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Deception.
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do you have any fic recs for ones focusing on episodes commonly used by anti-jedi people (👎) to criticize the jedi and specifically obi-wan? like zygerria arc, deception arc (genuinely one of my fav obi-wan arcs tbh), wrong jedi arc, even like the fives and citadel arcs. you def don’t need to find recs for all of those episodes, but i know it can be hard to find fics for individual episodes so figured, ✨options✨ lol. thanks in advance!!
I think the only fics I have dealing with Zyggeria are more character-focused on how the stint in slavery impacts Obi-Wan and usually how Anakin ends up feeling about it rather than anything specifically dealing with the Jedi as a whole. I don't think I have anything for the Citadel arc at all, unfortunately.
But I definitely have stuff for the Deception/Rako Hardeen and Fives arcs, so you can find those below.
Deception:
Gentle Welcome by Miandraden1
For want of a horse the rider was lost by LacieFuyu
Reversi by LacieFuyu
Needed to be Done by WanderingJediHistorian
This Family is My Home by Batsutousai
The Burden of Secrets by Peppermint_Shamrock (this one also deals with the Tusken massacre pretty heavily)
Caesura (a moment of respite) by silveryink
Fives:
in our hearts some ancient song by whimsicalimages
That's Not How It Happened (This Is How It Happened) by cacodaemonia
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Mace: Hey Obi Wan you've been working hard. Would you like some time off?
Obi Wan: No thank you I’m good. Let's just end this war.
Mace: Hmm. :|
Mace: Would you like to go undercover as a bad guy for a while and go to prison and infiltrate the bounty hunter scene? ...for the war effort.
Obi Wan: ...I will go pack. :3
Mace: Great have fun!
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I'm cleaning out my captures folder and I came across this particular gem (it's either a summary from a fic or a paragraph from one, I can't even recall). Every day stuff like this really has me thinking a lot of widely accepted views on SW/TCW canon/characters comes from people who have just straight up not watched it the source material lmao (not that it's breaking news or anything).
Obi-Wan made the decision not to tell Anakin he was faking his death - or if he lied about that to Anakin so Anakin would resent him instead of the Council, that still shows Obi-Wan is willing to back up his fellow Masters. Heck, he argues repeatedly for the need to keep Anakin in the dark in that very arc, so no, he didn't think the notion was 'bizarre.' Like, some people dunk on Obi-Wan for that very decision (which is at least more understandable than whatever take this is, even though there were some very good reasons for the secrecy) but man, the people who really, REALLY dislike the Council and don't see Obi-Wan as an intrinsic part of it are the hardest reachers.
#jedi order#jedi council#in defense of the jedi#obi-wan kenobi#sw talk#fandom clownerie#anakin skywalker#deception arc
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Hi! I’m a big fan of your SW takes (particularly ones addressing the criticism towards Jedi) lol
I was wondering what you thought of the Deception arc in TCW? Personally with most of the Jedi’s decisions during TCW i feel like they’re making the best choices they can, but with this arc it seems almost uncharacteristically cruel. Even if Anakin had not been attached to Obi-Wan (which the council surely knew he was?), his death would’ve been very painful to Anakin. Doesn’t that kind of go against Jedi compassion and the kindness we consistently see?
Again I’d love your take on this, but either way I’ll continue to enjoy your blog in the future!
Hey @soopisoop! Thank you very much for the kind words 🙌! I'm glad to hear you enjoy the posts!
So I lightly touched on the "Obi-Wan undercover" arc in this older, more general post about Anakin's relationship with the Jedi Council, but, hey, let's zoom in!
Not telling Anakin... was wrong. Plain and simple.
Yoda says so himself.
But the train of thought was:
"The chancellor - leader of the free world - is gonna die if we don't do this, so the stakes are high. We gotta send Obi-Wan deep undercover behind enemy lines, but Anakin is very close to him and known for being volatile, so there's a 50/50 chance he'll go AWOL and fuck the mission up and those are unacceptable odds."
It's not an excuse, but a justification.
And, in a slightly different context, Anakin seems to use this justification too.
Hell, if anything, Anakin thinks the Jedi should employ even harsher methods in the war and that their values are holding them back.
It's just that, in this case, it hit closer to home.
