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wot reread: new spring (chapters 1-4)

spoilers for new spring and as far into the main series as knife of dreams

NS is actually going to end up having at least one more post than expected, because despite being shorter than CoT & KoD, NS feels a lot more substantive.

1. Jordan is pretty good at these evocative setting descriptions and helping the reader feel what the environment is like by what the character is feeling. Lan Mandragoran is currently thinking about the dangers of fighting the Aiel and this chapter is about introducing us to this younger version of Lan but it’s also about fixing us in time -- the Aiel have poured over the Spine of the World, have already destroyed Cairhien. It’s nearly but not quite time for the prophecy that kicks off Moiraine’s search for Rand.

2. Lan thinks about how he avoids Aes Sedai as much as possible, because of how it’s said that they tie strings to people and seldom care who they use up in their schemes. Something that is really sad to me about the book series, and something I hope maybe the show can change, is how Lan probably thinks just this thing about Moiraine again now, after what she did with the bond. Moiraine blames her and Lan growing apart on him getting attached to Rand and Nynaeve, but she is on the same side as Rand and Nynaeve so their goals were aligned. She’s the one who burned the bridges between them by not respecting Lan’s choices and making plans ‘for him’ rather than making plans ‘with him’. The relationship between Aes Sedai and Warder seems more balanced in the show so far, so I’m interested to see where they take Moiraine and Lan’s relationship in the future and how that balances out against his growing relationship(s) with Nynaeve and Rand.

3. We meet one of Lan’s teachers, Bukama, and we learn here that Lan was trained to be a silent warrior from a very young age. Raising a child all their life to fight in a doomed war is... honestly pretty depressing. It certainly makes sense that this was his childhood, given what we know of who he is in the main series, though. Bukama is one of the five warriors who survived the journey out of Malkier, when Lan’s parents sent him away to safety as the Blight swallowed up their country. We learn that even though he was sent away as an infant, Lan still thinks of Malkier as his home and feels the pull to go north. We also learn that Lan’s teacher believes that all the Aiel are sworn to the Dark One. Yikes, bro.

4. We are currently two years into the Aiel War -- Cairhien has been burned and... okay, the geography here is confusing me. Lan thinks about how the Aiel went through Cairhien, then they apparently swung south into Tear and the west into Andor, and now they’re attacking Tar Valon... from the west? The only way this makes sense is if they are following the fleeing King Laman. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. And no one currently fighting knows that they’re just here to kill this one guy -- they are just assuming it’s a full-scale invasion (though we know it was just four out of the twelve clans).

5. “What Aes Sedai knew, they held close, and doled out by dribbles and drops when and if they chose.” Honestly, this is actually the Aes Sedai trait that bites them in the ass the most, once we get to modern times. Moiraine was trained to keep secrets and manipulate people politically first as a Cairhienin but then refined it as an Aes Sedai, and (not always Aes Sedai! There’s a lot of people who keep secrets) secrecy causes a lot of issues throughout the series. A brief list of things that it Would Have Been Nice To Know:

If Siuan had been open and honest with Gawyn and Galad, neither of those boys would have fallen into bad company. They are dedicated heart and soul to Elayne -- USE THAT instead of stonewalling them.

If Moiraine had been honest with Rand instead of playing games with him and encouraging his other advisors to leave, lots of issues in future books could have been avoided. I’ve talked about this one multiple times in my reread.

No one ever tells Rand anything, especially if they are Aes Sedai. In general, people try to ‘manage’ Rand instead of communicating with him like a person (yes, I am VERY MUCH including Min in this; Min is constantly ‘managing’ Rand instead of talking to him like a grown-up).

iirc, Rand is also stonewalled on Elayne’s activities in Tanchico, told that they’re “Aes Sedai” business, despite them being actively and entirely related to him. The entire reason that Elayne and Nynaeve go to Tanchico is to address a danger to RAND and yet he only gets the tiniest morsels of information about what happens there.

Egwene & Moiraine refused to give Rand any details about Salidar (not even the name), which leads to him massively underestimating their numbers and sending Mat in with an offer to help them that they just find offensive and terrifying, and which eventually ends up with Mat getting trapped in a crappy marriage with a slaver instead of being Rand’s general.

