Loki is the Catalyst of Marvel
*If he didn’t let the Frost Giants into Asgard to interrupt Thor’s coronation, Thor wouldn’t have come to Earth and met Selvig who then later helped Loki create the ‘space portal machine’ in the Avengers.
*If he didn’t try to destroy Jotunheim then he would never have fallen into the black hole, gotten the Space and Mind stone and got the Avengers to assemble and ‘deliver’ these Infinity Stones to them. He let himself get caught by the Avengers because he WANTED to LOSE!
*If he hadn’t of killed Coulson, we wouldn’t have Agents of SHIELD.
*If he hadn’t got the sceptre, Wanda wouldn’t have gotten her amplified powers nor would Vision or Ultron ever have existed. Thor & Tony wouldn’t have had their prophesying visions about what would likely happen in IW
*If he didn’t let Thanos kill him in Infinity War, Thor would have been snapped out of existence and Thanos would have succeeded in erasing half
of the universe
*In Thor The Dark World, he saved Jane in order to prevent the Aether (the Reality Stone) from disappearing into the void
*He accidentally got his mother killed & therefore banished Odin which caused to age faster which resulted in him dying and Hela to be released.
*He also called for Skurge to take them back to Asgard via the Bifrost but Hela caught the ride with them which resulted in he and Thor to be sent to Sakaar where Thor reunited with the Hulk and met Valkyrie and Ragnarok to be caused.
*If he didn’t take the Tesseract from Odin’s vault in Thor Ragnarok, Thanos wouldn’t have been able to find it therefore the snap either wouldn’t have happened or been delayed.
*If he didn’t use the Tesseract to escape in Endgame, we wouldn’t have the multiverse since he wouldn’t have become the ‘God of Stories’ or create the TVA.
*Sylvie Killing Kang at the end of ‘Loki S1’ made the next big villain for the Avengers to face in Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.
*In ‘Loki S2,’ he has to save the multiverse from being destroyed.
*Loki has to recruit heroes from across the multiverse in order to eliminate the ‘Kang Threat.’
*He can manipulate and re write time now that he is the ‘God of Stories.’
He is a catalyst.
So there. Loki is indeed more important to the Marvel Universe than we all realised. 😌
Doctor Strange saw that the only way it would all work was if Tony sacrificed himself. He saw what Loki was doing behind the scenes. Loki recruited HIMSELF into the TVA after recruiting Mobius and other underdogs in order
to humble him. He even created Sylvie so that he could see from the outside what he had once been like and learn to ‘love himself.’ He has to tell her and his past self to not be selfish and power hungry (akin to Charles telling Logan to ‘guide his younger self’ in X-Men: Days of Future Past. He was ‘acting’ bad in the Avengers!! Loki admired Tony because of what he was doing. His purpose was to save the universe! 😭 He told Thor that the ‘Sun would shine on them again’ because he KNEW that they would reunite again eventually and told Thanos ‘You will never be a God.’ Because Loki was always that many steps ahead in the grand scheme of things. . He was guiding himself and everyone else the ENTIRE time!😌💚
Btw: Loki called Don ‘Mobius’ due to Tony discovering the ‘Mobius’ strip’ in Endgame. He always admired Tony’s ‘glorious purpose’ and that’s why he keeps referring to him in the ‘Loki’ series and Mobius knows ALL about Loki because HE, Loki as the ‘God of Stories’ MADE him that way!😉🧬
Loki’s Impact on the Marvel Universe So Far
He deliberately got caught by the Avengers so that the respective items got delivered and he WANTED to LOSE!
*If he didn’t let the Frost Giants into Asgard to interrupt Thor’s coronation, Thor wouldn’t have come to Earth and met Selvig who then later helped Loki create the ‘space portal machine’ in the Avengers.
*If he didn’t try to destroy Jotunheim then he would never have fallen into the black hole, gotten the Space and Mind stone and got the Avengers to assemble and ‘deliver’ these Infinity Stones to them. He let himself get caught by the Avengers because he WANTED to LOSE!
*If he hadn’t of killed Coulson, we wouldn’t have Agents of SHIELD.
*If he hadn’t got the sceptre, Wanda wouldn’t have gotten her amplified powers nor would Vision or Ultron ever have existed. Thor & Tony wouldn’t have had their prophesying visions about what would likely happen in IW..
*If he didn’t let Thanos kill him in Infinity War, Thor would have been snapped out of existence and Thanos would have succeeded in erasing half of the universe..
