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I don’t know why this is something we apparently need to re-explain to parts of the CR fandom every few years, but if I see one more post that implies that the way Samuel Oscar Riegel is approaching his character’s faith journey is “culturally Christian” I’m gonna McFucking lose it.
#this fandom’s inability to retain the very obvious fact that Sam is Jewish is my villain origin story#also people throw around that phrase like it means something or they know what they’re talking about#when mostly they’re just mad at how THEY can’t seem to stop interpreting everything through certain evangelical Protestant tropes#and moral standards#I don’t have time for a whole rant atm but I’m truly at my wits end#cr discourse
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ARC TROOPER ECHO | The right thing to do
“No matter what, we are united. Rule one: We fight together.”
Bonus:
#the bad batch spoilers#the bad batch#arc trooper echo#tbb echo#swgifs#swedit#star wars#gifset#everyone is probably sick of me being salty about tbb's messaging so all i will say is#thank god echo has stayed true to the moral standard i expect#every one of these moments has meant so so much to me#domino twins stay heroing#also is there anything more painful in the world than the way rex looks at echo in that scene jesus christ#color correcting echo kicked my ass#corporal echo#my gifs
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also remember that no form of resistance is ever acceptable to the colonizer. and that includes non-violent resistance (the great march of return) + non-violence is only successful against a force that has a conscience. but if your opponent had a conscience, he would not be oppressing you in the first place.
#its a bit weird how people who have been oppressed for decades are held to this moral standard that not even their oppressor is held to tbh#also yeah agreed w the person here like if i was a part of such a group being oppressed i would not just sit and take it#there's only so much pain and loss you can take#israelis want to cause so much destruction that it debilitates the palestinians but it ends up fuelling their desire to fight back even mor#i was just reading up on how initially the people who made up hamas focused on social services#and only became interested in developing a militant wing after israel's brutal occupation of south lebanon#and the plo's retreat#even before oct 7#hamas fighting back was never acceptable to Israel#even if they were only using rockets made of scrap metal. no form of resistance can ever be acceptable to the occupier.#free palestine#palestine#gaza#israel#israeli war crimes#death to israel#long live palestine#glory to the martyrs#from the river to the sea palestine will be free#long live the resistance
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It is so funny to me when Tarvek calls the Wulfenbach Empire an "illegitimate government based on brute force" like. Sweetie. You're part of a monarchy. How do you think your government was established, your ancestors asked the others really nicely to let them be in charge forever?
"Turning it over to my debauched son" so you're saying you think inherited leadership is a bad idea? You think someone unfit to run a government being given the position solely because they're the offspring of the current ruler is a bad idea? Is this your opinion, Prince Tarvek?
Tarvek. Babydoll. I am holding your face in my hands and gently explaining to you that the only difference between the establishment of Klaus' government and yours is a few hundred years.
#tarvek sturmvoraus#girl genius#audrey talks#it's a perfect depiction of ingrained biases#tarvek is so clever and so politically astute and yet touts this double standard like hes got some moral superiority#no realization of the cognitive dissonance AT ALL#hands down one of the stupidest things he's ever said#i want to shake him
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a way for the skaven running gag to continue via the Ratkin
Kitten: Okay this has been bothering me for a while. If there's things like werewolves and werecats-
Big D: Hold on, I told you about werewolves. How do you know about werecats?
Kitten: Long story, lots of family drama, I'd prefer not to get into it right now. But my point is are there other shapeshifters?
Big D: You BET THERE ARE. No werechihuahuas, though. That's a joke. And it's NOT FUCKING FUNNY, DEAR GOD I AM SO FED UP WITH THE TOMES OF ARCANE LORE FILLED UP WITH JOKE POSTS ABOUT THEM and okay, okay. Off track. Anyway, there are indeed many different types of shapeshifters.
Boy, wandering from another room: There's wererats and stuff
Big D: Quite so! They're hardly friendly to humans, for you see, they're quite fed up with human corruption being responsible for HEY WHOA WAIT WAIT. Boy! How do YOU know about wererats!?
Boy: They talks to me all the time.