Instead of trying to send a message back to Rand, ever at any point, Egwene sends Mat off to Ebou Dar with Elayne and keeps his army as long as she can. Egwene never tries to contact Rand to create an alliance between the rebels and the Dragon Reborn -- it was pre-Egwene Salidar who sent the embassy to him, and it’s Rand who sends first Mat and then Merise & Narishma to try to talk to Egwene (as of KoD).

Elayne, Nynaeve, Egwene, and Min apparently never told anyone on Rand’s side after Falme that the sul’dam are capable of channeling too and that the Seanchan are completely unaware that channeling learners are a thing that even exists. Min doesn’t tell Rand this even after he starts fighting against the new invasion of the Seanchan. This is something that would have actually made her relationship with Rand have a point, if she’d given him that information when it became relevant. (I do understand Egwene not mentioning it - a. because of The Trauma and b. at that point, they didn’t have any reason to believe the Seanchan would be back any time soon). Like when I realized in TPoD that Rand didn’t know about the sul’dam secret, I’m pretty sure I actually blue-screened in my reread. HOW was it even possible, I wondered!

...did they ever even tell Moiraine or Verin? Or was this literally a Wondergirls + Min secret until Rand sent the sul’dam/damane pairs to Elayne and she told the people in her storyline? Like, a lot of secrets, I understand why people keep them even if I wish they’d be more trusting with their allies. But this is a secret about AN ENEMY that would greatly weaken them if it were publicly known - it should be trumpeted far and wide! Elayne should have sent out a public proclamation from Caemlyn after she escaped Ebou Dar! EVERYONE on Rand’s side should know about this! There’s no reason to keep it a secret! The only people keeping this a secret benefits are the Seanchan military & nobility! Honestly, I feel like the only reason that the sul’dam secret stays a secret is Jordan putting his finger on the scale in favor of the Seanchan, because it makes zero tactical sense but it sure does give them an advantage!

Elayne, Aviendha, Nynaeve and their various hangers-on never tell Rand that his best friend was left behind in enemy territory. I guess Rand probably eventually figured out that SOMETHING WEIRD happened with Mat going to Salidar but no one has ever told him the story. That’s his best friend! WTF, guys!

On Rand’s side, he doesn’t tell Elayne and Aviendha that he’s going to cleanse saidin. Literally baffling choice on his part. I understand keeping it a secret in general (before it happens) but not from literally two of your romantic partners.

Now, to a certain extent, secrecy is understandable, especially since there are Black Ajah in the White Tower. But if you can’t trust the Dragon Reborn not to be a Darkfriend, then you (and the whole world) are screwed anyway. So much of this ties back to Jordan’s apparently firm belief that men and women find communication with each other incredibly difficult and hazardous at every turn. But also it feels like Jordan didn’t know when to stop. Same thing with Rand’s downward spiral tbh. It felt like he knew how to make it worse but didn’t know how to make it better (which is why I very much doubt he could have actually finished the books series in fewer pages than Sanderson managed and suspected it would have been a GREAT DEAL longer tbh). He was just addicted to people not talking to each other.

6. Lan notes that it seems like every thousand years, some huge war happens -- a thousand years after the Breaking of the World was the Trolloc Wars. A thousand years after that, it was the War of a Hundred Years after Artur Hawkwing’s Empire fell. And there are rumors that the Dark One was involved in that war as well. And he’s thinking that this Aiel War is the current Next Horrible Thing but little does he know that the Last Battle is scheduled to happen in his lifetime. ~dramatic irony~

7. But Lan’s belief that the Dark One is directing all these great wars is why he came south and pledged to fight against the Aiel, and he no longer believes that the Aiel are servants of the Dark One, so he’s doubting his reasons for being here now (but he’s made an oath, so he’ll stick it out to the end).

8. Lan struggles with an internal culture clash -- the way he was raised in the Borderlands tells him that the recently arrived Tairen Lord who has come with a message about a new battle plan is behaving extremely rudely and making it impossible for Lan to respond to him properly as well. Because the Tarien Lord didn’t offer his name, Lan believes that he can’t ask the man his name without sounding boastful so he just... never finds out the guy’s name. Lan is so upset by how rude this guy is being that he needs to find the ko’di (the oneness; what Rand was taught as ‘the flame and the void’) so that he doesn’t fly off the handle. Nameless messenger rides off. We also learn here that apparently Borderlander culture is nearly as big on dueling on Ebou Dari culture is, as challenging people to duels for being rude is a thing up in the Borderlands. I feel like we were not given this info in the main series.

