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mediacinemtographyartetc · 2 years

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The REAL problem with Killing Stalking.

My issues with killing stalking...

is that one side said it was bad because of Morals, while another side says what morals? It's fiction why apply real life logic to a small webcomic that faded into obscurity anyway. Both the hype for OR against is what made Killing/Stalking so well known and if cancel culture wasn't a thing it probs would've been a netflic original series [which thank god I do think fiction is seperate from reality and what happens in 'stories' is fair game but live action stuff yeah thats a no from me]

Also the fact that it's just a story- not everything is supposed to have a life lesson/meaning or needs to cater to a persons needs. Sometimes stories have bad endings, some are just shit.

But I've noticed that when something is a cartoon it's held up to high expectations even though ART as a whole doesn't equel to the only platform for children. Art/animation is a GENRE. Killing Stalking has it in the title, it had tags descriptions it was an adult psychological horror made for adults.

But alas the logic applied to anime/art is always used as an excuse that this artist has power and has a reach over millions and is encouraging messed up behaviour.

But when it comes to live actions/stories that hit a much BROADER reach of people, like coporations who spend billions on movies that reach a wide audiance of both children and adults alike that has MORE questionable and more fucked up lessons and yet those are not only ignored- but even encouraged.

Like Wanda from Marvel. In her tv series on disney plus she tortured people as in- how long were those people standing there, waving. Not eating drinking sleeping going to the bathroom like david tenents jessica jones this shit is messed up and she took NO accountability for it but it's fine she's just such a girl boss queen who's been a uber feminsit god I fucking can't stand Wanda.

Loki, murdered an entire race of his own kind, no- okay murdered 80 people in three days, but no he's just a misunderstood emo teenager and no one loves him. Compared to tony. who when he found out his weapons were being sold to terrois shut his company down and moved to green energy/therapy etc.

meanwhile wanda IS a terroist/hydra aka nazi's.

Look I like marvel and don't really care it's just- it's just the double standards for me. People say oh Tony made his villains BITCH that entire town would be super villains from Wanda alone.

Anyway we have adult movies that no one complains about like,

jhonny depps shooter, sucker punch. Phantom of the fucking Opera!?!??!?

Disneys raya and the last dragon. namarri who is an lying sack of shit and telling a victim who is clearly justified in being distrustful is told over and over again that she's crazy- trust the people who ruined the world- ripped a young girl away from her father, and yeah narmarri blames the main character for dragon elsas death then betrays her a third time. Great lesson to tell so many impressionable young kids.

Oh can't stand a wittle age gap with couples, a year, three five- oh no five is too much what about ten or twenty? Any stories with that is just wrong? Okay okay. Go tell that to Disney then come back to me. And no I don't mean the old style classics were based on folklore back in old days where 30 year old men married young women it's not ecouraging or romantisicing it's a time capsule. It isn't something I just heavily critisice just know at that time frame things happened no need crying over spilled milk when I mention the age gaps I don't mean OLD disney. I mean recent.

Princess and the frog. That lottie was so desperate for a prince she says. naveens younger brother. He's six. And if you go "Well yeah she's obviously not-" Exactly. Yet that logic at disney aimed at children is okay.

But when artists/writers make stories that are NO different then the Media we consume on the daily is held to a HIGHER standard against one person who is just trying to make a living. Self cest with loki/slyvia. I got into so uch shit for Oncest on tumblr now this? Fuck off.

Incest with umbrella acadamy. Incest is gross well lookie here. And yet Umbrella acadamy is a really popular lgbt show so yeah.

Mortal instruemnts where Clarys brother sebastaion [jace] actually KISSED her and had a weird obsession with her. Both are siblings by the way.

Remember the movie that came out? In cinema where it just ended implyfing that Clary and jace were siblings? For people who hadn't read the book they probably thought "What a shit way to end it knowing we shipped incest." my sister had to clarify for me. Like oh thank god- still fucked up though!

