you grooming people into thinking abuse is ok is worse than someone saying something mean to you online.

my take on the fiction vs reality debate when it comes to being sexually attracted to young characters, presented with poorly edited pictures. eat my ass out in the replies but before you do, just know that having trauma doesn’t excuse any weird behavior.

Am I the only one creeped out by the acceptance in the Pokémon fandom to crush on the literal child characters? I remember seeing a video and suddenly the guy mentions his video game crushes, and he mentions Misty and says he still crushes on her and apologises for crushing on someone slightly older, but not for Misty 😐😧🤢

No, you are not the only one anon. Many Pokémon fans (and fans of many other series where this happens) find this creepy.

I remember I was following a Youtube channel until this person posted a 'bingo' where, depending on your birthday month, you got a "waifu". But, among those "waifus" he put Misty and Himawari (Naruto's daughter). But aren't both characters canonically 10 years old?? Why is this 30+ year old man doing this?

It should be noted that the other characters he added were adult women (like Mai from Yugioh). Why is someone mixing children and adults as if both options were fine as a couple? 🤨 Perhaps the worst part was reading some comments from adult men saying 'I got Himawari, I love l_o-l-is'. Instant unfollow from my part.

I have never hated same loli face syndrome more than I have with every new female character that comes out in FE: Engage.

Found under a discussion of the ages of various characters using Genshin Impact’s loli model, specifically regarding one character implied to be an adult who’s either very short or has dwarfism (Dori, for those familiar with the game). Needless to say the comments underneath this were a shitshow.

At this point I don't even really care if someone thinks loli/shotacon is gross, but I really do care when someone calls it CP or CSEM, especially in a context where it's initially unclear whether they're referring to actual, real CSEM of a child who was inherently abused and exploited or...an anime character. Like, even if you think it's gross, surely there's a big difference between these things, right? Right??

I feel like a conversation really needs to be had about proship/profiction and antishippers. Like with many things on the internet some people are just unable to see the nuance in anything and it’s more than a little ridiculous.

Namely, while there are certain fanfics that I think certainly *do* effect reality, I think it’s all been taken a bit far? Death Note is a good example. I see people getting mad about the fact that Light and L are shipped together due to the age gap, and I even see it with Misa and Rem (even though for Rem thats canon..?). This is just so clearly a case that pedophilia isn’t being promoted that it's insane a lot of “antis” have made it problematic.

That being said, I also came across a fic titled “Shota One-Shots” (or something very similar) that was just the author fantasizing about r*ping little boys. While I don’t think ao3 should take this down due to it's mission statement.. oh man. Anyone who writes or reads this shit is a dangerous human being. The fact that so many “proshippers” are okay with this behavior (or deny it’s existence) is disturbing. For this reason I actively avoid anyone that proudly uses this label.. at best, they deny these things happen. At worst, they defend them.

BuT wHaT aBoUt InCeSt??? Percy Jackson is a prime example of widely accepted incest in fiction. Just like with age gaps and minor/adult ships context matters.

It also goes without saying that you should tag content properly. I have zero respect for people that don’t provide content warnings/tag for things like incest, no matter the context.

I’m sick of the idea that everything has to be in extremes man. Use your critical thinking skills. Please.

I just wanted to rant about Orihime

I absolutely HATE the way she was treated in Hueco Mundo, especially for such a sweet and caring girl like her. She was kidnapped against her will, with Ulquiorra making the sick decision to threaten her with the lives of the people she loves, called a traitor for literally being blackmailed, she was physically abused by Loly and Menoly so badly TWICE, with loly punching her in the face, leaving her face disfigured (And there was even BLOOD coming out of her mouth!), for no reason, yet she still healed her abusers out of kindness and Loly and Menoly threatened to tear out her eye and fingernails OVER SOMEONE ORIHIME DIDN'T EVEN LIKE, she was completely psychologically broken by Ulquiorra when he KILLED the man she LOVED just to torture her more, which she even blamed HERSELF for, threatened to rip open her skull and chest and threatened to force feed her and give her intravenous therapy, Nnoitra suggested that he could... you know... and was such a complete vile and disgusting creep to her, calling her his "pet", (Ulquiorra was very hypocritical regarding this, because he called out Nnoitra, yet he himself still was very willing to psychologically torture Orihime) Grimmjow strangled her twice, dragged her around in chains, manhandled her and only wanted Orihime to heal Ichigo so he could hurt him again, and called her names that I don't want to mention. It physically pains me to see someone as kind and gentle as her suffer so much... Aizen and the Arrancars are complete sadistic monsters and they make me sick that they'd do this to poor Orihime. And Aizen didn't even want her powers at all, it was just to distract the strongest fighters while he took over Karakura, so all the trauma she went through was all for NOTHING.

