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jullsisfangirling · 2 months
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I hated ACOSF "extra chapter" and here's why
First of all, I hated because of the Rhysand we receive in it. He's very angry and he treats Az like shit.
Why would the same person that sacrificed Prythian and only saved a city, that his nightmares where solely about his brothers being raped and stolen from happiness; why would this person ask Azriel if he thinks he deserved not only something but someone. Why.
Why would the person that was intentionally ignoring his mating bond in order to let the other part of the bond being happy, the person that knows that the mating bond doesnt guarantee love but "genetically better children" force a relationship that Elain has been forcefully putting away from herself for years? Why?
The Rhysand we know will likely kill Prythian entirely to make his family happy, to guarantee their happiness.
I hated the way he acted towards Az.
I hated how we are presented as "Az took the gift he already gave someone and gave it to another" TO GWYN.
Like ???? Gwyn doesnt deserve to be second option, I dont give a fuck about what any of you say about the shadows and stuff.
One minute he is all about "I dont care anymore" anout to be on his knees for Elain and the next one he is giving THAT FCKNG NECKLACE TO SOMEONE ELSE? Like ????
Gwyn deserves more than that. Elain deserves more than that. But most of all Az deserves much more than just "adapt". Let the man be happy for fucks sake.
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copypastus · 5 months
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Feyre's selective hearing is the origin of my villain arc.
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yaralulu · 1 month
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I think it’s crazy that rhys is constantly going on about how he can’t ever forgive lucien and he’s still trying to make his peace with him and how he can just about stomach him because what the fuck is he talking about 😍??
Is he forgetting that just a few years ago he was the one terrorizing lucien ,threatening him,demeaning him with stupid nicknames,taunting him with his dead lover and estranged mother every single time he saw him??
Is he forgetting that lucien had his ass handed to him UTM just for feyre—that he saved her life twice and was willing to die/get tortured for her??but sure rhys you’re the one that has to find it in you to forgive lucien.I really need rhys to get his head out of his own ass and realize that nobody likes him lol 🗣️🙏.
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littlefeltsparrow · 1 month
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There’s a problem with the way Sarah J Maas depicts physical abuse/intimidation in ACOTAR
The fact that Tamlin’s physical abuse of Feyre being communicated through a magical/emotional outburst is problematic in the sense that it undercuts the reason why abuse happens. Incorporating magical concepts into a portrayal of domestic violence muddles the issue at hand and makes the abuse an accidental consequence of involuntary magical impulses as opposed to a deliberate tactic of intimidation and control. This issue is exacerbated by the fact that Feyre too, experiences an uncontrollable magical/emotional outburst during the High Lords meeting due to Beron’s provocative remarks. To be clear, I don’t view Tamlin as detestable or as an irredeemable abuser, but the text very much does. What I want to comment on is the problematic framing of Tamlin’s actions that are meant to characterize him as an abusive partner to Feyre.
So, I’m going to compare and contrast a scene from ACOMAF with a scene from ACOWAR, both of which depict magical outbursts that are brought on by intense emotional stress or rage.
ACOMAF
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Here, Feyre objects to Tamlin’s protective measures he had enacted earlier. She expresses how suffocated she feels and how she wishes that she had the breathing room to cope with her new reality and that Tamlin’s actions are making her suffer. Furthermore, Feyre introduces her doubt in their engagement and expresses her reservations. Tamlin then goes blank, reacting explosively with his power blowing the room into splinters.
This is a good first step towards characterizing Tamlin as an abusive partner (despite the leaps it took to get there) But, where it goes wrong is the emphasis the text puts on Tamlin's blank expression and subsequent magical response. He loses control momentarily, but the issue about this portrayal is that abuse is not "losing control" or accidental, it is a conscious decision made by the abuser. But here, Maas makes it seem as though Tamlin really was not in control, that the heightened emotions made him react that way.
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It gives Tamlin an out and consequently undercuts the message Maas is trying to communicate. Bringing magic into the scene takes away Tamlin's agency and removes a portion of his culpability in harming Feyre.
This scene should not have been Tamlin simply losing control of his temper, if Maas wanted to enhance her abuse narrative, she should have taken Tamlin’s temper and had him weaponize it. Intimidation is a possibility, one that would work towards making Feyre feel scared about voicing ver true feelings on their relationship. But Maas doesn’t go all the way, she doesn’t lean into that interpretation and instead plays it straight.
This is also undercut by Tamlin's second magical outburst in ACOWAR. Feyre intentionally provoking him does nothing for Maas's abuse narrative and actively undermines it by strengthening the idea that Tamlin's destructive outbursts really were caused by overwhelming emotions. Once again, it gives Tamlin a way out and dilutes the message.