Also in IRL incest does happen by mistake, two guys who were a couple kept getting comments they looked like twins they got a dna test and well sweet home alabama it was an honest mistake but oh.

Now onto the Gore feast [alice in wonderland having the mouse pop out the beasts eyeball/ carol with jim carrey how marley jaw unhinged and current marvel going the suicicde squad route of so much gore/torture porn]

As someone with intrusive thoughts this excludes me from watching current series that have gore and such. But as an adult I realise this isn't for me and I'll move on with my life to something else.

Meanwhile nothing. No pitchfolks to the problematic content made by corporations that are reaching a far broader audience yet no one cares.

Also horror movies, in scream sydney and her boyfriend weren't exactly okay? Or what about Bride of Chucky?

Tiffany and Chucky?

Or what about Dcs cock-up of portraing Harley/Joker?

And yet when it's a webnovel. All hell breaks lose.

Why the fuck do people on the internet who are just writing stories/fiction/basically doing puppet shows with their own characters held to an IMPOSSIBLE high standard that you wouldn't hold to companies like Disney?

Or better yet, dreamworks. You assume the companies movies is ALL for children? Watch Kung Fu Panda one moment then put on Blades of Glory the next?

As soon as it's in the medium of art/cartoon it's immedietly assumed to be for kids. The mentality of "Monkey see, Monkey Do." Is ridiculous when compared to the double standards of idk name any zach synder film. All critic is met with "It's supposed to be dark and edgy!"

Films are giving a pass, meanwhile anime is raged on, because people assume cartoons are for kids.

Family guy, simpsons, futurama and Susage party beg to differ.

So As a whole on Killing Stalking, something I read YEARS ago and from the top of my head there was no accurate review of wether killing stalking was good or not.

Over all this bullshit of talking about dark content the macab, and more darker tone of content that is engaging in a different way.

The sides were split in two "Just because it's dark content doesn't mean it's wrong. Not EVERYONE can watch bright sunny media where every one sings Kum-by-ya!" "If you watch it, you encourage and even practice it, people are [blank] apologisers."

When both are muddying up the actual content. Like it's just a dark webnovel it said Psycholgical horror in the fucking tag? What did you expect? Steven Universe???

By this stakes saying something is dark and edgy is profonned is so pretentious BUT also being completely against it is ridiculous.

I listented to Emo music and didn't think of self harm once. Just because some inidvuals gravitate or show signs of something doesn't mean a collective group is that because of what they watch.

I personally don't think that would make someone [blank] because a person can be [blank] REGARDLESS of what they watch.

A person can be a predator if they DIDN't Read/ watch dark content they could just as well like 'normal' light hearted media that's 'none' problematic and STILL be that.

Watching kids cartoons could make you sus, owning teddy bears or even toys or merchendise could make you sus and thats what people have been saying for years.

Not realising that most people re-explore their childhood as adults because one, they can because they couldn't afford luxaries as a kid, missed out on their child hood or it was a comfort and they're trying to stablisie themselves. Or most people on the spectrum like 'childish' things and they've been accused of being sus when finally we're in a position to say thats not the case- although some people call them out for being childish immature and need to grow the fuck up but fuck those people.

Look all I'm saying in case I'm not saying this right- this is a delecate subject matter but to summarise in a metaphor. It's so easy to say, video games make you violent. When a person can be violent with or without the influence of video games.

So killing stalking was raised as "It's good BECAUSE it's dark and edgy." "It's BAD because it romanticises domestic abuse."

No one read killing stalking as it was well 18++++ dark themes, Zack Synder would cry dark themes, I needed breaks reading this it's messed up fucked up and ughhhh.

But as a STORY [god my fucking rambling] Was Killing Stalking good? Story wise? Character wise? discussing delecate topics and yeah did it ACTUALLY Romantisice abuse?

No. to all of it.

Thinking back on Killing Stalking I can't help but think how much of a WASTE the premise was.

