Lust by Nature {Part 1}
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Pairing: Captain John Price x fem!Reader
Warnings: 18+ MDNI, (eventual) slightly dubious consent, (eventual) Somno, he wants you but is stubborn, violence, succubus reader, sexual tension, reader is given a callsign, minimal descriptions of reader, will update tags as I go
Word Count: 4,015
Summary: A demon by nature; a succubus. Now finally designated to a team, you’re a pilot in how demons and hybrid creatures alike can change the war. However, your previous commanders didn't account for a man too stubborn for his own good. Captain Price stands firm in his morals and ethics, developed by his hardened years in the SAS. You, a lustful little devil, will put him to the test.
And maybe along the way, he’ll put your nature to the test.
A/N: For my own logistics, reader was born seemingly human but the traits and magic did not solidify until reaching adult years, making you appear youthful while stuck in that age. This was originally going to be PWP but I sit here 20k words later... I hope ye enjoy!
Being a far descendant of a fallen angel, you could laugh at the pitiful life you’ve led yourself into.
You’re a pretty thing- beautiful, really. Full of allure and a natural aura of sin that draws others in with a simple look. The blood that pumps and fuels your magic has been alive for a long, long time.
Boredom is a constant in the life of the soulless and damned. It’s agonizingly blurry if you don't set a task or just choose to meander around the world but fortunately for you, you’ve got quite the life ahead of you.
Coming from a state-of-the-art high-security prison base, you’re technically a super soldier with a special drawback. Needing humans to fuel your power; you suck the life out of them, literally, and take energy from their sexual desires and touch.
It’s almost the brunt of the joke when you answer the question of what you are, feeling each time such an expectant shame and laugh to be cast upon you like heavy stones.
A succubus.
Long-acting jester of the demons taken for a lust-driven fool.
Being detained early on in your young lifespan, you were trained to be used as a weapon. Not of mass destruction, but rather something to make these stupid games of war go by so much easier. Not having to slay countless bodies for information and getting a damn good meal from the lives you stole (maybe a few quickies when your superiors weren’t looking), it’s a considerably content life compared to others.
Graduating from training after a few decades was quite the celebration for you and the officials who have been overseeing you for a plethora of years. The military had found a suitable team for you, and you were designated to be put under the supervision of an elite task force.
Supernatural beings were not uncommon in the military, as a large amount were free to live their lives if docile. In the lands of gods and monsters, the humans still held supreme reign over the controlled populations. However, beings similar to you were quick to be captured and either trained or distributed- the world turning a blind eye to what you were capable of achieving in the good and the bad.
John Price. The name stuck to your tongue like you were thirsty and you had a thick paste in your mouth.
No, not semen. At least not yet.
Being appointed to Task Force 141 was exciting. It’s your first time with this much trust, but you know you’d never fuck around too much to land you back to your containment. Captain Price had steely eyes locked onto your form the moment you stepped out of the convoy; high-security cuffs around your wrists and a large band of metal wrapped around your torso. The assumption is to keep you from shapeshifting or lashing out at anyone now that you’re out from the heavy locks and fences.
To everyone else, you looked human. Nothing amiss besides the heavy security detail on your body.
“Captain Price.” Your General’s voice rings out for you, greeting him with a firm handshake.
“General, pleasure.” His eyes dart away from you to greet the man, and you take a small dissatisfaction at the notion, your eyes traversing the expanse of him, already ruminating and calculating his presence.
He’s strong. His energy is sturdy; A cement wall that has cracks laced upon itself, layers of bonding to cover them up and just barely sanded over to appear brand new. His physical appearance leaves your internal senses giddy with the sense of a new adventure. If you’d release your glamour illusion, your tail would be swaying slowly.
The contract was simple; Your powers would be used in specific operations under Price’s command. You were his, and his only, not being allowed to act under any other authority. Behave well and you’ll be integrated more into society by his terms, but the worse you were, the worse your containment.
Your payment? Being able to form a bond with Price, one that will satisfy your demon, while being sure to keep you useful.
The etymology humans created portrayed a slew of differing conditions for succubi contracts, most being a damning thing to land humans a hot spot in hell. Being able to create this tie meant that they’d be your selected mate while they’d bear your mark to ward off any other demons. Under this, it barricaded you from killing said person. Instead, the feeding would come from sexual desire, touch, and yes, semen.
Watching Price, the flames of your creation begin to already yearn for his touch.
It's with a simple handoff of your file, a thick manilla envelope, that gets passed off to Price with no other words spoken, and you can’t help but marvel at how they treat your ownership like a back alley drug. The General nods towards you, speaking your name before the simple “But we just call her Little Devil.” A small twitch of Price's mouth makes you wonder if he disapproves.
“She may be a demon but keep her well-kept, Price. Your trial run in this program is going to do more than change war tactics.”
Shifting the envelope in his hands, Price takes a survey of how much documentation they have on just your captive existence. There could be some good and some bad, maybe all bad but the chance of letting a temperamental half-demon could cause serious repercussions to both sides. Hypothetically.
“We’ll be in touch.” Price responds, the forced-looking grin making the blue of his eyes slightly disappear for a moment. A nod of his head, then attention back on you while judging how to best go about this.
“You speak…?”
It sets a bristle off inside you with an internal scoff. The chance to insult him for accusing you of being either incompetent or something of the silent type settles, but your probation period keeps you inside the lines of behavior. “Yes, Captain.”
When he hears your voice; It sounds ethereal. Like the crisp jingle bells while the sound is eclipsed if not swallowed by soft and red velvet.
A small tick of his right eyebrow was the only movement accompanying a hum in acknowledgment. “Right, well. Let’s get you settled in then.”
With the queue of acceptance, the General brings a small key from a pocket unbeknownst to you, moving to unlock the cuffs. There’s humor in watching you, the new operator being uncuffed while accepted onto base- and hey, maybe you could ponder the religious message it brings forward too.
But there’s not enough time for that notion.
Walking off the tarmac and into the nearby administrative building brings steady heed of stares. “So… Your previous situation. Was told it was more of a containment type of thing. Would you mind speaking on that?” Price’s toned-down voice comes out after more than a few paces into the building, leading you towards a stairwell into the third floor.
“The best way to describe it in normalcy would be similar to what you human soldiers do here- the barracks. Just imagine its very high security.” It takes a moment to draw up the answer, having expected the man to be as nitwitted as the normal “A sex demon, huh?” question asked in every new encounter.
“You’ve always been in that situation?”
The clicking of both sets of feet confidently strikes the ground. A sense louder than the random soldiers milling around you and the lack thereof as others stop and stare in bewilderment.
“No. Not sure if you’re making small talk or haven’t read my file yet, but my demonic integration did not start manifesting until I was in my early adult years. Got turned in when I was walking around the streets in full form. No control whatsoever on shifting.”
A broken-off hum leaves the man, sensing the almost frazzled static around him as he works to keep walking while maintaining an eye on you. “I have. Just wanted to hear it from you.” Truthfully, if you were in his place with an unshackled demon that had years of military experience walking alongside you, you’d have some sense of fear too. “And how long ago was that? When you matured?”
Eyeing him for a moment, he looks mid-40s if anything. Handsome, worn down from war so possibly a bit younger. “Quite some time ago. I’d say when your parents were born, Captain.”
He stops in a mid-step, balances perfectly set before turning to whirr his head at you. Eyes give an up-down motion on you before ticking his jaw. “Huh.”
He pushes his way through a wall of soldiers to an office door before opening it. “And how old-”
“Body stopped aging when all the changes settled. A second sense of puberty that I’m locked into.” The small upturn of your lips doesn’t pass him. All he can do is nod in response.
He makes his way to the desk against the back corner of his office room; The space is a good size, Having enough for his L-shaped desk with two chairs in front of it. A worn-in leather couch on an adjacent wall while a few framed documents hang on the wall, military in nature with medals attached to them while undusted fake plants serve as accents in the corners.
“Very well,” He gives a soft grunt when adjusting himself in his seat before opening up the large manilla folder. “You, are going to be judged based on your nature and human interaction during your uncontained enlistment. Ability to perform assignments, be of aid, and see what your specific capabilities can put forward with us.”
Head nodding in check with each item listed, “Understood, Captain.”
His blue eyes leave the documents for a moment to find your gaze already on him. “You’ve got a good rapport with every previous task, but your previous COs still didn’t state trust as a key factor. Why would that be?”
For a moment, you get lost in the focus of his body language; Price folds his arms over the table, holding his elbows as the pages become spread over his desk. The way he purses his lips after a question that holds an answer he will depend on. His lips make a small smack in the action, and it's cute in the way he’s so human.
“I didn’t trust them.”
An eyebrow arches at the vague response prompting you to continue. “Kept me like a lab animal, fed me or let me feed when deemed easy for them to write off in the report. That’s not how you treat a demon when expecting to use their powers, sir.”
“And this feeding… There’s multiple ways listed here but to be frank- I’ve still yet to get my head wrapped around it. You’re a sex demon, yeah?”
Ah. There it is.
His eyes dart down to the few pages that cover your needs and methods of survival, studying the paragraphs of information. A how to keep your demon alive handbook if you will.
“The premise of everything I need stems from what is deemed as life force, or just called energy. Sex is easy, and feels the most satisfying.” A breath before continuing. “ But relying on just energy wont last me long, yet its easier in some situations. Those barely alive are easy to take from.”
He knows there's more to be had with you. A temptress trained well with a pedigree in what you were made for. But he can only hypothesize. “And what are you expecting from being here?”
