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If you Inner Circle stans just admitted that the Inner Circle is fucking toxic and you’d never like such people in real life, I wouldn’t have a problem at all.
If the ACOTAR books were marketed as dark romance rather than YA, I wouldn’t have a problem at all.
If SJM hadn’t started this trend of writing abuser-abuse victim relationships as “enemies to lovers,” I wouldn’t have a problem.
I’m not a snowflake. I like toxic, obsessive relationships in fiction, but not when they’re abusive. Snowbaird is the perfect example of this: toxic, obsessive, and murderous, and I absolutely love them. Because it’s not between an abuser and their abuse victim. I’m also not stupid; I can perfectly acknowledge Coryo is the villain. Would I love Snowbaird in real life? Absolutely not.
It’s even fine to like abuser-abuse victim in fiction as long as you acknowledge it’s abusive and something unacceptable in real life. My problem arises when all YA romances are written like this now. You can write a compelling romance without abuse involved. Teens may not admit it, but we are impressionable. Do you really want the next generation to believe this shit is ok? Just take a look at booktok. The girls on there are scary.
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lainalit · 1 day
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Grown ass women in this fandom: uwu Rhysand has so much trauma he did nothing wrong and if he did the people probably deserved it 🥺👉👈
Also them: Nesta is the worst like how can you as a fourteen year old make your sister hunt and she is so abusive how she called feyre a wild animal and she should suffer more because she told feyre about the pregnancy that will k*ll her 😡😤
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yoddhasblog · 2 days
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I think it's really stupid to believe that somehow the 'bat boys' are the most powerful Illyrians ever. Rhysand as a high lord is of course as powerful as it gets in this line but he's the strongest high lord?? How? Do they have a competition of sorts to decide that??? Rhysand's mother was an illyrian we know as much, but in order for me to believe the legitimacy of his power I'll have to say that illrian women are much more powerful than the men. That's where he inherited his power. Maybe some horrifically insecure leader started wing-clipping to satisfy his own ego??? But this is far-fetched at best because we know SJM didn't think that far.
In the case of Cassian and Azriel, both are fully Illrian. No high lord parentage. There's nothing about their lives or heritage that suggests that they could inherit and possess a power that strong.
Conclusion: the bat boys aren't that powerful. either everyone is just humouring them. or there were many illyrian children just as if not more powerful but as they weren't invited into the super special circle of the dreamers, they are given no importance at all. Maybe it was another bastard. If yes then they probably perished due to their own circumstances. It's perfectly known that illyrian mountains are brutal and children with no one to take care of are just left to starve and freeze to death. These Circumstances could be avoided if their own fucking leaders acknowledge them and actually help with reforms.
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kataraavatara · 18 days
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these were a little too real for tiktok. maybe someday…
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holmespsychoaddict · 4 months
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She spilled 💀
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stargirlie25 · 3 months
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´´Everybody tried to help Nesta but she would not listen!´´
Everybody helping,
“You look horrible,” Amren said… . “though it’s hard to look good,” Amren went on, “when you’re out until the darkest hours of the night, drinking yourself stupid and fucking anything that comes your way.” -Amren
“Your sisters love you. I can’t for the life of me understand why, but they do. If you can’t be bothered to try for my happy little circle’s sake, then at least try for them.”-cassian
“You,” Cassian said from the armchair to her left. “This bullshit behavior.”-cassian
“Nesta is … she’s Illyrian. I mean that as a compliment, but she’s an Illyrian at heart. So there is no excuse for her behavior.”-Rhysand
“I’ll talk to her.” “Don’t,” Elain said flatly, “She won’t listen.” Like hell she wouldn’t.-Feyre and elain
“I want you out of Velaris,”-Feyre
“You have become a pathetic waste of life”-Amren this is actually exactly what nestas abusive grandmother said to her
If i could go to velaris, first person i attack would be amren and id win because this girl cant even reach my shoulder 🤪
The whole Inner circle should die.
I SWEAR ACOWAR CASSIAN WOULD NEVER TALK TO NESTA THAT WAY.
Elains gotta get out of the IC
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achaotichuman · 2 months
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Human Nesta would shake Nessian Nesta by the shoulders screaming "What the fuck is wrong with you???!!!!"
Human Feyre would be drawing her bow trying to shoot Feysand Feyre just so she would never become her.
Human Elain would look at Elucien Elain and be like, "Nice."
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szalonykasztan00 · 4 months
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The difference
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Mostly the pre-acomaf but R/hysand sad songs continue.
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My hottest take is that the Hike From Hell is actually a beating. Like, I struggle to read it any other way than Cassian actually physically abusing Nesta with Rhysand and Feyre's blessing. I don't really see how you could read it any other way.
"But Cassian doesn't touch Nesta, he never lays his hands on her!"
Well what do you call it when a man, at the direction of his boss who is also his brother in law, forces a woman to do strenuous physical activity against her will for days on end? What do you call it when a man forces a woman to carry the heavy supplies, doesn't check if she'd eaten or had water, doesn't allow her to rest, and doesn't allow her to leave the situation until they've had sex and he deems her adequate for society again? He has no kind words for her and he knows that she's In a dark mental spiral and he keeps pushing her until she faints from exhaustion.
I'm serious. What is this, if not physical abuse?
Nesta "acted out" and the men in her life punished her physically for it.
It's genuinely disgusting how this scene is meant as an important step on the so-called healing journey.
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novaricewrites · 3 months
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Very tired of the shadowy/darkness-themed brooding male love interests in fantasy romance books. Especially the ones where the character revolves heavily around sex / sexualization.