The notion of an involuntary magical outburst is applied again in ACOWAR
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Beron’s inflammatory remarks provoke an immediate reaction from Feyre, she goes blank so to speak, and can no longer focus due to the intensity of her emotions. This manifests in a fiery outburst that throws the meeting into disarray and injures the Lady of Autumn accidentally.
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She’s so angry that she can’t think straight or logically, and it manifests in an attack. Though this isn't exactly the same, Feyre's "blinding fury" is so powerful that it cannot be restrained and ends up harming an innocent party. This moment strengthens the case for magic manifesting strong emotions as external attacks, characterizing it to some extent as involuntary.
Ultimately, the magical element removes the agency of the individuals in question. It frames their violence not as a conscious act designed to inspire fear, but as a genuinely accidental reaction to intense emotions. This is why the "Tamlin is an evil abuser" narrative is so weak. Because it dilutes the severity of the violence and makes it seem as though these kinds of emotional outbursts are an element of possessing magical powers. It gestures at a larger issue of Maas picking and choosing when and where she wants to apply real-world standards to her characters' morality. It makes events less believable and hypocritical, making allowances for certain characters, but condemning others without adequate narrative set-up.
This is why Maas is fundamentally incapable of recognizing the abusive dynamic she constructs with Feysand. It is a combination of double standards, authorial bias and a misunderstanding of how abuse manifests.
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arson-09 · 15 days
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Tamlin plays the fiddle and loves to write, lucien is lucien (positive) and Eris is a dog dad
and i am supposed to have rhysand as number 1 ??? sjm lets be fr here
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lorcandidlucienwill · 6 months
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“My apologies, lady. I’m Lucien. Courtier and emissary. Your eyes are like stars, and your hair like burnished gold.” “We’re not going to bite.” Lucien’s white teeth gleamed in a way that suggested otherwise. “If I offer you the moon on a string, will you give me a kiss, too?” “So there’s singing and dancing and excessive drinking,” Lucien chimed in, falling into step beside me. “And dallying,” he added with a wicked grin. Lucien was crouched over me, frowning. “I couldn’t heal you completely—they would know someone helped you. The bruises are there, along with a hideous black eye, but … all the swelling’s gone.” “And my nose?” I said, feeling it before he answered. “Fixed—as pert and pretty as before.” He smirked at me. “Her name, Emissary?” Amarantha asked of Lucien. But Lucien only glanced at Tamlin before closing his eyes and squaring his shoulders.
Feyre: *falls for Tamlin and Rhysand* Me: 👁️👄👁️
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I adore Nesta and I adore Rhysand.
They are both flawed characters.
Neither is all good or all bad.
And that is where I stand on these fictional characters.
Have a beautiful day!
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anchoredgalaxy · 5 months
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no hang on i'm not done bitching about acosf. the scene where nesta's like "rhysand's a dick" and cassian and azriel both respond with "HOW DARE YOU INSULT PERFECT RHYSAND" is one of the worst scenes i've read in a book. this series' biggest problem is the author's insistence that i should like some characters and dislike others and this one scene is like that distilled into Irritation Juice. i do not care how much the book tries to push "SEE RHYSAND'S THE BEST GUY EVER ISN'T NESTA TERRIBLE FOR DISLIKING HIM" because he's really fucking annoying and i wish he had stayed dead. if rhysand was actually a well-written character, the narrative wouldn't be pushing for me to like him so badly.
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acotarfrustrations · 5 months
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Honestly we could REALLY get into the fact that a lot of the insanity in Acotar is an excellent exercise in why you can't really separate the art from the author.
Sjm's zionism is OBVIOUS in the text. The ic destabilize governments to the detriment of people they will never have to care for, steal artifacts from other countries, displace people, cause invasions, commit war crimes for 50 years "for the greater good" all while their own people are living under unchecked brutality and poverty.
They are rich megalomaniacs that care for no one but themselves and their own emotional and material satisfaction and they are PRAISED for it. In fact anyone who even remotely disagrees with the IC is almost always one of the villains in the story (Beron, Tamlin, etc) as if to condition the reader that asking questions that are critical of the IC puts you on the wrong side of the narrative morally.
All of that sounds REALLL familiar huh?
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lainalit · 1 month
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The girlies who say they had a relationship with a tamlin and their new relationship is with a rhysand, I hate to break it to you, but you have not broken the cycle of abuse; you just switched to an abuser with different tactics.