A look of surprise flashes in the widening of your eyes, not used to someone asking in consideration. “I’m expecting more hostiles, interrogations, or kills that I could take to feed myself. And sex too.”
“Oh-” A half cough leaves him before looking to the side. Surely he should have known, it's stereotypical but at least true.
“If you want me at full strength, I’m going to need the energy. I’m sure you could understand that, Sir?” The small tilt of your head, almost an aloof look sends alarm bells into his mind. They wouldn’t have sent a succubus in here without some sort of plan already being formed, some procedure and measure being used to-
“I am expecting to form a relationship with you, Captain.”
And at that, a full choked sound leaves him. He deserves doubled pension for this.
“And in what right mind, was that established in, hm?” He grounds out, opening a desk drawer to pull out a cigar before taking a cutter to the end of it. You measure the time it takes for him to light it and take a first steady puff.
“Well, the way I see it- and having discussed it with my previous superiors, this is supposed to mirror a real dynamic. This is the only point of contact to report on my behavior. I don’t think engaging in what I need would go over well if I went wild with other operators or soldiers around the base. Confirm or deny?”
Price’s eyes narrow as you speak, dragging his gaze away to stare at his locked computer screen. A grunt in the back of his throat sounds before taking another inhale of his cigar. For a man who has been fighting on the front lines for countless years, he keeps the smoke in for a steady amount of time. Healthy lungs. Good for him.
You haven’t tried a cigar, only have gotten a whiff of the burning tobacco coming from superiors. This smell is the lingering one you picked up on Price even when standing on the tarmac. Sweet, vanille and tobacco leaves.
“You said your previous company spoke on this with you.” He starts with a swift movement to rifle through the pages on his desk. “This in writing or are you taking the piss now?” He speaks in a deep grumble, holding the burning cigar between his lips.
An internal groan rattles your mind, already sensing this may be more of a struggle than ease of getting what you were promised. “Last few pages. It’s all in writing.” He seemed like a sensible man in the way that if a warm and inviting body was laid out to him while asking for himself, he’d take it.
“Commanding officer is to set an established and cohesive exchange, herein the succubus will be fed from a relationship in physical and sexual natures while in exchange not damaging or harming the officer.” His accent slides in a bit more thickly than you’ve heard up until now, eyebrows scrunched while he mumbles the page to himself. “And why in the bloody hell, was this not communicated to me beforehand?”
You can’t control the wry smirk that steals your lips while looking at him, trying not to laugh. “They thought it would be a no-brainer.” A pause, “Sir.”
Plucking the cigar out of his mouth, Price sighs while leaning back in his chair seemingly defeated. “You sufficed well without any previous relation in the company, there’s no evidence that this will turn out well.” His eyes now land on you in a quick movement.
“As I mentioned-” He cuts you off with a wave of his hand.
“No. I’m not going to sleep with my subordinate, less so one that can kill me if so pleases.” The uptick of his chin bleeds with firmness, a decision that screams arrogance of finality.
Settling down in a way that almost matches his, your jaw ticks. “Yes, sir.”
And truthfully it's all you can say. Agree and accept to stay here and be the guinea pig for others like you. You can warn all you want but by the devil himself, humans won’t learn until their wrongs meet them in their face.
“If I could so much as advise you, Captain;” Your chin dipping, licking the front of your teeth, and feeling the small prick of your dormant fangs. He nods for you to continue, “If you want me at my full capacity, I will need every ounce of energy I can get. You’re going to need to keep that in the back of your head. It’s not simple like a meal you eat. It’s a life I take or the sex I make.”
Now, a quick smile flashes over him only disappearing when he takes a long, longer drag of the cigar. “I’ll keep that in mind, Demon.” Sitting up straighter, leaning on the desk again.
“But whether or not you are a good girl, depends on what ethics I choose to apply.” The smoke puffs out in small bursts as he speaks, tendrils leading up toward heaven before it stills in limbo at the weight of it.
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The men- your teammates, Ghost, Gaz, and Soap, each greeted you with somewhat seasoned restraint and respect by holding their tongues yet their eyes spoke their curiosity while roaming over you.
You could see the disappointment in their eyes. Being met with a seemingly normal human was not what they had been briefed on. Having let their imagination run wild at the title of a succubus, you’d guess they would have wanted to see every aspect of what kind of mystical enchantress you would be. Once the disappointment of not seeing such things the churches pray against, the view of your human form set in.
Lords above you were the finest piece of-
It felt like a surefire version of winning the lottery to have you assigned to them. Banking on the fact that you’d be their little guard dog and they yours, Gaz already having to scare recruits away at PT while you stared on with a coy smile. Training was as you’d have expected. Executions of strategies, questioning of tactics, and scoring your shooting were all within the long hours of the day. What you hadn’t expected was the lack of insults thrown your way in passing when you met their standards. No degrading words of being a a demon, or a slut by association of your breed.
It was two weeks before you were allowed to come on an assignment with them; The mission in the bitter snow of the Russian Tundra.
12 hours in and having stormed a bunker with countless bodies already strewn across, blood stains the polished cement and a flicker of sinister delusion makes you wish the snow was this color.
Tattered remains of your shirt sleeves show the color of your skin underneath, but miraculously no wounds present themselves even as your kevlar has obvious points of damage. The sight of you standing, gun raised and firing quick bursts of succession as the last body falls to the ground. It’s like a scene out of a soldier's bible.
Your chest heaves, mouth opens to lick your teeth as the adrenaline slows its production in your blood. Price is sure that if he put a body cam on you, it would be a haze of movements, a shadow clouding up the corners of the screen and filled with static. He’s still not sure what to think of you in the short amount of time you’ve been here. Quiet and speaking only when spoken to. And it’s not what he was prepared for; The thick dossier of yours being filled with reprimands, complaints, and classified lines that hid your after-action reports with details on your kill count.
From the first meeting, he knew you were spoiled rotten in that compound, save the punishments given on your worst days. You knew how to get what you wanted. Bitting time and time again to still be fed. Yet, now all he can see is you biting at others if only to protect your men.
“Saint.” The spur of Price’s voice makes you jump, the scene of death halting, eyes darting to a stack of crates where he lays. His squinted eyes lock onto your form, trailing up and down for a moment before he tries to adjust himself with a grunt.
“Who?” You ask while taking a secondary cautious sweep of the room before moving to him in a quick few steps.
“You, sweetheart. Saint.”
His grunt of pain doesn’t faze you, instead focusing the whiff of a sweeter metallic smell hits you. “Is that supposed to be funny?”
Ghost, Gaz, and Soap have the outside perimeter locked down with getaway snowmobiles at Price’s word. He touches the side of his com to activate it, roughly alerting them you both had cleared the floor and will need to medevac in the next coming moments.
“Let me get that for you.” It was a severe contrast to the inhumane growling and yelling from moments before as you tore into the enemies, ones that had you in a blind rage for landing a shot on Price.
Shaking his head, he reaches out his hand to stop you. “‘M fine, just need a quick patch. We need to leave.” He grounds out, leaning forward while covering the wound on his thigh.
Common knowledge brought the understanding that succubi had a level of regenerative power, but most not having been raised in military secrecy or being able to develop themselves into having control.
“Stop. Just-” A breath settles in your lungs, measuring itself and the expanse of what you could do- how you could help and be useful. The previous rage and fight instincts transform with concentration and the swirling of conjuration. “I need a little…” You trail off, eyes sweeping upwards to his.
There’s a shame that humans hold. You blame it on them being entirely born of boring flesh, but that would be hypocritical to an extent. Taking his vest in hand, you pull yourself forward to lean in.
“What the bloody-” Price jerks back but can't even finish as you sush him, giving him a deep stare that almost sedates him. He stills and quiets at the same time, now holding your gaze that he swears he saw the current color be flooded by a deep red.
He blinks for a moment, already trying to fight the small calming waves you push into him but the sudden feeling of long talons priking into his shirt makes him freeze. Like an animal with food aggression, you keep him there while moving in to bring your lips together.
You can taste a bit of blood, and the saltiness of his sweat, while trying not to groan at just how good he feels against you. His lips are surprisingly plump, probably from being irritated due to the cold, but it adds a level of eroticness to feel his wet lips slide over yours.
“Stay still for me.” You pause the kiss that he’s surprisingly reciprocating eagerly, breathing into each other's mouths. The soft plea drives his heart rate up and you can feel the sense of adrenaline spiking. He’s going to sleep like a fucking brick tonight.
He shudders when you come back together with more force, purposefully dragging the tip of your fangs against his bottom lip as you crowd him.
There.
There is the sickly sweet thrum of arousal in his body that makes his mind stir, what you could give in a bastardized excuse of lust right now.
“Mmm, give me a minute.” Comes your wet slurred speech when pulling away, eyebrows furrowing as you focus on on his bullet wound.
The sight of you could be his glory to fight. Tattered from battle, your lips are tinted red, clothes dirty from the gunpowder floating in the air, looking as if so carelessly lethal while your presence is a magnet to him. He's already caught himself wondering why you were chosen to represent a being that fell so far from heaven when your instincts screamed the opposite in small moments.
Looking down to be sure he’s healed just enough, you miss the look of blatant shock he gives when the pink and unmarred flesh greets his eyes. “A right fuckin’ saint you are.” He murmurs, watching you call the boys for exfil, no longer medevac.
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Hello! A while back you mentioned as part of another thread that you believed the shots of the prisoners we see in Undercover show us the "catalyst" to what led each character to commit murder, while also mentioning how mahiru's was hard to figure out because of her seemingly being with her boyfriend. I've been thinking about this recently and how she could fit with the others and i realized, what if her victim is someone else?
