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seasononesam · 8 months

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autistic dean winchester

Generally, they were good about cleaning out the room. There was that one time in Key West when Dean had left the tin of salt next to the bed, and had insisted on turning the car around on Route 1 and heading back to retrieve it. Sam had asked why they couldn't just go to a supermarket and get another one-it was a pretty common household item, after all-but Dean had insisted that it was the principle of the thing. Which had been fine right up until the clerk asked why the two brothers had a big tin of salt in their hotel room, and Dean had gotten that wide-eyed look he got when somebody went off the script. With Sam watching and not even bothering to hide his grin, Dean had stammered for about half an hour before coming up with something about lactose intolerance. - Supernatural novel (Nevermore, by Keith R.A. DeCandido)

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gh0sted-exe · 1 month

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they are gay. they are trans. they are autistic.

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m1zumono · 1 year

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dean winchester and autism because this man is autistic and i will not accept otherwise:

his reaction to sam giving him the giant slinky at the end of 7x14 'plucky pennywhistle's magical menagerie'

actually physically stimming when he enters the bunker with sam in 15x14 'last holiday' and sees the christmas decorations

the boxing episode, 11x15 'beyond the mat', where dean spends the entire episode fanboying and (for lack of a better word) plays in the boxing ring

wearing the same thing (flannel, jeans, in earlier seasons the leather jacket) almost all of the time while not in disguise to work cases

eating the same thing (cheeseburger with extra onions or pie) at almost everywhere they go, as often as he can (about dean winchester and food, i could talk about that for hours he has so many issues with it and it's all john winchester's fault)

his ability to recite movies line for line, and his tendency to communicate almost entirely through references and movie quotes, and expecting people to understand what he means

about references, he makes jokes and references when it's not appropriate, he doesn't understand that something isn't appropriate in a situation where it isn't specifically pointed out to him, and he generally has a pretty messed up sense of empathy and inability to 'read the room'

‘you’re always calling me a geek, but you know every word to every led zeppelin song, backwards and forwards. you can discuss in detail every major rock drummer between ’67 and ’84… and you watch ‘jeopardy!’ every night.’ - directly quoted from sam winchester in 14x20 'moriah'

in 13x06 'tombstone' when they go into the motel and dean talks about the cowboys, identifying all of them and going into quite a bit of detail about a few of them, even though nobody asked him about it and he is absolutely infodumping. 'he really likes cowboys.' 'yes. yes, he does.'

his knowledge of cars, particularly baby, and how he takes her for a ride when he's sad because of the comfort she provides him. also about baby and comfort, the way he offers to let people drive baby when he realises that they're sad, thinking it'll make them feel better as she makes him happy and he doesn't understand how else to help

in 1x03 'dead in the water' he talks to lucas about how he didn't speak as a kid, he plays with the toy soldiers and it doesn't come across as playing with them to make lucas trust him, it actually comes across as him finding genuine enjoyment in it

in 1x15 'the benders' when he's talking to the kid who mentions godzilla, dean brightens immediately and goes off topic talking about his favourite godzilla film, and has to be reminded that he's working a case by sam

the entirety of 14x04 'mint condition', how dean gets to express his interests and be himself and how a lot of people have mentioned that he seems to be genuinely himself in that episode instead of the act he puts on

larping with charlie, no explanation needed

he shuts down when things go badly, often blasting music and ignoring everything and everyone around him

he always picks scissors when playing rock, paper, scissors, and it's actually something that comes up multiple times within the show - in 2x17 'heart', sam says, 'dean, always with the scissors,' and along the same lines, his excitement both times he actually wins the game

in 1x04 'phantom traveller', dean is terrified because of the plane and sam points out that he's humming metallica. he replies that it calms him down, and that just seems very autistic