That there was so much potential just poofed a waste of a good title, the concept of a serial killer on his high feeling over-confident cocky that he can get away with murder and BOOM. Stalker note, and better yet this stalker has photo's is obsessed with him and both play a game of cat and mouse, you don't know which one to feel sorry for, realising these two are playing on a board seperate from others. Having Staler blackmail Killer with "Oh yeah kill me, but my apartment has photo's and evidence of you're crimes I do like to collect everything you own."

So it's two people with a fucked up mindset having their eyes on each other.

Like the idea of hitchhikers who is the seriel killer the hitchiker or the one in the car what are the chances they are both?

But nope, there was like 97% killing and like two moments of stalking...at minimum there was no stalking whatsoever.

It was just truama dump and truama dump like we get it, stalker has a past abuse and OH look at that icky killer has past abuse too who'd thunk?

The relationship between the two was well done.

I pretty much kept reading just so Stalker could get away, most readers at the time were only reading hoping stalker would realise and escape and that the killer would go to jail. It was the first time reading a bl where it made me uncomfortable with the two as a 'couple' most bl are able to normalise it where you don't realise how fucked up it is until years later.

But this brought it to the forefront.

[Personally I [with no info this is speculation] don't believe the author intended the two to being a endgame psycho killers riding into the sunset, it was meant as a badend story, also the 'fanart' of them being cute personally I think if I was writing something that was heavy or touched on uncomfortable themes drawing the couple as 'okay' could be a mental break- in movies when actors go through something you see them in skits/etc red carpets or other movies. I do see fictional characters as 'actors' that are playing a role a part just for this story [but if there's further information I'm ignorant on that the author did something fucked up- thats substantial then yeah, my opinion would probably not change on new information]

So when it came to killer/stalker the way they were written was well done, the slow burn of being a victim trying to survive both having a co-depency and having stockholm syndrome not just the victim but the stalker too on how they were obsessive and even called out for them in the end.

The whole romantiscing it part...well?

This is just a matter of perspective, but domestic abuse isn't always crying and pain/misery. There are good moments, they're are soft moments and good parts and even yeah romantisciation.

Thats the POINT. when someone tries to leave a relationship they think on the good times forgetting the bad and it's also used as a reward system to keep the person happy with their scenario.

Saying it's romanticision is like telling 'SO' victims "Why didn't you just leave?"

Like it's not a romantisciation of Domestic abuse, it's a fucked up relationship and it shows the whole thing as it is. Fucked up, with sweet moments and being completely unhealthy.

BUT take away the killer/stalker main pair and looking at the story/envioment as a whole?

Trash.

It just dwindled into another bl trope fest.

Worse of, the Killer is well obvs a killer right? And yet there was no comparison or whip lash when you look at Killers life style then the lifestyle around them.

Stalker went through abuse at the military, nothing was done about it. Killer went through abuse at home thats whatever, tragic back story. Who cares?

But the fact that EVERYONE was scummy towards the stalker who was just standing there? like an idiot? What the fuck did he do? He was just standing there!

The aggresive cop who was almost fired and even lashed out?

An old lady smothered a burn patient because he was being loud and no she didn't know who he was, he was just being 'loud'

Who else has this bitch killed? She's even talking about it outloud and no one cares???

Like the world is so violent it's normalised that it makes me think Killer was fine, he was normal.

The fact that the police were incompatent. Like ridiculous but not in a way of, oh like real life where even if you get help they just don't care-

No like geniunaly incompetant. There was no high stakes/agency like the reason things went so wrong was because of the Killers own fuck up of burning his own house down it's like he may as well have turned himself in.

Without the main pair, the whole story as a whole was just bland, the writing potential of mind games, manipiating people, wasted.

With a stupid past/flashbacks backstory, a just victims with so much repressed truama even a therpaist wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. Even though people can be evil, empty WITHOUT truama. Just born one day with nothing.