Like maybe her supposed boyfriend really commited suicide, but that's not her murder but rather the incident that led her to commit murder. It would also explain kazui's shot since he also seems to be holding someone else. Maybe his wife really is dead just not because of him. These two shots are also that last two we see during that sequence maybe as a way to point to this similarity between them.
Kinda similar to how yuno's abortion and the girl who died in backdraft are not yuno and fuuta's actual murders.
Though i know that (at least so far) there's not that much evidence to this being the case with mahiru since there's no other person depicted in her video unlike with kazui. This could change once I Love You comes out but i am aware that there's still plenty of things this doesn't explain, as is the case with most theories, but i still thought it was an interesting thing to point out!
Oh, gosh! I never really analyzed Kazui or Mahiru's still shots from Undercover under that framing. Even though I said it I was more interested in other prisoners at the time and hadn't even thought of what that would mean for them.
You did point out a new and interesting way to look at Kazui and Mahiru's cases so thank you for that. Mostly though this is a great opportunity for me to go over this idea again in more depth. So, with that and my apologies for how long this will be let's jump into this!
I do believe everyone else's frames from Undercover occur before their murder meaning it's highly likely that theirs did as well.
Since we're retreading that I'll explain it again. Also, because the thread you're referring to is incredibly long.
Firstly, why did I believe this was the case then? Do I still believe it to be the case now? Is there more evidence for it being the case than I previously discovered?
Let's go over some prisoners to find out.
Sakurai, Haruka
In Undercover we see Haruka sitting on what can be believed to be his bed next to his plush rabbit, building blocks, and a drawing he made on the floor. The drawing appears in Weakness right before any allusion to murder is made.
We also see a scene of him waking up in what can be believed to be this same bed next to a worn-down version of the plush rabbit we see within Undercover. This scene is accompanied by the lines,
"I was wrong. Yes, it was me."
A line that hints at the possibility that this scene of him waking up occurred after the murder. Something also illustrated by the nature of this plush toy within this scene in comparison to how we see it in Undercover.
By combining his still image from undercover with the information given to us by him in Weakness, All-knowing All-agony, along with the other information we receive through Milgram we can create a rough timeline of events.
We are told during his first written interrogation that Haruka's family structure is,
Q.07 Tell us your family structure.
Haruka: My father and my mother and me.
This makes it likely that at the point he was taken by Milgram he was still living under the care of both of his parents. We already know that he killed his younger sister. So, she would no longer be a part of the family structure as it is today.
This does tell us that for one reason or another after killing their other child they didn't disown or disavow him. The idea of this is something that's touched on later in All-knowing All-Agony.
Haruka still living with or being supported by his parents is a conclusion that can also be drawn when you compare his answer to this to how the other prisoners answers.
Yuno: Grandpa, grandma, mum, me, younger brother←Yura.
Q.08 Tell us your family structure.
Futa: Father and older sister.
Despite us knowing Futa has a mother he doesn't mention her because she is estranged from his family. As such she is not a direct member of his household or family structure. He also doesn't mention himself because that's obvious it's his family, of course he's in it.
Mu: Papa, Mama and Mu.
Haruka and Mu both mention themselves within their family structure making it clear that they may feel unsteady within those relationships. Having to assert oh yeah and me I guess I'm apart of this as well.
Q.01 Tell us your family structure.
Mikoto: My mother, me, and my younger sister. My sister’s a blossoming high school student.
Mikoto mentions himself as well within his family structure. However, while this could display discomfort or uncertainty with these ties similarly to Haruka and Mu. It could very easily be him going well I don't live with them, but I have a mother and a younger sister or denoting a sense of responsibility and care towards his family despite no longer living with them.
Unlike Mu and Haruka who mention themselves last giving the impression of them being dependent on their parents.
This is something that Yuno and Mikoto share. Despite them both being more than capable of living on their own they both show a great deal of concern and attentiveness towards their younger siblings and have a sense of familial responsibility.
On top of that they're both rather community-oriented individuals. Usually paying close attention to the atmosphere they're in and liking to keep it light and amicable.
Yuno shows us this through giving answer like,
Q.19 Who do you want to see right now?
Yuno: Hmm. My family, I guess.
Though she takes a bit to figure it out and words it in a way that can sound flippant during her time in Milgram we see Yuno partake in several activities that she used to do to entertain her younger brother. First to impress Amane in the portal timeline though she gets a more lukewarm reaction than she was expecting. Then we see her do similar tricks around Kazui and with Futa nearby who are both incredibly impressed.
She probably even requested the items necessary to perform these feats because she very much misses her family. Pus, Milgram probably didn't just have these things lying around... Unless...well Jackalope can hold a frying pan so-nah it's probably not that. She more than likely ordered them.
Q.07 You just got given one million yen and need to use it up as quickly as possible, what will you do?
Yuno: I’ll go out for a really nice meal together with my family.
The rest I’ll give to my friends.
Friends are a form of found family and Yuno mentions hers often. The fact that she's willing to split the rest of a million yen amongst them after treating her family to a really nice meal shows an amount of affection for them as well as her faith in her own work ethic. Something that tracks as Yuno has presented herself to be the sort that doesn't like pity or handouts. In fact, both seem to really piss her off.
Q.15 If you could have one wish granted, what would it be?
Yuno: I don’t really have anything. I’m fine as long as my friends and family are happy.
Leaning more into her friends being an extension of her family she puts their happiness alongside her literal families.
While Mikoto displays this habit through answers like,
Q.09 Why do you give everyone nicknames?
Mikoto: I guess it became a habit when I was at university. Having a nickname for someone that only you call them comes with a lot of advantages, do recommend.
This is not only a good way to bypass remembering names if you're bad at it but also can make individuals feel special. A lot of people lament never really being given a nickname by anyone before. So, it's a fun way of bridging social gaps and making people feel seen though it can backfire at times.
So, it's best to only to do this sort of thing with the right sort of people or people you've known for a bit. Ultimately though the benefits outweigh its shortcomings. Much easier to get away with inside a school setting.
Q.11 Are you the sort of person who considers others a lot?
Mikoto: Yeah, I do. I’m a working adult, after all. Proper communication makes work a lot easier.
Literally conflated being conscious/considerate of those around him as proper communication.
Q.16 What’s your relationship like with your parents?
Mikoto: My parents are divorced. I get along well with my mother though, she’s the one who raised me. I don’t want to make her worry.
Sorry, let's get back on topic.
We see that Mikoto lives alone in MeMe. He also goes into detail about his younger sister alluding to the idea of him being a bit of a dotting older brother. Then as we see up there, he later goes into detail about not wanting to worry his mother which tells us that being dotting worrywarts might just be a family thing.
Q.09 Tell us your family structure.
Kazui: It’s only me now.
Kazui blatantly states it's only him now without giving any detail on what it used to be. Once again cementing that these are their current family structures not their past ones.
Amane: It was my father, my mother and me.
Amane does the opposite of Kazui's strategy detailing her past living arrangements instead of telling us what they are now.
We see that her family grows after her father went on his "trip" through her first mv Magic through Amane being labeled as an older sister in the credits.
Along with the individuals in her mv being given introduction cards as well as roles,
Sadly, I'm not advanced enough at Japanese to read this and all I really remember is that Yuri is labeled as an older brother within this. So, it'd be great if someone more well versed in the language than me could translate this.
However, Amane's translated lyrics allude to these people being her family or immediate caretakers as well with lines like-
"I won’t say “I’ve had enough”. Will you laugh with me and forgive me? I promise! I can only become a better girl! Only if, only if, only if I could be a good girl. I hope, I hope everyone can be happy and smile. Forever, forever together would be a dream."/ "I won’t say “I’ve had enough” Will you laugh with me and forgive me? I take an oath! I can only become a better girl!"
Everyone in Milgram that has gotten this question and answered it properly displays their family structures in a seniority-based way. This is implied more by how Yuno and Mikoto answer. Putting themselves before both of their younger siblings.
Basically, those who answer all go youngest to oldest except for possibly Haruka's, Mu's, and Amane's which could mention the head of the household first.
It should be taken into consideration that the fathers of Yuno and Mikoto aren't active participants in their life or family structure. They are estranged like Futa's mom.
Haruka and Yuno are asked this question as well during their first written interrogation-
Q.05 What is your father like?
Haruka: I made him disappointed.
Yuno: He’s not been around for as long as I can remember so I don’t know!
We see drawings of what we can interpret to be Haruka's father within Weakness.
We also see Haruka mirroring his father's cold expression at his younger self before shoving him. Chances are that some of Haruka's lines in All-knowing All-agony are referencing his father's treatment of him that was alluded to in Weakness-
"It’s fine, it’s all my fault, right? It’s enough, I am a “disappointment”."/ "You never called me by my name. Instead, you kept calling me “hopeless”. You were always comparing me to someone else. You were always generous, except towards me."
Haruka tells us in his second written interrogation,
Q.08 Do you have any memories of fun times in your childhood?
Haruka: I had fun when I was little. My mother was kind to me then.
So, we know for certain that those lines in All-Knowing All-Agony aren't referring to his mother but his father. The person from the beginning Haruka said was disappointed in him.
The person he only mentions within these answers,
Q.07 Tell us your family structure.
Haruka: My father and my mother and me.
Q.09 What do you think of your family?
Haruka: I like them.
Written Interrogation 2
Q.05 What is your father like?
Haruka: I made him disappointed.
Q.04 What’s the origin of your name?
Haruka: Apparently my parents wanted a girl. It was decided on long before I was born.
From taking Haruka's statements on his father and comparing them to his mother during the written interrogation we can gather that his dad was the one who found him lacking from the start.
