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#i don't hate him i am just very critical of his character mainly for the reasons i listed in this post
ewwwabug · 2 months
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If you don’t mind me asking, why don’t you like varai anymore? :(
Varai's birthday is today but i cant help but tell you about it. im gonna be serious now. tw possible sexual themes mentioned (nothing critical but be careful)
I can't say that I really hate him, it's just that lately it seems to me that he triggers me and causes me more negative emotions than positive ones. Varai was my vent character from the very beginning and in fact I took it out on him, poured out many negative emotions on him. But I never thought that he would have some kind of huge prescribed story and many versions (wild, worm, young, ect) and I did not think that I would devote so much creativity to him.
I am absolutely not against all Varai fans, really. I am not against drawings with him, any content. I understand how important and loved he can be to many. Really, do whatever you want with him, I can't stop you. I am all for almost any creativity, any manifestation of love for this character. Well, just don't fucking shove worms in your eyes or ass, please, it's very strange, or at least don't text to me about it.
It seems to me that I don't want to be known mainly for questionable drawing content, like a jar in Varai's ass, or this ending with eye licking, worms sex, etc. I understand that I have built most of my artistic career on drawing bugs, worms, parasites, but I am tired of Varai, I don't want to draw him anymore (I'm going to draw him only for rival biker boys cgs some day...)
It also seems to me that I also unconsciously sexualized him, mostly because of the way the fans treated him, because of their love and attention to him. and there is a lot of Varai fans you know. I have difficulties with what is considered sexual and what is not... But I feel like some people sexualize his regression/infantile behavior and well... it used to make me feel not good.
also im not really into pastel pink shit anymore whatever
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Do you have any plans for Alderheart? I always thought Alderheart was a boring pov in AVoS, and I kinda wished that they kept his anxiety, and have another WAYY less ableist reason for why he became a healer.
Okay. So I don't wanna do a page for him JUST yet, mainly because AVOS is under so much construction, but I do have some general ideas I can bounce off as things stand.
1. Alderheart is NOT a main point of view. He technically is at the beginning as a bit of a fake out. His POV in canon is a slog to get through anyways, and I personally think it should have always been Sparkpelt.
2. He has anxiety, and he does keep it. He isn't just "worried" often, he constantly feels like everything is going to go wrong, his mind often wanders when he is supposed to focus, he's irritable and tense, and while he wants to be perfect, he also... Isn't doing a lot to help himself. He projects towards Sparkpelt out of jealousy. He never means to, he's just... He's a lot like his dad.
3. The thing about him becoming a Medicine Cat is Squilf going up to her son and gently speaking with him about struggling with his training. She suggests him to be a Medic, proposing cool things he can do. He can make friends in other Clans easier, he can go wherever he wants in their territory at any time, he will be able to visit the Moonpool whenever he wants, and he'll get to work with Aunty Leafpool! She knows he is hating his training, and she doesn't wanna see her son struggling like that. He takes it to heart pretty badly, but he gives it a try when his dad says he doesn't have to stick with it if he doesn't want to.
4. But... He REALLY likes being a Medicine Cat. Sure, it's scary at first, but between Leafpool being supportive and Jayfeather having proper development in the arc to become a better person, the position is enjoyable. It helps that he sees the power that the position offers. He has more influence than his 'perfect' sister will.
5. He is proper mates with Velvet, and still sees her after she goes home. He does it under the guise of herb gathering, and often times WILL bring back herbs, including Velvet Thyme, a very valuable herb.
6. He is still exiled during TBC, and in the end, decides he is done with Clan life. He goes to live with Velvet and Hattie. He recovers, takes his mental health seriously, and improves his outlook. He becomes a better person, and visits Sparkpelt in secret later on to tell her he is sorry.
Please note, I... Really don't like canon!Alderheart. I don't think he is very nice and I really dislike the way the narrative bends other characters to make him correct. I know he is one of Kate Cary's favorites, and the way she treats male characters she likes gets on my nerves, and while I am redoing some male characters to be better, I... Just don't want to with Alderheart.
Embracing his flaws makes him interesting to me. He says kind things, but if you don't validate him often enough, he will try and pull out the same crap Bramblestar does with others. He gets jealous, feels like others are trying to show him up, or replace him. He is loving and patient, but he often projects his insecurities on/towards others and can get wrapped up in a slightly frail ego, an inferiority-superiority complex. He won't take criticism because he needs to be right. He wants to be better than Sparkpelt and Dandeliontuft, not getting/seeing that they're struggling too. He LOVES them, but he's a bit emotionally short-sighted.
He's a good guy, but he needs to work on himself, which is difficult with his father around. When it's just Velvet and Hattie, he does a lot of self-reflection.
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purgatory-hotel · 2 months
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halloooo everynyan!!! and welcome to my blog (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠)
I'm currently doing a hazbin hotel rewrite in the form of a comic (purgatory_hotel on Instagram) and this is where I've decided to dump stuff about it! I won't be posting the comic itself on here, give or take some panels, but I will be sharing extra bits of info and asking for advice!!
you can read the synopsis for the story here!
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I'm not a fan of hazbin hotel 💔 I wouldn't say I hate it, I just wouldn't consider myself part of the fandom and it's not really my cup of tea. I watched it mainly because Keith David was init and I had seen people's redesigns/rewrites and got hooked to the aforementioned redesigns/rewrites, so I decided to make my own. having said that, if you are of a fan of hazbin hotel then you can absolutely interact just so long as you're a decent person
I do not support the creator either. she has said/done some very questionable things to put it lightly. this isn't a blog for debating her and her actions. I will be mentioning the controversies/criticism only if it's relevant
I also don't think I'm "better" than viv and this isn't a project made out of spite. I do think hazbin hotel is a genuinely good concept and I was inspired by other people's work. rewrites and aus have existed since the beginning of fandoms as a whole (I mean look at the absolute beast that is journey to the light and I don't even think that's a fic that exists 😭)
I am a proud Valentino hater 😁 in my opinion he's a character who exists purely to be a horrible person so I am going to perceive him and treat him as such. if you do find him to be an interesting villain then that's fine, same if you like his design. I know he's written to be purely terrible but I've seen a few too many people say that hating him is like wishing death on an actual person
a fair few characters have changed sort of kind of drastically in terms of appearance 😭 again this is just me changing the designs to have fun and fit my own personal style of character design
I'm projecting my headcanons into this comic as well tee hee 😋 again just having some fun
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jasminedragonart · 1 year
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Beauty and the Beast you say? Hyperfixation unlocked. Even if you don’t like it, I am curious what thoughts there may be
PS I love your work 💙
Let's do Beauty and the Beast.
To start off with, I like the old animated film. It was my grandma's favourite and I loved watching it with her. I didn't really appreciate it until I was around 15 years old though, before that it was one of those movies that I would watch if it was on, but i wouldn't seek it out to watch it.
What I think is quite sad about this film, and a lot of the fairy tales Disney has produced in its past, is that there is no way they could remake this now. I know they have, but we were VERY lucky that we got the remake that we did and that it came out in a time where Disney's feminist agenda wasn't so awful.
I have this horrible fear that if they did remake it that Belle wouldn't be Belle anymore. The story would change. She'd be some woman who would want nothing to do with the Beast by the end of the film (like woke Amazon's Cinderella, or even Disney's Mulan.) It's good to change the narrative, but if you're a company who is remaking a film you are just remaking it, you are following the old plot and merely adding little bits in. A remake isn't a remake if it's a completely different story.
Belle's romance with the Beast is the heart of Beauty and the Beast and it works on so many levels.
Let's start with the title. Beauty and the Beast. We can interpret this, firstly, as how the villagers say it in the opening song. Belle's name means Beauty, therefore she is the Beauty in Beauty and the Beast. But if we analyse the title further we can look at what the plot is about. The whole movie hinges on the idea that the Beast falls and is loved in return by someone without his beauty. And we know he was beautiful, it's stated at the beginning. His narrative hinges on the fact that he's stripped of his beauty and that beauty itself isn't purely what we can see. Beauty and the Beast, therefore, becomes the Beast's title, it's his struggle with beauty itself and his perception of it and how him being turned into this creature has warped who he once was and made he himself into someone who can't see his own beauty anymore. We could also look at this from a symbolic point of view. What is beauty in this movie? What is the beast? We, as humans, have both sides inside of us, we coexist with this concept that we can be monstrous and beautiful at the same time and that there is beauty in the monstrous side of us too. Look at Gaston, he is, supposedly, a handsome man, yet his actions are monstrous. He is the Beast in this movie because his actions make him so. We could, therefore, apply the title to him as well.
If we move on from the title we can start to look at the characters. I want to focus on Belle a lot because I feel like a lot of who she is can sometimes be forgotten in the wake of a lot of criticism of this film. Belle doesn't have stockholm syndrome, I'm just going to say it. She doesn't. Her feelings for the Beast develop because of his own actions to her, not because he stayed the same and she saw goodness where there was none. The Beast changed for her. She noticed this change. In fact, I hate the idea that people change for other people. The Beast didn't change, he just found his humanity again. Actually, we'll start with the Beast.