#spn #supernatural #dean winchester #autism #autistic dean winchester #actually autistic #he's autistic because i'm autistic and i relate to everything here way too much for him to not be #i actually don't care if half of these things aren't specific to autism #i relate to them and i'm autistic and i think those two things are linked so they are now #heavy emphasis on the routines with the clothes and food #also heavy HEAVY emphasis on the few times we get to see him be a nerd #mostly the scene where sam calls him out on it because this man is a nerd and i just want that to be known #to be fair the entirety of tfw 2.0 is autistic #sam dean jack and cas #the four flavours of autism #and about castiel and autism because i'm not making a separate post just for this #i always see it get played off as 'he's an angel he literally isn't human he's not autistic he's just not human'#one misha says you're wrong and that he's autistic #and two none of the angels are like that? like yeah they don't tend to get sarcasm but the level of that is almost exclusive to castiel and #he's weird even by angel standards #the gay angel is autistic #they're also all trans but that's a different conversation #this is way too many tags i'm clicking post goodbye #meta

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ricky-tiki-tah · 11 months

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Anyone else notice that especially in the earlier seasons(1-3 specifically for this post), Sam is usually the one talking to the witnesses/authority figures. Doesn’t matter if Dean started the conversation/interrogation, Sam near always finishes them.

Not only that, but officers and others tend to direct their questions more to Sam than Dean. The question is why? In the early seasons like 1-3, Dean may be shorter, but Sam is still noticeably younger than his brother. Is there something about Sam that people trust him to be more mature or what?

On the opposite note, you will rarely see Sam talking to any kid, his area lying more with the teens and young adults. Dean is always talking to the kids, he values their opinions and wants them to feel safe no matter what. This is probably from raising Sam, but it’s also very him. (One example is Lucas in 1x03 Dead in the Water, another is Michael in 1x18 Something Wicked, and again with Ben in 3x02 The Kids Are All Right)

Now, I’m very much onboard with the “both Winchester brothers are autistic” and “ADHDean”, but my question is still, why would the authorities and older suspects talk to Sam instead of Dean? Is it because Sam is so good at masking? Is it because Dean is starting to let his childish side out more now that John isn’t there? Maybe it’s because due to Dean having been selectively mute, Sam had to speak for the both of them growing up and the habit stuck? Could it be because even though both boys are good looking, Sam is more traditionally handsome while Dean is a pretty face? Is there really an answer?

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babyblue-mind · 4 months

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team free will? more like. more like team autism. am i right

#no one in that show is safe from my autism beam #blue posts #spn #supernatural #autismnatural #……#text #autistic sam winchester #autistic dean winchester #autistic castiel #autistic jack kline #i have a note on my phone of castiel autism proof should i post it #i will

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justanangryduck · 5 months

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Stimming stimming stimming

Dean is loud

Playing with his jewellery, listening to loud music, vocal stimms (humming, clicking his tounge, whistling etc), tapping his hands and his fingers and his knuckles on stuff all the time, rocking on his chair

Sam

Probably plays with his hair a lot, not consciously just tucking it behind his ears and ruffling it all the time and stuff like that. Definitely was one of those kids who would spin around and around in one spot for ages and make themselves dizzy to feel the inertia. PACING PACING PACING. Biting his lip and tounge and the inside of his cheek, rubbing his hands up and down his forearms or over his thighs to feel the fabric there.

Let those old men stim

#all those men are neurodivergent #dean winchester #sam winchester #spn #supernatural #autistic dean winchester #autistic sam winchester #adhd dean winchester

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autistic-dean-winchester · 4 days

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Dean winchester is autistic

Sam winchester is autistic

Their autism 100% conflicts with each other

#supernatural #dean winchester #spn #destiel #castiel #sam winchester #autistic dean winchester #dean winchester is autistic because i said so #jensen ackles #personal

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charliescamilla · 3 months

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happy 45th birthday Dean Winchester my sweetheart i love you dearly 🤎 i made this collage in his honour, looks cool as a wallpaper if anyone wants to use it

#me #supernatural #dean winchester #superwholock #actually autistic #happy birthday dean winchester #autistic dean winchester #sam winchester #castiel #dean x castiel #sam and dean #spn #destiel #jensen ackles #dean winchester edit

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200yearoldautisticman · 3 months