Making Haruka's father the one these lines in Weakness are referring to,
"If I tried and couldn’t say it- You would get angry at me and say “You’re hopeless.”. If only I could do what anyone else could do."
"It’s fine, it’s all my fault, right? It’s enough, I am a “disappointment”."
"You praised me by saying “You’re crazy.” Thank you, I’ll do my best. How many more times do I have to do this so I can be human?"
While these lines,
"Tell me, why are you drifting away from me? Tell me, why do you say it’s my fault? The word I tried to say was “You’re unfair”, and those words thought how pitiful I am."
"Why is it breaking? Tell me why? Please don’t change."
Refer to his mother. The person who he states used to be kind to him but changed for some yet to be specified reason. Though it's probably because he killed his sister her daughter. Something alluded to through these answers in his first written interrogation,
Q.17 Do you have anything you regret?
Haruka: I do.
Q.18 What scares you most?
Haruka: Betraying people.
Along with the lyrics within Weakness,
"I wanted to be a pitied and loved weakling- I was in denial, I was in denial."- "I was wrong. Yes, it was me."
Giving us a lot to work with to speculate a rough timeline of events. Haruka started out mostly viewed with contempt by his father who viewed him as being a disappointment in every way. His parents wanted their first child to be a daughter instead they had a son. Giving real meaning to the line,
"My life started in a wrong spot."
Not only that, it is implied that Haruka has difficulties when it comes to developing communication skills needing more attention when it comes to developing them. Something that isn't implied to be an issue with his younger sister.
The person his father was comparing him to leading to the highlighted line in All-knowing All-agony,
"Can I be your favorite this time?”
*Sidenote- This is possibly why Haruka emphasizes the warden not being his mom because he's placed Es and the guards in a father role. Something alluded to through the highlighted lyric being this line.
Along with the follow up to this line,
"You praised me by saying “You’re crazy.” Thank you, I’ll do my best. How many more times do I have to do this so I can be human?" - "Don’t wipe me out, don’t wipe me out- I just want to be your good boy. I will keep on killing to be a good boy."
Chances are Haruka reached a certain age his father and mother tried for another kid. Then successfully had a daughter that his father favored more than him. Something once again implied through All-knowing All-Agony.
Specifically, through this line,
"You were always generous, except towards me."
We are shown that Haruka's mom has a lot of jewelry, they have a particularly big home, and throughout Weakness and All-Knowing All-Agony we see they have various pets. Chances are the one paying for all these things was Haruka's father. He bought things for the family and probably his daughter but didn't really find it necessary or worthwhile to treat Haruka to the same generosity.
Because, well he didn't like him from the start. Hell, I don't know why his father didn't like him but I do know he didn't like him before the murders occurred because that's what Haruka's words imply. I don't have an excuse for the guy it just seems to be what the information given to us is pointing towards. Dude just said fuck this kid it's not the daughter I wanted then got a daughter and was like finally a child I can love as Haruka was just there like, "Um, hey?!"
This is something that all parents can do regardless of if they're blood related or not so I don't want to make assumptions. However, given how Haruka answers the name question I think it's safe to say this is his biological dad. He literally says his parents decided on his name long before he was born.
His father just didn't want a son and yeah parents play favorites all the time. So, it wouldn't be surprising to me if he dotted on and spoiled his daughter and wife more than the son he makes abundantly clear to everyone in the room including said son he didn't want and calls a disappointment and loser frequently enough for it to be mentioned in two songs.
"I wasn’t wrong, I wasn’t wrong! Please don’t say that I am a loser!"
While Haruka's mother on the other hand wasn't as overt about her disappointment but also made it clear to Haruka that they were expecting and hoping for a girl. She didn't lie about where his name came from if he asked probably but she wasn't like ahn fuck this kid. To Haruka's own admission she was nice to him when he was younger.
Plus, he shows her being so in Weakness and laments her changing as he grew up. His focus on being in denial when it came to him wanting to be a pitied and loved weakling highlighting how as he got older, she pulled away. Not necessarily because she believed he needed less help but more than likely a mix of things including having another child to take care of, pets, and being what appears to be the main homemaker of the household.
At one point Haruka began acting out in order to garner attention from both of his parents. It can be speculated from the things we hear in Weakness that could be contributed to his father that bad behavior is usually what got his father's attention leading to him be reprimanded by him.
On the other hand, Haruka's relationship with his mother is more complicated. Leading into his focus on wanting to be a pitied and loved weakling. Since she was kinder to him when he was younger and couldn't do much on his own, he internalized the idea of weakness equating to getting attention.
It's possible that while growing up both of these attention seeking behaviors melded together distorting into the patterns he has now. Where he will do something usually jarring and violent to elicit a reaction out of those he's seeking attention from. Whether the response he gets is negative or positive doesn't matter as long as the response exists.
Ultimately before anything had occurred it's possible that general life circumstances led Haruka to feel as though him and his mother were growing apart,
"Tell me, why are you drifting away from me? Tell me, why do you say it’s my fault?"
Then his behavior in response to feeling that way only exacerbated the issue. Possibly putting a strain on their relationship that couldn't be fixed easily.
Because that's bound to happen when your kid is stealing your jewelry, destroying entire rooms of your home, killing your pets, and lastly killing your second child.
"Even if I keep trying it, it’s broken right away. The things that aren’t here, and the unneeded things- Is it still living somewhere?"
A lyric that is a very direct callback to one earlier in the song,
"I am always repeating yesterday, though it’s important to know when to give up."
Ultimately everything that occurred led to Haruka's mother pretty much going damn your father might've been right. This is why in his first song Haruka is like I was denial about myself but after being voted innocent he's pretty much goes huh, I wasn't wrong then like I thought.
This way of thinking is alluded to in his first voice line trailer quote,
"Then what should I have done instead?! Tell me! Tell me, so even I can understand!"
Something Milgram answered by going nope that was totally the right call sorry you went through that. Then immediately reneged a trial later like actually-
Making his fit somewhat too well into the idea of the images within Undercover being the catalyst for the events that occurred and not the events themselves.
Kashiki, Yuno
Luckily, we covered a bit about Yuno while discussing Haruka. Plus, she's the simplest to explain when it comes to this possible framing of events. Simply put since the second trial a lot of people are in my belief wrongfully assuming Yuno's murder was abortion. Because Es for as good as they claim to want to be at their job is really bad at their job.
Anyway, the image of Yuno in Undercover has nothing to do with the crime she is allegedly within Milgram for. Unless one believes she's throwing a baby over the railing of these steps, but I highly doubt that's the case. Chances are as brought up here Yuno is more than likely making a call to who she believes to be the father of the child. We hear snippets of this call throughout Umbilical-
"What do you want to do? Please tell me."- "I messed up-I found out."- "Are we over? Please don’t answer- What do you want to do? Please tell me."
Pregnancy symptoms are alluded to throughout both of Yuno's songs. Through lyrics such as,
"I feel a little weird, I’m still not used to feeling this way. I can’t get you out of my head. It’s a secret, ok?"- "Just the two of us, I feel a little tingle inside."
The very first line of her first song hints to the fact that she knew she was pregnant from the beginning and was keeping it a secret from the father. Something that is alluded to again in the same song,
"Just the two of us I finally found it. The lies are endless."
Throughout the song we see Yuno repeatedly blowing up this balloon while it develops throughout the video.
And as we're shown her blowing up this balloon after the previous imagery she interjects asking,
"Am I a bad girl?" before saying, "Please, don't answer."
Then asks what the other persons wants to do and prompts them to answer.
This all alludes to the idea that Yuno in fact planned to get pregnant. Something she hints at during her second trial interrogation through saying,
"The result of doing a lot of sugar-babying: .... abortion. That's probably my murder. Well, please go ahead and bask in the truth you've been looking for so badly. How is it? Satisfied? Then, can we finish this up already?"
"You're not that surprised, huh? As I thought, you gathered at least that much from the song you extracted last time."
"Well, yes. As one possibility, I thought it was likely."
"I'm sure. Well, I had this inkling of a sensation that was how it was. I could feel it." - "I can hear throughout Milgram- Everybody else probably can too. These voices peeking, digging around, talking about my sins."
Tear Drop- "So nauseating...so creepy...will you please disappear? “Phew. Anyway!”."
Yuno blatantly admits to hearing what the audience has been saying regarding her case over the course of the intermission and that all the prisoners have been hearing it. Meaning they have all had time to build the appropriate response to the fans many assumptions and work them further in their favor or out of it depending on the verdict they want.
This is why It's Not My Fault was as panicked as it was because Mu heard the very active and consistent back and forth between viewers about her actions. Along with probably seeing holes poked into her story in real time as people went back over information during the wait for trial two to start. Giving her more reason to share her worries with Haruka about remaining Innocent especially after the Guilty prisoners were jumped by Kotoko.
Yuno so flippantly mentions her abortion because she's already aware people think that's what her murder was. However, even then she doesn't even fully commit to the idea saying, "That's probably my murder." despite alluding to it being the case within her first voice drama, "Well that thing I was doing which seemingly could be called "murder" - would be my first guess."
Because it's quite simply the easiest conclusion to draw her video is named Umbilical, she knows this the title and her name is stamped all over it. She refers to herself as the composer in her second voice drama,
"We verified the answers regarding what I did, right? So, what else is there? Reason, motive, the feelings of the composer- How about you just consider them to your liking?"
Yuno is very aware of what's going on and how people are interpreting her.
"I'm not pitiable. My family gets along super well. I'm also not particularly struggling for money. I decided to do the things I did of my own free will because they were what I felt were necessary for me."
