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sweetsdereese · 1 day
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Franks nervous about being at Camp Jupiter and ‘serving the legion’. Might write to his grandmother to send some of his blankets from home to use on his bunk then the ones he was provided with when he got taken in by the 5th cohort.
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fandomcrazyshit · 1 year
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Jason creating the most fantastic temples because he gives them character and cool designs that show his friends as demigods and does so much research and doesn’t sleep.
Everyone expected them to be like normal temples (without the nudity) but then they’re not and the Olympian ones looks so fucking cool.
And everyone is like flabbergasted and Dakota grins at everyone who asks because who else is supposed to brag for Jason?
“Jason never does shit boring. Boring is for amateurs and believe me, Jason is no amateur.”
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Why did Octavian kill Gwen?
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One of the most persistent if mid-ranking controversies regarding Heroes of Olympus is the fact that Octavian’s motivation for some of his evil deeds is not particularly well fleshed out. 
The biggest example would be when his kills the 5th cohort centurion Gwen, in the Son of Neptune. Yes, I’ve read all the essays and critiques, they don’t change the fact that he definitely killed her. It is often complained that he had no clear reason to do it, since it was a big risk and wouldn’t actually gain him anything. 
Another seemingly unclear act, was his attempt to blackmail Hazel. At the time she was just a lowly legionnaire from the disgraced 5th. Her one vote wouldn’t be likely to turn the upcoming praetor election, for which Octavian seems to have had no real competition anyway before Percy. It’s not as if she is in any useful position of authority.
But killing one of the 5th’s centurions opens up a position of authority. 
Hazel might not have been popular in the legion at this time, but the appointment of centurions doesn’t seem to be by a direct popular election like a praetor. There were service requirements, but we see them get bypassed on special occasions. It’s probably not something Hazel could have gotten on her own at this point, but maybe with an influential “patron” greasing the wheels, it could have been done.
If Hazel had been made centurion, a senate seat would have followed, and now she’s a much more valuable puppet for Octavian to use, far beyond just the praetor election. And in the case of the election, a centurion would only have one vote; but seeing the confidence legionnaires are taught to have in their officers, an endorsement would probably secure many more votes.
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aroaceleovaldez · 1 year
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new spqr tattoo solution, taking the “barcode” description very literally
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Jason waves his arm over the scanner at self check-out kiosks for like a solid five minutes just to make it beep
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deadangelos · 11 months
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THE FINAL BATTLE!
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dykeseinfeld · 5 months
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do all the nine houses use the same currency. if not, how much has the ninth house had to devalue in order to maintain levels of trade necessary to get supplies. what are their interest rates like.
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emeagirnacamps · 1 year
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i am kinda craving this very specifically type of hazel and jason friendship....
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lingeringscars · 2 years
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i can’t believe layla keating is coming back to me in the busiest weeks of the year 
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thetimetraveler24 · 4 months
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Sometimes I think about how people rank Jason as their least favorite because he’s “such a bland character with no personality”, but was he even allowed to have one in the first place?
He’s two years old when Lupa guides him to Camp Jupiter. He’s brought up to be the perfect soldier, the perfect Roman, the perfect hero. He doesn’t know life outside the legion. He’s the son of Jupiter, he has to be great. If he’s not, he’s a failure and a disgrace. If he is then he’s still not the best because there so many other heroes who did it better than him so he has to keep trying harder and harder even though no matter what he’s never going to be good enough because the moment he slips up he’s no longer the perfect hero.
The few times he actually tries to do something he wants, he’s only cut down. Changing the 12th legion to the 1st legion? No, you can’t do that. It’s tradition. You’re wrong. That’s stupid. Joining the 5th cohort? Why would you join those losers? You’re only hurting yourself. You could be great if you join the 1st cohort instead like a good Roman boy.
So why would he try to do anything that cultivates his identity? Why would he try to do anything that brings him joy if everyone around him is just going to suck it right out?
He has no best friends at Camp Jupiter. He has acquaintances. He has people he’s friendly with. Say what you want but Reyna was a coworker. Dakota was cool, Gwen was nice. But none of them make Jason want to stay at Camp Jupiter instead of Camp Half-Blood. He thinks of Reyna but only in terms of he doesn’t want to saddle her with the responsibility of picking a new praetor. He thinks about duty. When he is picking between the camps he’s weighing his options between doing his duty as he’s done his whole life or picking himself for the very first time ever and he picks himself.
And it’s honestly so fucking depressing that the first time Jason picks himself and is actually supported in his decision happens when he is sixteen years old. And most of the people supporting him have only known him for a month.
But then he saddles himself with duty and responsibilities because that’s all he’s ever known and Percy is dying and Jason is a good Roman and a good hero and his job is to sacrifice his life for everyone else because of course it is. So he takes on Pontifex Maximus to build shrines and temples to minor gods and goddesses (not that they shouldn’t be honored but… once again he’s sacrificing his identity for the good of everyone around him).