So, the Beast when we first meet him properly is acting not good. He's threatening Belle's father, he's imprisoning him and Belle. But, I mean, in retrospect, we can see his reasonings behind his actions. We need to remember certain things here, while we do see this mainly from Belle's point of view, we need to remember that things have happened to the Beast. He's living his own story and we get a glimpse of this at the beginning. He turned away a stranger in the dead of night and was transformed into a monster because she was secretly a witch. Was he a child? Was he not? I don't think it really matters. What does matter is that some stranger came to his door, he turned them away and he was cursed for it. A bad thing, maybe. But this is medieval times. Yes she was an old woman, but he's a prince. Do you know how many diseases were rampant in the medieval period? Royalty was sequestered away for a reason whenever illnesses broke out. He's used to keeping his distance from the people, and yes, he shouldn't have made fun of her appearance but, again, he's a prince, this is his attitude that he does actually learn and change from as the years pass.
Back to Belle and her father. Her father breaks in. Let's remember that shall we. Her father breaks in, makes himself at home, and while his staff are more than happy to have this guy here, he is the master of the house, he should have the say on who stays in his home. Also, I know the rose is just a rose, but, again, if he's willing to steal a rose what else is he willing to steal? That, along with self esteem issues, his royal status and the fact that maurice broke in, I mean, the Beast kind of has reasons to imprison Maurice. He does. I'm not sorry about it.
Anyway. With Maurice in custody the swap happens and we now have Belle living here. Here's the thing, he knows she's pretty. The villagers tell us they know she's pretty and the Beast has eyes, he knows she's pretty too. His lack of self esteem, the fact that he now has her living with him, that she's the daughter of the man who crossed him, he's not wrong to be a bit tetchy at first. At first. I do not excuse how he yelled that she could starve, but, again, he's been alone a long time and his anger issues stem from that old witch who ruined his whole life. The point I'm trying to make is that the Beast, after that, is very hands off with Belle. He lets her keep to her side of the castle, he pretty much leaves her alone. The only thing he takes issue with is her destroying something that is keeping his hope for change alive. I would be pissed too. But let's remember that he also helped her right after with the wolves.
From the start we, and Belle, see that the Beast has some good qualities to him. For all his anger he did ask Belle if she was hungry and he did save her when she was being attacked. These glimpses are in stark contrast to Gaston who we don't see any redeeming qualities of anywhere in this movie. It's why the Beast can become the good guy in the end, because he wasn't shown to be a complete Beast from the beginning. We are given sympathy for him when we hear how he became a Beast and then we are shown again and again that he isn't this monster that he's shown to be on the outside.
It's nuanced and I love it.
Again, compared to Gaston, the Beast, in my opinion, is allowed to be the good guy, he didn't give Belle Stockholm syndrome and he finally found himself again because of Belle and her ability to see more than a monster.
Gaston is a menace to women. He is. He has the catchiest song, but he is a full on narcissist. I enjoy his character a lot because he's very charming and he's funny but he's villain coded from the start. Also, the only reason he likes Belle is because she's beautiful. He doesn't like that she's educated or that she's nice, he just likes that she's pretty and that their children will be pretty. He's terrifying because he's realistic. There are men like Gaston out there and they are charismatic, but if you listen to what they're saying, it's actually terrifying. He rouses and sets a full on mob on the Beast. He gets Belle's father institutionalised. He threatens her with her father to get her to marry him and then he locks her in her house.
Remember, the Beast imprisoned Maurice (who is turning out to be quite a menace as i write this) not Belle, she just took his place and he was very nice with her afterwards because he knew it wasn't her punishment to take. Gaston on the other hand did all this while proclaiming it was what was best for Belle.
Finally onto Belle. Like I said, Belle doesn't fall for the Beast until he shows her his humanity. She has standards too. She would rather be with a furry than with Gaston. Namely because the Beast betters himself. He learns to read, he interacts with the world again, he smiles and he dances and he lives after years of misery because Belle showed him that she cared about him, that there was still something human left within him, even with the last petal falling from the rose.
Not much I can say about the side characters. I like them, they give it magic and it's tragic that they were trapped in this spell with the Beast- again showing how extreme this freaking witch was. But the main story is what holds my attention even after all these years.
I feel like if you say she was pressured into loving the Beast then you've not really watched the film properly. Even the remake didn't suggest that Belle was pressured or just loved him because she was stuck with him. They both made the effort and I think their story is really nice.
I think they could have given the Beast a better human design, but I think it's just the way with characters who spend a lot of time as one specific thing will always look weird when they transform back. Like, Kenai, I know he's Kenai in the beginning, but by the end when he's under that blanket and human again I'm so used to seeing him as a bear that it's weird.
If you have more to add to this analysis then yay, I love this movie and I think it's great.
Also, sorry I've just tagged this onto an ask, I was going to make a separate post but this works too and thank you for liking my art!!
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ol1verdrawsyt · 1 year
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What r things you like about the dsaf community, and things you don’t like about it? Just curious to hear some thoughts! :D
Oh boy, I have a lot to say abt this one. I'm just gonna preface this by saying, I have a very special place in my heart for dsaf. Idk where I would be today if I hasn't have found that trilogy. With that being said, I'll start with the good.
Tw: opinions 😱😱
For starters, its a very welcoming community. Because a good majority of the community is queer, it makes it a safe space. In my experience, it was the first time I felt open and comfortable being myself inside of a Fandom.
It's also a very talented community. Like holy hell, have you seen those amazing Henry fanarts with him in the void? They're fucking epic!
Finally, the DSaF community is pretty sweet to new artists. I remember when I was in the piggy Fandom, they were brutal man. I got bullied constantly for my art and was pretty close to quitting for a while. In DSaF though, I just simply received constructive criticism and people helping me rather than shaming me.
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Now onto the not so great
First, the ships that shouldn't really be normalized. Steven x Peter is probably a big one. Peter had a wife, Steven was a horrible boss and sent Peter to the factory knowing what would happen to him, and that he had a family (we know from Peter and Jimbo that you can refuse to do that. In the slightly evil ending, Peter refuses to send Jimbo to the factory) and also they canonically hate eachother. Also the horrible power imbalance? Like, idc what your excuse is, shipping boss x employee is just wrong.
And yet, this is like the 2nd most popular ship in the Fandom. I'm not done with it either cuz the people who ship Steven and Peter lead into my next point.
Being toxic towards straight ships. I'm gonna preface this before anybody gets mad by saying, I am a trans and queer man, I can have an opinion on this.
So Peterline is not a very popular ship despite it being cannon. Caroline is Peter's wife, and you see her at the end of the perfect ending. I've been bullied before (mainly on tiktok) for shipping this. I've had someone just go off on me because I'm "taking away gay rep and that Peter is canonically a gay man." Like, tf?? Also, side note: he isn't. Dogman confirmed the characters sexualities and Peter is "probably straight." Not to mention he had a wife that he chose and married himself, not a manufactured one like with Steven. But back to my point. Peterline is overshadowed by all of the Steven x Peter shippers because it's EVERYWHERE. I don't even know why it's a ship in all honesty. But heaven forbid you don't ship it and ship Peter and his WIFE.
You thought that was the worst of it? Wrong. We go away from the side that's mainly queer/allies and go to the homophobic side. Yep. There are homophobic/transphobic DSaF fans despite a good majority of the main cast being queer. Luckily, they don't really show their faces anywhere near the queer fans, so we're all set. I have seen them comment on davesport posts before though complaining. Speaking of davesport:
Davesport has completely taken over the Fandom. I love davesport as much as the next person, but if you truly love something, you have to admit the flaws. First, the weird kinda fetishism of it? I won't name names **cough cough daystars cough cough**, but there are artists who draw this ship and intentionally make the characters look like teenage boys and not old zombie men. Plus, people kinda romanticizing / glorifying the fact that Dave stalked and had an unhealthy obsession with Jack. That isn't cute and romantic that "he loves him so much that he broke into Jack's house on multiple occasions and watched him sleep 🥺🥺🩷🩷☺️☺️☺️" (genuine comment I saw btw, minus the emojis cuz I wanna make sure people know it's satire what I'm saying). Plus, people are bullied for shipping anything other than Davesport. I can understand if it's a proship (I'll get into those fuckewads later), but someone shipping anything other than davesport will get you witchhunted in this community. I know I said I don't like boss x employee, but I don't hate someone if they ship something like Harry x Jack or something. There are people genuinely scared of showing that they ship that because of the hard-core davesport fans. Final note on this point, it's the only DSaF content being made. I want more Blackjack and og managers art pls I beg of you I want more art of the og managers. But instead, it's just davesport again. It gets to a point where I'm kinda tired of it.
Next point: people babying characters. Now, I won't name names **cough cough daystars again cough cough** but there are very popular artists who get away with this. The biggest ones I can think of are Peter, Roger, and Jack. Here's why I think this happens:
Jack: Because he's shown to have a soft side. It's mainly seen in DSaF 3 on the flipside with him gently talking to the other souls and telling them that it's gonna be ok and he'll help them find justice and peace. Also, he is somewhat civil to Dave at the start of a few routes so probably from the fucking davesport shippers again.
Roger: Because he's hinted at to have an anxiety disorder. Hey there! Person with a diagnosed anxiety disorder here. DON'T FUCKING BABY US! Like, just because you have an AD doesn't mean you need 24/7 protection and babying because "what if you get scared 🥺🥺🥺😔😔😔". People with ADs can do amazing things despite it. And Roger is no exception. In the evil ending, he goes off at Jack about everything he's done and doesn't break a sweat. He's probably the strongest out of the 3 phone guys because he's the first person (other than Peter) to stand up to Jack when he's doing something wrong.