"Well, even if I was scorned by you; I would have been okay with being told I wasn't forgiven. I don't believe I'm not in the wrong. So, I'd have accepted it. Despite that you arbitrarily assumed things about me and sympathized with the idea of me you had. Even though all I did was make a rational decision of my own free will."
"I'm sorry but that's the sort of thing Milgram is."
"Then, I hate Milgram."
She's aware of her own feelings regarding what she chose to do and doesn't care about the morals or ethics attached to what she did.
"Ah... I don't have much interest in things like ethics and morals. Doesn't that sort of stuff not make your stomach plump?"- "No, but seriously I do think so... There are a lot of people who waste their lives going, "I must uphold these ethical and moral standards" only to end up constrained and miserable. People like that should just live in a more easygoing way."-
"Yes, yes- Of course, I think criminal offenses fundamentally aren't good. Yet, immoral acts that don't cause anyone misfortune do exist, right? Ya know, like being a sugar-baby; That sort of thing tends to be viewed as ethically wrong, so I hid it but... Can someone really be troubled by another person doing that? It's a win-win sort of thing, isn't it?"
"It's as I said before, I have no intent to pursue the rights and wrongs of your acts outside of murder. However, the reality is that this is connected to your murder."
"Hm... that's true. I have no intent to say that abortion isn't murder. I'm a respectable murderer."- "It's not like I'm trying to win some debate. I'm just saying what I think."
Prisoners can lie during their interrogations. Milgram spends the entirety of the first trial reiterating this repeatedly. Yuno knows how sensationalized things can get and the sort of response saying such a thing could elicit.
Yuno tells us this during her first written interrogation,
Q.10 Can you speak any languages other than Japanese?
Haruka: That’s impossible.
Yuno: “I can’t speak English!”
Her answer is written in English though and she very specifically says she can't speak it. Meaning she is possibly fully capable of reading it or understanding people who speak it to her. She's just not capable of speaking it back. This answer show's us she can write in English most would assume okay well maybe she only knows how to write that and nothing else just as a precaution. However, if that isn't the case that would mean Yuno not only understands the Japanese speaking viewers but the English-speaking ones as well.
Couple this with how she highlighted the way certain topics are sensationalized by the news outlets in her first interrogation- Well, she would probably be aware abortion is one of those sensationalized topics. It's not like that's a big secret that's only limited to the states. If she kept the sugar-baby thing a secret because of how it's viewed why would she so blatantly put the topic of abortion on full display from the beginning?
More than likely because she believed it would be the easiest way to secure the verdict she wanted while compromising herself the least. Instead, the response to her behavior only made her annoyed because instead of it being about her choice it was framed as a look at how pitiful this girl is.
And the one thing she hates,
Q.16 Do you have anyone you hate?
Haruka: I don’t have the right to do that.
Yuno: People who like to lecture you.
Yuno's is the most difficult to figure out a timeline of because we're not shown many moments of her actual life during her mvs. However, it's implied that she was pregnant throughout her first mv and second. From the lyrics and imagery within both. We see her going through what could be symptoms of pregnancy during Tear Drop.
Plus, if the balloon is meant to represent her pregnancy, then Milgram expressly shows it developing over the course of Umbilical. Starting out empty going to partially full then being popped. Since there is a heart within the balloon shown during Umbilical that means she was at least three to four weeks pregnant at the time. In Japan you can have an abortion up to 22 weeks after one's last menstrual cycle. So, still within her legal rights to get this thing out of her, it is still not murder as she goes over in her voice drama.
However, if she knew from the beginning of Umbilical as it can imply why wait at all. Even during the part she's singing I messed up I found out she's chuckling in the background. Doesn't help that right before that part she goes the lies are endless.
Yuno's strange circumstances lend themself well to the catalyst idea because we know for certain whatever she did could not have happened on these stairs in broad daylight. Unless she's taking abortion medication in which case it could have but that's stretching it even by my standards. It seems more likely she was calling someone and there are more allusions to that being the case than anything else.
Given the idea that the pregnancy was already going on throughout Umbilical and Tear Drop there is a chance that whatever Yuno did that could count as murder outside of her abortion happened after it.
Making this conversation on the steps about what to do regarding her pregnancy and the asking of "Are we over? Please, don’t answer." the catalyst for what may have occurred after the abortion. Something that could tie into Yuno asking if she's dead at the end of her second trial interrogation.
Kajiyama, Futa
Look it's getting long so I'm gonna speed run. Is what I would say if that wasn't unfair to everyone else outside of the first two- Let's do this "Justice assemble! Till the end!" as he says.
Now, while many people could go- Futa is shouting his victim to death this is clearly a creative illustration of the amount of harassment he sent this person's way slowly but surely weighing them down into taking their own life. This is also supported by the lyric,
"We will expose you all by whipping you with words until you are bruised. You won’t stop regretting!"
Shedding a light on how toxic this sort of mentality can be and how it ends up creating more victims than it protects.
Blah, blah, blah that's boring I want him to kill a man- You're dealing with the person that went man wouldn't it be sick if after all this we find out Futa the "known coward" set a building on fire with people in it. He can't directly confront people and all the fire imagery certainly isn't helping his case-
People can be like that's not morally ambiguous no one would vote him innocent if he did that. Well, lol I know one person who would every day of the fucking week. I told this to a friend who went "If he burned down a building it's the building's fault and their residents for not keeping it up to code. They should have had fire alarms and extinguishers at a point this is on the building owner."
So, it's just the right amount of ambiguous mixed with could you really fucking let it go be like ahn fine it's okay I guess. Look I had to deal with hearing that Kotoko's murder could be an accident if she just beat the man within an inch of his life and he died later at the hospital.
At this point I could rightfully go, "Tch...well we can't blame Futa at a point it's the elements fault. I mean maybe he just meant to scare them. He didn't know the fire would spread that fast come on his second song is called Backdraft." I've just accepted I don't need to be reasonable here sometimes I can just have fun. However, all of these are equally valid points except for mine which we have established is just for fun.
There is a precedent for it given one of the murderers Yamanaka wrote in the past did the exact thing I described because he was too afraid to kill one guy face to face- So, instead was like the fire will sort this I'll just commit arson it's simple and from a distance. It's in gods hands now, lol.
However, once again this doesn't even hold a candle to the truth here. Let me spin you a tale but first let me ask you some questions,
How do we know Futa is a coward? Because he says so? But he also says this-
20/06/23
Futa: Old man, don’t just laze around so carefree like that. Haven’t you thought about how to break out from here? With your physique, you can probably take out the guard and escape, right?
Kazui: Ahh…… Ok, let’s put it this way. You got caught up in a bank robbery, and the culprit has blocked off the police. From a glance, they look pretty weak, and don’t seem to be holding any weapons. Would you try to arrest them yourself?
Futa: ……if it looked like I’d be able to, then I would. You said they’re weak and don’t have any weapons, right? Everyone else in the building’s life is on the line. Those who can fight should fight.
Kazui: Haha, I wouldn’t recommend that. Even if they look weak, they might actually be a lot stronger. They might have an accomplice hiding somewhere. And they might not look like they have a weapon but could easily be hiding a gun. ……you shouldn’t act until you have absolute confidence in your assessment. So, for now I’m going to sit back and assess the situation. And on that note, I’m off for a smoke~
Futa isn't a coward in the sense people conflated him to be. He's more than willing to act brashly and on truly little information if he believes it's for the right reasons. If he has a cause to fight for he'll get his ass moving and do just that. This is why in his second voice drama he's quick to assume Kotoko is being used by Es because this habit of his has gotten him used before.
Then what cowardice is being referred to when it comes to Futa.
It's the cowardice of self-reflection. He's a coward because he doesn't want to face the outcome of his own choices and reflect on his actions. He'd rather simply state he was on the side of Justice and not examine it any further than that. In the same vein he doesn't want other's question his behaviors either because then he'd be forced to interrogate them himself.
This is something illustrated with how he answers questions regarding his life and future.
Trial 1
Q.15 What do you want to become in the future?
Futa: In the modern era, whatever I do is useless anyway- I’m just going along with the flow.
Mu: I’m going to think about it after I go to university.
Trial 2
Q.15 What's your dream for the future?
Futa: I'm not a little kid! I don't have stuff like dreams. Trying hard is useless in today's society.
He shifts the blame to the state of society now a days to avoid reflecting on his own undetermined nature. Probably thinking it's easier to not try than to put in the effort and end up being disappointed. Instead of reflecting on his self- he's quick to look for outward excuses for his lack of motivation and general disinterest.
Being voted Guilty in the first round of Milgram forced him to change this aspect of himself. Because literally he had no choice but to, he was bombarded with other people's opinions on his actions twenty-four seven which forced him to reflect on if what he did was bad to him or not. Something we've yet to see the conclusion to.
This is alluded to within Undercover through the lyric,
"“UNDER” Hiding and seeking from sin. Bring it, submit, and also shut your trap!" /"“UNDER” I am playing hide and seek from the sin I committed. You should all give up and shut up."
The lyric change better highlights Futa's mentality of wanting to do these things for fun but not wishing to be held accountable for them. Through highlighting he's not only hiding from his sin but seeking out the sins of others.
This is shown within his first character trailer distorted voice line,
"Everyone else was having fun, weren't they? What about them? Why is it just me?"
Futa covering Salamander during his second trial is really fitting. As he sheds off the resent filled cover of Mozaik Role to highlight his more pleasure-seeking personality. Still chasing that high having some form of power gave him and clearly trying to get that power back again.