Yet people hate her because of stupid shipping wars. I definitely don't ship UlquiHime (which people ship just to get her out of the way of IchiRuki) because he was manipulative and psychologically tormented her to past breaking point. They're shipping her with her LITERAL MENTAL ABUSER whom she has never even met or even had a single thought about until the fight with Yammy and when he kidnapped her. (And even after that, the only memory she had of Ulquiorra after the Hueco Mundo Arc was when he murdered Ichigo) A gentle girl like her deserves someone who doesn't abuse and torment her so much all the time. People say that she cared more about Ulquiorra than she did Ichigo, but that is definitely not the case, hence all the, "Kurosaki-kuns". (Y'all really want her to stay in HM forever?! With those awful Arrancar monsters and Aizen?!)

People also think that Orihime is far too obsessed with Ichigo, yet with IchiRuki, Ichigo CANNOT FUNCTION without his true love Rukia? He doesn't care about protecting people who aren't Rukia? And all these Yanderes, like Loly, Jaguara (Wolf's Rain), Shiro (Deadman Wonderland) and ESPECIALLY Yuno Gasai (Mirai Nikki) get away with literally harming or MURDERING anyone who even so much as looks at their love interest, or even their love interest themselves because it's 'cute?' They're the ones who are too obsessed if they're going to resort to such extreme lengths for their love interest, or out of jealousy towards their love interest. They're literally saying that a normal, sweet, kind girl is WORSE than these psychos. Orihime was just experiencing a normal crush, which developed into GENUINE LOVE for Ichigo, while these yanderes are complete psychos regarding their love interests, which Orihime is not. Excuse me, Yanderes, resorting to killing for love is not cute in the slightest. Orihime would never murder anyone over Ichigo. She even felt bad for being jealous of Rukia because Orihime LOVES Rukia as a friend and thinks she's amazing. Orihime was even happy for Rukia when she got married to Renji, and cried tears of joy for her (And no, it's not because Orihime finally could have Ichigo all to herself). Not to mention her love for Ichigo was what broke her out of Tsukishima's brainwashing.

And she's even been VILLAINISED too, just because she's in the way of IchiRuki (Which is NOT OK because of the huge age gap, and that Ichigo would have to die in order to be with Rukia, which would be devastating for Orihime because she wants to keep him alive and safe). But that doesn't mean I don't love Rukia, nor do I think that she's in the way of IchiHime. I definitely support RenRuki, which makes way more sense than IchiRuki. Side note, I also don't understand all the bashing that Renji gets, he's still a nice guy. Rukia was very supportive of Orihime and understood her captivity situation, and she's so funny 😄 People have said that Orihime healed more enemies than friends, but Orihime is many things, and a villain is NOT one of them. She healed Loly and Menoly because she just can't stand people getting hurt, no matter who they are, and she only healed Grimmjow's arm because Aizen told her to. And the haters ignore that she always heals her friends ALL THE TIME. That does not mean Orihime is a villain. I mean, Aughra (The Dark Crystal) paid her respects to SkekMal the Hunter, a violent, malevolent beast, even calling him the most 'beautiful' of the Skeksis, but does that make her a villain? No way. She still sacrificed her life/essence in place of Brea, Seladon and Maudra Fara. Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star) made a grave for his friend Shin, who literally tortured Ken by scarring his body and tormented and enslaved innocent people to build an entire city for Yuria, Ken's fiancee, who Shin had kidnapped. Does that make Ken a villain? No way. People claim Orihime is a villain, yet they let the ACTUAL villains get away with what they did to her just because they're attractive. Yes, Orihime healed her enemies, but she also NEVER ATTACKED HER FRIENDS.