Peter: Same as Jack, he's shown to have a soft side. Mainly when talking about how he remembers his wife and family, and invites Jack to live with him and Caroline despite (to his knowledge) he's only known Jack about a week. But like with Roger, he puts his foot down when needed. In the evil routes, Peter takes Jack back to his office and just let's him have it. He goes off about the fucked up shit Jack has done and even throws in some amazing lines like
"That's Mr.Cawthon to you, employee. We certainly aren't friends."
"Employee, let me tell you something. I am a VERY good boss."
"It takes the truth to fool me, or close to it. And you've played me for a goddamned fool."
But of course, with this community, that entire badass scene with Peter and Jack is overshadowed by him being "uwu smol bottom gay boy"
I mentioned them earlier, so here it goes: the proshippers. They're everywhere. Some of the biggest dsaf artists **cough cough fucking daystars again cough cough** are proshippers. It's mainly a problem on tiktok. I've seen people ship: Peter x Dave, Dave x Henry, Steven x Henry, Jack x Peter, Henry x Dee, Henry x Jack, Dee x Jack, Jack x Dee x Peter x Dave. It's honestly disgusting, and I really don't wanna talk abt it anymore.
Next, people drawing Henry skinny. This one pisses me off a lot. People draw Henry as a skinny little bottom boy and not the fat old man he is. There's a lot of people guilty of this. **cough you probably know who I'm abt to say cough cough**. Some people try at least. For example, I tried sticking with my roblox-like bodies and giving Henry a very big torso. Later on, I finally learned how to draw plus sized bodies, and so now that I can, I immediately implemented it. Some people just don't even try.
Finally, people mad at dogman for moving on from the series. I shit you not. I came across people complaining about this just last night. Here's the thing: DSaF has a lot of problematic stuff in it. Nobody can deny that. Dogman has apologized for it on many occasions and doesn't want that to represent his work now. He moved on to Dialtown, where he can now get paid for his hard work and pay his team. But because he isn't talking abt DSaF anymore, people refuse to even look at Dialtown. It's just kinda...childish in my opinion? It'd be a different story if you just simply didn't enjoy Dialtown. Like that's fine and understandable, the game isn't for everyone. But really? Just because the creator moved on from his problematic past and made something original, you want nothing to do with him. That's just stupid.
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Alr ty for coming to my Ted talk. If someone wants it I'll do one of these with Dialtown (there isn't much bad, it'll just be me ranting abt how much I love Dialtown)
Btw don't harass anyone I mentioned here if I did mention them. It doesn't solve anything, and you just look like and asshole.
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oimoi-op · 3 years
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It’s kind of weird to me that some (though obvs not all and honestly not the majority of) MCU Tony stans will literally say any stupid shit to make any criticisms against his character somehow seem ingenuine or meritless. I saw a post comparing Tony’s and Wanda’s traumas as well as their different responses to said traumas that has gained a little traction, and honestly I was kind of pissed off about the assumptions made about people who criticize Tony??? At one point the OP literally said that most people who “won’t forgive” Tony only dislike him because he’s a man and a billionaire but will forgive Wanda because she’s poor and a woman.
Um, okay then.
Folks, we are talking about fictional characters. They are not real people. Perhaps they may mean a lot to you, but these people are not and have never been real. That being said, Tony, in the context of the MCU in particular, is one of the most privileged characters in the films. He is a white American man who also happens to be a billionaire. He established his personal success by selling weapons to the US military which he knew were being used on villages overseas. Yes, it was Stane who made deals with the Ten Rings specifically, but Tony actively and enthusiastically did business with the military up until he became a victim of his own weapons. I’m not trying to diminish Tony’s arc or attempt to demonize him as he is a well-developed and complex character, but I’m rehashing his origins for the people who have apparently forgotten what he was like pre-Avengers. The point is, the man has a shit ton of privilege that he both actively and passively benefits from in literally every movie he’s in. 
Wanda was born in Sokovia which I honestly dislike for various reasons, mainly because the MCU has (as of now) erased Wanda’s longstanding identity as both a Romani and Jewish woman in the comics while also portraying her and Pietro’s MCU identities as Eastern Europeans in a negative and offensive light, but that’s something for a different time and lost her parents to weapons sold by Stark Industries at the age of ten. Ten. She and her brother were apparently in such a bad situation that they grew susceptible to Hydra’s rhetoric and volunteered for a program that no one else survived. Does that excuse what she does in AoU? No. Does shit like Pietro and Vision dying excuse what she does in WandaVision? Also no. That being said, her circumstances are vastly different from Tony’s, and I’m not going to say that Wanda, who has not mastered her abilities in Civil War, being unable to stop an explosion that she didn’t cause from hurting people is just as bad as Tony, who has access to a shit ton of money and advanced tech as well as his 500 doctorates, in AoU deciding to experiment with alien tech that was used to mindfuck people (including Clint, whom Tony seems to be on friendly terms with as of AoU) to create ‘a suit of armor around the world’ that the rest of the world had literally no say in (examples of “collateral damage” on both parties’ parts that the Tony stan post gave 🙄) because it’s not. It’s not the same at all.
They both have severe trauma and survivor’s guilt, and they both react poorly and out of grief and fear (Tony creating Ultron/siding with the Accords without considering individuals who can’t just “stop” their powers like he can take off his armor and I’m not saying Cap was right either but Tony was definitely in the wrong as well/Tony attacking and trying to kill Bucky, Wanda joining Hydra/using her powers on the Avengers/creating the Hex). Hell, they could even be foils in some way. However, their situations are so different that it’s not fair to minimize criticisms of Tony’s actions because they acknowledge the privilege the character has in-universe. We’re kind of supposed to be critical of people with privilege, y’know, not ignore it. Tony isn’t supposed to be a perfect character without flaws; in fact, his MCU version was created to intentionally show development over a period of time instead of instantaneously so as to not jar the viewer.  His development mitigates but does not erase his flaws. I actually like that about his character a lot. Because he is one of the smartest and richest and most privileged people in the MCU, however, I’m going to be much more critical of him than I am of other characters, just like I’m more critical of Doctor Strange, or Hank Pym, or even Danny fucking Rand. I’m not going to ignore the fact that the character is a fucking billionaire who made money off of weapons used by the US military for the war in Afghanistan just because he said a funny thing that I can relate to lmao
I do think a lot of viewers are writing off Wanda’s actions because of her trauma, and I don’t agree with that. Wanda being hurt does not give her the right to hurt innocent people. She, like Tony, is a very flawed yet very complex and interesting character, and I’m glad she’s starting to get a larger role within the MCU. I also think it’s dumb how some viewers are trying to blame everything that has happened in WandaVision on Tony (especially in regards to Vision’s body because there’s no way Tony had any say over what happened there, Tony is not Vision’s creator, Vision is not Tony’s creation). However, I don’t see why this is a reason to compare everything about her, including her criticisms, to Tony Stark because not everything about their respective situations is equivalent mainly due to their different circumstances and privilege in-universe.
And you know what, if people don’t like Tony just because he’s a billionaire white American man who once made a fortune off the US military bombing villages overseas, then they’re completely fucking valid. I personally wish they could look past that and instead focus on his evolution as a character, but, like, profiting from war is pretty fucking awful, so I don’t see how getting hung up on that is a problem on the part of the audience 🤷
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LMAO it's so funny when people who haven't even read the novel talk shit about it. Yes I'm talking about VADTD/DITOEFTV.
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It doesn't surprise me that the person in question of the dilemma is the same one who deleted a post where he/she/they accused the author of the novel of being pro-slave a long time ago.
I'm just going to say that I find it very hypocritical to attack Callisto for being a colonizer when Eckles also belongs to a family of colonizers (and even he himself could become what he hated). I wasn't going to talk about this because I don't really hate any character in the novel (well, maybe laila and the game system lol), but I am going to criticize:
Eckles is A NOBLE, an illegitimate prince of his country, but NEVER RECEIVED DISCRIMINATION FOR IT!
His family loved him to the point of hiding him from the family registry so he wouldn't be executed!
Eckles throughout the novel has a problem with feeling inferior (and with good reason because he is a slave).
BUT DON'T FORGET THAT THE COUNTRY WHERE HE LIVED WAS ARID AND ITS PEOPLE LIVED IN POVERTY, WHILE THE RICH HAD THE BEST. And among the rich was ECKLES!
If you didn't notice the clear signs of pride that a nobleman carries for the sake of being one in Eckles, and not simply the humiliation of being a slave, THEN YOU DIDN'T READ THE NOVEL CORRECTLY.
I don't think I even need to give examples of the horrible treatment his people received from him in the novel, because 'they were practically cannon fodder.
If Delman hadn't been destroyed, Eckles would be exactly the type of noble that that some in the fandom most HATE, or have those who read the novel already forgotten that in the SIDE STORIES Eckles has a personality quite similar to Callisto at the beginning of the novel : proud, egotistical, sarcastic and a bit of a bastard?
They hate Callisto for being "that kind of person" but they love someone who has that personality but hidden in a darker way. LMAO
WHAT'S MOST FUNNY: If the character they hate does something wrong it's entirely it's fault, if the character they love does it, it's the author's fault!