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there’s not enough pothead!dean fics out there and for why? i’m literally him and i’m all of my friends stoner father and like, yeah he might not smoke but that man would fuckin love edibles. he fights monster for a living. he gets fucked by an angel. you’re telling me that him, and fucking sam, too, have stigmas about drugs? sam did acid in college, like what. you think sam having demon blood being dripped in his mouth as a baby is his canon event? no, every version of him did shrooms at stanford. he literally was addicted to demon blood bc it gave him super powers and made him see things? deans an alcoholic bc its more convenient and easier to find (in the early 2000s) but if spn was on hbo and not right-wing christian ass-licker (TW), cw, he wouldve been a massive stoner and i live by that. (also the fact that dean probably hates that he’s like his father in being an alcoholic and would smoke pot as a final act of rebellion against j*hn that he wasnt able to do while his dad was alive) adding to if we had hbospn: dean can find weed (and adjacent substances) in any state they’re in.

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cowboy-deamons-bf · 9 months

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Neurodivergency

They’re all autistic you’re honour 🫡

Dean and Jack are Audhd

#dean winchester #supernatural #supernatural tv show #castiel novak #sam winchester #jack kline #autistic dean winchester #adhd dean winchester #neurodivergent #autism #adhd

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atw2006 · 4 months

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Dean Winchester autistic theory

I went through DSM with Dean, because of course I did.

Reasons why I think Dean is autistic based on DSM:

I. Social Communication

A. Social reciprocity

1.abnormal social approach

*Dean struggles to get information from others without Sam's help

*he is sucessful at picking up woman, but seams to use a series of scripts and well practiced pick up lines to do so

*does not have friends in early seasons

2. no back in forth conversation

*Dean does not seam to notice when he's lost people in conversations (which he often does with excessive media references)

*when they give him undeniable signs he's confused them he ends to go with something dismissive "whatever" and moves on

3. reduced sharing interests emotions or affect

*he tends not to remember things people say that don't interest him

*mocks his brother and cas for interests that he doesn't share

B. deficits in non verbal communication

1. poorly integrated verbal and non-verbal communication

*excessive media references

*often practices facial expressions, sometimes in the mirror

2. abnormal eye contact and body language/gestures

*Dean can certainly make eye contact, but he does tend to do better with emotional conversations when he is not making eye contact (often while driving or while sitting on the car, but also when Charlie is in changing room in (Larp and the Real Girl)

*seams uncomfortable with hugs (particularly with Garth). Hugging his brother makes his brother worry about him

3. lack of facial expressions/nonverbal communication

*Dean does have a lot of expressions, but he tends to go a bit blank faced when dealing with big emotions and/or lies

C. Deficits in developing maintaining and understanding relationships

*Dean notably struggles to have long term romantic relationships. He has one relationship that lasts a bit more than a year (Lisa) and his next longest romantic relationship is a few weeks

*Dean does not have many long term friendships, much of this is because of the death of the people that he would be friends with, but this is not often the case. Dean's life is marked by loneliness, and he seams to only be able to maintain friendships with either family members or when they revolve around the job (hunting).

Dean defines family in a static way. I.e. living with his brother, thinking his brother going to college was abandoning. confused as to why his mother didn't want to stay with her adult sons forever

*He also seams not to have a mental category to put "friends" into. He often uses family language with friends

1. difficulty adjusting behavior to suit various social contexts

*shoving food in his mouth while dressed as a priest at a funeral

*telling Cassie that he loved her after only knowing her for a couple of weeks

*in many ways Dean is better at adjusting to social situations than the average person. When he's in an apocalypse world he relishes the tastes of lizards. Being a PA (Hollywood Boulevard), prison (Flosem Prison Blues) When he's in suburbia he plays that role too. He seams to delight putting on different roles. None of these roles tend to last too long. Sometimes his main role of playboy slacker slips in the same way his minor rolls do

2. difficulties in sharing imaginative play

*He engages in LARP with Charlie and the other LARPers however, when he breaks from it he appears to think that it was ridiculous