"Hot is good; don't you think so? Is it a big deal? Hey, isn't the word "but" not not good? Want to hear the word "more"- It's heating up inside my head!"
Mixed with his voice drama where he compares the voice of the audience to himself and contrasting it to Backdraft you get a good mix of the sort of person Futa has become through his guilty verdict.
"I’m sick of this! If you sin, you need to do more than atone. It’s karma dude!"/ "You apologize if you do something wrong, you learn that even before words, don’t you? All evil hypocrites should disappear I won’t stop until you say “sorry”."
"Is it all ok if I offer penance? No helping it, out of the question."/ "With just one mistake and I’m out of chances- Bless me, please, with one more chance. It’s not even my fault, not even slightly."
"You already knew, the whole time. You can’t escape, how do you like the taste of punishment? Bring it on! Those who believe in justice assemble! You gotta be kidding! I’m the real hero!"
"Why are the others INNOCENT? I won’t forgive, won’t forgive. This prison hosts ears and lethal eyes, I’m sick of it! You and you, throwing around rules for fun, hoisting up morality and feeling good! Should I succumb, make your wish come true? Full of yourselves, are you?"
"You already noticed right? What you gonna do? Bring it on! Those who believe in justice assemble! You gotta be kidding, I’m an undead hero!"-
"Pick up your mouth-piece grind your teeth and strike a pose!"
"Just like O2, burn yourselves into oblivion- Burn, burn! Open this door and check if you want to; I’ll deign to hear your last words if you want, a vanishing FIRE!"
He's still grinding his teeth and striking a pose yet this time instead of looking down he's facing things head on.
"Can’t help but laugh, can’t help but laugh- Don’t get cocky, you in that cypher!"- "Bust out, explode that counter uppercut! Tolerate, impress those spectators." - "Holler-holler from safety, so worthless- The fight’s up here! Come up to the ring and face me!"
A back and forth between showing remorse and indignation at being judged by people he knows for a fact would do the same thing he did. Because they're doing it to him right now. The refusal to apologize to the audience but honest onus and display of remorse through the line-
"Tears aren’t enough, no way no how it’s going to end It’s so hot, so hard to breath, there’s no solace for my heart."
The very tangible feeling of getting remorse coupled with that feeling of but admitting my faults to you that won't change a thing that won't bring anyone back so why should I do such a thing just to make you feel good? Like,hell-
"Should I succumb, make your wish come true? Full of yourselves, are you?"
Showing that while Futa has grown from his verdict to an extent finding himself and his own values. That doesn't mean he's willing to repent to us a bunch of uninvolved spectators.
The timeline of events for Futa is rather simple; we see throughout Bring It On that the incident with the hat girl triggered something. It's framed as causing a falling out between him and his party leaving him on his own. Something visually represented through his team disappearing at the end of Bring It On.
Futa points out the fact that he's wrongfully being punished for the actions of many from the beginning of Milgram. However, as we know from the light novel despite it not being written by Yamanaka and it being its own spin on the concept that no one is brought to Milgram for actions done by a group.
Each of the characters within the Milgram Light Novel are brought into Milgram for their own individual actions or lack thereof including the guard.
Torch- Stood holding the door instead of allowing help to get to the roof top leading to a classmate's death.
Close- Decided to withhold pertinent information that could have allowed the situation to resolve earlier for her own personal gain. After the fact revealed said pertinent information leading to another avoidable death. Ultimately leading to the deaths of multiple people.
Two-sides- Directly incited the incident that led to all these events occurring and then upon seeing things not go how he wanted doubled down instead of just stopping.
Nervous- Literally stabbed and killed someone. Very purposely even if it was a result of the incidents that had taken place.
Gentle- Stabbed a man except it should be noted the person he stabbed was implied to be a notorious serial-killer that was attempting to kill another woman.
Es- Despite knowing who was causing the incident and about multiple other issues within the story, she decided to remain as uninvolved as possible in what is later heavily implied an attempt to preserve not only her peace of mind but her own self-image. As she is the one to ask Torch to not open the door leading to her own death because she didn't want anyone taking pictures of her in that state.
Note how none of these actions are in no way tied to a group. Throughout the light novel we see that the entire class was involved in the harassment of this student to various degrees. However, these several are in Milgram because unlike those around them who were reacting, they made the choice to behave in this manner. At no point were any of their hands forced.
Yuno's second voice drama specifically harps on this idea of personal choice as well. So, it's not out of left field or anything.
So, taking into consideration all that why would Futa's murder be a group activity? That he himself implied from the beginning wasn't even done of his own accord. It's not- That hat girl situation is just a smokescreen a vanishing fire to cover up and justify what he really did.
I recently interrogated why Mahiru would only show us her alleged boyfriend on day 14- Now, let's interrogate why Futa would highlight something he to his own admission didn't do. Because in his mind that incident justifies what he did do. Futa comes into Milgram with the attitude that it's important for adults and those who are strong to protect those younger and weaker than they are.
His entire first song is about stopping once someone apologizes. Yet, for some reason he flippantly goes oh thanks for the late excuses when this person attempts to explain what happened. Even if it's clearly not the truth of the situation for multiple reasons and it's not an apology why would Futa jump from that to doxing her?
It's not the mentality he pushes throughout the lyrics of Bring It On-
"I won’t stop until you say “sorry”."-"Found one…! Countdown till I make you say sorry."
Easy he wouldn't- Futa's murder isn't the hat girl incident it's the result of running into an incident that made him realize an apology simply wasn't enough-
"You gotta be kidding, I’m an undead hero- Fuck it! Don’t you think so? You won’t be forgiven, a coward, never!"- "Tears aren’t enough, no way no how it’s going to end It’s so hot, so hard to breath, there’s no solace for my heart."
Meaning the coward being referred to by him in Bring It On isn't himself as people initially interpreted but the person who didn't even have the courage to behave in this way under their own fucking name. Whoever Futa knew was responsible for this incident is someone he'd never accept an apology from.
Instead, he did what was illustrated in Backdraft and went the eye for an eye route-
People seem to forget that Milgram isn't just about ethics and morality- because people tend to fail to recognize adhering to such things is a personal choice to begin with. Instead, most mistakenly assume that it's the right thing to do, anyone should behave with those things in mind; it's a good person's duty to do so.
One should try their best to not hurt others and if they do mistakenly or purposely always take onus of their mistakes apologize and try to do better in the future. I mean apologizing is one of the first things you learn how to do in life.
This mentality is remarkably similar to Futa's before the incident. Yet, how do you think someone like that responds when that good mannered nature and naive way of thinking is manipulated not only to be weaponized against them but doing irreversible harm to someone else in the process.
It's enough to make a person go well fuck it you brought it to this level you can fucking die on it. Weird hill to die on but at least they're dead. This is why Futa while repentant, is comfortable judging the outcomes our actions led to and not forgiving those.
"I’m in the same boat as you, and yet– and yet— You didn’t forgive me, did you!? What did I do? All I did was say that what’s wrong is wrong! I was just going off at a bad person online! I didn’t even take it as far as to be violent towards them, unlike what you’re doing right now!"
He admits to going off at someone online- But just like Yuno when it comes to her having an abortion Futa already knows that's what the majority thinks led to his murder. Because the audience has been yelling at him for it throughout the entirety of the intermission.
It's easy for him to admit this, especially since the people judging him and others have taken what he was believed to have done further than he ever could have.
"But all I know is the outcome of them being dead! There’s no way to know whether that had anything to do with my actions, is there?!"
Futa only knows that the person he and his friends were calling out online died. He only saw the outcome. This is something we're shown through the ending of Bring It On.
During the attack on the hat girl in bring it on the hit counter distorts at 1024- even though we are visually shown that Futa has stopped attacking. This is different from the other raids he took part in where the hit counter stops at a certain point.
Ya know there's a funny thing in regard to hit counters in raids in multiplayer games. Some mmorpgs not only count individual hits but the group amount of hits as well.
This is displayed as being the case in Bring It On by Futa's hit count becoming greater as his group becomes larger.
He first starts in a pair of two then a group of nine including himself. Then he seems to remain with that group as the video progresses his level increases over the course of the video as well going from 21 to 132 by the end of the video.
However, the most interesting things in Futa's first video are the mapping in the bottom left corner, the warning that appears during the final raid, and the congratulations screen.
All these things put together give us a very clear explanation for what occurred before Futa committed murder.
MISSION COMPLETE- CONGRATULATIONS YOU BROUGHT JUSTICE TO THE WORLD!!!
WARNING CONGRATULATIONS! REDACTED YOU BROUGHT JUSTICE TO THE WORLD!!!
WARNING CONGRATULATIONS? REDACTED YOU BROUGHT REDACTED TO THE WORLD???
Trial Two Written Interrogation
Q.06 Do you remember the name of the person you killed?
Futa: I'm pretty sure I do. I saw it often after all.
The person whose name is redacted here- The person Futa is being warned about bringing justice to the world is more than likely the one responsible for the finishing blow to the hat girl/the doxing. The second name being redacted here for bringing something that is also redacted to the world is more than likely Futa.
These lines in Bring It On being a direct response to this warning screen-
"You already noticed right? What you gonna do? Bring it on! Those who believe in justice assemble! You gotta be kidding! I’m the real hero!"
Right before Futa's team disappeared. His team's disappearance could not only represent him being abandoned by them/these people cutting ties with him after the incident but him being kicked from the party or guild for whatever this warning was about.
Leading to this line-
"Fuck it! Don’t you think so? You won’t be forgiven, a coward, never! Let’s keep on winning till the end! Assemble! Assemble!"