Kitten: They do?
Boy: Dunno why. They just wander up and complain about humans being a pestilence upon the world. One of them wants to show me a giant mouse wheel it wants to make into a big bike thingy, though.
#hunter the parenting#WoD#world of darkness#ratkin#werewolf the apocalypse#given how the Ratkin are completely bonkers but in a somewhat morally gray way#and functionally fighting for the survival of the world#vs the skaven being comically evil even by Imperium standards#they also nicely have the 'TTS but everything just slightly askew' vibe that#HtP seems to be taking to character adjustments#queued
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You can just say it's a mistake. It's so much worse to try and excuse it
#wof#wings of fire#glory wof#deathbringer wof#wof memes#tw proship#tw age gap#tw pedophila mention#sp-rambles#The “dragons have different moral standards than humans” excuse bothers me the most#My brother in christ these animals are basically humans with scales and wings#They abide by the same social standards we do#INCLUDING THAT MURDER AND WAR BAD#Why would large age gaps with a child and an adult be any different??
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❗Epilogue spoiler
(Wyll broke his pact wiht Mizora and reminds to be the Blade)
Nightwarden Minthara: I am sure that being slain by a heroic blade is of great comfort to your victims.
1>Player(Wyll): They are not victims, they are monsters.
Nightwarden Minthara: I have been both victim and monster. Whichever you saw me as, if your turned your blade on me, there are still those who would grieve my passing. And I would bleed like any other.
2>Player(Wyll): I bring justice, not comfort.
Nightwarden Minthara: I was taught that any man who spoke out of line, or above his lowly station, should be punished. I called that justice. I do not think there is such a thing as justice anymore, and I do not find my comfort at either end of a blade.
3>Player(Wyll): I'm a protector, not a killer.
Nightwarden Minthara: In this world, the two roles go hand in hand more often than not. Call yourself a slayer of monsters and be proud, for that is what you are.
#bg3#baldur's gate 3#minthara#wyll ravengard#wyll seems to be the least miserable person in the party#especially when most of us love devil mommy#but he is facing a crisis of faith#not about gods but about his own moral standards#love his conversation with minthara#the bad guy and the good guy are debating what justice is
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i think what Jason wants (from Bruce at least) is to be loved transcendentally. he wants to be loved with earth shattering intensity, the kind that'll raze the world to the ground when lost and inspire greatness when present. Jason wants to mean something and to matter more than anything except for (maybe) another (worthy) human. Jason wants to be shown love in the way that he experiences love. but that kind of exclusive focus is impossible when your dad is Batman.
#Jason is the pathos of the batfam#Dick is also more pathos than logos but like he also didn't die so#and yes i'm mangling i'm doing it on purpose#Jay would die in a heartbeat for his family#and probably do any number of awful things#and what he wants is reciprocity#I see his as very much the kind to not ask anything of anyone that he isn't willing to do himself#but also expects others to live up to his morals#or standards or however#so he's not exactly fair but not entirely unfair either#idk there's a ton of posts right now on Jason's ideas about love and I also have a ton of thoughts myself#the dude is fucking intense#and speakign from experience#it's fuckign hard when that kind of intensity is one sided#even when you know it's unfair to expect it of the other party#jason todd#batfam
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At this point, gender nonconformity is about what the person says their experience is.
If a woman with a beard or a man with lipstick and a mustache says they're gender nonconforming, then they are! If a woman with short hair or a man with long hair says they aren't, they aren't! And that's not even getting into the awesome nonbinary, abinary, genderqueer, intersex, and general genderfuckery that may both be and not be conforming.
So much of what is even considered gender conforming or gender nonconforming is based on a world of exclusion. When we start defining one's conformity with whether they fit into white cishetero perisex standards or not, we play into the idea that there's only a very narrow window of what is considered worthy of time and thought.