Also, Orihime has been called selfish and manipulative, among other things. But here's the thing: She's NOT. She's far from all that. The reason she slapped Ulquiorra, which she had every right to do, was because he taunted her that Chad was supposedly dead, and he was dissing her friends by saying they were stupid and reckless to charge straight into Hueco Mundo. Ulq KNOWS that Orihime cares for her friends, so he deliberately used her love for her friends to kidnap her, manipulate her and completely psychologically break her. Orihime even literally begged to be let out of her cell to go and help Rukia, one of her BEST FRIENDS. When she was restrained by Nnoitra, she didn't care that she was being held back in a really creepy manner by one of the most vile Arrancars in existence. She really cared about Ichigo's and Nel's safety. She even shielded Uryu from Ulquiorra while completely breaking down, tried to help Yachiru, and even tried to heal Zaraki after the Nnoitra fight before getting rekidnapped. Victim blaming or what? (And also someone said that just because Orihime doesn't get a job at a clinic helping people means she FAKING her kindness? It's all an act? Like WHAT?! She can only get a job at a clinic because if not it means her kindness is an act?! She can still have other jobs AND still heal people all the while!!!! I'm not saying that helping people is wrong or bad, because it's not. I'm saying that just because she doesn't work at a clinic doesn't mean she doesn't like helping people!!!)

And there's also the whole Damsel in distress thing. That wasn't Orihime's fault. Aizen and Ulquiorra forced her into that position by threatening the lives of her friends. What else could she do? Not to mention her escorts were horribly killed right in front of her just to prove Ulquiorra's point. Even then, Orihime told THEM to run, because she valued their lives more than her own. Orihime didn't plan her own kidnapping, abuse and trauma, Aizen did. He was the one basically making her submit due to his spiritual pressure. If someone more mentally hardened was kidnapped, and was the type of person to kill their captors and escape from captivity instantly, they get so much praise, but if it's a sweet, pacifistic person like Orihime, who doesn't like to even WOUND people, and only had to comply with their captors because the people they love would have been killed, and having been traumatised to the point of breaking down in tears, they get the blame just for, "being a Damsel/Dude in distress"... like WHAT?!

And then there was her screaming to Ichigo for help. She was completely psychologically broken and traumatised by seeing the man she loved practically dead, so much so, that she couldn't do anything but cry because she loved Ichigo so much, and didn't want him to get hurt. She's left in pain and horror and guilt, yet it's ULQUIORRA who is really to blame here, not her. Captivity and abuse, especially someone as gentle as her, does that to you. He was the one who killed Ichigo and MOCKED her love for him while doing that just to break her even more, and Ulquiorra left behind his Reiatsu on Ichigo, which was too strong for Orihime to possibly reverse. Her LITERAL MENTAL BREAKDOWN was what awakened Vasto Lorde Ichigo. She didn't even blame Ichigo for dying and not protecting her, Uryu for not protecting Ichigo or Ulquiorra for killing him and torturing her - she blamed HERSELF. (I don't blame Ichigo and Uryu, they were literally killed and injured because of that stupid batboy).

Then there's her pacifistic nature and inability to fight. Again, she hates seeing people, friend or foe, being injured. Just because Orihime only heals and shields does not make her weak or useless at all. People are seeing her overkindness as weakness, uselessness and/or even villainy, and want her to have a more aggressive personality. Pacifism is seen as villainy, but aggression isn't? She's even being compared to Sakura. Orihime is WAY nicer than Sakura could ever be. (I'm sorry to those who like Sakura, I understand why you do). Orihime would never stoop so low as to beat up her friends or even say a single mean word to them over the smallest things like Sakura does. (Beating up your friends isn't funny at all, it's just mean).

She mostly gets a bad rep for yelling, "Kurosaki-kun!", but guess what? It's because she CARES about Ichigo, because he's being injured and killed right in front of her. If she didn't care about him, she wouldn't be saying his name worriedly.

And finally, there's her being scared of Ichigo's Hollow Mask. It literally brought back traumatising memories of a Hollowfied Sora/Acidwire, and she was scared FOR Ichigo, not OF Ichigo. She didn't want him to lose himself to his Hollow side like Sora did. That doesn't mean I hate Ichigo for scaring her, I know he was trying to protect her, which he has been doing the whole time. We love you, Kurosaki-kun 💖 (And people said that Ichigo didn't heed Loly's threat to tear out Orihime's eye and Ulquiorra "protected" her by stopping Ichigo, but... Ulquiorra didn't heed Loly's threat either! He told Loly (Who was HOLDING ORIHIME) he didn't stop Ichigo to save Loly, which extends to Orihime as well!)