As Futa literally assembles as a party of one this time to face off against the team that not only abandoned him but left him responsible for their actions-
"Applause receding far away- Me, the result of blame-shifting, no, can’t find that funny."
As we can see from the distorted map during the 1024 hit count image, as Futa is falling back another blue dot has appeared near the target. Making it appear as though he spawned in again. This is representative of someone logging into his twitter account from another location. I believe this to be the case because it isn't possible to my knowledge for two people to use the same gaming account at the same time.
This is why there's an understated feeling of cockiness in Backdraft,
"Burn, burn! Open this door and check if you want to; I’ll deign to hear your last words if you want, a vanishing FIRE!"
Because Futa succeeded in highlighting and gauging what he wished to. He deliberately brought the focus to the incident with the hat girl to test if we would react to the incident in the same way he did. After recognizing we in fact would punish someone to an extreme extent over that sort of incident, he became more comfortable in blatantly displaying himself as a victim in the situation as well-
"Flames closing in, are both sides losers? Flames closing in, can’t douse this FIRE!"
Instead of understating it through visuals and considerably vaguer lyrics as he did in Bring It On,
"You already knew, the whole time. You can’t escape, how do you like the taste of punishment?"
He literally tanked the hit just to win the game and everybody fell for it. Which is the funniest shit.
Star said, "I guess you could call this a pyrrhic victory." something that really calls back to his line of-
"You gotta be kidding, I’m an undead hero."
"A false accusation full of mistakes- You would probably smile and be pleased."- "Even with accusations full of faults and mistakes- You will for sure, with a smile for sure be pleased and satisfied."
Futa is better at planning than people give him credit for. What now is anyone going to back out? What about those ethics and morals all of you were toting around so proudly?
"If you get off now, you're a traitor."
Jumping ship over something like this is as good as saying that girl's life didn't matter right. So,
"Just like O2, burn yourselves into oblivion."
Q.20 Do you believe what you did was justified?
Futa: In no way, and I know that. But it's not just me right, you all are doing the same.
Outside of that, we know from how we see Mu in It's Not My Fault, Haruka within All-knowing All-Agony, and Mikoto within MeMe that the positions we see the prisoners in during Undercover are really how they committed their murders.
Sidenote rip Kazui by the way- He's totally not having a good time if this is the case. This means we just may not have seen the others in those positions yet. We still can though, depending on their mindsets when the song is extracted. Just like we did with Mu and Haruka this trial.
Because ego is an incredibly fragile thing after all.
If the other's get cocky or even a little bit perturbed during their interrogation, they could easily think of themselves in a negative light landing them in the same hotseat as Haruka and Mu. This is also why Futa's first voice drama highlights the fact that we can't tell what a person is thinking based off their body language alone.
After taking all this into consideration and coupling it with the fact that Futa would have either seen a recording device within the interrogation room or known he was being recorded one could argue that he was playing up his nerves even if he was genuinely nervous on some level to make himself seem stupider, brasher, and more cowardly than he is.
Both his songs have a heavy focus on information gathering and distribution. Even when discussing the bank heist scenario with Kazui he makes sure to ask-
"You said they’re weak and don’t have any weapons, right?"
Pair that with how he answers this question-
Q.06 If you suddenly had a large amount of money, what would you use it on?
Futa: It depends on exactly how much. Be more specific with the setting.
This shows that Futa despite how he presents, is unwilling to act until he has a precise grasp of the situation but he's still willing to jump to conclusions based on the observations of others. Misconstruing Kazui's words when he says the robbers look unarmed to them being that. In a case full of uncertainty where normal logic seems to be out the window Futa continues to gather information in his own discrete way.
Because when it comes to callouts and smear campaigns the most important thing is making the one attacking you look worse than what they're making you out to be. This means getting dirt on them before they even have anything of merit on you. Something he did to resounding success even though it cost him quite a bit.
Kusunoki, Mu
Now this one I am going to shorten. I will be pulling a trial two Futa and minding my business.
Mu's murder was outside this is one of the things that remains consistent over the course of her mvs. The image highlighted within Undercover is something that takes place within the school. Not in any of the prominent locations we see over the course of her mv. We know that it's Mu herself lying on the floor between the desks because every other image within Undercover is of the prisoner.
There's also a sheet of paper in her desk with blood on it that references this line from her first trial song,
"Postmortem makeup to hide my heart, how to solve it is a secret. The stabbing of the little devil’s voice, counterattack being a suicide note."
Meaning this scene could be the counterattack and sorry spells she was referring to within her first mv.
This would make Mu's timeline a possible victim to bully transformation. She states she was picked on because of her looks before and we see instances of someone we know is her being bullied. The only thing we have that is contrary to this framing is Mu's own words in It's Not My Fault,
"I told you I’m queen, and it’s always the same."
Except, well- she's sort of a known liar. So, this could very well be a lie. This is more than likely why the song focuses heavily on individuals who want to betray her out of jealousy. If she took her spot from someone else, she'd probably be afraid of ending up at the bottom again even more.
This is why she says this,
"Don’t hate me. Don’t even try to proof from “After Pain”."
Not just to hint at the inconsistencies within the visuals of her first song that highlight her lies but the ones that highlight the truths she didn't want anyone to know. That she was a victim and being one was so terrible for her that it made her want to die- and as a result she was willing to do anything to not be that again even if that meant making someone else a victim.
That's why from the beginning Mu's claimed what she did was self-defense because in her mind it really was a case of them or her.
Kirisaki, Shidou
Shidou was really throwing down- Not the time, I know. It's just after everyone else I'm getting kind of tired. I've been writing this answer since I received it.
I'm so tired that I'm more half in, half out of this post than Kazui is to any sort of commitment. I'm super tempted to end this at Kazui and be done then go play some video games. So, I'm probably going to do that.
Shidou's timeline of events has been mostly figured out. It seems that Shidou was apart of a household of some sort. At some point the matriarch of this household fell ill or got into an accident of some sort. It is implied that Shidou was taking the organs of what appears to be brain dead patients however they could have also been in vegetative or comatose states. He did this through convincing the family members of said patients that the patient had no chance of recovery.
He admits to this being close to the case in his second voice drama but does not commit to the idea fully. Again it should be noted that just like everyone else Shidou has been hearing the audience discuss his case over the course of the intermission and has had ample time to concoct a response. None of these things have anything to do with the way we see him in either of his shots in Undercover.
We see him pretty much gut checking Es and the image of his hands within the video seem to be from after a surgery had been performed or outside of when a surgery had taken place. As his tools are scattered across a wet table and the tray that held them is turned over.
Once again supporting the idea that the image is from before a crime had ever even taken place. Since we are artfully shown Shidou committing his crime repeatedly throughout Throw Down. Yet, in that video his tools are never shown to be in such disarray.
Shiina, Mahiru
I don't believe Kazui's frame from Undercover helps Mahiru's case in any way but we'll go into that when we get to the last man standing.
We see Mahiru in a wooded area holding someone's hand or her own. Throughout her first mv we see her in two wooded areas. The park she confessed to the person she was interested in at where we see her sitting on one of the park benches and the park that they go to the screening of the French film at.
We do not know if these places are where Mahiru committed her murder at or not. All This Is How To Be In Love With You shows us is that Mahiru saw something that she did not like when she woke up at home after cooking him that meal. However, this something is implied to be her murder but just like with Futa before her she could be focusing more on the inciting incident than what she did.
Which seems to be the case since she spends the entirety of her first trial song going over how her relationship with this person started. It is also implied through her diary entries that other people could have been involved at various points.
So, her victim could be someone outside of her boyfriend is what I would say if Mahiru didn't admit to killing him/someone she loved in her trial one interrogation-
"Very well does your homicide stim from love to?"
"..."
"I... guess it did. I think it was love."
"So, because of love you killed someone?"
"I suppose... you're right."
"I see. So, you became a murderer as a result of some relationship conflicts? Jealousy, grudges, having your partner stolen from you. Those type of stories aren't that uncommon now, are they?"
"You're wrong. It wasn't that. I... never even wanted to kill in the first place! I just... I was...just being myself." -
"It's because I've... decided that I'm going to live for the sake of love."- "Being in love is... If there was no such thing as love my life would be so bland. So, if you say that I won't be allowed to love anymore, then there's no point in me living."
"Even if you're love killed someone?"
"You're so mean, aren't you?"
“It was your love that killed someone, right? Despite that will you still try to love another person?”
“Actually, I was hoping that you could tell me the answer to that, prison guard. If what I did was unforgiveable.”- “If my love could possibly kill someone then I… shouldn’t ever love another person again, I guess. Hey, please, tell me prison guard- If I love someone, is that something unforgiveable?”
Mahiru blatantly rejects the idea that she would kill another person out of jealousy due to a grudge, or because her partner was stolen from her by someone else. Now she could be lying especially considering how she views cheating-
Q.03 Have you ever cheated on someone?
Shidou: I haven’t.
Mahiru: Of course not! How could you ever cheat on someone!? Right!?
However, pushing that to the side from the very beginning Mahiru has asserted that she views her crime as something that was done for love and out of love. To the extent that she's now willing to live her life for the sake of that love alone.
Something she believes everything can be sacrificed for.
Q.06 What is worth sacrificing for the sake of love?
Shidou: Everything.
Mahiru: Everything.
She also admits to only having one significant other and states that she would like to bring the person she loves back from the dead. If she knows it was her love that killed someone to the extent that she wants Milgram to tell her if what she did was wrong or not and worries about killing someone with her love again,
"My heart skipped a beat." - 'I... guess I love people who are so enthusiastic about their work."- "Ah, this isn't good. Be careful, okay? Um...um... If you're that kind to me, you could die as well. Just-kidding."