#gender nonconformity#gnc#queer#like. for instance a native man who keeps long hair might be considered GNC by white standards but for him it's absolutely not nonconformit#there's an aspect of white supremacy that silences everything else while saying that other culture's silence is indicative of whiteness...#...being 'correct' or 'moral' or 'neutral'#and as somebody who's trans and last i checked white i have my own thoughts from my own experiences#like how i don't consider myself to really be a GNC man. i'm just. man+#i'm a weird concoction of weird soup that tastes like a man but if it were Wrong#and i just don't see that as not conforming to manhood like it is seperate. i see it as irrevocably linked TO manhood#it is others who have excluded and exiled me from manhood because of *their* understanding of me and how i 'fit in' in cissexism#while i will never ever say i know what it's like to not be white i will say these conversations that PoC have started have been INVALUABLE#i am forever grateful to have been extended the patience and faith to listen in on the experiences of people...#...who are racialized in terms of gender and how they do/don't 'fit in' with often white supremacist views on gender/dynamics#may have made a post like this years back but. eh. arrest me officer i will not back down#i've been more and more 'gnc' as i go into my transition and i don't see it as nonconformity but as an outlet for my masculinity#which is why i'm not insecure about my crafts and creations. because it is coming from a male whether or not it's considered 'manly'#i have little to *no place* in cissexist society so why should i put any stakes into if they ~accept~ me#made this post while jamming out to skyrim's tavern OST (paused my game to write this)#why the HELL does the skyrim tavern music have to go SO HARD. i NEED to slam down BARRELS of mead while listening to this istg#i don't even LIKE honey so i haven't tried mead but. for skyrim i would.
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I do have to wonder how many murders Kabru committed around his party that they are not only desensitized to it but going 'yeah that's our guy', holding down struggling victims, and then helping dispose of the bodies. And not being shaken by any of that at all during or after.
#nix meows#dungeon meshi#spoilers#kabru of utaya#idk there's a reason why I take Kabru plotting to murder Laios if he comes off that he might be 'a threat to humanity'#seriously#especially given Kabru does think its ok to murder people if they don't live up to his moral standards#and thinks he can get away with it#and decided that Laios and Falin getting conned was them working with criminals
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The "ohhhh fuck dolphins, dolphins are evil they kill and rape, ohh otters are evil they rape seal babies, not so cute now are they" people are like the children who would smugly tell anyone who would listen that ring around the rosie is about people dying of the plague. Like ok. Do I need to explain how high intelligence correlates with complex behavior or can you shut the fuck up on your own
#stop trying to cancel dolphins. they can't be 'evil' they haven't developed a moral sense like ours. our morals cant be applied#what do you think you're accomplishing by telling ppl to hate vulnerable species. this take is so stupid it gives me a headache#this goes beyond pet peeve all these people can suck my free willy#what if i started saying 'ohhh they rape and kill bet you feel stupid now' under videos of like. people.#like yeah. some animals have figured out that sex feels good but don't yet have understanding of others' suffering.#they can't be 'good' or 'evil' by human standards. they have a variety of complex behaviors whether they are helpful or harmful to others#animal behavior#dolphins#otters#zoology#sa mention#sa tw#just in case#not soc
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conservatives who think posting a photo of a model-looking conservative woman next to a photo of a normal-looking or overweight or blue-haired liberal woman constitutes a slam-dunk ideological argument: I am Biting you
#I feel like I see this way too often and I am so fed up#what’s that supposed to communicate? morality = your beauty standards???#also for the Christians who do it: you’re additionally communicating that biblical womanhood is supposed to have makeup on#also ad hominem attacks are never never never a good way to debate or relate#anyway :)))#things you see on Twitter#discourse sorry
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Christians will unironically be like: "We have moral standards 😌💅." Yeah, so does literally everyone else you stupid twats, you're not special.
#christians are so damn stupid sometimes istg#ex catholic#ex christian#deconversion#apostate#excatholic#all cultures and religions have a set of moral standards you morons#yes even non Christians have morals oh my fucking god im tired of having this conservation with jesus freaks#non christians are not immoral monsters with no compass to guide them
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I find it super ironic that Cyclonus has this highly romanticized, propagandic view of the Decepticons, because like:
This is him 🔽
And this is also him 🔽
Dude you yourself was a member of the ruling elite of the old order. Even if what you said about the Decepticons were all true, you're a big part of why people needed to be emancipated in the first place.