There's a "hypocrisy" argument to be made, but honestly... that's the Clone War in a nutshell for you!
The Jedi repeatedly told the Senate and the Chancellor "please don't ask us to fight, we're not made for this, we're diplomats, we act on compassion not violence”...
... because they knew that's what the war would force them to do: compromise on their values, tarnish every principle that defines them and that they hold dear, turn them into hypocrites.
Yes, the Jedi are compassionate, but they're also at war, and they're forced to pick between two shitty choices on the daily.
And the deciding factor, EVERY time, is not "which option is the better/more compassionate one" but "which option does less damage?"
Lying to Anakin is just one of these hard "no other choice" choices.
And EVERY time they see an opportunity to step back from the fighting and let diplomacy start again, guess what Palpatine says?
"Fuck you, go back to the front."
And when you listen to Dave Filoni's commentary on this arc, it turns out that this whole plan by Dooku and Morallo Eval was actually engineered by Palpatine to:
1) Distance him even further from the Jedi so Palpatine can swoop in and manipulate him more and more.
2) Set the board for another Anakin vs Dooku confrontation, to gauge how much more powerful Anakin has become.
"Y’know, ultimately, what we realize is that the whole thing is a fake-out on the Jedi. That Dooku is conspiring with Sidious to set-up this whole bounty hunter plot to make the Jedi believe that they have once again saved the day, and it’s all an effort to get Anakin isolated.
So what I really liked about this story that, y’know— as George handed it out, was: we tell the story that’s really about Anakin and Palpatine trying to tempt him to the Dark Side… and we tell it more from Obi-Wan’s point of view.
And you see this whole other tale that’s going on, and we check in with Palpatine and Anakin every now and then, until finally, it’s really about them and their struggle. And we see that this is a point that Anakin really wasn’t ready to become the Sith apprentice. He wasn’t strong enough, I think there’s a possibility that Dooku would’ve killed him here."
- Dave Filoni, The Clone Wars: “Obi-Wan undercover” video commentary, 2012
So, again, like... sure. The Jedi made a mistake.
But ultimately, had Palpatine not hatched this particular plan, hell, had he not engineered a whole war designed to corrupt the Jedi's morals... that mistake would never have been made in the first place.
To use an analogy:
If a dude tries to make his way in a pitch black room (the Jedi playing catch-up to Sidious' plans) and steps on a Lego brick (their mistakes)... you don't blame him for it, you blame the guy who turned the light off and emptied the Lego box on the floor in the first place (Sidious).
#long post#The Clone Wars#in defense of the jedi#star wars#jedi order#anakin skywalker#obi-wan kenobi#deception arc#meta#QnA#jedi#as soopisoop put it in the comments...#it may have been the Jedi's mistake but it wasn't the Jedi's fault
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We need to talk about the Rako Hardeen arc. Namely, how circumstances lined up so it really couldn't have been anyone other than Obi-Wan going undercover.
The Council is told there is a plot to assassinate the Chancellor. This plot involves Eval Moralo gathering up a bunch of the Best of the Best bounty hunters to determine who the Actual Best is, and have them be the one to kill the chancellor. Was this his own idea? Who knows.
The Council feels that the best way to stop this is to infiltrate the group of bounty hunters. They can't just make up a new bounty hunter--they wouldn't have enough of a reputation for Eval to trust them. But they also needed a bounty hunter that didn't have a lot of close contacts, who would know if something was Off about how he was acting. Which is how they end up settling on Rako Hardeen.
As it stands, Rako Hardeen has not done anything impressive enough to even be considered for this bounty hunter party, so they need to contrive a situation that puts him on people's radars. They also don't know where Eval's little get together is happening, but they do know he's currently in jail and planning a jail break. So they want something big enough that their chosen bounty hunter will end up in prison alongside Eval and can help him escape to garner some trust.
So you have a bounty hunter from Concord Dawn who doesn't have many close contacts, has a reputation for being a sharpshooter, and can easily be put into position and then replaced. Who are you going to have play this guy? Well, you need someone who knows about the culture of Concord Dawn--and its complicated relationship with Mandalore. Someone who perhaps speaks some of the language. And someone who is a decent enough marksman. Also, it's convenient that if the person who is to play him has a part in giving him the necessary street cred.