9. Interesting! Lan thinks about how there are some Malkieri in the consolidated forces against the Aiel but Lan will not lead them. Part of how he feels like he has to face his burden against the Shadow alone, I’m guessing? (a bad habit that he passed on to Rand while training him)

10. ...does Lan have a beard? I could have sworn that a beard has never been mentioned, but he thinks of a kid here as a “beardless youth”. The kid is apparently a “cheerful killer” and an archer of rare skill.

11. Okay, Lan is currently in sight of the White Tower itself during this battle, it seems. That wasn’t entirely clear until now. He’s three leagues away from Tar Valon. He sees Dragonmount and thinks about how it is a mountain of prophecy, a prophecy of hope and despaired that would be fulfilled “one day”, but he definitely doesn’t believe that it will be any time soon.

12. Ah, Lan here is able to ignore the cold, and the ‘trick’ that he uses is just “the oneness”, but used in a slightly different way. I guess that’s what it was meant when we were told that it was simply a matter of concentration.

13. The Aiel who are coming (at least twice what Lan was told they would be) spot Lan among the other soldiers and recognize him. I don’t think we’re ever actually told why the Aiel care enough about Lan to give him a special name. They don’t normally care about the wetlands, so why would they mark the fall of Malkier? A mystery! Anyway, the Aiel don’t attack, probably because they killed Laman and it’s time to go home, but they don’t explain that to anyone. They just leave. It actually kinda sounds like Lan might have been set up to die here and the plan only failed because the Aiel had accomplished their task? Hmm.

14. We shift gears and head into the White Tower to ‘meet’ Moiraine Damodred. She is inside the White Tower, in the Amyrlin’s sitting room along with her “closest friend” Siuan Sanche, and she is also very cold. We learn that she’s an Accepted and that, even from inside the White Tower, she can smell the smoke from the burned villages around Tar Valon.

15. Since the war began, the Accepted have all been confined to the Tower grounds. Moiraine is frustrated and feels like she has a right to know how the war is going, since her uncle is the one who started it all. In addition to Moiraine and Siuan, the other two people in the room are Tamra (Amyrlin Seat) and Gitara (currently Keeper for the Amyrlin and the person who, before she came back to the White Tower, set up the events in Andor that would lead to the creation of the very person she’s about to have a Foretelling about). Moiraine has a lot of admiration for Tamra -- a leader that she sees as fair and just, and often kind.

16. Gitara, on the other hand, Moiraine views as usually fair and always just... but never kind. She’s believed to be over three hundred years old, which is old even for Aes Sedai. Moiraine notes that both Gitara and Tamra seem nervous -- Gitara has spent the last four hours ‘writing’ a letter (mostly staring at blank paper) and Tamra has been reading the same page for hours as well. They had not been nervous when she’d seen them yesterday. This is also the third day of fighting in the area of Tar Valon. Gitara and Tamra are the only two full Aes Sedai currently in the Tower -- the rumor is that the rest of the Aes Sedai are out helping heal their wounded soldiers, who are getting injured in great numbers.

17. We get our first Moiraine/Siuan “aaah” moment in the book when Moiraine sees Siuan smiling at her and notes that it turns her face from “handsome to pretty” and makes her clear blue eyes twinkle. We also learn here in a side note that white is color of mourning in Cairhien, which I’m not sure we ever learned in the main series. The two things that Moiraine found most difficult when she was a novice was wearing white all the time and learning to rein in her temper (so both Moiraine and Lan are established here as having tempers that they must keep reined in).