He was part of Nova Prime's inner cadre during a time when bigotry and oppression was even more predominant. Nova. who's literally the founder of functionism, which flourished and peaked under the so-called Golden Age of his rule. And Galvatron's... Galvatron, I don't even want to talk about him everyone knows what he's like. But Cyclonus was somehow fine with being yes-man to both?
The way he spoke about the Decepticons, it sounded as if he's this super dedicated sjw filled with righteous passion about stuff like liberation and revolution and emancipation and 'the people', when in truth it's shown that he'd never cared about any of those things before that point.
Nova Prime's ideology was literally this:
And Cyclonus didn't have a problem with it during his entire life before the Ark, compared to more decent people like Dai Atlas and Omega Supreme who eventually clashed with their group and got kicked off the Ark b/c they couldn't stand Nova and co.'s lack of a bottom line and misuse of the word freedom.
As a matter of fact Cyclonus still believed in Nova Prime after he became Nemesis - not that he was much of a better person as Nova. Where's his sense of justice against corruption? Nova got turned into a literal demon, surely it's hard to get more corrupted than that. But his only complaint wasn't about what Nova/Nemesis was trying to do, it's about the process being too much of a damn ordeal.
He's super excited over the anticipation of murder and has no scruples whatsoever about killing non-combatants. The same thing happened again at Kimia.
He finally grew enough of a conscience to break off from Galvatron in the end but notice his wording. It's not 'you forced me to hurt people', it's 'you forced me to hurt Cybertron'. He even said Cybertron twice for emphasis.
It's not mind control, he just thinks like that. The guy's obsessed with Cybertron - with what Cybertron once was. The Cybertron he lived in. Nova Prime's Cybertron. The Golden Age. He's shown to repeatedly lament over it in his internal monologues.
It's all about the loss of his 'perfect world.' The infrastructure. the scenery. the Tetrahexian real estate lmao. How about let's feel some sadness for the billions of Cybertronians who once lived on it? When did he ever spare a thought for all the people who died?
The Decepticons worked so hard to destroy this. It's a gilded carcass rotting from the inside. It eats people alive. The rot was already there in his own time. He was complacent in putting it there. But he only had eyes for the beauty and nolstalgia.
In the first panel he lauded the Decepticons for wanting radical change. Well he himself seemed to be dead set against change judging by the way he kept wanting things to go back the way they were 8 million years ago.
Back in the Golden Age he would not have looked twice at a bot like Tailgate. He was part of the people who didn't give a shit about the disappearance of one waste disposal bot. He still wouldn't have given a shit if circumstances hadn't forced them together over and over again.
Looks to me he's enarmored with the grandness of the concepts of liberation and revolution and emancipation for 'the people' in the Decepticons' (theoretical) ideology. The concepts of fighting against corruption and bringing down the old order. Just like how he bought into the concepts of Nova's 'spreading freedom to the galaxy' and the glittering prosperity of the 'Golden Age.' Does he know that the Decepticon ideology is a twisted lie built on terror and massacres and genocide and despotism? Does he know that Nova's idea of spreading freedom and enlightenment is galactical conquest and his beloved Golden Age is built upon a foundation of misery and suffering and systematic subjugation? Of course he knows he's not stupid. He's nose-deep in it, it's virtually impossible not to. But he's able to willfully ignore those ugly truths as well as his role in them by only engaging in shallow romanticism through rose-coloured lens and refusing to delve deeper.
It's either that or imperalist mindset and the endorsement of violence and casual murder resonates hard.
#on one hand Cyclonus would have made the perfect decepticon#he's got the hypocrisy down really well#moral standards align too#but he wouldn't be able to stand them after a while. and they wouldn't be able to stand him#their views about the past are fundamentally different. like class different#let's not forget the fanatic religion. the decepticons hate religion. being religious is enough to get the DJD sicced on you#and taking religion to the extremes is what legitimized functionism in the first place#he's someone who's REALLY good at ignoring thing he doesn't like and brainwashing himself into thinking they don't exist#idw transformers#transformers#mtmte#maccadam#Cyclonus
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"are people not into that?" i ask, after posting my weird niche shit to the internet, despite knowing it to be weird niche shit.
