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benbamboozled · 2 months

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My favorite thing about Steph and Cass’s relationship, and something that’s been kind of lost in canon and fandom, is that originally they were NOT uwu wholesome.

Cass was kind of an asshole who DESPERATELY wanted to protect Steph and would undermine her to do so (sometimes violently), and Steph was DESPERATE to be taken seriously as a vigilante and would sometimes get in over her head to do so.

That being said, they formed a connection with each other anyway, and that’s what makes them so special to me. In an era that was very much into “let’s have the two girls fight,” it was so amazing to see two girls who wanted to do GOOD and FOUGHT to do so coming together and becoming friends.

#stephanie brown #cassandra cain #spoiler #batgirl #batgirl 00 #the best #I love them.#stephcass #comic talk

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dyrdeer · 7 months

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Angel is actually from another comic i wrote a while ago for Dorian's backstory. Ive been thinking about revamping it and actually turning it into a real webcomic - probably because i rly love Angel and Dorian and ive been obsessed with them lately. If a comic w Dorian as the main character is something u wanna see PLS lemme know

#deerposting #comic talk

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rillette · 2 years

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John is 6′1 making Hal 5′0 here. going to go sit quietly for a little bit

#hal jordan #John Stewart #comic talk #i did not edit the sizes go look at the original image #hes PORTABLE AUGHHGGGGGGGGGG #im normal i normal im so normal about this

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rocketpunchblam · 6 months

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you can not separate riddler from his npd or ocd, they are both extremely important parts to his character and is what makes him the riddler. Without these he wouldn't leave riddles at his crime scene and be so adamant about besting the batman

#I am looking at you tom king #riddler #edward nygma #comic talk #dc comics #One bad day did NOT deserve an award #Edward nigma #Comics #batman rouges gallery #Dc #Wayne rambles #Wayne talks comics

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writing-nothing-but-spilled-ink · 1 month

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I love over protective older sibling storm BUT OVER PROTECTIVE BIG BROTHER WOLVERINE *CHEFS KISS*

also for context Peter (aka colosses) had romantic feelings for kitty and she loves him with all her heart the x men got unexpectedly teleported off world to aid in a battle in that battle Peter claims to have fallen in love with another that died in his arms he knew this new love for like less then a week and kitty for a while if you don't know who kitty is she's another member of the x men they also had her appear in wolverine and the x men and I think x men evolution, ..Peter ended up telling kitty he has fallen in love with another and no longer loves her and kinda just left her heart broken and wolverine is knocking some sense into him...and he was so funny about it also they happened to run into juggernaut in the bar here

Note: I have one more screenshot for this but I'll include it in the reblog

Via x men 1963 issue number 183

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foxxology · 2 months

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Hey Fox! For your ‘It Spreads’ did you write a script for how you want it to go before planning and drawing out the comic?

For It Spreads my process changed a lot throughout the making of the series, but yes! The general process for it was:

Have the general idea of storybeats that have to happen in the chapter.

Write out the dialogue in a word doc for the chapter

Thumbnail pages

Clean the pages

I'm also carrying that through to Skyfell as well since its a process I can easily wrap my head around

#foxx just got a letter #comic talk

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clambuoyance · 11 months

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Hey, I just finished the Young Justice 1998 comics (it was very good, I enjoy it a lot) and wanted to ask what should I read next? (I have some ideas but am not entirely sure since I haven't read a lot of DC's stuff)

Young Just Us Gang:

You can read any of the three solos for Tim (Robin 1993), Bart (Impulse 1995) and Kon (Superboy 1994), but Bart's is probably the most similar in tone to the YJ books.

If you want to continue seeing these characters together, then you can read Young Justice/Titans: Graduation Day (2003) and then Teen Titans (2003). Cassie never really gets a solo but she is a major player in that run which has 100 issues. Superboy gets a mini story in Adventure Comics: Boy of Steel (2009) and then another short solo called Superboy Vol 5 (2011). Tim obviously has a very long Robin solo, but you can also read Red Robin (2009) .

They also have Young Justice (2019) that features a lot of other characters, and currently Bart has been showing up a lot in the current Flash run (he has a story dedicated to him in Flash #800). Tim appears in a lot of runs like Tim Drake: Robin (2022) and such. Kon also has a mini solo called Superboy: The Man of Tomorrow (2023) !!