I'm sorry for this long rant, but I just feel upset with the way Orihime is treated in- and out-of-universe. She's just so sweet. I'm just trying to think about all of this in a logical and pathological way.

TL;DR: I'm upset that Orihime gets so much hate because she has suffered so much and is a sweet girl.

Heres the reason why loli porn shouldnt be defended.

bully proshippers for fun :3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i blocked this anon and i will continue to block and not respond to anyone coming for my religion. i don’t play w that at all. so this is the ONLY time i will say this:

not all proshippers are Igbt but anyway

you saying i'm homophobic and want to censor all lgbt media just because i'm against proshipping and also happen to be a Christian is nuts. anti proship + Christianity ≠ wanting to censors lgbt media. i'm not against lgbt media in any way. i consume lgbt media as well and have gay ships. i’m against people defending WEIRD STUFF in a given media, and if it happens to be gay then fine.

i also don’t believe we should criminalize gay marriage because God gave us free will so we deserve to keep that. you don't know my relationship with God or traditional values just because I’m Christian. you don’t know a lot of my views.

i also never said a single thing about porn addiction so hop off. i get that you’re saying i’m “helping” the people who have said these things but i don’t speak for anybody but myself and nobody else can speak for me whether they’re Christian or not. i’m not on the side of whoever you’re talking about and they’re not on mine. i’m on God’s side and that’s it.

don’t ever send anything like this again. nobody. i am considering turning off the option to go anonymous because it makes all these creepy stalkers come out of nowhere since they’re too cowardly to go off anon. it’s pathetic and you should be ashamed of yourselves. don’t ever insult my religion nor anybody else’s. it’s my lifestyle and i take it seriously. and i know damn well nobody would’ve done that if i said i was islam (which has more similarities to Christianity than yall think) or literally anything but Christian because then all of a sudden it’s discrimination. but no Christians are just a free-for-all every day. disgusting.

one of the most common practices us Christians are taught is to love thy neighbor. this applies to every single person ever, regardless of any sins they’ve committed, and because we are all sinners anyway. not every Christian is some redneck homophobe but yall don’t know us because you’d rather not get to know us at all or our religious texts before spouting this ignorant bullshit. i’m sorry to be rude because i try not to be mean to my enemies but screw you and leave me alone. you’re an awful person and need to heal from whatever prejudices you have. seriously so gross.

just another day of being Christian…

Antis saying that therapists need their license revoked if they recommend fiction cope to specific clients with certain trauma or disorders has the exact same energy as anti vaxxers saying doctors should have their license revoked for giving vaccines.

I said what I said.🤷

Also antis fail to remember that a therapist's job is not to make people normal, it's to make them happy and safe from themselves. Lowkey ablest to tell disabled and disturbed people not to take their LICENCED PERSONAL PROFESSIONAL'S advice just because you personally do not understand it.

yikes... turns out if you don't hurt real people then you are an abuser now

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I actually hate PRATs and radqueers making transyandere and the sort because the dere types are founded in misogyny, ableism, fetishization, and more.

Actually a huge reason we make dere genders is because those have real life consequences and has hurt real life people due to weaboos and anime fans then passing those dere types on real life people. Often these people being trans, mentally ill, or just feminine people.

We have witnessed this with extreme cases having people call us AN IRL LOLI! This is why we make dere genders, so those effected can reclaim them from such connotations. When radqueers make shit like transyandere and stuff they instead contribute to the already huge bias of ableism and misogyny. We know many people find it controversial and weird for us to do so, but again people forget how bad this haa gotten on a global scale and effects EVERYONE! Trans people, the mentally ill, women, and overall feminine dressing individuals aren't your kinks and shit! We are all people and taking it back isn't a "badge of honor", it is us trying to redefine it due to misogynists and ableists using it on real people that just simply exist. The trope (for us) isn't connected to the reclaiming at all, it is reclaiming to make people realize how dehumanizing they are being by instead defining our experiences of different symptoms instead of it being "OMG a yandere uwu".

It's why we also have irl yandere because that isn't reclaiming that's just giving into the weaboo and anime fan fantasy. Sorry for the rant, we saw the other ask and just- it also bothers us for different reasons we have here. We hate anime due to all of this too, we haven't watch an anime or read a manga for over 3 years now because of the disgusting ableist fanbase.

sorry for the late reply, i agree, i personally dont like it either outside of reclaiming

im gonna leave this reply short hope u dont mind :]