*In Thor The Dark World, he saved Jane in order to prevent the Aether (the Reality Stone) from disappearing into the void..
*He accidentally got his mother killed & therefore banished Odin which caused to age faster which resulted in him dying and Hela to be released.
*He also called for Skurge to take them back to Asgard via the Bifrost but Hela caught the ride with them which resulted in he and Thor to be sent to Sakaar where Thor reunited with the Hulk and met Valkyrie and Ragnarok to be caused.
*If he didn’t take the Tesseract from Odin’s vault in Thor Ragnarok, Thanos wouldn’t have been able to find it therefore the snap either wouldn’t have happened or been delayed.
*If he didn’t use the Tesseract to escape in Endgame, we wouldn’t have the multiverse since he wouldn’t have become the ‘God of Stories’ or create the TVA.
*Sylvie Killing Kang at the end of ‘Loki S1’ made the next big villain for the Avengers to face in Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.
*In ‘Loki S2,’ he has to save the multiverse from being destroyed.
*Loki has to recruit heroes from across the multiverse in order to eliminate the ‘Kang Threat.’
*He can manipulate and re write time now that he is the ‘God of Stories.’
He is a catalyst.
Doctor Strange saw that the only way it would all work was if Tony sacrificed himself. He saw what Loki was doing behind the scenes. Loki recruited HIMSELF into the TVA after recruiting Mobius and other underdogs in order
to humble him. He even created Sylvie so that he could see from the outside what he had once been like and learn to ‘love himself.’ He has to tell her and his past self to not be selfish and power hungry (akin to Charles telling Logan to ‘guide his younger self’ in X-Men: Days of Future Past. He was ‘acting’ bad in the Avengers!! Loki admired Tony because of what he was doing. His purpose was to save the universe! 😭 He told Thor that the ‘Sun would shine on them again’ because he KNEW that they would reunite again eventually and told Thanos ‘You will never be a God.’ Because Loki was always that many steps ahead in the grand scheme of things. He was guiding himself and everyone else the ENTIRE time!😌💚
Btw: Loki called Don ‘Mobius’ due to Tony discovering the ‘Mobius’ strip’ in Endgame. He always admired Tony’s ‘glorious purpose’ and that’s why he keeps referring to him in the ‘Loki’ series and Mobius knows ALL about Loki because HE, Loki MADE him that way!😉🧬
He actually planned to get killed by Thanos in order to save Thor from being snapped and he knew that he would come back one way or another. He said these things for a reason! “I assure you brother, the sun will shine on us again” and “You’ll never be a God!”
Despite Frigga saying: ‘You’re so perceptive about everyone but yourself,’ the older, wiser Loki knows himself well enough in order to change the other, younger version of himself. He knows EVERYTHING about the Avengers members in the first Avengers movie for a REASON! 😉
So there. Loki is indeed more important to the Marvel Universe than we all realised. 😌💚
Thor, Hulk and Loki about the ‘Sun.’ God of Stories Loki made it so that the phrase the ‘sun is going down’ to calm the Hulk down and subdue him and the ‘sun shining on him and Thor again’ was to inspire hope and energy.
The Time Stone is green because of Loki. Did he create it? Did he some how get it to Sanctum Sanctorum?
Did Loki make Heimdall send Bruce to the Sanctum in Infinity War since Loki had been there before (in Ragnarok?) Is that why Bruce mentions ‘Loki’ to Tony, Stephen and Wong informing and warning them about Thanos?
He created the World Tree Yggdrasil and quite literally erased, reset and rebooted the MCU! 🤯
Loki is the ‘World Serpent’ Jörmungandr
It really was ‘Loki All Along.’ 😉
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Okay so it’s more than likely S2 of Loki is going to lead into another marvel project (whether the rumours are true and it’s DEADPOOL 3 or just another set up for Avengers), but I genuinely think if they don’t include Loki in the big fight against Kang in Secret Wars & Kang Dynasty then Marvel have missed a trick.
S1 of Loki kicked off the whole Kang era of the MCU, and it’s a similar notion with the original Avengers. He was the reason they were brought together.
The New Avengers feel so up in the air, there are so many characters that have been introduced but we have yet to actually know who is most likely to be in the gang. (Ant-Man, Dr Strange, Cap, Winter Solider, Black Widow, Cap Marvel are my only real solid guesses atm, but it seems this phase of marvel is more about magic and mystical arts). Loki is one of the only people who knows exactly what is happening and why.