(I really havent read anything from the 2011-2016 era)

Other Recs:

If you're interested in more characters with similar age ranges, then Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown books are really fun! Just as a basic list: Batgirl (2000), Batgirl (2009), Batgirls (2022)

Or Supersons (2016) for younger characters like Damian Wayne and Jon Kent. These characters both have a lot of runs as well if you are interested.

There's also the old Teen Titans runs you can read with Dick Grayson!

So yeah there's a lot!!!! I could go on and on haha

If you're curious the main things I'm reading right now are mostly marvel but got some dc stuff too. Im reading Superboy: Man of Tomorrow, all of Kate Bishop and America Chavez's comics and basically the whole young avengers gang, hoping to get through Booster Gold's solo, and I wanna read Nova (Sam Alexander) and the Champions run.

#clam answers #dc #comic talk

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turtlesreborntmnt · 2 months

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News… And Then Even More News

So... a lot happened when I was gone.

First, the relaunch. I love that they're getting a lot of fresh faces on the book. I'm not familiar with a lot of their work (Besides Chiang, I love Paper Girls), but I heard a lot of good shit about Aaron, and I'm loving what I see Infront of my eyeballs with the artists. I love the direction that Sophie took, and I'm very excited for this new direction.

Although, there is one big thing I'm worried about. Jennika. I know that the Alpha one shot is gonna be about her, but it still worries me a bit. She is the fifth turtle, man. Like she should be up there you know? I pray she isn't written off the main book.

Also, personally I'm pretty indifferent on resetting to #1. It can be seen as a pretty desperate move, but also slapping a #1 on a book fucking works. Hopefully this gets more people talking about the book at least. Hopefully this lasts another 150 issues.

Fuck. Yes.

We knew that this was happening for a bit, but I still wanted to show off how coooool this is. Also, apparently it's on ongoing and not a mini series. Again, Fuck. Yeah. I really love street level TMNT stuff, and this seems to be the ultimate version of that. It's also written by Juni-Ba, who did some incredible work for the series already so I already know this is gonna be fire.

I got some hypotheses on who the hell Nightwatcher is. Obviously, the original is Raph, and it still might be. It also might be Jennika, since they are very clearly turtle shaped and with the seemingly lack of appearance in the main title. It also could be Metalhead? And like he got a new smaller body and turned into a vigilante for some reason. It could also be future Raph from the 2023 annual. The Nightwatchers' left arm doesn't match his right, maybe implying that it's completely robotic thus replacing his lack of arm? Idk. I'm excited none the less.

SANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCO

Mateus Santolouco is back on art. That's it. That's all I need. I'm hype.

On top of that it's gonna be written by Erik Burnham, and the story seems super interesting too lore wise. Sorry I don't have much to say other than SANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCOSANTOLOUCOSANTO-

Also some cool side characters getting more screen time.

Holy shit. OMG.

I need to fucking calm down, Jesus. Anyway. Tom and Sophie are returning with a new ongoing. Very very little is known about this but I assume it's gotta do with Hob and Mutant Island, along with the general Mutant issue now that the wall is broken. I can't wait man. I also assume the second half of Alpha is gonna directly tie into this ongoing. Also, Maligna? Or something. Fuck, maybe that's Linsey...

Poor bastard.

That's all the news for the main continuity, I'll briefly go over some other stuff. Saturday Morning Adventures is still going strong WITH TURTLES FOREVER 2 AND USAGI CROSSOVER????!!!!???!?!?!

Also anthology series. I bet that's gonna be really fun.

Cya.

#tmnt #tmnt idw #comic talk

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imperiuswrecked · 6 months

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How do you think Doom's dictatorship should be portrayed? I'm personally always very uncomfortable when writers try to go the "benevolent autocrat" route, and after making online friends with an F4 fan whose parents and extended family actually suffered under such a regime (and who is imo rightfully furious whenever writers try to depict Doom's rule as being actually good or "worth it"), in addition to everything going on in Eastern Europe right now and the alarming rise in nationalist and authoritarian-leaning politics/politicians/ parties/voters all over the world, I'm admittedly even more critical of that depiction. It just seems incredibly irresponsible, disingenuous to how real-life human hierarchies/economies/politics/psychology actually work, and disrespectful to the past, present, and future victims of these regimes. (Not to mention the fact that Lee/Kirby, two Jewish WWII vets, were pretty explicitly satirizing the very concept of "benevolent dictatorship" with Doom in their original F4 run, and being Doom's two daddies, they'd probably know best.)