So of course, Obi-Wan ends up being chosen for this part. He knows about Mandalorian culture and history, and probably a fair amount about Concord Dawn as well. He possibly speaks some of the language (never confirmed). He's a good marskman. And he is a High General, a Council member, visible enough that if Rako Hardeen were to actually kill him, it would make a huge splash.
I don't think Palpatine told the Jedi who to use. At most, he may have found a way to plant the idea of Rako Hardeen being their fall man, knowing it would probably lead to Obi-Wan ending up in the position.
As for Anakin not being told--operational security is a serious issue, one that has blown up in their faces before. Is it worth risking the life of the chancellor--of Anakin's friend and mentor--just to reassure Anakin in the short term? It's not like Anakin wouldn't have learned the truth after the assassination attempt was foiled. And anyway, we see him being angry in the moment, but that's also probably partly because he could have unintentionally hurt Obi-Wan. We don't see any lingering anger or trust issues because of this (though it's also a kids' show that doesn't always follow through).
So yeah. Once Rako Hardeen was chosen, it was inevitable that Obi-Wan would be the one who was "killed" to go undercover into the role. It couldn't have been anyone else, at that point.
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On a sleepless night after Obi-Wan Kenobi fakes his death to go on an undercover mission, Anakin Skywalker reflects on their relationship to Ahsoka Tano.
"I never had a father," he states suddenly, glancing at her before refocusing outside. She moves to stand next to him, joining him in staring at the passing traffic. There's so many people going about their lives, oblivious or uncaring to the tragedy which has transpired. "I don't mean that I didn't know him," he continues, "I mean that I physically don't have one."
Ahsoka listens attentively. Anakin rarely talks about himself, so she's eager to listen to whatever he is willing to share. "How is that possible?" she asks curiously.
He shrugs again. "That's why they call me the Chosen One. It's because the Force itself decided I should be born." He pauses, slowly inhaling. Through the Force, she can still acutely feel his pain. "There was Qui-Gon… but then – then there was Obi-Wan." She pretends not to notice that he chokes up on the name.
"It was difficult at first – adjusting to life at the Temple, I mean. We didn't always get along," he murmurs, obviously getting lost in his memories. "I thought he was cold and aloof, but that changed with time. He let me stay with him in the first months when I couldn't sleep from nightmares or homesickness." Anakin gives her a sideways look. "I didn't really understand the idea of letting emotions go."
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Closer Than Brothers, a star wars fanfic | FanFiction
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Chapter 20: The Moment Of Truth And The Moment To Lie
She could use Obi-Wan’s company right about now. He would know what to say to chase the fear and pain away, and his presence always gave a kind warmth that made her feel safe.
Grim wouldn’t even mind a lecture about how reckless and foolish she had been.
Except he was not here, he was on a mission, pretending to be his own killer.
Even if he were here, she doubted she would be able to tell him what had happened.
What had happened?
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Chapter two of my Rako Hardeen/Deception from Satine’s POV is up:
But the words that mattered were lost to her now. She could search every recording ever made, every transmission ever sent, and she would not find the tenor of his voice as he whispered her name against the hollow of her ear. He would not whisper that he needed her when he spoke on Jedi teachings to some planetary council. And he had never said…not once since their time on the run. Words she craved, words she would have bled to hear once more, but could never ask… No, he would not have said them even if he’d lived. But the hope of ever hearing them once more had died with him.
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If you bled, I bleed the same
Chapters: 1/1 Rating: Mature Relationships: Obi-Wan Kenobi/Anakin Skywalker Main Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Post-Rako Hardeen Arc (Star Wars: Clone Wars), Emotionally Unstable Anakin Skywalker, Crying, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Angst with a Happy Ending, Love Confessions, First Kiss
Anakin is devastated by the truth about the Hardeen’s secret mission, and decides to put a radical end to his connection to Obi-Wan.
Alas, little does he know he’s not the only one to feel dreadfully affected by this unfortunate turn of events.
or: Anakin and Obi-Wan finally understand that talking may actually solve quite a few problems
Welcome to angst town! When I saw this prompt I just knew I needed to claim it. Angst with a happy ending is my favourite flavour ❤️🔥 Hope you enjoy! @obikinfest
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I swear the apologists have no clue. They want to call Anakin a hypocrite for keeping his marriage a secret and/or talking about the necessity for military secrecy while blowing up at Obi Wan for the Rako Hardeen affair. Obi Wan tortured and traumatized Anakin. Having a paternal figure murdered in front of him and his grief manipulated to sell the con. It doesn't even begin to compare.