Then it's safe to say that the person she killed was someone she loved regardless of if it was the boyfriend or not.
For the most part when Mahiru answered,
Q.14 If there was one person you could bring back from the dead, who would you choose?
Shidou: I can’t choose.
Mahiru: The person I love.
People assumed this meant her romantic partner but as we've come to see with Shidou they could be using love as a blanket term to remain vague about their circumstances. It's pretty telling that these two are the only ones who were not asked about their family structures during the first trial. This is possibly because asking such a thing would be giving away too much too early. So, they held off on asking them that.
Yet, Milgram does show us that Mahiru does have an interest in family. She's particularly obsessed with raising a family of her own. This is why unlike Shidou who's grieving his losses Mahiru the one who has decided to live for the sake of love is already planning for what's next while seemingly looking for the best partner to take on that challenge with.
Q.07 Is there anyone you’d leave behind if you died?
Shidou: Not any more.
Mahiru: Nobody yet~
Q.17 If you had to describe yourself with an animal, what would it be?
Shidou: A ray, maybe. I don’t have any particular reason, I just like them
Mahiru: Penguin! The way they raise a child together as a couple is wonderful!
Mahiru states during trial one that there's nothing for her to do at home anyhow. Which should clock as odd to everyone given, we see that she's a college student within her mv, she claims to be getting an allowance from her family who she could visit if she wanted to, and we see her go to what she claims to be a relative's wedding.
Not even going into the hobbies she does have- college alone is something to do. So, why did she say this?
Also, there's this voice line as well,
"Don’t say you like someone so flippantly! It’ll disappear…… words like “love,” don’t use them!"
Making it possible that the person she liked more than likely found someone else and she conflated this to cheating/betrayal for some reason despite them not dating. This would make the timeline of events roughly along the lines of what we're shown in This Is How To Be In Love With You.
Mahiru falls in love at first sight with someone that goes to the same school as her after starting university. She's still getting acclimated to the new environment as she states she just moved to Tokyo. She gets situated in a flower shop job she'd had her eye on for a while and finds a hairdresser she likes.
Things are going well but she keeps seeing this guy around town. She views this as fate trying to give her a sign, but she can't find the right opportunity to talk to him. She's a bit shy hanging back trying out the bread she happened to see him buy at one of the stores to feel closer to him. Nothing to out of the norm for someone going through a crush. Just hoping maybe one day he'll come in the flower shop and buy something then they can start talking that way.
But then the best thing happens they start talking on campus casually. Her not wanting to lose this chance hastily says I'm interested in running too can we maybe do it together sometime seeing this as an opportunity to get closer or at least see each other regularly.
Again, nothing too weird but in her head, she's holding onto this idea that they're meant to be together. She' falling more and more in love everyday why this guy just may view her as a friend. She confesses and gets turned down in the park, but they remain friends because as she shows us in This Is How To Be In Love With You she doesn't take the news too hard outwardly. Who knows maybe it will happen one day maybe he just doesn't know her well enough yet.
Plus, she's so happy when around him and doesn't want to go back to how bland her life was before. There'd be nothing to do, this is much better than the other option. They keep hanging out and Mahiru is just happy to be around him regardless of the circumstances. She can even call him in the middle of night just to talk sometimes, maybe even vent some frustrations or when she feels lonely.
Of course, she feels a certain way about it, she's waking him up and she falls asleep before he does. She's worried that he'll get annoyed They know each other's schedules, they go to places together a lot he's invited her over to his place and told her where he works. They're really close friends at this point.
Of course, Mahiru would want him to accept her love after everything he's done for her-
"”UNDER” I don’t just want to give. Both giving and receiving are good things."/"“UNDER” I don’t wanna just give. Giving and taking, this is how to be in love."
Isn't it funny that this is the lyric for her in Undercover but her answer to this question is,
Q.09 What do you want from a lover?
Shidou: I want them to stay healthy.
Mahiru: For them to accept my love! That’s all I ask for!
Her undercover lyrics highlight how she just doesn't want to give but she blatantly says she just wants the love she gives to be accepted. Showing that she wants to be able to give this love above all else. Even This Is How To Be In Love With You is about her constantly giving someone else love to the point of weighing them down. So, where is the taking part?
Could the taking part be her murder? Could that be why she sings this,
"Let’s have matching pain, this sickness is pretty bad."
Not because they had matching pain but because she wanted to make sure they did. It's possible that Kazui and Mahiru may have killed someone other than their alleged significant others but given the information provided to us it seems unlikely. Especially with Mahiru's voice lines.
"Don’t say you like someone so flippantly! It’ll disappear…… words like “love,” don’t use them!" "It's love. This is love!" "Ehehe...I love, love, LOVE YOU!! Don't ever let me go, ok!"
With Yuno, Futa, and Kazui we've seen other parties alluded to however with Haruka, Mu, and Mahiru we have yet to see any other people they could have possibly killed. Hell, we haven't even seen the face of Mahiru's alleged boyfriend. So as of now it's a bit difficult for me to say with certainty if she may have killed someone other than him or not.
I can only say it certainly is a possibility but for the reasons above and the ones beneath here I don't believe it's likely.
Mukuhara, Kazui
Some people say that there's a person on the ground in front of Kazui and on his lap during the Undercover image making this the scene of the murder included later on. However, there's just not enough shadow for that to be the case unless this is a child. The other shadow within the image doesn't structurally match that of a human either, appearing to be an object of some sort.
Possibly a bag or a bouquet of flowers. Meaning this is more than likely the aftermath of him being turned down by someone. Which would align with Kazui's first trial distorted voice line-
"I'm so dumb... Why did I have to dream?" and his second one as well, "Hinako, I love you more than anything." Along with this line from the second trial teaser, "Er, so…… could you listen to what I say without laughing? I……"
If one takes into consideration the voice lines could be out of order. The correct sequence of events. Confession- response to being rejected. Going something like,
"Er, so...could you listen to what I say without laughing? I... Hinako, I love you more than anything." then, "I'm so dumb...Why did I have to dream?"
This is also alluded to through the songs he covered. Coward Mont blanc a song about someone being too cowardly to tell someone else their true feelings as a result their relationship to that person has become estranged and is only hurting them and causing them to form resentments towards the other unsuspecting party,
"All these memories and you- Only if I could erase them."/ "If I can just forget about it, it will disappear; my own reflection."
"Please tell me what I should do, feelings shrouded in lies will float away and disappear."/ "Now it's just fading away, out of my sight, although I'm still sure it's still somewhere right here."
"The curse of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart." /"Once again, I will fall into you while thinking that it's fine for it to be true. I still hope- "Please, let it be a lie." Because the answer spat out was that I was still a coward mont blanc."
"We’ll laugh together and call each other stupid names. So many things I wish I hadn't known, I'm just a coward."/ "Please put me to sleep with my burning inner voice- It's fine for it to be true. Since I can't go back or I will get scared again."
"If I were to make sure and suffer, I would rather be by your side. Laughing together, side by side, this distance in our relationship is misleading me, is this what happiness is?"/"This mont blanc is so sweet I want to drown in its sweetness with my bare feet."
"What I gave up a long time ago, why is it questioning me now? So many things that I should now have known, I'm just a coward."/"You are inside, and the cycle goes on and on. In an effort to answer that- I will gasp."
Then Neo-Neon is literally more of the same thing-
A song seemingly about continuing to be friends with someone after not having one's feelings reciprocated because you still want them in your life.
"Going in circles, Neo-Neon- I should have said the truth if it's going to be like this." - "e.g If the person who apologizes first is the bad one. I will make myself the devil and say, "I'm sorry" a million times- If it makes you smile from the heart."
All of Kazui's songs be like man I should've sucked it up and said, "I'm sorry but I'm in love with you and I know you'll never feel the same but I can't go the rest of my life keeping this to myself." instead he decided to take a minor miscommunication and commit murder over it. That already would warrant a wow honestly sucks to be him that's rough buddy.
However, it gets worse given the picture in Undercover and his voice lines it seems Kazui did confess. This is why he appears to be on the ground dejected with some sort of gift at his side in Undercover. He was turned down this is the inciting incident that led him down this path. Certainly, other things may have occurred, but this is what he means by,
"Where did I go wrong, probably from the beginning?"
He's not referring to the start of his life but from the moment he decided to confess these feelings he had. This is what he meant by why did I have to dream? Why did he have to let himself believe there was a possibility this person would feel the same and the best he could do as an adult is take it on the chin and pretend it didn't hurt as much as it did to continue to keep this person in his life.
"If continuing to hide is called unhappiness, not even one word will get to you-"/"But I wanted to keep on shining to show you I can lie for you- "I'm sorry"."
So, once again there's just more than one way of framing this. Also, Kazui isn't helpful with this because literally if it was his wife dead in front of him during the undercover shot then where is the rest of her body.
The mass next to Kazui is just too small to actually be another adult person and if we compare it to the depiction of his murder within the same video that's immediately apparent.
Es is a teenager and we can see their legs and head extend past Kazui's frame but the adult woman's doesn't. That just doesn't make sense. Even if the victim was laying straight down their head on Kazui's lap in that image we would see more of a silhouette than what we're given here.
Also, you can see the crease of a flower petal near the edge of the object and there are petals on the ground behind him too.
It's for those reasons that I just don't see another person in his Undercover image and can't really understand how anyone else is. Star said unless this is a baby and Kazui's story is the opposite of Yuno's. However, I don't think it's that either even though it would be funny.
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