexmp3 · 7 months

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a new lesbian character has entered the dallon literary universe/lover boy sphere

#the lover boy lesbian and gay solidarity is very important to me #i need to read more on lesbian + butch history in sf just generally but i can see beau finding a lot of connection with his lesbian besties #esp w his own identity as a leather gay man + bonding over shared experiences and same feelings experienced differently #i love solidarity i love community etc!#also not to briefly and vaguely comment on tumblr queer discourse but it annoys me how some posts i see take the whole idea of #'blending' within queer identities and how the lines are actually really blurred if ur not chronically online!!!#when its like...when you look at the history you see a lot of really beautiful instances of solidarity and community and sharing culture #that still do that with an understanding of boundaries and differences #but like to me its about how the ways different groups can come together! and the ways they don't!#especially as like. a transmasc who still feels closely connected to their time as a lesbian but doesnt want to be seen AS one anymore #and believes i can have that connection without needing to stay in a space that i no longer see myself a part of. which is okay!#that was a tangent but its been on my mind both w RR/lover boy and my own personal experiences LOL #anyway i think their name is ximena! love when i think about how lovely a name is and then a whole person materialises in my head #thats how half of my character creations go....

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convertgrapeling · 2 years

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"i haven't agreed to be part of your scene" applies when someone is either having public sex or doing something that is explicitly foreplay. and it has to be a specifically non-sexual space.

seeing someone in leather clothes, even as a gimp, is not you being "involved in a scene" or else everyone who watched Pulp Fiction would be traumatised. seeing someone with a puppy mask is not "being involved in a scene." you see straight cis people doing more explicitly sexual things in popular media all the damn time.

your consent is not required for other people to do things that you have spuriously decided are "dirty" because you don't like being reminded sex exists. if that's a mental health trigger for you, there are ways to avoid or manage those triggers.

p.s. don't bring your kids to pride

#urgh i said i wouldn't do discourse this year #Pride #discourse #lgbtq #this happened cos someone posted a cute pic of a dog in a leather daddy outfit #and people were seriously talking about consent in the notes #how contrived do you even have to be

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