And then, just as he’s finally discovering an identity for himself—he likes physics, he’s learning about the mortal world and living in it, he’s becoming more than just Jupiters son and Juno’s perfect hero—he’s killed.
Jason never got to be Jason. He only got to be Jason Grace, son of Jupiter, Praetor of the 12th Legion, slayer of Krios, one of the Seven, Juno’s Champion, Pontifex Maximus. He always belonged to someone else and never himself.
All this to say, Jason is my favorite of the Seven and although he’s not the eldest nor a daughter, as an eldest daughter I relate so hard and feel very seen in him.
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I do wonder if Camp Jupiter was afraid of Jason.
I mean 5th cohort he may he but that was by choice. He's their strongest demigod. He's been here since he was a toddler.
He's perfected the wolf stare and while he hides it well he's feral.
He's the standard.
Son of the King and fights every battle like it's his last. He fought a titan, by himself and not only survived but lived.
He's constantly fighting against tradition and people wonder if one day he'll just turn on them all.
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fandomcrazyshit · 1 year
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Saw this post that maybe Jason had a foster home or there was a system at Camp Jupiter.
Now I’m picturing like the 5th cohort doing everything they can so they don’t take Jason.
They think yeah it’s selfish but they’ve been together already why stop them now? What if Jason forgets them and doesn’t want them anymore?
Basically the shameless episode where everyone goes to different homes and the 5th cohort has the protectiveness so they don’t take their Jason.
Plus they always have to ask bad questions like about his parents. You never talk about his parents.
So my thoughts in summary:
5th cohort ready to attack who ever tries to take their blond boy away. Cause he’s their family.
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am I the only one who actually found camp Jupiter interesting and wished it were explored more? I wish it served a bigger purpose rather than simply being "an evil strict millitary camp" to rival the Greek camp and wasn't just written to be hated. I mean, the exteriors seem hella cool, they have war games, and the feasts are great, etc. I wish we got a more positive outlook of it, I mean, they have a literal city for demigods to settle down in? That's fucking cool.
I badly need a jason prequel exploring his life at CJ with his roman friends like Reyna, Gwendolyn, Dakota, how jason turned down the first cohort privileges simply to protect the 5th, his battle with trojan and krios, and of course, I NEED Jeyna having childhood beef w octavian and his dumb teddy bear massacres lol. gosh I need it soo bad now. None of y'all are writing fanfics about it either since jason is hated, so I might just do it myself one day, smh.
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aroaceleovaldez · 10 months
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time to design 30+ romans~
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lilislegacy · 2 months
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Do you ever think Percy and Annabeth have opposite reactions from people from Camp Jupiter and Camp Half-Blood? Like people in Camp Half-blood knew Percy since he was 12. They know that despite how powerful he is he’s still the guy that was heartbroken and crying for his mom after killing the Minotaur, the guy who made blue cola, and almost killed a kid in archery. And Annabeth is the super soldier trained from the age of 7 and the battle tactician that one the battle of Manhattan, and redesigned Olympus.
But in Camp Jupiter, Percy is the guy who arrived with a goddess on his back fighting two gorgons, broke the 5th Cohorts losing streak, and almost immediately became preator. And Annabeth is the child of a virgin goddess(?), who flew in on a ship that almost immediately carpet bombed the city and Judo flipped her boyfriend. (The fact she confirmed Percy was taken probably didn’t win her any points.)
Very different first impressions
Once again, another reason they probably wouldn’t stay in new rome.
thanks for the ask @darkmist111!
i definitely think camp jupiter and camp half-blood have very different perceptions of the two of them.
percy less so. the main difference between how cj sees him and how chb sees him mostly has to do with his age and experience. so while his entrance at camp jupiter was even more legendary, he showed up at both camps after doing something amazing, was claimed as a son of poseidon, and then went on an awesome quest and returned a hero. chb definitely knows him better, but both camps see him as a leader, and as an overall cool and funny dude.
their initial view of annabeth however? yes. total opposite. like… not even relatively similar perceptions.
now about them staying in new rome. i’m with you that they’re not going to stay there forever, like some people think. but not for the same reasons. as we see at the end of BoO, the romans and greeks totally bond. and by the end, they have a very, very high opinion of annabeth, with the whole athena parthanos and tartarus situations. plus when percy and annabeth go to college there, they’ll get close with everyone there. so i think they’ll def settle down there for a bit after college, probably start their family there. but annabeth is an architect who craves to travel, and percy is a loyal new yorker, so i don’t think that would be their forever home. like i’ve said before, i love the idea of annabeth building a greek version of new rome. a new greece or new athens, or something along those lines, and them living there.