To me… it makes sense for him to be the one who assembles the New Avengers…
I’ve seen a rumour (completely baseless but suspend your disbelief) that the TVA will be plucking different Avengers from timelines to fight Kang, and I really think it could work, because if they don’t involve the TVA in some way then it kinda feels pointless to even have introduced them in the first place beside for a plot point for Loki and to explain ‘variants’.
Loki is one of the only characters left we have been with since practically the beginning of the MCU. He’s a familiar face, a character we all know as an audience… It seems like the best choice for him to be the one to ‘lead’ the New Avengers in this venture, especially with all the new faces and audiences feeling a little unsure about the MCU in general. Also I feel it would be such a good way to end his character arc with an actual redemption that isn’t just a death of ‘he sacrificed himself’. It also seems S2 of Loki will explore his powers more, and the comment of ‘perhaps we’re stronger than we think’ from S1… I think he could be key to taking down Kang.
Also, yes I want Sylvie there too.
Thank you to coming to my TED Talk.
PS - I know this will most likely not happen and I stand by the fact that Marvel would’ve missed a trick with this.
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You know what's interesting? So news was confirmed that Kang Dynasty has lost its two writers. If you look at IMDB, there are a few people "rumored" to be cast in the film, which is in pre-production. Guess who is among the cast listed without that caveat? Majors, Mackie and our bb Tenoch. Now, it doesn't say "confirmed" either but if he's keeping company with Anthony Mackie who IS Captain America and an Avenger, I'd say the odds are in our favor that Tenoch has been cast for this film and can't say anything until it's officially announced. Several factors are pending, but let's send up 🙏🏾.
OH. MY. GOD. I loveeeeee this!
I just had a sneaking suspicion he's there, coz when he was asked about it he made jokes and laughed about it the same way as he did during the tour of Wakanda Forever coz he was supposed to keep details hidden. He's so bad at lying 😂
Even if the strike has pushed this further, I absolutely cannot wait for this to be confirmed. This is gonna be fucking amazing!!
I'm thinking about Tenoch's power. I have strong reasons to believe El Elegido rose to the top 10 in many countries coz of his power. His Instagram engagement rate is a whopping 16%. We can't be distracted by a few haters and racists. This man is a force to be reckoned with.
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The Ring Theory
Kang’s multiversal engine core, which Janet blew up and then Scott blew up again after fixing it, was made of many circles rotating around a sphere.
Kang’s entire citadel was made of circular mechanisms. At one point Kang even yells, “don’t let him [Scott] interfere with the rings.” Rings that glowed both yellowish and bluish hues.
You know who else has rings that glow blue and yellow? Shang-Chi. They started glowing yellow when he took them from Wenwu (they also glowed that color when his mother used them). I think this symbolizes a different universe. Shang-Chi and his mother are from a place other than Earth.
Kamala Khan’s bangle also is a circle. And it does something with time, since it created a time loop tp save her grandmother. She can use it to pull energy from other dimensions but that doesn’t seem to be its intended function. It is something unique to her.
I think, because time is no longer a straight line, when Scott shoved Kang into the multiversal engine with Pym particles, it made the rings oddly sized. Like person’s wrist sized. Wenwu discovered the rings and used them as weapons he can control with his mind (Kang controls his ship with his mind). But when someone from another reality used them, it set off a beacon, probably to this Kang.
What the beacon probably doesn’t say is that there is yet another ring, Kamala’s bangle, that is necessary for the multiversal engine core to work. And the bangle seems to be transporting people—Kamala, Monica and Carol—places without Kamala meaning it to. Who is controlling them?
Where the Conqueror Kang is right now is a question. If the rings survived then surely he did too.
ETA: And, of course, we know Destin Daniel Cretton who directed Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings is announced as the director of Avengers: Kang Dynasty so it's not a leap to assume Shang Chi is a crucial piece of it.
Although I am unclear if the Kang Dynasty movie is about the Council of Kangs attacking or Kang the Conqueror attacking. I feel like both are coming. "Kang Dynasty" sounds like the council. But what if the Conqueror arrives at the end at beats them? Like the Avengers have already done a lot of his work for him but beating other Kangs?
It's be neat if that Avengers movie were in SF, with the Ant-Fam and Shang Chi. The bus fight in Shang Chi was cool because you felt the stakes of it. I haven't felt like the Avengers have been rooted in a real place since the first Avengers. (Although I guess there was that field in Wakanda lol). But Marvel is supposed to be in real places unlike DC.
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