Instead of having a stalker, actually going toe to toe with the Killer, accapteing ALL the abuse because they would see it as a love language, wanting to kill others so all the attention was on them and dreaming of being their partner in crime not realising their trust was being twisted until the killer could get/destroy the evidence. And the only thing keeping them on a sliver was that the KILLER was being co-dependent and was starting to see the Stalker as an equel that maybe it wasn't so bad having someone on the inside and if anything goes wrong he has a scapegoat. Could twist it where it was the Stalker telling him what to do with blackmail- god so much potential.

When you don't know who to route for- in a AITA? Reddit blogs most responses would be. ESH [Everyone sucks here]

As a story? It's meh. It wasn't dark ENOUGH, the BL trope was a lazy way to fall into an old formula and using edgy content as an excuse to say "IT's supposed to be dark and edgy you just don't get it."

Like it could've been better. Bit of a let down after reading.

I guess the writing would've been TOO complicated and would require thinking but at the same time given that horror/genres get this reception over something that I would consider tame-

[I've been on the internet too long I'm disenstised. I've made it a game where if 'I' feel like scrubbing my eyes then they've gone WAY to far...recently ao3 has been stepping up their game...I approve :3]

idk maybe a Death note/ L VS Light or Sherlock VS moriarty. The concept of a Killer/Stalker would've been so good.

The title is too good for a story like that- it should've been called.

Killing Stalking to just Killing.

Or. Stockholm Syndrome. Thats more accurate to the story I guess.

But yeah this whole "This is dark content you won't get it-" Is an excuse, it could've been darker. More fucked up and better written.

Killing Stalking as a whole? From what I can recall years later which makes this review even MORE biased as I'm probably forgetting details. But from what I remember?

It's mid.

Probably wouldn't read again, and the art style is too much like attack on titan so it sucked.

#I woke up a chose violence.#Been a while since I've seen killing stalking #As a whole I don't care for it #but I don't agree with the hate for it like guh it's not that big of a deal #killing #stalking #not a rant #well okay it is a rant #rant post #Not AGAINST killing Stalking

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just-random-obsessions · 4 years

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This is gonna be a long post so sorry to all the people who follow me for Loki.

Edit: I forgot to give credit to @ceridwenofwales for the amazing album covers! Thx!

The Heathens

Genre: Metal

Lead Singer: Sigtryggr Drums: Ubba Guitars: Erik and Sigefried Bass: Bloodhair

Yggdrasil

1) Pheonix

2) Fuck The Irish

3) I Love Stiorra

4) Shield Wall

5) Yggdrasil

6) Don’t Piss Off The Gods

7) L’Oreal (Because I’m Worth It)

8) Fuck You Better (Metal Cover)

9) Kill Them All

10) Fire Arrows

11) Heathen’s Theme Song

12) We’re Afraid Of The Nuns feat. The Good Christian Boys

Fun Facts!

~ Sigtryggr has a very long argument with the rest of the rest of the band on whether they should add Track 3 to the album or not. Erik took his side because “if he wants to sing about his love, he should”.

~ Bloodhair and Sigtryggr used to be L’Oreal models before joining the band; Sigefried used to be the lead singer.

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The Good Christian Boys

Genre: Metal

Lead Singer: Uhtred Guitars: Sihtric and Finan Bass and Rock Piano: Osferth Drums: Stiorra

Bebbanburg

1) Welcome To The Bastard Life feat. Lil’ Aethelstan

2) Thank God I’m Pagan

3) Bebbanburg

4) Women (I Love Them)

5) Valhalla

6) Heaven

7) I Love My Wife (sung by Sihtric)

8) Uncle Issues feat. Aelfric

9) Fergalicious (Metal Cover)

10) Babysitters feat. Eadith

11) Turd feat. Sigtryggr

12) Too Good A Woman (For God Alone) feat. Hild

13) Arselings feat. Leofric

14) Destiny Is All

15) Ale, Women, And Prayer (sung by Finan and Osferth)

Fun Facts!

