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diamond-hoo-ha-man · 7 months

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Reading "Children of the Jedi" and HEART WRENCHING REMINDER LEIA IS NOT OK. Also Han is best husband.

#Star Wars #leia organa #Han Solo #han x leia #Children of the Jedi

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haveyoureadthisscifibook · 2 months

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vote yes if you have finished the entire book.

vote no if you have not finished the entire book.

(faq · submit a book)

#scifi #books #Children of the Jedi #Barbara Hambly #Star Wars #poll #result: no #l: English

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jedidryad · 3 months

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WIP Wednesday: Part 3 Snippet

So, it's going to be awhile before Part 3 of Mara's memoir is anywhere near complete. She disappears from canon for a lot of the time period in question. She does, however, have a somewhat uneven presence in Children of the Jedi, particularly at the end where she has it confirmed once and for all that she was not the only Emperor's Hand (and she is particularly upset to find out who else held the title), helps rescue Luke from the Eye of Palpatine (and is introduced to Callista), and helps Han and Leia track down the smugglers that Irek Ismaren practiced his drug induced "brain twisting" on.

All in all, it's a lot of hits for Mara to take in a short period and I tend to refer to this section as "Mara Jade and the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day" - all credit to Judith Viorst.

Here is an excerpt from that day, right after she finds yet another one of Irek's victims and it becomes a bit much:

“Mara?”

The voice was Leia’s, concerned. I could feel myself blink. It was as though I’d returned from somewhere else. Great, now I was blacking out.

She knelt next to me and laid a tentative hand on my shoulder. I fought the instinctive urge to shrug it off and race for the nearest exit.

“Did you know him?” she asked quietly.

I nodded. It was all I could manage at that moment. I realized I was still kneeling next to the stunned smuggler. His mask of unconsciousness was suddenly overlaid with the grinning middle aged rogue who regaled the cantina with his tall tales of getting foodstuffs past Imperial checkpoints, and then I could see how he’d looked in the moment before I’d shot him: skeletal, leathery skin pulled tight across his skull, rage and gnawing hunger on his face. He’d been a husk, hollowed out by Palpatine’s gleeful mind mangling.

No, not Palpatine. He was dead. It had been Irek Ismaren who had done this.

The images cycled again and I felt my stomach turn. I turned and heaved my last meal onto the ground.

“Let’s get you some water.”

Leia helped me to my feet and led me into a little side room. Suddenly there was a cup of water in front of my face. I reached out but my hands were shaking and my vision was blurring.

The next thing I knew, I was sitting down again and she was telling me to breathe.

This did not bode well for my mental stability.

“It’s okay, Mara. You’re with friends.”

My hands steadied and I took the water.

“Kriff, you sound like your brother sometimes,” I muttered.

She chuckled and sighed with obvious relief.

“I’m not sure why. We didn’t grow up together.”

“Chalk one up for nature over nurture then I guess.” I answered, taking another sip of my water. My stomach seemed to be under control again. Embarrassment and shame were starting up though.

“Finding out we were family was one of very few bright spots in a great deal of darkness.”

I nodded. Skywalker always glowed a bit brighter when his sister was around.

Friends, right.

I clutched the cup in my hands almost tightly enough to leave an indent.

“That could have been me out there.”

Leia nodded.

“The reason it wasn’t… I don’t know...” I trailed off.

We were the same, those husks and I. I’d always thought I was different from the others. I’d thought that if I’d followed his orders closely enough, excelled enough, proven myself, I’d avoid the fate of his victims who were too slow or too evil or too stupid… or in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But we were all the same. We were all his pawns. No one of us better than the other.

“In many ways that was you.” Leia’s voice was quiet.

I felt myself swing around to meet her gaze and I felt her startle a bit at whatever she was seeing in my eyes.

“Sorry, I thought you’d appreciate the blunt honesty. I mean that Palpatine’s last command did make you a little mad for awhile there. We all watched you feel it and fight it. Your ability to not give in was pretty impressive. Maybe there’s something that can be done for these guys too.”

“Maybe,” I nodded quietly. I didn’t feel like getting into the fact that sometimes I figured the only thing that got rid of his voice was taking down a spare Skywalker. If that hadn’t happened, I’d probably still be haunted.