18. Moiraine/Siuan “aaah” moment number two: “Siuan had that gift, making her smile when she wanted to frown and laugh when she wanted to weep.” She and Siuan have some things in common: they are both orphans (mothers died when they were young; fathers have died in the time since they entered the White Tower) and both were born with the spark. The differences between them are more substantial -- culturally, “wealthy” Moiraine comes from a place that respects Aes Sedai and she was given a “grand dance” in the Sun Palace to celebrate her departure for the White Tower; while “poor” Siuan comes from a land where channeling is outlawed and she had to leave on a ship for the White Tower as soon as her channeling was discovered. Siuan also has full control over her temper, is good at puzzles (Moiraine is not), hates horses (Moiraine is a horse girl), and Siuan is a much quicker learner in all things outside the One Power (which they learned at an equal pace). Moiraine and Siuan both completed their novice training in three years, which only one other woman has ever done (”detestable” Elaida). Elaida also completed her Accepted training in a record three years and Moiraine and Siuan hope to outdo her in that.

19. Moiraine/Siuan “aaah” moment number three: “Moiraine was all too aware of her own shortcomings, but she thought that Siuan would make a perfect Aes Sedai.” Awwww. She has so much admiration and affection for Siuan.

20. The sound of hundreds of trumpets comes from the battlefield and Moiraine is told to go and see if there is news, while Siuan makes tea. Moiraine has just returned to report there is no news, when a terrified Gitara bolts to her feet and has her Foretelling (about Rand): “He is born again! I feel him! The Dragon takes his first breath on the slopes of Dragonmount! He is coming! He is coming! Light help us! Light help the world! He lies in the snow and cries like thunder!” Then she slumps into Moiraine’s arms and dies. Tamra orders the both of them to tell no one about Gitara’s Foretelling -- as far as they are concerned, she died without speaking.

21. lol, the way Moiraine describes how drafty the White Tower is, it sounds like a misery to live in. Aaah moments number four: Siuan suggesting having breakfast not because she herself is hungry but just to keep Moiraine company if SHE’S hungry.

22. Moiraine thinks about how glad she is that the White Tower hasn’t rubbed away all of Siuan’s rough edges -- they’re a part of her (moment #5). She also thinks about how Siuan is a natural leader and she’s glad to follow her (moment #6) and that she believes Siuan will be a Sitter and an Amyrlin in the future.

23. Genuinely SO sad for Siuan’s lost dreams here? She wants to travel! She wants to explore! She wants to see what’s beyond the horizon! (sadly, it’s just slavers beyond that horizon). Moiraine feels a pang of sadness at the idea of Siuan going off on her adventures alone, without Moiraine (moment #7).

24. haha, hilarious! Gitara’s Foretelling LITERALLY SAID he “takes his first breath” and yet Moiraine thinks about how it means that the Dragon Reborn will be born “soon”. Pretty sure it just happened, Moiraine. I get why she thinks that. It is called a FOREtelling, but it’s funny.

25. Getting some very nice and useful description of what the White Tower looks like here. The Wondergirls spent so little time in the White Tower itself, comparatively speaking -- only a handful of months (yet still so much more training than any of the boys get). Moiraine and Siuan have been there for over three years at this point, learning things. Honestly, one of the big things that tripped Jordan up in the series was that the timelines really got skewed because the boys were all tripping into leadership without doing training beforehand, while the two female characters who become leaders spend a lot of time doing pre-leadership stuff. So by the time Egwene is ready to be Amrylin and Elayne is ready to be Queen, so much of Rand, Mat, (and especially) Perrin’s storylines have already been burned through, so they ended up just treading water while Elayne and Egwene do their leadership arcs.

26. I like this dive into Moiraine’s opinion on the Prophecies, because that’s going to be what influenced the way she treated Rand once she found him: that the Prophecies say he will fight the Dark One but do not say if he will succeed. That it is known that he will channel tainted saidin, which means that he will go mad and thus she worries that the Dragon’s victory has the potential just as bad as the Dark One’s victory, though she reassures herself that it must be better, if only slightly. Actually a lot of the characterization that we see in the show’s Moiraine is laid out here in New Spring. In general, between this and the still-alive Siuan relationship, it does feel like Rafe kinda gently lifted the NS!Moiraine and placed her into EotW!Moiraine.

27. Moiraine now thinks about how few women occupy the White Tower in comparison to how many it was housed to hold -- less than half of the rooms for Accepteds are filled, while back when the White Tower was at its strongest, the rooms held two women to a room, so the White Tower is essentially operating at a quarter of the strength that the founders planned for it to use. The waning influence of the White Tower is a fairly large and looming plotpoint for much of the main series -- the reforms that Egwene wants to make would return the White Tower to the numbers that it once used to boast. The White Tower is failing, Moiraine thinks to herself. But she also thinks: “The Tower taught its students to live with what they could not change too. But some things were important enough to try even if you were sure to fail.”