ECKLES IS A WOLF IN THE CLOTHING OF A LAMB, but people forget when they see an "innocent face". Also something what I hate most is when his fans treat him like a terribly naive idiot… Eckles is intelligent and manipulative enough to be able to get away with it, but he doesn't succeed as he has the temperament of a teenager but mainly HIS ARROGANCE AND PRIDE OF NOBLE IS HIS ROPE ON THE NECK!
A long time ago I made a post explaining the dynamics of Eckles in the novel, but I missed some things to add (like the previously I said).
OH AND DON'T FORGET THAT THE MIRROR OF TRUTH (THE ONE IN CHARGE OF BRAINWASHING PEOPLE) WAS BROKEN BY PENELOPE LONG BEFORE LAILA COULD MANIPULATE THE PROTAGONISTS. AND THAT THE MIRROR OF TRUTH ITSELF DOESN'T REALLY MANIPULATE PEOPLE, IT ONLY MAKES THEIR HIDDEN WISHES/FEARS COME OUT WITHOUT MODERATION.
But whatever, the Korean fandom recognizes that Eckles is crazy and accepted him as is, they don't try to make him up or imagine something that will never be him and that doesn't even suits him.
I am glad that the authors of the work have a strong character, because that will be needed when more crazy people come to try to attack the work for things that only happened in their heads!
So I say goodbye, not without first leaving this beautiful, terribly direct hint to those people who criticize without having read the content beforehand :D
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tommy's character gets far too much shit.
hi tumblr. i'm gonna need a few bitches to spread this post everywhere, essentially because i want someone, or just tommy really, to see it. so if you really want, you can screenshot it and post it on twitter, reddit, link it everywhere - go absolutely buck wild. i know he reads the VODS comments a lot, but they're chock full of people just insulting him, his character, his writing and everything about his story in the dream smp simply because they don't understand it and because they refuse to acknowledge his character's perspective (mainly because they only care about the pig). reading that many critical comments on something you've created can only make you feel worse about it eventually, and in light of all the awful techno apologist takes on his character, i wanted to basically just word vomit about how wonderfully crafted c!tommy is, as well as compile some other tumblr posts about his character.
there is a massive fuckin community of people who enjoy the character of tommy, because the character is incredible. i myself have made post after post after post commenting on and analysing tommy's character because i find that there's so much to pick apart. but that enthusiasm for his character only seems to be found on tumblr. reddit and twitter seem to hate his character, the VODS seem to be filled with comments from people who only care about techno's perspective (and treat techno as a reliable narrator, which, is the furthest thing from the truth - that guy lies through his teeth all the time), and the smp wiki is a hellscape of godawful takes and mistruths, not even on just tommy's character.
c!tommy is brilliantly acted and brilliantly written, and almost everything he does is either justifiable or has been rectified or admitted as a mistake. you can clearly make connections as to where he got his conclusions from. you feel what his character experiences, as a member of the audience, vividly.
if you look in the more objective sense, c!tommy, and this is especially in the context of him being the youngest character, is a scapegoat. people claim he's awful and destructive when in reality he's a lot less destructive than most characters on the server. a moment that comes to mind is where he diverts schlatt and quackity's attention from pogtopia by breaking part of the flag in manberg, and then replacing it so as to buy tubbo some time - he literally monologues after it about how he doesn't want to destroy but instead rebuild, and how he feels as if nobody else seems to understand that.
his arc in season two was incredible. it was very character driven, and it gave a spotlight to his motivations. at the start we see him in new l'manberg, and he's enjoying his time there, he's skeptical of his friend's presidency, but his main goal is to get back the discs so that he can stop dream and eliminate that threat. he made one screw up that didn't even matter to george, and he paid for it tenfold, even after dream had spent a while with puffy griefing the server and framing it on tommy - what tommy and ranboo did was convinient. then, in exile, we see c!tommy straight up get abused. he's gaslit and conditioned into being c!dream's friend, and in his brain he teaches himself that those acts of abuse are moments of bonding, and it eventually brings him to the point of wanting to end his own life - he's been torn away from his friends and his support system, and nobody will visit him consistently anymore because they only showed him pity, and all he had left was dream, who had hurt him.
but he doesn't die there, because while he didn't understand the full gravity of it back then like he does now, he recognises that dying isn't an escape, and he can beat dream, even if he doesn't know how. so this is where he goes to techno's place, and here's where the fandom starts to misinterpret the situation wildly.
it's the problem similar to when your parents tell you that they're owed something back because you put a roof over their head, despite that being Not How It Works. techno took tommy in and severely mistreated him emotionally. sure, and i understand this, c!techno is a bad communicator who isn't really that empathetic to anyone who isn't phil or wilbur, but that doesn't excuse the blatant lying to c!tommy's face, the guilt tripping, the friendship buying and the degrading. the day before the festival, tommy finally does something violent in his interrogation of fundy, and only then does techno tell him,,,,
that tommy's not equal to him, that techno doesn't respect him all that much, and that they're not friends.
from techno's perspective, and at the time, this was viewed as a positive development in their relationship. oh, he's starting to warm up to tommy! this friendship could really blossom!
no. from a more objective standpoint, what techno has just said to tommy is : 'i respect you only a little bit more now, because while you're starting to act more like me, you're still annoying and a burden.'
and i haven't even touched on the whole 'erasing the words 'Destroy L'manberg' from techno's to-do list' thing, because that instantly refutes the point of 'techno was upfront with his intentions the whole time' - because he wasn't! he may have said it the first time, but you also know what else he did? he repeatedly told tommy that they'd 'air the details out later' whenever the discs were brought up, and from a tommy viewer's perspective at the time, it was framed as if techno was no longer going to do that.
and i also haven't dared touch the 'i would have fought them all for you', because that's major guilt tripping if ever i've seen it.
so, the day of the festival comes, and here's where c!techno and his apologists completely misread c!tommy's thought process, and why he makes the decision he does.
tommy instantly regrets valuing the discs over tubbo, and it's framed as the culmination of tommy having become all the people he said he would never want to be like. and what does he immediately do? he tells tubbo to give up the disc, and he sides with tubbo. he puts his value in his friends, and, by proxy, l'manberg. and when he betrays techno, he tells him 'i'm sorry'.
from a more objective standpoint, tommy's time with techno is him valuing the discs over almost anything else. so, in leaving techno to be with tubbo again, he is valuing people above the discs. so when, on doomsday, techno says his 'discs aren't people' line, what he doesn't realise is that he himself fueled tommy's valuing of discs above people when attempting to fuel tommy's vengeance against tubbo and l'manberg. techno doesn't realise that he was an unhealthy presence for tommy, and an even worse influence.
what techno also doesn't seem to understand is that tommy never hated tubbo or l'manberg - tommy recognises, now at least, that his exile wasn't a product of tubbo, but a product of dream's manipulation, likely in part because at the time, especially with dream lying about tommy blowing up the community house, tommy was the only one who could see it because he had experienced it firsthand. so when techno sides with dream, it's like kicking tommy in the teeth.
and i want to mention that betraying someone doesn't necessarily make the person who was betrayed good, or in the right, or even justified, because tommy was entirely justified to leave techno. you know who else was betrayed? schlatt. but i don't see many schlatt apologists around angry at quackity for joining the rebellion.
tommy stole the axe of peace? good. it was a moment of tommy defining his self-worth, instead of having it defined by others. gone is the age of c!techno belittling him and deciding how much c!tommy should be respected. NEXT!
here's a moment i wanted to talk about that will forever be funny to me.
'i am a person.'
techno's very famous line from doomsday. techno says to tommy that discs aren't people, and that tommy should value people, despite not understanding that by leaving techno, he did just that. and what does tommy say in return, which has been omitted from every c!tommy-critical analysis, and every animatic?
'yes you are, but so are we.'
an acknowledgement of techno's hurt, to which tommy has already apologised for. a statement that says 'your hurt does not excuse, nor justify, the hurt you have inflicted onto us.' an acknowledgement that tommy has already learnt the lesson techno seems to be trying to 'teach' him. but you can't teach him anything by destroying.
c!tommy has had almost everything he has ever owned or built either taken from him or destroyed. ranboo even points out that the only two things of tommy's left standing are his house and his hotel, and if i'm honest, his house is dissheveled. it's a labyrinth of terror due only to how many times it's been torn apart. l'manberg being blown up didn't teach anyone anything about anarchy, or about valuing people over possessions. logstedshire being blown up didn't teach tommy to be obedient.
i could honestly ramble for ages about how nuanced tommy's character is and how much depth and complexity there is to his character's process and his relationship with others, but more than that, c!tommy is forgiving. he invites almost everyone who hates him to the grand opening of his hotel - if that isn't an indicator that he just wants friends, and not to be treated like the embodiment of evil, then i don't know what is. he holds grudges, but he doesn't really actively hate anyone, other than c!dream. but, we'll let him. c!dream deserves nothing but to be pummeled into the floor.
tommy doesn't spoonfeed his character nuance, and he doesn't really spell it out for his audience. he'll mention things like trauma and triggers in passing, but a lot of analysis on his motivations has to be picked up from what is said in passing or from what can be seen in between the lines.
i'd be here for hours if i were to talk about everything i love about c!tommy, because honestly he's one of my favourite characters, and there are so many angles you can look at his character from in terms of his age, his relationships with others, his motivations, his personality, his character arcs etc etc. so instead of doing that, i'm going to compile some much more specific analysis posts below to skim through because they highlight so many good aspects of his character.