Oh Kriff that, I was still haunted. Everything about the first 20 odd years of my life floated around in my brain, ready to flare to life at any given moment and wreck things for me. Sometimes when the hits kept coming like they seemed to be today, I had trouble imagining they would ever stop.

I nodded and took another sip of my water.

“Rough day.” I said.

Leia burst into laughter. She leaned back against the wall next to me and I realized that despite her regal bearing, she was pretty dishevelled looking. There were dirt stains and singing from poorly aimed blaster bolts on her dress. Hair was escaping her braids at every opportunity.

She had been drugged and chased through hanging gardens, rescued her brother from an exploding dreadnought, and scoured the tunnels that had held her captive for other victims, and it wasn’t even dinner time.

I wasn’t the only one who was probably seeing awful things when I closed my eyes.

And the laughter was infectious. Slowly I began to crack up as well.

It felt good to laugh. It felt strange to sit there and laugh with someone else who hurt too.

#epic!bio #part 3 #mara jade apologist #mara jade #leia organa #Emperor's hand thoughts #Children of the Jedi #Irek Ismaren

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geonij31 · 5 months

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Behold, a smattering of quotes from Star Wars books that I think about all too often: sad edition

I think about “but cruelty to Han…no.” All too often it’s destroying me.

Books are “The Truce at Bakura” by Kathy Tyers (AN EXCELLENT READ) and “Children of the Jedi” by Barbara Hambly which I have not finished yet.

I didn’t even include all of the instances of Han and Leia internally mourning happy farm boy Luke.

#the legends books mean to end me #Han and Leia always worry about each other and never about themselves #it’s devastating #star wars #han solo #leia organa #leia skywalker #han and leia #star wars legends #the truce at Bakura #children of the jedi

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legendscon · 1 year

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We are so happy to announce that our next guest for #LegendsCon is the prolific author Barbara Hambly, known to the Star Wars fandom for the classic Expanded Universe novels Children of the Jedi and Planet of Twilight, as well as several short stories. She is a powerful force in the genres of science fiction and fantasy writing with an extensive bibliography of novels and TV writing credits. We are so excited to have her join us!

Photo Credit: Bill Purcell

You can meet Barbara at LegendsCon in Burbank, CA on September 9th & 10th 2023! Tickets are available now on Eventbrite:

#Barbara Hambly #Nam Chorios #Callista Ming #Callista Trilogy #Planet of Twilight #Children of the Jedi #Belsavis #Eye of Palpatine #SWEU #LegendsCon #expanded universe #star wars legends #star wars expanded universe #star wars books #burbank california

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walks-the-ages · 2 years

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You said that legends Luke Skywalker is canonically a-spec, so I'd like to see the excerpts. Not in a confrontational "prove it to me" sorta way but a "I'm curious" sorta way.

I don't have the books or ebooks on hand, but it's Barbara Hambly's duology Children of The Jedi / The Planet of Twilight books with Callista.

Yes, I say Duology, not Trilogy, because the piece of shit who wrote the book in the middle of these two is a piece of crap misogynyst dudebro who wrote an entire trilogy about Luke running away from his responsibilites because Leia nagged him too much about babysitting so he went and did a little Overpowered Gary Stu thing of raising an obsidian castle up off the shores of a corscaunt beach and spent weeks just wandering around Vader's old Castle, sitting on the ceiling and Brooding(tm) about how he's so overpowered and meant for more and he's so angsty because he has a greater destiny and he can't connect to normal people and .. yeah. Anyways. Guy who wrote the shitty middle book is also unfortunately very "popular" star wars book author so he has written a lot of the other Legends book and .... It's always very refreshing to see other people rereading then and being horrified at what they thought was amazing writing when they were kids lol.