28. Moiraine and Siuan are so emotionally close that Moiraine feels a ~tingle when Siuan channels (moment #8). "The tingle was unusual. Women who spent a lot of time together in their training sometimes felt it, but the sensation was supposed to fade away over time. Hers and Siuan’s never had. Sometimes Moiraine thought it was a sign of how close their friendship was.”

29. They are also pranksters (though it’s a common thing in general, to relieve the tension of how stressful the training is). They pranked Elaida harder than anyone else, because of how hard she was on them during their novice lessons, holding them to impossibly high standards. They had one year with Elaida when she was still an Accepted, then one where she had the shawl, and then she was gone. So, wow, Elaida became Morgase’s advisor after only being Aes Sedai for a year? And she’s been gone from the Tower for years now but Moiraine still thinks of her as The Worst (tm).

30. Moiraine and Siuan practice for the test to become Aes Sedai and we learn the details of how the test works -- the student must create a hundred different weaves “perfectly and in a precise order while under great stress” and maintaining complete calm. So the ‘Aes Sedai coldness’ is essentially their last great test before they become Sisters. They have to be able to focus and remain calm despite provocations. I have so much curiosity about how these traditions got started, because I’m pretty sure this test is yet another “ter’angreal that was originally created for another unknown purpose but, hey, we figure it works well enough for this” like the one for going from novice to Accepted. But I feel like some kind of testing was certainly in place back in the Age of Legends, because the Aiel Wise Ones also test using a ter’angreal.

31. It’s interesting to hear about how difficult it is for them to use more than one or two weaves at once, because I’ve gotten used to being in Rand & the Wondergirls PoVs, who are all massively powerful by comparison and are able to split their flows much more easily. And, of course, Moiraine herself is much better at it twenty years from now as well. Hmm, I also wonder if these intricate “useless” weaves are possibly handed down from before the Breaking unchanged, because they don’t “require” hand gestures (which none of the weaves do, but the current Aes Sedai believe that they do). Creating beautiful weaves for the sake of being beautiful and not for any particular purpose sounds like art and not survival-mode (as things tend to be in the current Age).

32. Which takes me to a tangent on which weaves survived. Healing in particular, it’s fascinating to me that the big Healing weaves didn’t survive, only the most basic ‘battlefield’ healing. The one that was less intricate, that was easier to teach and easier to use, because it didn’t require as many flows being divided? Or Traveling and Skimming... those, I wonder if they perhaps got lost because the Breaking of the World changed the landscape so much that the weaves for Traveling and Skimming stopped working for a time. But also, so many of the most powerful channelers who could handle those ‘big’ weaves likely died in the fighting and, then, in the aftermath of the counterstroke and the Breaking of the World.

33. Yikes! Moiraine thinking here about how the Dragon Reborn would need to be gentled after he wins the Last Battle. “A grim fate, to save the world if he could, then for reward be cut off from this wonder [of using the One Power]”. Moiraine and Siuan are talking here about how likely it is that the Red Sisters would be able to hold back from gentling even the Dragon Reborn, as there are rumors that they don’t try very hard to take men who can channel alive. She thinks about how it should count as murder but she can almost understand why it doesn’t, given how destructive men who can channel end up becoming (due to the taint on the Source).

34. I feel like Jordan pulls a bit of a retcon here when he notes that Myrelle thinks that the Last Battle might be coming due to the presence of the Aiel outside the Waste. IIRC, we don’t really get any hint that the Aiel are believed by any Sisters to be involved in the Prophecies when Moiraine is arguing with Rand back in The Shadow Rising. But here, it’s said that Sisters have been arguing over the subject back and forth since the beginning of the Aiel War.

35. One of the ways that Siuan attempts to distract Moiraine during their practicing for the shawl test are “embarrassing caresses” *wiggles eyebrows* (moment #9).

36. Our next White Tower cameo is Tarna. She spent nine years as a novice, and has few friends. She’s come to tell them that novices and Accepted have a free day from classes today, because Gitara has died. Luckily, this means that Myrelle assumes that this is the ‘secret’ that Siuan and Moiraine were hiding from her.