^^ A thread about the 'yes you are, but so are we' line.
^^ About how shit the VODS comments are.
^^ A comment on how c!Tommy is actually pretty peaceful, and is actually less destructive than most characters on the server.
^^ Possibly the best c!Tommy analysis thread I've ever seen in relation to his trauma, which gives multiple perspectives.
^^ About how c!Tommy is treated as a scapegoat, and how, from an objective standpoint, he is no more violent than any other character, it's just that the little violence that is committed is blown far out of proportion.
^^ Tumblr user flypaw being a bad bitch, as per usual.
^^ c!Tommy being incredibly intelligent, and talking about wanting to rebuild and not destroy. A very underrated monologue of his.
^^ Something short about c!Tommy and c!Wilbur's relationship in Pogtopia.
^^ Less about c!Tommy, more a meta on L'Manberg. Really interesting to think about.
^^ A take on Doomsday.
I'll add some more posts in a reblog in the notes, but if anyone's post(s) is on this and they want me to take it off, let me know and I'll do that for you! Feel free to add your own banger c!Tommy takes or ones that you've found.
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I really don't get the complaint about Ironwood. His descent into a villain honestly made perfect sense.
Okay, look. Before I begin, let’s just get one thing straight. The way I view Ironwood is mainly my opinion, and it is not an objective fact. Love or hate him, I hope we can all have an intelligent and rational discussion on the way General Ironwood was portrayed, okay? Okay.
My problem isn’t necessarily how Ironwood became a villain in Volume 7, but rather, how he acted as villain in Volume 8, and what the story was trying to say about him and his actions. Buckle up first, there’s some infodumping to be done before we get there.
Now, for those who haven’t seen RWBY (and be warned, spoilers are obviously ahead), General James Ironwood was a supporting character introduced during the show’s second “Volume”. He was in charge of all the military forces of Atlas, the most militaristic of the four main kingdoms in the world of the show.
He had a bit of a bad reputation in universe for bringing a lot of his troops to Beacon Academy (where the first three Volumes took place) for a fighting torunament to serve as security. Long story short, thanks to an act of sabotage from the villains, an army of monsters called Grimm and a faction of former equal rights movement turned terrorist organization known as the White Fang attacked Beacon, killing a lot of people and forcing the survivors to retreat.
Ironwood had a handful of scenes in the next Volume, showing his support for one of the main characters, Weiss, and donating a robotic arm to another main character who had lost hers in the Fall of Beacon, Yang. After, that, he was mostly silent until Volume 7, where our heroes made their way to Atlas to deliver one of the four MacGuffins the main villain Salem needs to Ironwood.
We see that since the Fall of Beacon, Ironwood has been stretched thin in protecting Atlas over the run down town directly below it, Mantle. It’s clear that Ironwood can’t really keep up with handling both towns, to the point where not only is Mantle protected by a single robotic supersoldier named Penny, but Ironwood is also diverting supplies meant to fix a wall to keep Grimm out of Mantle in favor of working on converting the same stadium used for the tournament in Volume 3 into a satellite to restore global communication, which had been down since the Fall of Beacon.
The heroes are naturally conflicted about their loyalties to Ironwood, as while he has given them his trust, they don’t really trust him to tell him some of the secrets they learned. Blake and Yang, two of the heroes who have always been more opposed to authority, leak classified information regarding the satellite to the leader of a group of freedom fighters, Robyn Hill (who is actually voiced by Christina Vee), who at this point, was someone Ironwood viewed as a threat. 
Now you could make the argument that these college drop-outs are severely unqualified to handle a tense situation that even a seasoned veteran like Ironwood is struggling with, but the point is when Ironwood finds out, he’s pissed. It’s really not hard to agree with him when you consider everything he’s done for Team RWBY and their friends only to be betrayed like this. So Ironwood declares all of the heroes fugitives and place a warrant for their arrest
At this point in the story, you can understand both sides of the argument regarding how to handle the situation. Ironwood’s anger is very understandable, and while he acts as an antagonist to out heroes, he’s not really a villain.
And that’s when he shoots a fourteen year old child. Granted, he currently had the soul of an old friend of Ironwood in him, but Ironwood literally just tried to murder someone, and almost succeeded.
Volume 7 was very polarizing among RWBY fans for the portrayal of Ironwood. It doesn’t help that when Salem, the main villain of the series, launched an invasion of Atlas, Ironwood’s plan was to launch Atlas and keep Salem from getting the MacGuffin, essentially distancing it from the rest of the world... when Volume 7′s final episode aired in February 2020.
Now, you would think, after being forced to stay in their homes to minimize Covid deaths, the writers would understand what they were antagonizing Ironwood for was basically what every government in the world did a month after they finished work for the Volume, and maybe realize that maybe they shouldn’t portray someone like Ironwood as a complete monster.
Volume 8 opens with him killing a councilman who disagrees with him. And it all goes downhill from there.
This Volume goes out of its way to portray Ironwood as a genuine psychopath, mainly to stop the people who agreed with him over Team RWBY from supporting him. He does things like working with one of the villains to achieve his goal, gives his soldiers permission to torture people for information, and after Salem is neutralized temporarily, rather than continue to evacuate Mantle like he had originally planned before the villains and Team RWBY screwed up his plans, he decides threatening to bomb Mantle to use as leverage is a better idea.
And then there’s the whole idea the the writers want to treat Ironwood losing his arm in a fight and replacing it with a robotic one like Yang as a symbol of him “losing his humanity”. It’s... kind of insulting when you realize that Ironwood is a man suffering from PTSD, and the show is basically demonizing anyone who uses prosthetics in their daily lives, or is traumatized from war.
I’m not saying Ironwood is just like Chloe, but the way both narratives choose to demonize both characters to spite their fans is why I draw the similarities in the first place.
There’s also the fact that the writers claim Ironwood is acting this way because of his Semblance (they’re basically Quirks from My Hero Academia) giving him an iron will that won’t make him change his mind on his decisions... when it’s never addressed in the show, is only mentioned at a fan panel, and not even Ironwood’s voice actor knew about this until a fan told him. It’s a stupid way to handwave away the criticisms that Ironwood is acting out of character, and is universally considered by fans to be the dumbest Semblance in the show.
But overall, the point I am trying to make is that instead of portraying him as this morally grey villain who merely opposes the heroes because he has a different way of solving problems, the writers decide that isn’t a good thing, so they demonize him just to make Team RWBY and the heroes (who many have claimed do a lot of bad things this Volume) look better by comparison.
I’m sorry if you disagree with me, but I just want to understand that I am not trying to attack anyone who hates Ironwood. Like Adrien, I don’t hate the character entirely, I just don’t like the way he is handled, and simply prefer his fanon self over what we got in canon.
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Why do you hate Joey? And please don't spoil beyond season 2 for me.
hi! 
this is my first ever ask so this is kinda cool alrighty get ready bc this is going to be a LONG post. i’ll try my best to avoid spoilers. 
why i dislike joey potter from dawson’s creek: 
ok so I think what my growing hatred for Joey Potter mainly boils down to is just the fact that she is the type of character who has no personality, she is simply empty. when she does want something it’s because it helps her only, and she’s very selfish. this is hard to explain in the context of s2 which is where you are, but i am almost done with the last season and i feel this is where her character has turned to focus on over the course of the entire show. 
i will say, i completely respect other’s opinion of joey, mine is just that she’s not my favorite by any means in the show. i actually think she’s my least favorite. so i’ll try to explain that! 
let’s start with s1: 
- i actually enjoyed joey a lot in s1, i thought she was fun! she’s sassy and her “im beautful yet unaware of it” thing kinda worked. this aspect of her only works in the beginning though (since she’s young and that’s the entire point of being beautiful and young) and something i find aggravating about later seasons is this continued theme of unawareness that doesn’t fit with her character anymore. by that point, SHE SHOULD KNOW SHE’S HOT OKAY. 
- another s1 point is her relationship with Dawson. i was a strong shipper until ~certain future events~ happened because i liked them together. Girl Next Door is in love with Best Friend who’s oblivious to it, it’s a cute trope! i think for the first season, their focus on Joey’s suffering from just recently discovering her feelings for Dawson and trying to navigate them made for a good complex storyline for the Lead Female of the show. there was an exploration of female sentiment there that i personally haven’t seen a lot of, so i was interested. her relationship with Dawson in s1 was overall pretty good bc it set up excellent foundations character and plot wise for the show. 
- my only criticism (more like character-choice-to-eye-roll-to) for her relationship with Dawson in s1 is her treatment of Jen because of it. we all know Dawson falls for Jen super quick and that’s not his fault or Jen’s or Joey’s yet she chooses to blame Jen and antagonizes her the whole season because of it. basically, she was a bitch to Jen. now, that’s not to say that it didn’t make sense because it did, and i think it worked well since we need some Conflict here, but thinking back on it now after watching almost the whole show, her choices and behaviors towards Jen in s1 shift from a childish jealously funny thingy to outright unlikeable aspect of her character that is only built upon as the seasons continue. i would argue this is the beginning spark or preview into the Bitch she will eventually become. 
moving on to s2: i personally don’t remember much about joey from s2 bc my brain is Pacey Witter centered and he really shined during s2 so i apologize if i get something wrong, i’m outside my lane here teehee
- i feel that joey’s character in s2 starts it’s shift into Bitch Land and also Lost Land. this is where i feel they started to lose control of her, but something i find interesting about that is that the loss of control is extremely subtle up to the point where when you finally look back in retrospect, you can find those seeds being planted as early as s2. 