So yeah, ignore the shitty book in the middle by what might be Kevin J Anderson? My internet isn't cooperating at the moment so that either the authors name or the name of a random unrelated actor but it's something something Anderson. Ignore his book because he tries to retcon everything to make Callista a wilting wallflower who oh so scared of Luke's power and she feels so inadequate next to him and she left out of shame and Luke spends the whole book brooding about "oh I'm so scary and strong in the force I scared poor wittle Callista away boo hoo I am so sad and angsty because I'm so scary and overpowered" and then shitty author man tries to kill Callista off along with his sexist stereotype walking female imperial admiral lady character

and Barbara Hambly took one look at his shitty "sequel" to her book and said "Nope! We are fixing literally all of that and more, what the fuck is wrong with you dude, why the fuck are you treating all of the women this way"

Woops. Rambled a bit. Kevin J Anderson or whatever his name is pisses me off to the extreme, especially because he was allowed to write so many books that butchers the original trilogy characters even more than the "sequel" trilogy did.

anyways , long story short if you want to see Aspec Luke Skywalker, you can read Barbara Hambly's Children of the Jedi and Planet of Twilight, and also whichever book Luke proposes to Mara Jade in.

Because even as a kid I read that book and was absolutely fucking delighted at the hilariously out of left field it was and how platonic it was.

It pretty much boils down to:

Luke and Mara Jade are stuck in a flooding cave or something where they might die.

The conversation pretty much follows as such, from what I can remember reading over 10 years ago so obviously don't quote me:

Luke: "Hey Mara. We're friends, right? "

Mara: " Hmm, I mean, yeah I guess. We interact sometimes, sure. So we're acquaintances. And I'm not trying to kill you anymore so we're not enemies. And I've saved your life a few times so... Yeah. I think we're friends."

Luke, possibly after almost drowning: "Cool, cool, cool. So. Hey....... Do you want to marry me?"

Mara thought about it for a moment. "do you mean you want to get married now as the last thing we do before we die or...?"

Luke: "no, I mean even if we survive this. Do you want to marry me, even if we get out of here alive?"

Mara pondered the question, looking down at Luke where he looked like a pathetic drowned rat. "Sure." She shrugged. "I'll marry you."

Luke: "Awesome! I wasn't sure if you would say 'yes' seeing as we've never ever even in our most private thoughts considered each other as romantic or sexual prospects and we've never dated or expressed interest in each other for the years and years that we've known each other but I just feel like it's meant to be, y'know? And--"

Mara rolled her eyes. "Luke, I already agreed to marry you despite our nonexistent romantic or sexual history together, so just chill. Or don't, I don't need you freezing to death; now that we're engaged you're not allowed to die on me, I'd look awesome in a wedding dress."

And then they survived and announced their engagement to Han and Leia who came to rescue them and were met with confusion ("wait, Leia, did they even ever date!? How did I miss that!?"" / "No, shhh han, just be happy for them.") But they did go on to get married (I think they showed the wedding in one of the comics).

#star wars #sweu #luke skywalker #Asexuality #aspec Luke Skywalker #asexual Luke Skywalker #callista ming #Mara Jade #Mara Jade Skywalker #star wars expanded universe #fuck kevin j Anderson #The Planet of Twilight #children of the jedi

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jadecrusades · 2 years

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“Confrontation on Caprioril,” by Joe Corroney. “Star Wars: Gamer” Issue #5. July, 2001.

In May of 2002, during Star Wars Celebration II in Anaheim, Jade Crusades interviewed illustrator Joe Corroney who had these memories to share:

There's a funny story about this illustration. All of the other Emperor's Pawns were featured in the Gamer article except Mara Jade, because she was being featured in other Star Wars content at the same time. They didn't want to make a special section in the magazine just for her. I was bummed because I was hoping I'd get to draw her, and I thought, "How am I going to work her into this article?" I talked my art director into the idea of having one of the other Emperor's Pawns battling Mara in an action scene in the beginning. Just so I could draw her, basically! Author Abel Peña and I came up with the idea of having Mara and Lumiya encounter each other on this planet and go at it because they're at odds. So that was how I was able to illustrate Mara even though she wasn't supposed to be in the article at all.

Author Abel Peña recounted his work for the “Star Wars: Gamer” article on Star Wars.com in 2006:

I wrote a short fiction vignette to introduce the article, in which Mara Jade recalls meeting Lumiya for the first time, and their immediate hate for one another. This scenario inspired the cover illustration for the article, “Confrontation on Caprioril,” a story Joe Corroney and I have been dying to tell ever since.