But that's just my opinion, and I'm curious to what extent (if any) that you agree with me, as a fellow Doom connoisseur. Thanks, and I hope you and your loved ones have a safe and blessed rest of your week. <3

Thanks and I hope you and yours are healthy and safe as well ❤️

While I don't personally know the other F4 fans you speak of, or what the full context is around their feelings for Doom, I do understand why they and you might be uncomfortable with characters like this and that's fine since you don't have to like characters, and if they want to be mad at writers for portraying Doom that way then that's their right but I don't agree with them. I'd personally rather Doom be a benevolent autocrat than the writers try to inject hilter dictatorship into Doom's character/imagery. I find that very disturbing for a character like Victor to be subjected to, because Nazism isn't something I take lightly and definitely feel it's inappropriate for a character with Victor's background to ever be linked with.

I'm gonna put this really simply; it's fiction. Doom can be a benevolent autrocrat, be beloved by his people, have little children throwing flowers in his path, and be a villain to the Fantastic Four at the same time and be depicted as a good thing for the Latverian people because it's fiction.

There's a time and place for discussion when it comes to how fiction affects real life, but it doesn't work in Doom's case because showing Doom in this light does not mean any writer endorses an autocratic ruler nor will have an impact in Real Life because there is no such thing as a real life benevolent dictator who gives his country and people free healthcare, education, safety, security, prosperity, and the freedom to worship whom they please/live their lives in return for their complete obedience and being unable to critize Doom's rule. It's literally never happened in real life. There is no such thing as a good government in the entire world, because there will always be a time or government or leader who has harmed their people or other people in all manner of ways. There is not one single country in the whole world that gives equal rights to every citizen, doesn't harm people either physically or through their laws/government system, and provides everything every single person needs with justice and fairness.

You say it's disrespectful for writers to portray Victor in this way but disrespectful to whom? Disrespectful to people who suffered under real life dictatorships? They don't have to like the character or agree with the writer, but I've already established that a fictional character/story doesn't take precedence over real life suffering and I hope people understand there is a line of separation between enjoying fiction that has flaws/isn't good/has darker elements vs real life. As readers it's our responsibility to determine what we can and cannot handle in fiction.

Disrespectful to the characters? Latveria is fictional, the characters are all fictional, if we take into context the history of Latveria in the 616 and look at Victor through the eyes of the citizens of Latveria, both Romani and non Romani citzens, then to them Victor is a hero, he led a rebellion and resistance against the rich and powerful ruling royal class of Latveria who were absolutely horrible to their citizens.

If we are continuing in the context of the 616 universe, "how could Doom's people love him/look up to him even though he's set on world domination" then you have to acknowledge first that world domination isn't feasible in the real world at all, that's a non issue, and second that Doom wasn't created out of thin air, he didn't wake up one day and go "well I'm gonna take over my country and then the world" He was built from the oppression and crimes against himself and his people by the ruling class of Latveria. Kirby and Lee's origin for Victor isn't one of a tyrannical overlord deciding he's in charge, it's the story of a boy outcast from the main society because of his background, oppressed by the government/ruling class, orphaned as a child, and hellbent on gaining power because of his circumstances.

If you feel Victor is satire then that's your interpretation but I personally feel that silver age villainy is an era comic readers have outgrown and shouldn't apply to today's character, because by that logic then Magneto would still be seen as an allegory for mutant supremacy because that's how Kirby and Lee portrayed him, but instead over time he was transformed into a character who's past suffering had a righteous (if flawed at times) cause. Both Doom and Magneto were made in the same era but while Victor's past was laid out from day one, Erik's past was created so much later.

Just like the Mafia Boss with the Heart of Gold, who is a totally bad guy but he protects his people/loved ones is a fictional and very popular trope, it's unrealistic in the real world because Mafia/Mob/Crime bosses make their living doing things/crimes that hurt others.

Anyways I think it's a non-issue that Victor is portrayed as a benevolent autocrat. I think it's interesting to have him be portrayed as such because it fits into his characterization of him believing that all people who don't have his level of intelligence are beneath him and he must treated as children or sheep he must herd and care for. It fits with his ego being so large that he believes that him being in charge is the only path forward. It's a great way to study the character too because Victor is very fascinating to me.