- let’s tackle her relationship with Dawson in s2. there’s a lot to unpack here, but let’s start with the fact that it started REALLY WELL!!! our queen was getting the boy of her dreams!!!!!!!!!!! and good for her, but ofc, because this is a tv show and they need drama for the ratings (i’m guessing :)) everything falls apart very quickly. i would also argue that the choice they made to break Dawson and Joey up in s2 was very definitive and formative for her character for the rest of the series; the seeds were planted when they broke up. 
- her reasons for breaking up with Dawson were understandable **at first** in my opinion, there wasn’t much reason at all to break up with him. yes, she needed to find herself (just like any young person does), but that doesn’t mean she couldn’t do it with Dawson. i actually thought they would do great at discovering her together, because i think Dawson is supportive and sensitive enough to help her. her excuse that she can’t do her art while dating Dawson was bullcrap. i could go on and on about why that is, but the best evidence of it is the fact that she hopped from Dawson to Jack with no hard feelings and continued with her art the same as before. her art didn’t get any better when she switched boyfriends so she really can’t use it as a scapegoat to explain breaking up with Dawson. 
- this break-up and then her romance with Jack is what really gets me about her in s2 though. i think Dawson actually commented on it: she wanted to be alone to find herself, but then she started dating Jack almost immediately after that decision. this is where Joey first starts contradicting herself. this is where she first starts her ever-running theme of not knowing what she wants from her life at any point in time. for inexplainable reasons, her character is confused and she has to lead everyone else along and confuse them with her. honestly, poor Dawson. she both Wants and Doesn’t Want things, and her inability to stick to one is annoying to watch. and it only gets worse! 
- her mistreatment of Jen continues, but what really gets me about her treatment of other characters in s2 is her relationship with Jack after he comes out. Jack has become one of my favorite characters in the show and his coming-out arc is (in my opinion) done extremely well for a gay character at that time. we don’t even have arcs like those THESE DAYS OF THE 21ST CENTURY WTFF!!!!!! it’s also a very important arc to me. i can’t cite all the evidence, but her friendship with him after he comes out is so messed up. she constantly acts like that weird Straight Girl Who Needs a Gay Best Friend. fucked up. she always apologizes and goes back on it after Jack has to snap at her multiple times, but it still makes her unlikable and inconsiderate to anyone but herself. Joey starts showing through her relationship with Jack that she only cares about herself. when she was dating him, she did it to feel good about HER art not because she really truly liked him, and when he came out, she wanted him to be a Stereotypical Gay Man for HERSELF, not because it was what Jack wanted, and he outright told her various times. she’s selfish. she doesn’t care about breaking Dawson’s heart and using Jack, she only sees her own benefit when she’s playing with these boys as if they’re not real people with feelings. this is another running theme that worsens her character throughout the seasons. 
- by the end of s2 i think her and Dawson are back together (i’m honestly not sure i was invested in Pacey <3) but then the whole thing with her dad happens and that was really interesting to me. her decision to breakup with Dawson in the s2 finale after what he did.... MADE SENSE. i was kind of sad about it, but it was right!!!!! she had to do that!!!! she went through a lot of trauma bc of it and being with Dawson would just remind her of it, it wasn’t fair to her!!!!! i thought, hmmm this is the cataclysm of their relationship here again. this would allow her to finally find herself after being lost all of s2 and then she can be with Dawson again. it was all set up to match together perfectly. s3 proved me wrong :) but that’s for another post. 
Joey is, at her core, an empty shell of a character. she starts off well and full of personality, but either bc of writing choices, or the audience reaction at the time they made this show, those aspects of her character start chipping away and she just becomes this unattainable sorcerer of men, who’s too good for any boy, but never good enough to be by herself. this is not the type of woman i personally enjoy watching, it gets tough watching her break everyone’s heart one by one just bc she “doesn’t know, isn’t sure.” it’s repetitive and makes for crappy drama effect. it’s frustrating. 
i’m sorry this is so long, i hope this makes it clear why she’s my least favorite character in Dawson’s Creek. again, i respect all opinions of her character. hey! if you love Joey Potter, then cool for you!!!! she’s just not that character for me, and looking just at s1-2, these are my reasons why. 
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When do you see the Drake criticizm? I read a few tumblr blogs and some posts on facebook groups and I don't think I have seen any. I'm suprised, he is so in love and such a good man, why there a criticizm? Also, what do you think about their plot as a couple this season? And about how much there is about her son?
Hello!
You are spending your time in all the right places, Anon! Stick to those! (but to answer your question; mainly twitter, and some parts of tumblr, too). 
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinions, of course, so no offense meant to those who dislike Drake. None at all, it’s just a bit tiresome. Especially those who big up characters like Lady Whitworth and George and their treatment of Drake; which in turn supports a lot of their treatment of Morwenna (given almost all the animosity towards Drake in the show comes from his attachment to Morwenna, and his kinship with Ross rather than towards Drake as an actual person).
I think most of the criticism comes from how prolonged the Drake & Morwenna storyline became in late S3/4. It seemed like the showrunners had no idea what to do with Drake but have him pining away for Morwenna/the loss of their relationship. Which as a viewer can get very tiring. Even as someone who considers Drake & Morwenna amongst my all time favourite fictional couples, I can see the criticism. Especially since they didn’t use any additional Drake content from the books - where, yes, he pines, but he does actually have a life outside of pining! 
However, in S5 I think the way people still refer to him is harsh and unfair. For me S5!Drake is a good man, genuinely in love with his wife, trying to make the best out of a difficult situation, and figure out how to support and love a wife who cannot tolerate even the slightest touch from her husband. He doesn’t always do the right thing, and how can we expect him to (given we’re talking about a time when things like PTSD weren’t known about)? 
I’ve also seen people accuse him of trying to pressure Morwenna into having a child. I personally never saw it as pressure. He immediately backed away from the suggestion when he saw it made Morwenna uncomfortable, and ensured she knew that he was more than happy with the way their life was. Surely it’s better for him to communicate how he is feeling than to bottle it away? That’s not healthy for him or for their relationship. 
I also strongly believe, and please don’t think that I am trying to diminish Morwenna’s trauma in any way, that’s absolutely not that case, that she does sometimes need a gentle reminder from Drake that she’s not broken beyond repair. That what Osborne did to her was utterly horrific, but he is dead, and Morwenna survived. She sees herself as irrevocably broken, and I think without Drake around to remind her that she is damaged, yes, but not broken, she would have just allowed herself to waste away, genuinely believing herself to be sick, and tainted by Osborne’s treatment of her. She needs that reminder of the person she was before Osborne, and that part of that person is still there inside her.
How do I feel about their story lines in S5? For the most part I have been enjoying them. I love that Drake’s been allowed to make mistakes, and that they have continued to openly and honestly discuss their problems and feelings. It’s been lovely seeing them progress and develop as a married partnership (my only wish is that we’d get to see them back at the holy well at least once before the show ends). 
I haven’t hated the John Conan plot as much as I thought I might. I didn’t like that they acted as though Morwenna’s main block to being able to be physically intimate with Drake was connected to having to leave her son behind rather than Osborne’s abuse, but aside from that, I think it’s been well handled. I do think some mentions of John Conan were made necessary by the fundamental changes made to Morwenna’s attitude to him generally. Perhaps not the whole kidnapping thing (stop making Drake out to be a total idiot; having a good heart, and kind nature isn’t the same as not being able to understand that actions have consequences - he has a heart of gold not a brain of cotton). But Morwenna actually loving/caring for John Conan rather than the general apathy her book counterpart felt for Osborne’s son would’ve made her simply forgetting him incredibly unrealistic.
I also have some issues with the fact that simply saying goodbye to John Conan appears to have broken through whatever mental block Morwenna had when it came to physical intimacy, and that it meant that her and Drake have gone straight from hugs and hand holding being a major accomplishment for them, to sex without even a kiss between. I feel like tonight’s arc could’ve ended with a kiss building up to full intimacy in 5x06 instead. 
Sorry for a very long winded, messy answer!
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mysticgalaxychaos · 5 years
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"In depth" analysis (commentary) on Mcs vs Yaha dialogue (part 2)
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This is the continuation from the previous thing he said and now he downright flirts with Nowe in a very very creepy way. This phrase can be read so wrong and I guess it's meant to be that way. Again with the weird word choice! Is "look into my eyes" that bad? I mean we all know you're trying to smash so why be weird about it?? And that tone!! So horny!
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Imma assume this one is referring to Nowe too and there is just nothing I can really say. I guess the battle got him in the mood for flirting and... Other stuff... Ngl tho those horror-fied slowed down roblox death sound effects set a pretty good mood!