“Mara Jade could barely contain her rage...He said I was the only one, the extension of his will.” So begins the opening vignette for “The Emperor's Pawns.” Originally titled, “Jaded Perceptions,” here appears the first reference to the, at the time, second most famous Emperor's Hand, Roganda Ismaren, who was introduced in the novel Children of the Jedi (1995, Bantam), with which this vignette shares its chronological placement. Mara's recollection of Grand Admiral Thrawn's taunt about additional Emperor's Hands not known to her is from Dark Force Rising (1992, Bantam). The character Lumiya, originally appearing as Shira Brie in the Star Wars comic Star Wars #56, “Coffin in the Clouds” (1982, Marvel Comics) and reprinted in Classic Star Wars: A Long Time Ago Vol. 4 (2003, Dark Horse Comics) reappears here in the Star Wars universe for the first time in many years. Both this confrontation and the second future one alluded to between these two women are new. Mara's residence at the site of the second encounter, however, the planet Caprioril, comes from Dark Force Rising (1992, Bantam).

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bornitereads · 2 years

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Children of the Jedi - Barbara Hambly

Read: Jun - Jul 2022

So I definitely thought this book would have to do with Leia and Han's children. But I was very wrong. The titular children were a group of Jedi children spirited away during the fall of the Jedi Order. Leia and Han go in search of them (although Leia is Chief of State at this time so how she was allowed to go off on adventures I don't know). But Luke has a vision or something and goes off into the unknown searching for the danger in his force vision.

I really don't understand why Luke didn't go with Leia and Han, like his whole deal is putting the Jedi Order back together right now. But instead he ends up trapped on this automated ship. I have to say that I liked that part. It was interesting seeing Luke dealing with a failing vessel that he had no control over. Very space survival horror. And Leia and Han look for the lost children was fun too, mostly in Leia using her fledgling force abilities honestly. Leia the Jedi is one of my favourite things in Star Wars.

I gather that this book (and the two to follow it) are poorly viewed by the fans. It was something I was surprised to learn after reading it. I found enjoyment reading this book. But there was a big sticking point for me in this book, one that I feel is other people's problem with this book as well. That problem is Callista. She's a Jedi force ghost trapped in the computer of the ship Luke is trapped on. She helps him survive the ship and in return Luke magically falls madly in love with her, even though she's dead! It was so contrived and, frankly, stupid that it entered hilarity for me. I started laughing about it. It wasn't something I could take seriously. And just when you were like it almost over, she trapped on the ship and he's leaving, she mystically swaps minds with Luke's student who was trapped with him. So at the end his "student" wakes up and oh wow, it's actually Callista. And Luke is about to break his pants he's so hard for this. But like buddy, that's your student's body. Like you were just teaching them how to be a Jedi and now your like "Callista you're so beautiful!" It really was not doing it for me. It was weird and creepy and so forced! So I can see why the so called "Callista books" are derided amongst the fans. Other than that, I had fun reading it.

Info: Bantam Spectra, 1995

#children of the jedi #star wars #barbara hambly #science fiction #sci fi #fiction

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milkcioccolato · 5 months

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Big Brother Maul had no chance to escape, poor boy! Little Soka’s attack was way too powerful and efficient💪🏻😌

#little baby wants her comfort zabrak #he’s the best cuddling buddy for all the children #poor maul. relegated to hot water bottle duty #milks artsies #star wars #darth maul #maul #jedi maul #ahsoka #ahsoka tano #jedi obimaul au

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maulfucker · 5 days

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racism in star wars will have wikis saying shit like "this species that is inspired on a real life non-white people is just too stupid to use the Force"

#hm i should make an original post tag #yes this is about tuskens #they 'lack mental capacity' to be jedi. according to some writer #which is fucking ridiculous #they have enough mental capacity to have two languages (spoken tusken and tusken sign language)#(they are usually seen being used together but they can be used independently)#just because they're nomadic and hostile to colonizers doesn't mean they're stupid. or lack the nuance to understand good and evil.#in me opinion there may not be any tusken jedi but for the same reason there's no bardottan jedi - they have their own force culture #they are hostile to outsiders and defensive of their people‚ of course they wouldn't let some foreign order take their children away #i think a force-sensitive tusken would be highly regarded in their tribe. being one with the universe is a special privilege.