#jsyk sylkius or anything adjacent to it does not “Do Numbers” in any way and i observed this some time ago#i assume that's the “rival ships” element at work but who knows really#that sort of thing is like femslash in that everyone approves of it but nobody actually reads or writes it#but who would have thought sylvie beating loki with a stick would not bring in droves of readers???! shocking twist there!#& i don't consider sifki a rarepair but my rarepair standards are VERY strict like if there's >5 fics a pairing is basically mainstream#chasing popularity would annoy me though & i just don't have the mental spoons to try writing stuff i wouldn't personally read#yeah i *could* put my blorbos to work in a coffee shop but what cost to my own enjoyment levels? AT WHAT COST FANGELA???#you can't please everyone so you may as well just please yourself and if anyone else likes it you've found some fellow freaks so yay#i don't mean please yourself in a wanking sense. though feel free to do that too it probably counts as a cardio workout idk.#BUT ANYWAY#fic related#ps i am v glad there's the “warning: loki” tag because i think/hope it acts as a filter for 'he did nothing wrong in his life ever' types#who are Valid & etc obviously but i write my morally grey characters to be morally grey and the tag might help avoid conflict#though tbh i write almost every character to be morally grey in some way so i can't claim to have left my comfort zone here#(i'm not joking when i say the 1987-89 run of Dr Who shaped my entire future fannish life from a young and apparently v impressionable age)
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To explain The Goblin Problem and not go on a tag rant on someone else's reblog, I will explain it in the nutshell.
The Goblin Problem is when a story establishes a group of creatures to serve as recurrent antagonists (not necessarily all one species; in a lot of rpg games this can broadly apply to "monsters") THAT:
Are never negotiable, or the negotiable parties among them are Token Heroic Orcs- that is to say, they are seen as objectors or 'good' versions who have absolutely no connections to, and hold no objections toward you attacking, the rest of their brethren, who they have forsaken as the price to be paid for being good.
Have obvious unique technology; they may attack you with weapons found nowhere else in the game, demonstrate the ability to speak, have their own obvious language, tame a creature that nobody else tames so that it's thus impossible that they are stealing already-tamed specimens from someone else
Are characterized primarily or exclusively as raiders who attack others, with the justification this means they are inferior creatures parasitically dependent on Good, Civilized Settings, e.g. they cannot possibly be sustainably hunting, gathering, or practicing either nomadic or settled agriculture.
Are often defined as having no choice to be evil or are created by a greater evil to serve as thralls, and yet, will not under any circumstances be regarded as indoctrinated victims, or if that is mentioned, there will nonetheless be an overarching lack of narrative concern as to where or how the survivors should live after the greater evil is taken care of, or if effort should be made to challenge the indoctrination and give them the ability to choose their lives.
What this ultimately creates is that they are unambiguously people, who obviously check all the marks of sapience, who are quite possibly wearing clothes, but the goblin or orc exists as a stopgap. You want your fantasy hero to get into a swordfight but you don't want him to kill another human being. So you invent something that wields a sword but is in some way "not a person", which is senseless. Unless you want the nature of this swordfight to be that a chimpanzee picked up a knife, at which point they are not going to use reliable sword techniques.
#writing ruminations#the goblin problem#way too many fantasy stories take basically racist myths and then go 'well but it's different if this is Literally True'#'and applies to a species I made up that's also ugly by white western able-bodied standards'#and the underpinning motivation is you need a conflict token to move against your protagonists#and you don't want to suggest they're butchering animals- even scary ones- or hurting People#so you invent fake-animal-people whose job is only to be mean and have no apparent role in an ecosystem#and it's. I don't know how to tell you that's bad chief#even in a black-and-white good guys vs. bad guys clean cut narrative you should REALLY not split morality along race or species lines#hell in an extremely straightforward good vs. evil narrative you kinda gotta think about that MORE
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