Yeah, Obi-Wan faking his own death and disguising himself as Rakko Hardeen was way worse. Not to mention the fact that he then gaslit Anakin by making him feel like shit for getting reasonably pissed off.
When Anakin kept his marriage secret and mentioned the necessity of military secrecy, he was just keeping secrets to protect his men and Padme. He wasn’t doing it to hurt anyone he cared about.
Obi-Wan faking his death and disguising himself as an enemy for a mission goes into the emotional/psychological abuse territory. He deliberately made active decisions to deceive, gaslight, and hurt Anakin “for the greater good.”
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I hate the clone wars deception arc sorely because of this. Why?!
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What's your favourite part of the clone wars deception arc? Are there any scenes you wish had gone differently?
OKAY (lets hope I don't fat finger and delete this one lol)
Clone throwing toast at Cad Bane.
(serious answer)
I have a hard time picking a favorite moment because I love a lot of things in this arc. Its full of blorbo moments for me, even if its very flawed. Its flaws are sort of what its built on though so I can't say that I'd change anything since the biggest flaws (the silly plot and character decisions mainly) are its foundation.
Not necessarily a change, but I guess I'd add some sort of example of Moralo being a 'genius' that they claim instead of just implying he designed the murder box and thought up the kidnapping plot (? which did he? Because how much of that was Dooku and Palpatine?) I don't think they show it effectively in the arc as is. Just a quick moment of him actually thinking up something that proved successful I think would be sufficient because he comes off as too ineffectual otherwise.
I'd also probably add more Boba and Cad interactions. And maybe a mention of Jango of some sort. That history has been hinted at, it would've been a good time to mention it here too.
I'd also have Cad, Hardeen and Moralo bitching at each other more. I could go for about twenty more eps of whatever messy vibes this whole thing had going for it. The back and forth power flips in different configurations between the three just to have to suck it up and work together again a second later is comedy gold. The fact is was a space road trip on the lam is just a plus for me too.
#star wars#stormytitanspeaks#ask answer for anon#deception arc#cad bane#obi wan kenobi#moralo eval#we like the vibes here sir
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Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Star Wars - All Media Types, Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008) - All Media Types
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Sheev Palpatine & Anakin Skywalker
Characters: Anakin Skywalker, Sheev Palpatine | Darth Sidious
Additional Tags: Sorry Not Sorry, Anakin Skywalker Needs a Hug, Anakin Skywalker Needs Therapy, Anakin Skywalker Deserves Better, Hurt Anakin Skywalker, POV Sheev Palpatine, Hurt No Comfort, Grooming, Emotional Manipulation, Manipulation, Deception, Episode: s04e15 Deception, Manipulative Sheev Palpatine, Angst, Heavy Angst, Sad Ending, Rako Hardeen Arc (Star Wars: Clone Wars)
Summary:
Anakin had trusted in him, confided in him, and Palpatine soaked it up readily, encouraging it, inviting Anakin’s friendship. It was all a lie, but Anakin didn’t need to know that. All Anakin needed to know is that Palpatine is the friend and mentor that the Jedi would never give to him, that Obi-Wan would never be for him, not after his betrayal.
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https://www.wattpad.com/1340119510-star-wars-one-shots-mine/page/7
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14230408/1/Mine
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It’s so obvious now. Dooku ran out his streaming free trials and doesn’t want to pay for subpar reality shows when he can surely do it better himself.
#I mean to be fair …..#the box#reality tv#count dooku#s4ep17 the box#hp speaks#the clone wars#star wars the clone wars#Star Wars#rako hardeen#deception arc
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Oh I’m fine just thinking about my love/hate relationship with the deception arc :)
Like I love it because two of my favorite characters from TCW (Bane and Obi Wan) get to interact! Even if its somewhat indirect on Obi Wan’s side.
But I hate it because of what it does to Anakin! That boy did NOT deserve that pain. He has enough to deal with, thanks.
#the clone wars#deception arc#tcw anakin#tcw obi wan#obi wan and anakin#cad bane#but why tho#why make him suffer
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