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ninjigma · 1 year

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Padawans wearing armor so that their clones can stop having heart attacks because they wanted to match their older brothers. The clones are extremely pleased. Side eyeing their Generals hoping they will follow the padawans lead (except for Jaro Tapal, because he wears his armor the whole time like a good Lasat always would, and seeing Cal walk out in his new armor made him so proud)

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bolithesenate · 3 months

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the life of a crèchemaster is many things, but certainly never boring

#imagine having to corral a good dozen of small children that also have access to SPACE MAGIC at any time to do ANYTHING #crechemasters are the true mvps of the jedi order idc what anyone says #random boli thoughts #my art #star wars #jedi younglings #jedi oc #jedi order #star wars oc

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david-talks-sw · 5 months

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Even a children's book gets it...!

It's no secret that George Lucas stated many, many times that these were films made for kids. So what do you read when you pick up a children's book from 2007 specifically about the Jedi...?

An answer to the questions that tracks with the narrative.

Do the Jedi teach you to repress your emotions?

Nope! They teach you to control them.

Do the Jedi forbid love?

Nope, they're forbidden from getting married (because then they'd be unable to fully commit to the Jedi path), and having strong emotional attachments (because it'll get in their way of their mission to defend the galaxy and keep the peace).

What was the Jedi's flaw?

They were oblivious, blind, they didn't see the writing on the wall.

Why did the Jedi join the war?

Because the Separatists were attacking every planet in the galaxy. They didn't join out of arrogance or personal glory.

Did Anakin join the Dark Side to save Padmé?

Nope, he was manipulated by Palpatine. If anything, Anakin joining the Dark Side (and the consequences that ensued) was a betrayal of Padmé and everything she stood for.

"The Dark Side isn't necessarily evil, there can be no light without darkness."

Okay, but in the movies they never refer to it as the Light Side, they call it the Good Side, which by contrast implies the Dark Side is the path of evil.

Bottom line:

Is this all a veeeery dumbed down version of what happens? Yes.

Is it accurate nonetheless 😁? Yup.

Star Wars are films for kids, at their core. The premise is simple, there aren't like 8 levels of nuance to every character. The Prequels' storyline specifically, while convoluted, isn't complex, as demonstrated above.

The Jedi and their rules aren't meant to be viewed as flawed or dogmatic, the book treats it all as normal. Because in the films that's the stance Lucas takes. You can disagree with that stance, but that's the movies' message, not some other subversive take.

#even the fucking children's book gets it y'all 😁#jedi order #in defense of the jedi

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incorrectskywalkers · 5 months

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more disaster lineage cal au incorrect quotes because i really want to write a fic about this but writer's block be damned so i'm doing this instead

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Anakin: I lost Cal. Obi-Wan: How did you LOSE Cal?! Anakin: To be fair, he is very small.

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Obi-Wan, watching Cal do something stupid: Anakin, you're officially only the second highest risk here. Anakin: Hell yeah! I'm gonna— Obi-Wan: Don't finish that sentence, you'll move back up.

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Obi-Wan: Cal, please get that hideous thing out of the living room, would you? Cal, to Anakin: Obi-Wan wants you to get out of the house.

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Anakin, to Cal: Okay, I get it. You've had a really hard time lately, you're stressed out, seven people died- Cal: Twelve, actually. Anakin: Not the point. Look, they're dead now and really whose fault is that? Cal: Yours. Anakin: That's right, no one's. Also don't tell Obi-Wan about this.

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Anakin: What’s wrong? You look 10 seconds away from ripping someone’s throat out. Obi-Wan: Cal and Ahsoka were trying to invoke one of the minor gods again last night. I didn't get an ounce of sleep, thanks to their bloody chanting.

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Cal: Could you guys at least try to see this from my perspective? Ahsoka: *crouches down* Obi-Wan: *kneels down* Anakin: *sits on the floor* Cal: Cal: I hate all of you.