*Ah yes! Nothing gets you going like watching your pact partners, whose existence your life depends on being slaughtered!*
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Now the focus turns to Urick and we also move to different footage because the other one had the order mixed up (apparently these quotes appear in a certain order but it depends to the time you take and finishing the fight quickly cuts out some important ones). Here Yaha talks about "the old good days" when he and Urick were... Friends?? (A couple??). This tells us that Yaha up until this point had hopes of them going back to what they used to be which is a bit of a sad thing considering how they were friends and Yaha was trying to change the relationship into a romantic one. Him wanting to at least be friends again is pretty sad... (Urick's just heatless man!)
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This is also a very weird line! On the surface it just seems like it's the first line that reveals Yaha's feelings for Urick... and that's why I've went out of my way to overanalyze the shit out of it, so LISTEN! This will tie to later quotes as well (of course) but not in the way that you might think. This does seem to be a question, askig Urick and assuming that he did know about Yaha's feelings but the way that "Right, Urick" is spoken kinda gives a vibe of "Right, Urick? We were FRIENDS, RIGHT??? Friends? Were we FRIENDS Urick? Were we really friends, though???" But this is kinda contradicted by the "you must have known". I think it would be more appropriate to say something like "You knew" or "You did know"
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Now, now, NOW this is a bit of a ground breaking quote, and given the context, it seems like it's addressed at Urick. From what I've seen, if the gameplay goes by quickly you get this like after the "Come now, I'm waiting" line which makes this seem like it's about "General Oror" but this is an idea I am not willing to entertain so for our sanity's sake we will take Urick as a fact here. Now the first time I watched a gameplay of this game, I missed this quote completely, but it affects the story quite a bit mainly for one reason, we don't know what he's talking about! Is this "exquisite moment" that day he met Urick at the orphanage? Was it the day he discovered Lord of the Rings is a thing? Was General Oror really that good?? We don't know? But considering the context and Yaha's perceived personality (both before and after pact deal) we can safely assume that General Oror is in fact really THAT good that this was an incident involving Urick and Yaha. This is the "event" I talked about before. My interpretation is that something (probably sexual) happened between them (It could have been romantic but judging by how much emphasis is put by both Urick and Yaha on the fact that he lost his ability to feel *sexual* pleasure, we can see they are both very sex oriented). Also we know this thing happened before the pact deal both from something that's said later on and from the fact that if this was a sexual experience, he seems to have enjoyed it which he wouldn't be able to do after the pact deal (*Dramatically looks down*). Either way, Yaha here talks about what appears to be a very big moment for him, probably involving Urick
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This is were Yaha goes off and begins telling us the story of his life (not really, his pact deal) and it kinda messes up the narrative of what we've had so far. Because if this "exquisite moment" he talked about before was something that happened between them that would render them "more than friends" this takes us back to square one ("The friendzone"). A bit random, but this quote also makes me sad. If you think about it, the man sacrificed a part of himself (all be it not a super important one) for Urick and it still didn't work for a completely uncknown reason. The mention of the word "finally" implies he tried to "get" him using other means to, but it could just mean he waited for super long, even though again, given the context, it doesn't look like it. Urick hates this poor guy for a reason, that reason, though uncknown, could very well be Yaha's attempts to get Urick to date him.
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:(... He sounds so heartbroken... But, as sad as this is, it gives us what might be the most important piece of information we've had so far, that being that Urick rejected Yaha. Not only that, but "rejected me then" implies that Urick had rejected him before. This tells us that Urick didn't want a romantic relationship, that Yaha probably made multiple attempts to get him and that Urick is (drum roll, important plot hole incoming) immune to Yaha's charm! YEP! The supernatural charm he paid with his (*dramatic gasp*) ability to feel pleasure!!! (*Dramatically faints with arm on forehead*). Also, this tells us Yaha hadn't been the most loyal to his love for Urick, as Urick was "The only one" who wouldn't go with him. That does have a couple of scary implications given the rest of the cast, but we won't judge Yaha's taste (or lack thereof) in men now. The phrasing used here also gives the impression that Urick was never involved with Yaha in any way that was not friendly which makes the other quote ("I want to relieve that exquisite moment") super confusing... Guess we'll have to assume it was about General Oror after all...
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This is Yaha's quote when you defeat all his gnomes and the gnome king (?) appears. It doesn't have any plot relevance, but the phrasing is interesting. Yaha's described the battle as "playing" before and addresses his gnomes as "children". I honestly have no clue what this means or why he does it, it just kinda makes him sound super innocent and child like, which I think the devs were kinda going for with his voice and everything. Which is just really weird... Cause he's a massive pervert who might have fucked every single adult male character we know... I really don't understand what they were going for. Maybe some short of subverting expectations/stereotypes kinda thing, like "Look! He's an elf! You know how elves are in fiction, pure. And look at how innocent he sounds and how he addresses these gnomes as children and... Oh look! We tricked you! He's actually a creepy prevy guy!!!¡¡" On the other hand, he is supposed to be an illusionist so I guess it might make sense...
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Here is where the bosse's helth begins to get kinda critical and Yaha begins to realise that he might die, so he starts talking about it, trying to get who I will again assume to be Urick to maybe spare him (spoiler alert, Urick is a heatless rock of a human being and he won't spare anyone). Again I have to point out this part because they just keep giving us contradictory statements!! Here Yaha is trying to convince Urick (and Urick's friends) to not kill him, and his argument is "I will die and the crystal will be destroyed", but here, the crystal really doesn't make for a convincing argument. Urick (or his friends) isn't attached to this crystal, so Yaha's argument here really is something along the lines of "Urick if I die you ain't getting none". Really he is using his "beautiful body" to get Urick to spare him. It's either that these two really, REALLY don't understand each other, at ALL, or that something has happened in the past that would lead to Urick not wanting to loose Yaha's "beautiful body". Interesting word order there as well. "YOU would let THAT happen?" instead of "Would you let that happen". Placing emphasis on "You" reinforces this idea. Also that final line sounds kinda mocking.
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And this is Yaha's final quote before he dies and we go into the cutsceen. As you can see he's fully gone insane, presumably because of the extreme levels of power given to him by the Hogyoku in a short amount of... Wait, what am I even writing about?? Yaha's definitely kinda loosing it there and I can't make sense of this at all... In what way is this romantic? Unless it's meant to be ironic.
"Oh, so you're killing me! Yes, Urick this is the perfect ending to our date! You are SUCH a romantic guy!!"
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mastrrt · 6 years
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The Tigress Dilemma *fanfiction*
Usually, fanfic writers (such as I) have a hard time depicting complex characters such as Tigress, ergo this lack of this understanding about our characters can lead us to defile their original personalities and characteristics. I'm pretty sure most, if not, all of us are victims to the Tigress Dilemma, and this problem can only be resolved once Dreamworks has finished Tigress's arc. The Tigress Dilemma is basically what I mentioned above. We misinterpret Tigress and that could lead us to writing imposters instead. Now I have seen many fanfics, and all of them vary in the extent of how terrible their Tigress imposter is. I would say that for my fanfics, my Tigress imposter is pretty far off from the original character, but I feel I am getting there... it's a very slow progress, but every increment of time is making me better as a writer. Anywho, I'll be addressing some Tigress Imposter stereotypes. These stereotypes are the ones we want to avoid as much as possible. And if we do so, we can get closer to the original Tigress. Now, disclaimer, I am not here to tarnish the pride of any of you fanfic writers. I'm just here to point out my opinions and hopefully my opinions can do more good than harm. Also, to bring this blog a more positive vibe, I will be writing some Tigress stereotypes that we should all follow. But that'll be on the next post. 1. The 'Punk Girl School Bully' Type of Tigress. (LoA Tigress) Sleeves are for wimps... fat muscles... I got huge front teeth... i'll put your head on the toilet... pig anatomy on the facial region... you punk!... ILLL BEAT YOUUU UP!... girl that looks like a man... Those lines are all inside the ambit of any typical Buff School Girl Bully. And yeah, these types of people aren't the most likeable. Mainly because of their terrible ego and pride, their unmanaged temper, their constant screaming, and the fact that they bully. And these types of characters usually act upon their anger, and these types of characters are usually defeated by their own caprices. Now a lot of times, people usually confuse 'Punk Girl School Bully' as Tigress's characteristics.
For example, a lot of fanfictions tend to write this: Tigress was clouded with anger. How dare this cocky prick make fun of her name like that? She charged at him, trying to land a double fist strike on her belly, but it has seemed that her muscles were so angry that she suddenly turned into an amateur fighter and totally missed the cocky mite's stomache. Now she was even angrier. She gave a frustrated yell and pounced at the prick, driving her feet into a powerful tornado kick, but the man has sidestepped and she was too angry to use that momentum to execute another kick upon landing. Oh she was so so SO angry that everything turned red. Even though the man was merely a stranger, his smart remarks was enough to somehow make Tigress want to tamper him, as if her anger was derived from personal matter. Oh yes, Tigress was so weak that her peace has succumbed so easily to something as superficial as an empty insult. It isn't like she's a warrior who learned integrity, who lived by virtues and proverbs, and learned to swallow her pride the hard way. Nope. She was just the average hot head. "You! You idiot!" She yelled, driving her fist into arbitrary turns and twist with the speed of a toddler's fist in a fit of frenzy. And yet, after delivering such 'efficient' attacks, the man had avoided her punches the Muhammad Ali way. What's next? The rope-a-dope? Is that how weak Tigress became because of her anger? Oh, and since she's sooo angry, she also became majorly stupid! Since she's losing, she might as well become more desperate to win and because of this, she kinda lost 9/10 of her damn brain. It isn't like she had experienced worst before. It isn't like she's been in a tower surrounded by hundreds of adversaries, outmatched, outgunned, out everything, and still managed to escape through a genius idea to catapult her and her Enterprise out the flaming tower THROUGH the toppling flaming tower.