#victor von doom #doctor doom #comic talk #imp answers

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kindlyanni · 2 years

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Have we read the same comics, I wonder 😅

Sure, I’m not a fan of how he looks in some early comics but Morpheus is hella fine in other ones 😳

But I do really like the show Morpheus as well.

#a sad wet cat nevertheless #the sandman #comic talk #tv talk

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benbamboozled · 3 months

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Thinking tonight about the goobers who voted for Jason Todd to die because it would be “interesting for Batman’s character”…only for DC to have no meaningful follow up and immediately assign Batman a new Robin.

Wow. What a bunch of absolute sandwiches.

#Jason Todd #comic talk

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dyrdeer · 8 months

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katya week fact: she is a character in the webcomic im writing! She's not the main character but shes one of my fave designs in the webcomic. If yall are interested in learning more i can start to post pics of the other characters too ^w^

#deerposting #comic talk

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rillette · 9 months

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I know you don't read any gl past gl rebirth but also this is the worst panel I've ever seen so other Hal fans have to see it to suffer with me

I'm about to scream over this why this is just so wrong on so many levels

It's so bad. It's so fucking bad. Also fun story about this panel I went to a tom king signing last year to get my supergirl trade signed, and before i went i asked my friend loof if they wanted anything signed and they said this specific panel bc it would be funny. So I printed out a picture of this panel and stuck it in my trade for safe keeping as you do. and when i handed it to tom king to get it signed, he asked me who my favourite superhero was and immediately opened up my supergirl trade to see a large picture of hal jordan 😭. anyways then he talked about how he took a philosophy course in college and realized how "ambiguous" the definition of willpower is and that people got really mad over the panel and i stood there like ahaha wow thats crazy

#asks <3 #ty for the ask!!#comic talk #like hal has so. many other fucking problems that are actual real problem bc he is so ill in the brain.#tom king could have brought up any of those but he fundamentally does not understand any of the green lanterns so.#like girl. hello?

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rocketpunchblam · 9 months

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If you write riddler as faking his mental disorders you automatically made a shit adaption. Riddler is not the riddler without his ocd. Riddles aren't just a gimmick, riddles is his obsession, riddles is his compulsion, riddles is his LIFE

One bad day riddler did not deserve to win any awards, I can only hope at this point they won't mainstream that adaption. Dc needs trying quit trying to make every single of their gotham villains into the next joker. Fuck obd: riddler and fuck you Tom king !!

#riddler #Wayne rambles #Comic talk #Comic rant

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greenbookreclaim · 6 months

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*Sees three panels of Starscream from TF EU issue 2 online.* DID I EVEN PRE ORDER!!???

#transformers #starscream #gif #just do it #comic #comics #comic talk #pre order #I'll order it a second time if I don't see it with the next 2 f'ing days #tf eu #issues #fustrated

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dethkomic · 11 months

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Writin' Comics and Junk: Part 5 - Point-of-View Within Comics

Welcome once again, pals! We're now on the third issue of our second volume of Dethkomic, and I'm really excited to share with everything that goes down in this one! If you haven't guessed that the pace won't be slowing any time soon, then I have bad news. Anyway..!

The next Dethkomic update will be Friday, June 2nd, 2023!

For this tutorial update, I thought I'd share a little bit about something a little on the abstract side as it pertains to writing and specifically, comic writing.

Storytelling in the pages of a graphical media like comics, as I've alluded to in previous updates, is a multifaceted thing with a lot of different angles to consider -- and I mean that pretty literally.

More on this, under the cut!

Putting the Pieces Together

Last time we met, I went over the various panel layouts that are commonly found in comics. Before that, I talked about studying movies, tv, and other visual media as a means of understanding direction and decision making in that area. Way before that, we touched on the differences between plot-driven and character-driven stories.

What I'm going to cover today, and into the next string of updates, sort of mashes everything together. So if you haven't yet, take a moment to at least scan over some of the entries that came before this one. Here's a handy guide:

Part 1 - Covering the basics of the character versus plot relationship and the differences between character-driven arcs and plot-driven ones.

Part 2 - Covering story beats and sketching your plot.

Part 3 - Covering Comic Composition (Part 1) - General comic panel layout and decision-making

Part 4 - Covering Comic Composition (Part 2) - Types of panels and further analysis of how they drive the story

Good on all that? Wonderful! Onto our topic, then!