~ Uhtred and Sihtric used to be Instagram models before starting a band with their friends Finan and Osferth.

~ Originally, Finan was on the drums while Uhtred played guitar and was singing/screaming. When Stiorra joined the band she kicked Finan to the guitars and took over the drums. Finan is still pissed.

~ Lil’ Aethelstan is a rapper who is good friends with Sihtric and Osferth. They almost started their own band but Aethelstan wanted to be a rapper while Sihtric and Osferth decided to join Uhtred and Finan.

~ Eadith is a Nordic Folk music artist with Aethelflaed and Leofric is a country artist.

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Abbess

Genre: Christian Rock

Lead Singer: Hild Guitar and Rock Violin: Beocca Guitar and Trumpet: Young Uhtred Bass: Aelswith Drums: Pyrlig

Amazing Grace

1) Daddy Issues (sung by Young Uhtred)

2) Baptism

3) Forgive Me Father For I Have Sinned (Sorry Daddy I’ve Been Naughty)

4) Stupid Nature feat. Uhtred the Older

5) Of The Water Bucket

6) Warrior Priest

7) On The Battlefield

8) Wash Out My Mouth (With Ale)

9) Armored Nun

10) A Young Deacon (sung by Young Uhtred)

11) The Bastard Thinks feat. Leofric

12) Saving My Father (sung by Young Uhtred)

Fun Facts!

~ Pyrlig used to be a martial arts teacher before joining the band.

~ Interviewers keep asking Beocca what a “rock violin” is and he just says “it’s a violin but rock n roll, deal with it”.

~ Stiorra wrote Track 3 because “‘sorry daddy I’ve been bad’ and ‘forgive me father for I have sinned’ are the same thing but mean completely different things” and she thought it would be funny.

~ Uhtred the Younger is still trying to get his father baptized because “fourth time has gotta be the charm”.

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The Turds

Genre: Rock

Lead Singer: Alfred Guitars: Aelfric and Edward Bass: Aethelhelm Drums: Aethelwold

Jackasses

1) God’s King feat. Aelswith

2) My Bastard Children

3) Gruel (I Need Meat)

4) It Was Done (To Damn You)

5) Praise Him feat. Aelswith

6) Rightful King (sung by Aethelwold)

7) Good Christian Boys feat. Abbess

8) Lord Of Bebbanburg (sung by Aelfric)

9) Middle Finger From Heaven

10) Ambitious (sung by Aethelhelm)

Fun Facts!

~ Officially, they are just a rock band but their consistent amount of songs about God leads many people to label them as Christian Rock.

~ Alfred is a vegan and promotes the lifestyle to everyone. He pushes the rest of the band to be vegan before eventually being kicked out of the band “for being to annoying” about his veganism. The new lead singer had yet to be announced and rumors say the band has split up because they couldn’t get along.

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Fuck Men

Genre: Metal

Lead Singer: Brida Guitars: Mildrith and Skade Bass and Rock Flute: Iseult Drums: Gisela

Kill All Men

1) A Warrior Alone

2) Men Aren’t Actually That Bad (sung by Iseult and Gisela)

3) I Won’t Warm Your Bed

4) Half Your Life (All Your Madness)

5) I Have Tits

6) Keep Your Eyes Closed

7) Feminsit Anthem

8) Stick Up Your Ass

9) Collectively Men Are Dumb (Individually We Love Them)

10) Ragnar (The Only Good Man)

11) She-Wolf

Fun Facts!

~ Stiorra played drums for the band before leaving to join her father’s band. She was replaced by Gisela.

~ The band’s first name was “Uhtred’s Ex-Lovers Who Now Hate Him” however the name was too long, and Iseult and Gisela don’t hate him so they scrapped it.

~ Rumor has it that Mildrith is soon to leave the band because “being the only Christian is rough sometimes”. Apparently, while Iseult and Gisela have “been incredibly kind,” Brida and Skade have been “unbearable at times”.

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