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Anakin, driving and singing to the Little Einsteins theme song: We’re going on a trip- Cal: In our favorite piece of shit! Ahsoka: Doing 95! Obi-Wan: We’re going to kriffing die!

#together anakin. cal and ahsoka are like the unholy trinity of chaos #also to note in this au. cal is obi-wan's padawan and ahsoka is still anakin's #cal would be like. 9/10 when he becomes obi wan's padawan. since in fallen order he was 13 when order 66 happened #the jedi sending out literal children into war like 'yeah this is fine'#star wars #incorrect quotes #incorrect star wars quotes #star wars incorrect quotes #star wars au #disaster lineage cal #disaster lineage #anakin skywalker #obi wan kenobi #cal kestis #ahsoka tano #the clone wars #jedi fallen order #jedi survivor

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legendscon · 8 months

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Please join us in wishing a very happy birthday to Legends Con guest author, Barbara Hambly!

Photo by Bill Purcell

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minecraftian1213 · 10 months

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Baby Obi-Wan once stared so hard into the Force that he was never the same. Ever since he joined the creche the Masters knew there was something... off about the little one. They weren't quite sure what to think of the littlest of the younglings. He always seemed to know things he shouldn't and offered words that often intimidated padawans, knights, and even gained concerned expressions from seasoned masters.

The guards in the temple were less amused when he learned to properly shield himself. Gifted in the art of shielding, Obi-Wan tended to wander from his creche. Normally, a wandering youngling wouldn't be a problem. Where one youngling lingered, a sentinel was hiding in the shadows not too far away. Obi-Wan Kenobi, however, finds the right moment to slip away.

When questioned what he is doing so far from his creche, Obi-Wan always answers, "Force says so."

Qui-Gon keeps stumbling upon a small ginger boy when he finds himself alone. The first time was a memorable experience. It is, after all, the first time Qui-Gon met his future apprentice.

"What are you doing?" And the voice makes Qui-Gon pause in his walk. A youngling is staring at him from behind a pillar.

"Thinking," he answers honestly. The boy, probably no older than four or five, steps out and walks up to him, arms held out in demand to be picked up. Qui-Gon obliges and settles him on his hip, changing his destination to the creches. "Why aren't you with your creche?"

"The masters say I should listen to the Force. The Force says I should be here. With you."

Qui-Gon's lips quirk upward. "Is that so, little one? What else does it tell you?"

The youngling tilts his head, blue eyes shining. Qui-Gon feels like he isn't being seen despite the boy's eyes clearly on him. "Nothing you should know yet," the boy says.

Qui-Gon doesn't ask any more questions, too stumped to know what to ask the boy. The boy of course takes Qui-Gon's silence as his cue to talk. He offers his name as Obi-Wan Kenobi and tells him all about his friend Quinlan who sees things when he touches stuff and- "He doesn't see stuff when he holds my hand because my shields are good. Did you know the guards don't like it when I leave? Guard Feemor says I shield too hard."

And doesn't that take Qui-Gon by surprise. "Is that so?" Temple guards wore masks to protect their identities. Qui-Gon wasn't aware his former padawan took rotations as a guard.

Obi-Wan replies easily, "He doesn't know I know."

Qui-Gon quickly returns the youngling to his creche. The second escape and return allows Obi to decide he likes this master. It's the seventh escapade from their first meeting that the guards and creche masters and even passing jedi learn that when Obi-Wan goes missing he's with Qui-Gon.

#this was originally about baby Obi-Wan being a menace of a seer #then it became about baby Obi being a menace of a seer who follows the Will Of The Force in a way that even Qui-Gon can't follow #Qui-Gon picks Obi-Wan up bc jedi babies are cute and raised by everyone #also if you've never interacted with a child I should inform you that children do in fact walk up to people and ask for uppies #anyway here's a thing #jedi babies are very trusting #baby Obi will look into peoples souls and tell them the most off the wall shit #many jedi actually go to therapy because of this #maybe if Mace doesn't Look at him then he can ignore the Shatterpoints #star wars #star wars series #obi wan kenobi #qui gon jinn #qui gon and obi wan #baby Obi-Wan #star wars headcanons

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