So we know that in a very broad sense, most stories fall into the categories of character-driven or plot-driven. In comics, as it is in all stories, what makes something come off as important is based on what may seem like insignificant choices the author has made. These push the reader to notice, often subconsciously, that our perspective should be riding behind the eyes of one character, or standing a few feet behind a few characters, or way out into space as we take a look at the entire world...

Who or What is in the Driver's Seat?

If I was going to write a story from an omniscient point of view, I might phrase a paragraph like this:

Charles stood atop the bridge in Copenhagen, looking at the hard-won keycard in his hand. He didn't know it, but somewhere else in the city, a doctor was taking care of his partner.

And if I wanted to write something similar but framed from a limited perspective, it'd be more like:

Charles stood atop the bridge, his muscles aching from the fight they'd just endured. It was worth it, though. The keycard in his hand proved it. He could only hope his partner had also survived.

Again, broad example. Don't @ me because of my syntax, English majors - I know there are objective, omniscient and limited POVs and that they come in numerical "person" states, hehe.

These examples are all well and good for prose (Dethkomic: The Novel is not something I'll be pursuing, but if you want to take a crack at it, by all means, go nuts), and depending on how you'd been inspired to write the rest of the story, you'd probably follow one or the other method based on that, alone. But comics are a bit trickier. We definitely do have places where plot is driving the story, and times where characters are taking over... but you're not always sticking to just one.

Here may come my greatest point of controversy, then: If you're going to write comics, you're probably going to be doing some head-hopping.

Still with me? Very well, and I appreciate you hearing me out, despite typing something so sacrilegious.

Learning how to Write Good Head-Hopping

First, if you're not a prose fiction writer or are otherwise unfamiliar with what head-hopping is, then I suggest a primer over here. Next - Is the term "good head-hopping" an oxymoron? You can decide for yourself, but I really don't think so.

Many a story has been written that shows an author's mastery of their craft in seamless jumps from perspective-to-perspective. Many, many a comic has, too. Not trying to toot my own horn, here... but let's take a closer look at the flashback scene we were referencing in our prose exercise, from page 40 of Dethkomic:

The panels are all laid out as you saw them in the story, but I've color-coded the two different points of view. In the red panes, we're in Charles' head. In blue, we've entered Caj's. Did you notice the shift? If I was doing my job as an author, you might have, but it didn't kill your immersion. So how is that done?

It's all in the transition.

As we saw, the scene above could quite easily handled by an omniscient POV. Want to tell the audience what someone is doing, then in the very next sentence, reveal what someone on the other side of town is up to? No problem!

In a limited perspective, however, things get trickier. We're in Charles' head, and if we want to know what happened to Caj - he simply doesn't have that information, so the author's not going to be divulging much. We'll need to shift scenes, therefore, and that probably means ending the chapter.

In a comic, though? I can't always cut a scene on a brand-new page. Hell, I can't always cut a scene in the same panel! But regardless, I have to communicate to my audience that we are, in fact, moving away from Charles' perspective and into Caj's. Several things help to do this transition in a clean fashion:

First, I kinda leave you hanging on poor Charles. He doesn't get a resolution, as nobody picks up the phone. Still, we're left to understand that his part in the story has ended.

Second, we start the panel shift on a new line. You don't always have to do this (especially if you want it to be jarring) but it helps to cut the scene in two.

Third, we literally place the camera behind Caj's eyes as she wakes up. There are few things more effective at showing we are now going to see how things go down for one character above all others than literally getting in their head.

Again, there are other ways of doing this, but paying attention to how your "jumps" occur can make a big difference in the comfort your readers feel when, inevitably, you have to have one character tap out so that another can lead the reader around for a bit. We're lucky in visual media, since we can employ a few more tricks than the folks who only work in words and lines of text - but we also have to take extra precaution so as not to be more confusing than intended with our layouts. If I had missed a beat, and just moved over to Caj talking with the doctor, that would have been too quick. If I would have lingered on Charles, that too, might not have been as successful. It's a balance, and your instincts about storytelling won't steer you wrong.

I think I'll wrap this little lesson up, here. Next time, I want to talk about the other ways a story can be carried, but not by the characters - by the plot.

I hope you enjoyed these insights. I realize they are a bit more advanced than the things we've previously covered, and therefore, a little trickier to understand and employ. But, as it is with all things, being aware of the rules and putting in a little practice should be all you need to master them.

Join me soon! And remember, Dethkomic loves you!

#dethkomic does writing #comic tips #comic talk

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