Look, Tigress can be hot head, but she doesn't allow it to manifest in a way that hampers her during battle. She's a warrior who for sure learned patience. Yes, she might have let herself succumb to her anger during the first movie (by trying to fight Tai Lung despite her master's efforts to stop her) but do understand that it was because of that cursed snow leopard that her father was just outright terrible to her, and 20 years of desperation and overwhelming commitment to kung fu led her to think that defeating Tai Lung is the key to Shifu's heart. Watch the Second movie through and through, with the eyes of a scrutenizing critic. If she is angry, it is usually to appear intimidating or lethal. It's a great strategy, escpecially now that her opponents would surely hold back once they hear the low baritone of her growl. But never, never, never, never, I assure you, did she appear angry and let that rage make her a haphazard, stupid, mess.
Also, fanfic writers tend to also write this: Tigress crossed her arms and growled. Po was so annoying! He wouldn't stop babbling about his new dumpling recipe. If he says 'broccoli broth' one more time, she is sure her dormant side would burst. "SHUT UP PO! YOU ARE AN IDIOT! YOU ARE SO CHILDISH! YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE THE DRAGON WARRIOR!" And then, Po cried and ran away from the kitchen. The rest of the five gave her a look that could compare to the menacing glare of a thousand men, and they all left her to find the weeping Po. She sneered, she didn't need them anyways. She didn't have a family. And they were no friends of hers.
Tigress is not like this! She values her friends, and she talks to them like friends. Do no potray her the LoA way, because she's not always grumpy... and she is, by chance, grumpy, it's mostly for a reason. When the other five are irritated or even disgusted of Po, you can see that only Tigress smiles. And when she is in an argument, she usually deliver herself in a calm and threatening. Yeah, calm and threatening can be together. Tigress works as a paradox. I think the problem here is that people mistake seriousness and grumpiness as neigh synonyms. DON'T mistake those two different words with the same definition. Tigress is serious, but rarely grumpy in the way LoA/ fancfictions potrays her (just compare KFP 2 Tigress to LoA Tigress (there's a big difference I tell you that (mostly because she doesn't haphazardly turn into a big bish (is this even grammatically correct?))))
2. The Morally Deficient Tigress. I hate you!... you've always been terrible to me Shifu. So I hate you too!... you guys are not my family!... i have no family!... brat times twenty... your spoon is stupid... everyone is stupid... I don't wanna do this anymore... i'll turn evil in six seconds if you don't assuage my ego... cold hearted... insults everywhere... long sullen silences followed by mean comments followed by even more long sullen silences... angst angst angst for no reason... teenage i-have-20-pounds-of-eyeliner-under-my-eyes prototype. this type of imposter Tigress is probably one of the worst forms of Tigress out there. You cannot just ignore that she has been raised by two kung fu masters, one has morals that are so polished and perfect, and the other one with flaws but regardless still wiser than most. She's also follows a regimented schedule of supreme discipline throughout the course of her twenty-eight years, so surely she has been taught hardwork, patience, determination and other virtues that any average olympian athletes would typically have. Despite being called cold-hearted, stoic, perhaps even mean, do remember that she is also a HERO. With a hero's heart and the strength of a hero's mind. You can not simply ignore that she's a good person who had saved, quite possibly, thousands of lives, expecting nothing in return except the heart of her father and a place to reside. Do not mistake badassery with idiocy. Do not make her morally deficient like she's a little child with the mindset of a brat on a bad day.
Here's some examples of this nightmare: "Why do you keep these stuff? You're so childish, you don't deserve to be the Dragon Warrior!" Tigress looked around his loft, threatened by the action figures and the posters of the masters that adorned it.
Po frowned, "But... but... items like these have very big value to me Tigress. Especially my action figures, I cherish them because it's a large fragment of my childhood memories!"
Tigress did not understand. Of course she did not, not only is she whimsy, grumpy, angry and stupid, she also lacks understanding and lessons that can usually be self-taught at the age of twenty. She acts like a little child and that's all her morality is limited to. "No! They're wooden things with no value whatsoever. Stop being a fanboy. Stop being yourself! I can't support you! You idiot."
And she left the room with grandeur ---Sharpei Style with the hint of swagger. Five days later... "It's all your fault why we're here Po! All your fault. It isn't like you made a wonderful plan and I kinda destroyed it after this cocky douche made me angry and I decided to fight him and ditch your plan. And since my dignity got the best of me, it isn't like I'm blaming you 100% on our unfortunate demise when I know 200% that i'm to blame." Po tried to speak, but Tigress continued, "Ya'll should have listened to me! Me me me me! Me me me me!" The end!
Okay okay, it's a little too exaggerated, but you get the point right? Tigress doesn't act like this. She is kind and nice, she's truly supportive even with her doubts, and she loves and values her friends, albeit these traits are not exposed because it's overshadowed by her stoic demeanor. Whatever... sometimes light filters through her facade and you can see her vulnerabilities.
3. The Profesional Becomes the Biggest Amateur. Gets defeated by a few alligators who could barely fight... can't get unstuck from a rope THAT ISNT EVEN KNOTTED NOR THICK ENOUGH TO CARRY TWO POUNDS... can't get out a sticky situation even though she has been through worse... pathetic tiger... no longer has super strength that she has been gifted with. Now I'm just a thread's breadth away before typing a full fledge rant. Yes! I get it. She has been defeated by people who Po can defeat. She has been defeated by Tai lung and Po was able to defeat Tai Lung. But that was because Po was in a special situation, and it was truly only Po who could defeat Tai Lung (I'll adress this in a new post.) Have ya'll ever of this rule, in both film making and book writing, that authors must refrain from degrading everyone's intelligence so that a single character can appear in the caliber of a genius? Basically, what I'm saying is that you cannot make the five (escape Tigress) leagues weaker than their original selves just for the sake of making Po or your main OCs appear stronger. One, that's a terrible illusion that even a blind man can see through. And two, that's just disrespectful for a The Five. Not only are the five overshadowed, but ya'll also heavily disregarded the fact that they are warriors that did a lot. You're forgetting that Tigress can do this
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Do not forget that she is the person who can do so much more. If you want a story where Tigress becomes a damsel in distress, and Po is the one to save her, DO NOT get her kidnapped by five wolves. Or ten. Or even twenty. Because this tiger can handle of them easy. Make sure she is defeated by a whole fudging army, or a bunch of hooded warriors who are thousands of years old and are as good as Shifu in kung fu. Make sure her defeat is reasonable and respects what she can do. KNOW what she can do, so that you learn her limits. Give her a challenge, give her a run for her money. Don't make her pathetic just because you want someone else to seem not pathetic. Us fan fic writers say that Tigress is hardcore. Awesome. Badarse. So maybe we should write her that way. Some fan fics I read write that Tigress got defeated because she was hungry or tired and couldn't fight against a few adversaries. I roll me eyes. Bro! You cannot make hunger the reason why she's defeated😂 have you seen what she ate during the first KFP movie? Her meals consists of tea and a small, chewy block of tofu. Please. She had trained her body and mind to resist pain in a way that wouldn't affect her during battle. And don't go destroying her stamina either. If she can go the whole night just battling a bunch of wolves, without even so much as passing out then pulease, don't make tiredness as an excuse. But there are some exceptions though. Like maybe she got tired because she drained her chi. Then that's understandable. So much work.
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the-a-j-universe · 2 years
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Do you think it was inherently a bad decision to have Future to be heavily focused on Steven and that's why people don't like future and implying RS is objectively the worst writer ever? sorry about this ask and coming off as a rant, I think it just feels like I am annoyed when people say they hate future I don't ask what the reasons are even though I have a feeling those reasons involve Steven, his characterization, recontexturizing the original series in the a way that it can make people kind of uncomfortable, having an entire epilogue series be about him and not the other characters even though, I don't really see what's the issue with that especially if SUF is presumably going to be the LAST thing RS works on if there's no more SU from her, it's seems kinda best there have it be focused mainly on the main protagonist and unless suggestions are given on how to make this work even with a very tight space, it seems kind of impossible to bring closure to all these characters and unresolved plot threads with 20 episodes without it like rushing it and resolving them in the most shittiest way possible, which was already a criticism with SUF and OG SU.
I've said before that my problem with Future is that, unlike the rest of the show, it doesn't involve Steven learning about himself and growind through the Gem stuff. If Gem stuff happens it's either because he caused it, or to contrast the mundane stuff happening to him, or it doesn't tie into anything relevant at all. I respect the decision to frame Steven as someone who needed to be solving problems, and how that's unhealthy, and if he learned all of this while still having Gem stuff to solve it woulda undermined that, but the show was just better when uncovering Gem history and mysteries was representative of how far Steven was growing.
So no, I don't think the issue is specifically that it focuses too much on Steven, but I do think it's probably the weakest season of the show for me, or close to it. And yeah, part of that is just because they didn't have the time they wanted, but a writer's job is to adapt to that and I feel there were ways to adapt better.
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