37. Ah, interesting, Moiraine thinks here that getting Tuatha’an novices is just as rare as getting Atha’an Miere, but we (the readers) know that the Atha’an Miere are deliberately hiding from the White Tower how many channelers they have and how strong those channelers are by only occasionally sending relatively weak in the Power women to make it look like they just don’t have the talent at the Power. With the Tuatha’an... we’re told that “they did not want to channel or become Aes Sedai” and if anyone is discovered to have the spark, she is immediately taken to the White Tower, so that puts a darker spin on them being so eager to live in Seanchan lands in KoD. Perhaps they’re fully willing to throw their poor sparkers at the Seanchan as the blood-price for the rest of them getting to live protected. Also, Verin is shorter than Moiraine, which I hadn’t known before!

38. Oooh, Tamra’s secret hunt for the Dragon Reborn is that she is offering a ‘thanksgiving’ bounty to any woman who gave birth “between the day when the first soldiers arrived and the day the threat ended”. The Accepted are to be sent out to try to record the names of all these women and their information. We’re reminded that Whitecloaks are currently part of the consolidated forces and “if he can safely put an arrow through [an Accepted’s] back, it will please him as much as if she were an Aes Sedai”, so the threat of the Whitecloaks was present twenty years ago as well. That’s another place where it feels like the show drew on New Spring for inspiration. Moiraine thinks “when an Aes Sedai went out into the world and vanished, as sometimes happened, the first thought was always the Whitecloaks. The Children called Aes Sedai Darkfriends and claimed that touching the One Power was blasphemy punishable by death, a sentence they were all too willing to carry out”. And Moiraine and Siuan are the only two here who know that Tamra is sending them out to try to find the Dragon Reborn.

39. Ah, Moiraine gets a ‘getting ready for traveling’ scene here, like she does in the opening of the show, including making sure to bring her dagger with her. I am reminded of how much Jordan liked to describe clothing in great depth, though. I have to admit, I absolutely skim over his descriptions of clothing most of the time, because I just. Don’t care that much lol.

40. I have to admit, when I originally read this in publication order (which was between CoT & KoD), I’m pretty sure that it made going into KoD make me despise the Seanchan even more deeply, because of how we get to see the inner workings of the White Tower and get to see more of the people that the Seanchan/Tuon will remorselessly brutalize in twenty years (this thought came to mind as I ran across a mention of Edesina, who is one of the Aes Sedai who came with Mat out of Ebou Dar). I must profess my PROFOUND bafflement that Jordan could choose to write the Seanchan storyline the way that he did in CoT & KoD in Perrin’s and Mat’s storylines and yet, in between those books, he wrote this prequel which showcased the complicated humanity of all of these women that Tuon and her Empire want to strip of their rights and freedoms. What was going on in his brain? How did he reconcile writing NS with having Mat genuinely feel like he “more than likes” slaver empress Tuon (who he is still terrified will enslave him, personally) and Perrin thinking about what a likable person his slaver BFF Tylee is (while she’s in the active process of enslaving people)? Baffling. CoT & KoD just... screwed over all the momentum of the Seanchan storyline, presumably all for the sake of a spin-off series that will never happen.

41. Moiraine bought a horse for herself to celebrate being made Accepted and she’d wanted to buy Siuan one as well (moment #10) but anti-horsegirl Siuan refused the offer.

42. lol, Moiraine disses on the random Andorans in Tar Valon so hard. “stubborn, overproud, and they lacked imagination”. And you’re gonna get stuck with five of them in the future! lol. She hates how plainly they dress, too, in comparison with people from other countries. We also get a very loving description of Tar Valon here (pg 69-70, for reference). Moiraine feeling so awed at actually being allowed to leave Tar Valon even though she’s still only Accepted is another fascinating contrast against how not-normal Egwene, Nynaeve, and Elayne’s experience in the White Tower was.

43. Yeah, the brazenness of the Whitecloaks here, momentarily blocking Moiraine & Co’s path out of Tar Valon, very much reminds me of the angle that Rafe took with the Whitecloaks in the first season.

44. “After six years practically in one another’s belt pouches” (moment #11). And Moiraine makes Siuan blush here. We see that they help keep each other in check and from going too far, when necessary.

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