This is especially irritating when they are 'healed' or complete as people because they are dating the protag. Seriously. It just promotes that toxic 'You can fix him with love' concept. This is such an inherently harmful message.
Not saying those kind of broody characters shouldn't be allowed to exist at all. However, the dominance of that character type over other portrayals in romance especially, subscribes to the common notion of masculinity having only one desirable form.
The main lead does not have to be the most powerful, the most virile, most tragic or most intimidating.
It's shallow and overdone.
Why can't the men and boys in these leads also be written as thoughtful and warm, sunlight characters. Soft hands and gentle voices. Complex and spirited and vibrant. Let them also be kind, lovely and full of quiet things.
I have so many thoughts on this general topic that go into way too many directions to summarize in one post.
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littlefeltsparrow · 17 days
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Nesta’s emotional breakdown at the end of the hike was not a product of a well-meaning attempt to improve her well-being, but a manipulative pseudo-therapeutic strategy that aimed to simulate vulnerability and masquerade as progress in Nesta’s character arc.
The narrative would have you believe that the hike was an ordeal of self-discovery for Nesta, that Cassian was using a bit of “tough love” to help Nesta get better and grow as a person. But it operates on the idea that exposure to nature, which is presumed to be inherently beneficial, would give Nesta the push she needed to work through her issues and unpack the trauma that had been affecting her all throughout the book. But, this couldn’t be further from the reality that we are shown. Exercise like hiking can be immensely beneficial to one’s mental wellbeing and it can also be therapeutic in some cases, but such benefits are negated when the people involved are subjected to undue hardship and danger during that exercise.
It’s not a coincidence that Nesta opening up to Cassian comes directly after an extremely straining hike, during which she exhausted herself mentally and physically all while in the midst of intense psychological stress. Nobody told her that Feyre was alright after their heated argument, nobody told her that Feyre AGREED that Nesta did the right thing and understood why she did it. Consequently, this omission prolongs Nesta’s emotional anguish and guilt unnecessarily and makes the ordeal of the hike even worse.
Nesta, who has never hiked before in her life, is forced on one against her will, chaperoned by Cassian who does not speak to her and hardly looks at her during the 2 day hike. This is a detail that exposes this hike for what it truly is, a means of breaking Nesta’s spirit to get her back in line. It was never about piecing her back together, it was about shattering her emotionally to punish her for defying Rhysand’s authority. But, the text doesn’t want to admit that, it wants to pretend to make a grand statement on mental health and make a cheap copy of Cheryl Strayed’s memoir “Wild” without any of the pathos. Cassian can feel warm and fuzzy about the accomplishment of opening Nesta’s heart, when in reality, that vulnerability he witnesses is entirely a result of prolonged stress and pain.
So could it be, that Nesta’s emotional “ breakthrough” at the end of the hike, was not due to Cassian’s and the IC’s efforts to help her, but the combined strain of dehydration, exhaustion and intense emotional distress finally catching up with her after repressing it for 2 days straight?
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lorcandidlucienwill · 2 months
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The stupid Inner Circle never told Lucien about the dangers of Feyre’s pregnancy because he wouldn’t have even tried to keep it in out of fear like Nesta, this man is unhinged. He told Amarantha to go back to the shit-hole she crawled out of then came back and defied her again and again. He would’ve dipped and told Feyre as soon as he found out there was a chance of Feyre dying. Then he would’ve gone to Dawn and sought the advice of every damn healer. He probably would’ve even risked telling Tamlin if the Dawn court healers had no advice. That’s just the kind of guy he is.
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lainalit · 12 hours
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Imagine this the court of nightmare + Illyrians working together and occupy Velaris and the inner circle is now imprisoned in hewn city and then feyre demands that they be released and Keir says "You have every comfort and yet it is not enough?" 😌🤚
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yoddhasblog · 7 months
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One thing that makes me rage about ACOTAR every single day is that there is no mention at all about who did the household chores when Feyre was hunting.
It's canon that Feyre doesn't know how to cook. She doesn't do household work. She would spend the day in the forest hunting, which of course is a great thing in itself for a child( she was fourteen I think when she started hunting) but who took care of the house(hut).
Something tells me it wasn't Papa Archeron or Elain. In the first few chapters of Thorns and Roses Nesta had chopped wood twice(I think, it's been a while since I read the book). I'm assuming as there isn't much info about this that Nesta was the one to do all household work. There's cooking, cleaning, laundry, chopping wood, mending clothes, doing repairs around the house if required, groceries, and about a hundred other little tasks that keep a house running smoothly. Feyre didn't do it, Papa Archeron didn't do it, I can bet my life Elain didn't do it. Did magic faeries come to their house at night to do all this.
I don't understand where the narrative that Nesta was a spoiled and lazy girl who sat on her ass and didn't do anything came from. You know, my father had always told my sister and i, that whatever conflict we have between us, we should resolve it amongst ourselves. If you let a bunch of strangers know about the weaklinks in your relationships they will break you both apart. Of course, he tells us this due to our snake-ish relatives but honestly, when I had read about the relationship between the sisters, I wanted to scream at the book to not let the IC exploit their issues for personal gain. Which they did. That's exactly what Rhysand has been doing since he met the sisters.
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kataraavatara · 6 days
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“rhysand + ic have EVERY RIGHT to NEVER forgive Nesta for letting Feyre go out provide for their family at fourteen” please. look at hewn city. rhysand and the ic are literally the reigning champions of watching little girls suffer and not doing a thing to help them. so if anything it really should have been a bonding moment.
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Back in my #1 Rhysand hater phase
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