Modern Davekat is also so
Out of Character, if that makes sense
It's always made to have them both be uwu soft babies but in reality they're both huge dickheads, right, but newer fans won't even have them be toxic together! They're always so dumbed down and made sweet and romantic
I also say modern bc I've been here a while, I do acknowledge that past davekar stuff was also like that, but it was widely accepted as OOC
Also feel free to ignore this, I know that you tend to keep to yourself with shipscourse, but know that I understand!
Have a good day!
No it's totally fine! Usually I feel bad about it but it's just like, I'm not saying I actively dislike it or anything I just. Am so uninterested in their post -canon dynamic and a lot of the fandom portrayals of them, it just doesn't do much for me. And I feel bad because yeah, it does largely feel out of character to me! There are a few good writers out there that still write it decently, to the point that I've added them to my "will read some day" list, but for me the retcon did a lot of damage to my viewing of their relationship, and I genuinely preferred their penis ouija-era dynamic haha
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If you forget about Gwyn after (actually) reading A Court of Silver Flames...
Where Gwyn is Nesta's first proper friend. She is the first to sign up for training. Where they make friendship bracelets together and have sleepovers. Where they train together almost everyday and become valkyries. Where Gwyn is the first to cut the ribbon. Where they went into the blood rite and won it together. Where Gwyn confesses to Nesta and Emerie about her struggles with losing her twin sister and the guilt she feels surrounding it. How she still refuses to wear the stone because she doesn't feel worthy of it. Where it ended with Sarah telling us that even though Gwyn would love to do more, she still went back to the library. Handing us that shit on a silverplatter that Gwyn's journey is not yet over.
Where, in Az' bonus chapter, she was in the second half of it, smiling at his shadows and teasing him. Where it ended with Az thinking about her (Gwyn), and her joy and how he had to stop himself from smiling when he thought of her teal eyes.
...Then maybe... you just.... didn't.... read the book... nor the bc...
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i admit that the only reasons i haven’t watched rebels are petty (ugly skinny lightsabers, a weird grainy texture over everything, missing the geometry of the cw style), but a huge reason is that i just dont vibe with the concept of the world between worlds. it just doesn’t feel like sw to me (which, admittedly, means nothing. but if we were gonna do a time travel thing i think it would have been better to attach it to something already established, like hyper space). I don’t like time travel plots unless the story is fully abt time travel. i dont like alt universes unless the story is fully abt alt universes. i dont like stories about leaving a galaxy if the story isn’t fully an exploration of what it means to be in a completely separate galaxy! and, in that vein, i think i have to admit that i dont really vibe with the whole mortis idea of the father son and daughter? im more accepting of it bc it came out when i was young, but it just feels so out of place to me. idk. this isn’t to say that sw should never try new genres or ideas (they should. where is my horror short series), but it just really seems that i dont vibe with what filoni brings to the table, and the more i think about the new stuff the more i look on the old stuff with sourness.
i’ll probably love rebels when i actually sit down to watch it. and i know that the fact that i haven’t seen it is a huge hinderance to me enjoying the ahsoka show (tho why call it that if its not about her? just make it a rebels sequel??). im just. thinking.
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you think pierre will be forgotten about next year?
This has been sitting in my inbox for a HOT minute, I think based on some tags I may have made a few weeks ago? And now that i'm done finals I'm finally answering it lol what a treat for me.
I think the thing about Pierre is that in the larger fandom, he's already served his big narrative purpose™. The whole narrative arc of getting beat down and shoved away by Red Bull, and pushing through that? Persevering despite everyone telling him "you're as good as done"? Becoming lost in all of the personal and professional tragedy of 2019 and then finding himself again? Becoming a fantastic teammate and someone trusted to lead and then finally finally breaking out of the mold that has shaped him for so long? He's had his little hero's journey already.
Even this year, I think so much of him got... maybe flattened out is not the right word. But I think there was something genuinely SO interesting about the way Pierre rubbed up against everything this past season that was TOTALLY missed under the media-pushed Yukierre and shit car of it all. IMO it was HARD to dig into the meat of it when so much of it was presented like, candy coated rotten apples lol. Especially if you aren't like... in it like the Pierries are. A lot of it got missed (like that 5-10 minutes before people realized what was actually happening in Japan was a perfect microcosm for this season w Pierre LOL but but let's not get into that). I also just think how Pierre was this year hit less of the broad strokes big dynamic and character interests of the fandom than he did in 2020/2021 maybe!
So I think the popularity of him as a character continues to go down at Alpine too, yeah. Because the new story is about chipping away at a new thing. It's not as sexy for him alone: people who don't care about Pierre's story and only care about the narrative will watch for it to blow up with Esteban and thats about it. So much of I think the actual compelling stuff for him happens behind the scenes now, in these next few months before the season starts. It'll be about someone who is so strict and used to routine and one structure and has pre-existing expectations for a lot of usually goes on around him being thrust into a completely new environment and having to figure out how to swim after so long. It's the "Red Bull is the longest relationship I've ever had", and now what? Have you really learned have you really grown etc etc? But so much of that we wont be able to see!!
He's never really been main character compelling to people, which I get. Cause I think his typecast is harder to get into or even figure than the Maxes Or Charleses or Daniels of it all for example. He's often a useful secondary character to a slash or a gen pairing but a hard primary!! God gives his hardest tests etc etc.
The question is really what is the next big arc? And I dont know if there is one thats super clear. Which is fine for me because unfortunately I like it better when less people talk about the people I like because they dont know the lore! or whatever lol you know what I mean. But anyways I think he's just filled his narrative purpose in wider fandom. I am ok with him being put back on the proverbial doll shelf for now though!
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me: maybe they hate me but I don't care
me: okay maybe I do care
--- but I'm not going to let it affect me
and I'm going to pretend like I don't care and that nothings wrong and that I'm completely fine
me: *realizes everything's actually okay and that people's opinions won't affect your life as much as you think they do*
fake it till you make it.
its okay 😭
the more you harden your face and brush it off, the easier it becomes to live in a judgmental society. practice makes perfect. practice not caring about opinions of others that are irrelevant to your life.
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Okay but like I really need to rant about this a bit so like spoilers for ep 3 of tlou below but like
idk I’ve never played the game so I had no idea what to expect going into this, but when Frank showed up, I was like “I can’t tell if Bill is going to kill him or marry him.” WELL. Nick Offerman did such a GOOD job of looking on guard and uncomfortable. His shoulders are like up to his ears the entire meeting sequence and it made me so jumpy, and then we skip 3 years and he’s so visibly relaxed. And my heart started to melt. And I found myself so enamored with these two men who, against all odds, found love in a situation where that should have been impossible. Frank was the last alive from a group fleeing a collapsed quarantine zone, Bill a preper who had decided to be alone long before the pandemic even started. We expect Bill to die the whole time--comments about him getting old faster than Frank, getting shot by raiders. The jump to Frank being sick...they showed so much through his paintings. You weren’t expecting it, and they showed you through his art how his illness has been progressing, and how him being able to see that himself affected him. They showed how Bill broke down and made a deal with Joel to get medicine despite saying he never would. This show. THIS SHOW. I was sobbing up until Bill became weirdly calm during the dinner, because I realized he’d made the decision too. They died on their own terms in a world where that had become nearly impossible. They had a beautiful life together in a world where that had become a pipe dream. Two characters that we never even meet thru the main characters, not in the present day, but who matter so much.
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