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lizareads · 1 year
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So you mean to tell me—
That Nesta Archeron, the woman who's wit was sharper than hundreds of year's of old fae bastards—yes, im talking bout rhysie and c/assian— who's beauty was so devastating, who could have been the strongest fucking woman in the damn world ended up in the court of 'dreams' being a housewife and quite literally changing her anatomy for a man who has continuously thrown her worst fears and insecurities in her face?
Sounds fake but ok.
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copypastus · 21 days
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Poly+ ACOTAR Week - Day 3 Secrets (Feyre/Tamlin/Rhysand) @polyacotarweek
I'm weak for 'two enemies put aside their differences coz they love me more than they hate each other' trope and I was somewhat sad that's not where Feyre's love life went. Just think of the possibilities.
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angel-maybe-alive · 1 year
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Worst things that happened to modern literature in my opinion:
Rowling taking over the concept of magic schools then spiraling on being a terf and now flirting with neo Nazis and the alt right.
Twilight popularizing the concept of magical love corner between creepy childhood friend and creepier immortal being ever fighting over the human embodiment of a sandwich made from two slices of white bread and a thin layer of saltless butter
Ready player one
Ready player two
Everything about jay kristoff
literally everything about him sucks
Sarah j Maas
The word fae
Hades and Persephone
Straight enemies to lovers
Straight omegaverse
Being honest I'm coming out as heterophobic here straight people should be banished from writing until you dumbfucks learn the difference between banter and abuse and the word consent also the age of consent laws
Fucking ugly minimalist covers
Did I said already fae because I fucking hate the fae
The 100+ yo dark aesthetic male love interest whose whole personality it's abs and toxic and being a pedophile
Sex (my problem it's not with sex itself as I am a horny mf myself my problem it's the worst books with the most cringeworthy sex scenes being sold as the best thing ever)
I'm talking about blowjob on a warzone bad sex scenes
Seriously why so many people like the concept of Faes
Any book booktok decides it's good
Booktok itself
People who have a whole ass bookshelf of different harry Potter variants
Like it's not even like interesting faes it's just those conventionally attractive european people with mutant powers
To be honest most problems with modern literature could be traced back to fucking harry Potter
Gay and black characters that only exist to be killed and further the white straight girl narrative
Fanfics being publicized as books
Correction the worst fanfics becoming books
And lastly FUCKING FAES WHY EVERYONE WANTS TO FUCK A BOY TINKERBELL FOR FUCK SAKE WHY? AND THEY ARENT EVEN FUCKING ACCURATE FAES EVEN THEY ARE EDGY EARLY 2000 DEMONS WITH LIKE THE TWILIGHT SUPER POWERS AND CRINGE ASS BAT WINGS, AND SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE IF LEGOLAS WAS A TOKTOKER
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yaralulu · 1 month
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The best thing happening in the acotar fandom rn is the tamlin hate dying out.Every time I see a tamlin post I get ready to fight for my life in the comments but now most of them end up being positive and its just crazy witnessing the complete switch up.Just a few months ago saying you like tamlin would’ve gotten you crucified now it’s probably the more popular stance on his character.People are finally understanding the complexity of his character and his actions.They acknowledge him as being flawed but don’t perceive him as a villain anymore.They want him to get his own book and his very overdue healing arc.They’re finally admitting he’s fine as hell—I mean is the world healing or what.
Once we get a tamlin pov and the people who used to senselessly shit on him start liking him,I will be one of those annoying mfs that say “I’ve never hated him” or “I’ve always liked him” because I am pettyyyy 😍.
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arson-09 · 2 months
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I think about sjm trying to say this was about rhysand in acomaf. like did she read her own writing?? god it pisses me off so much😭 Feyre hadnt even met rhysand at this point im pretty sure plus the suriel directly implicates that it means tamlin “high lords manor” like goddamn feysanders rlly hunting for scraps to justify their shitty little retcon ship.
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nightlyteaandpaper · 10 months
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I said this once, and I'll say this again, while Tamlin and Rhysand are both abusive but on different wavelengths, I am still frustrated that Feyre did not say anything to Tamlin about her PTSD and still got mad at Tamlin for not knowing.
Tamlin does not have the power to read minds (as well as he was dealing with his own trauma), but do you know who has the power to read minds? Rhysand. This is why I am less impressed that Rhysand knows how to cater to Feyre vs. Tamlin. He has not one, not two, but three bonds they can communicate through. Rhysand, for a while, saw every detail of Feyre's life, read every thought that coursed through her empty head, and could hear every thought--he better know what she was feeling. This is not impressive, this is expected.
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