*he attempts imaginative play with Lucas's army men

*we never see him engage in imaginative play as a child, the few times that he was not responsible he tended to play video games or movies

3. difficulty making friends

4. absence of interest in peers

*Dean scolds Sam for maintaining contact with his college friends, but this might have been about jealousy

II. Restricted repetitive patterns in behavior, interests, or activities

A. Stereotyped or repetitive motor movement

1. simple motor stereotypes

*Dean stimming when he sees the tree in (Last Holiday)

*auditory stim when Sam tells him that he has a lot of work left to do (Usual Suspects)

*often putting pen in his mouth

*often touches things in the background of scenes

*often drums on the steering wheel or sings along to songs

(some of this might be Jensen's ADHD, and not Dean's autism)

2. lining up toys or lining objects

*does not take toys etc. out of car when rebuilding it from scratch

*organized rooms and bags

3. echolalia

*he often quotes TV and movies

*he often mutters things to himself

*"Son of a Bitch" seams to be a phrase that calms him

*"Bitch" "Jerk" is grounding to him, and he seems to be distressed the times that Sam does not finish the sequence

*hums Metallica when he is on a plane, and he's stressed

4. idiosyncratic phrases

*all of the media references/ quotes

*lore quotes (having memorized his dad's notebook almost)

B. instances of sameness, inflexible adherence to routines, or ritualized patterns of verbal or nonverbal behavior

1. extreme distress at small changes

*Dean's reaction to not getting pie

*Dean's reaction to any change with his car

*listens to the same music all the time, introducing new music (Taylor Swift) seams to challenge his identify "I listen to the same five records over and over" Yellow Fever

2. difficulties with transitions

*struggles when life changes occur

3. rigid thinking patterns.

*Dean maintains his black and white thinking (monsters bad, humans good) in the face of evidence to the contrary

*Dean's options about his father take years after his dad's death to change

4. greeting rituals

5. need to take the same route

6. eat the same food

*burgers and pie

C. highly restricted fixed interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus

1. strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects

*Baby

*his pretty little pearl handled gun

*grenade launcher

2. excessively circumscribed or perseverance interests

*Dean's special interests include but are not limited to:

*Dr. Sexy (Changing Chanel)

*cowboys (Tombstone)

*wrestling

*Hell Hazers (Mint Condition)

D. hyper or hyproreactivity to sensory input or unusual interest in sensory aspects of the environment

1. apparent indifference to pain/temperature

*the boy thinks sleep is optional

*he actually appears to have less of a pain tolerance that other hunters (several times he is mocked for other hunters for making noises as bullets are removed), we never see him give himself stitches like Sam and Charlie do

*he does sleep in jeans, which is ignoring discomfort I certainly couldn't

2. adverse response to specific sounds or textures

*his reaction to getting into a suit the first time

*likes to wear the same clothes all the time

*he enjoys good water pressure and soft robes

3. excessive smelling or touching of objects

*he tends to touch a lot of things in the background of scenes

4. visual fascination with lights or movement

*liking his music, and liking it loud

E.Informal evidence

1. Friends with people much older or younger them him

*Dean bonding with kids

*Dean befriending Mildred (Into the Mystic)

2. struggles with table manners

*he shoves food into his mouth

*talks with his mouth full

3. schooling

*Dean is very intelligent (built his own EMF meter, can remember a lot of obscure lore, read Vonnegut)

*he did not graduate high school, although he was still in school what would have been September of his senior year assuming he didn't repeat any grades (After school special). This could have been from moving frequently, but there seams to be other hints that Dean struggled in school

4. Good at Poker and hustling pool

*is it counting cards? is it faking facial expressions due to masking? is it reading microaggressions?

5. Him being a germaphobe

*hates witches because them "spewing bodily fluids" is unsanitary (Malleus Maleficarum)

*several times he dramatically wiped his hands

6. Times that Dean went non-verbal

*after his mom died (Dead in the Water)

*after Cas confessed to him (Despair)

#autistic dean winchester #deanstudies #spn

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asphyxiatedredherring · 6 months

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