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theriverbeyond · 1 year
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i think my worst personal headcanon for the 4th house is that there are just no real adults there. the 5th "takes special pains with the 4th house" -- hegemonic pains. what if those pains are broader than just Abigail & Magnus feeling parental for Issac and Jeannemary and instead take the shape of the 5th parenting a house of eternal childhood? Issac was a womb vat kid, conceived 6 years posthumously on his father's side (acording to the cohort files). 6 years! you only have to be pubescent to bank your genetic material, maybe not even that with necromantic augmentation. and womb vat means you bypass all the risks of a child or young teenager giving birth.
the 4th house necromantic specialty is radical thanergetic fission -- it's a suicide bomb. and, we know from Harrow's conception that younger people produce more thanergy upon death vs adults. fidelity. vanguard of the empire. big families, but only because you need spares. fuel for the machine & blood for the gears. why would you let them grow up when their purpose is to die young?
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umbran6 · 11 months
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A Different Champion
Ok, hear me out on this - Leo should've been the champion of Hera rather than Jason. At the very least, they should've had a relatively more positive relationship in comparison to the one time they interacted in The Lost Hero.
For those who've seen my prior posts, you know I've analyzed Leo's importance in the plot. I would also further cement this in that Leo has more importance to Hera than Jason. Even from an initial viewpoint, Hera would have more motivation to help Leo considering his background. Esperanza Valdez was willing to raise her son and still love him despite her family blacklisting her for having a child as a single mother and willing to work 9-5 just so they could live. Jason was the second child of Jupiter and Beryl Grace, who this time was fully aware of her lover's divine nature, willingly having a child despite the fact that not only did it defile Hera's marriage, but it was the second child that was testament to Zeus' disregard for his Pact made among his brothers. Overall, Hera seems more likely to sympathize with Leo and Esperanza.
This sympathy and favor is visible when you examine how Hera interacts with them, even when they were young. I always found it pretty hard to believe that Hera would pressure Beryl Grace to sacrifice Jason to sate her wrath, because Jason and Thalia were already destined for persecution - Zeus had broken the Pact of the Big Three twice. Thalia was never specifically targeted by Hera ( and the statue incident is... questionable, considering Olympus was freaking collapsing and Hera was also busy fighting Typhon), and as far as we're informed by Riordan, Hera was never particularly active in Jason's life while he was in the 5th cohort of the legion.
On a side note, Beryl Grace was an utter idiot for naming her son after the OG Jason. The OG Jason may have initially been favored by Hera for being one of the few mortal heroes without any divine parentage. However, he also severely screwed the pooch because he willingly broke his wedding vows towards Medea by attempting to marry Glauce despite all that Medea did and risked for him, to the point that its noted in most analyses of Euripides' Medea that the titular protagonist got approval from the gods for all of her actions. So yeah, Beryl painted a very big target on her son with that name. And the less said about Thalia's name, the better.
Hera spends nearly most of Leo's youth acting as his nanny while Esperanza Valdez works in the warehouse so they can stay afloat. Though most of the time Leo discussed this in the Lost Hero, he focused on the bizarre and unusual — having him use knives to cut jalapeños, prodding him to poke a snake, the whole 'burning your fingerprints into the park bench' incident, there is more to it than that. Hera doesn't just encourage the traits of a stereotypical hero, but also Leo's creativity such as him drawing the Argo II in crayons and though he wasn't aware of it, gives Leo hints as to how his future may look like. We also kind of forget that Hera still willingly helped raise Leo for Esperanza, which must've been an immense boon because she was a single mother.
Hera even performs what is quite likely the same ritual Demeter applied to Demophon so long ago — roasting him in a fireplace so Hera can burn away his mortality. Of course, it could be argued that she was doing this to strengthen Leo so she could have a stronger demigod to fight against Gaea, but either way such a possibility would benefit him more than it would for Hera. Needless to say, she must've favored Leo to the extreme if she was willing to make him, a demigod son of Hephaestus, immortal.
Furthermore - and please hear me out - let's expand on this connection. Esperanza seemed to be aware of Hephaestus's true nature as an Olympian because she knew that Leo's powers came from him, so it wouldn't be too far to say she was aware of Hera's true nature. She didn't know, however, that Hera was planning to train Leo to become a being that would defeat Gaea when she rose. She made the Queen of the Gods to promise not to intervene in their lives until Leo became aware of his true nature when Esperanza saw the fireplace scene, because Leo noted that ever that day, Tia Callida never showed up in Leo's life afterwards. So when Leo knows he is a demigod, all bets are off and Hera can finally start playing a more active role in his life.
So, now hopefully I've established that Leo should've been Hera's champion considering how she seems a lot more sympathetic to Leo. Now let's imagine how this plays out in the story. For now I'm going to specifically focus on the Lost Hero, because that's the series Hera is more prominent. Jason's memories are still wiped, Piper still thinks Jason is her boyfriend, but Leo is remarkably spared from the memory-warping effect of the Mist and is aware that Jason just straight up appeared out of nowhere.
Leo doesn't have that same edge of trust towards Jason, but that gives him a better perspective on what exactly Jason was sent out for. So he notices that Jason has a coin engraved with Latin, he uses latin terminology to describe the monsters that hunted Leo since he was young, and sees that Jason has combat skills far more advanced than an amnesiac should really have, he starts putting the pieces a lot earlier than we expect and when he is introduced to Camp Half-Blood, Leo cooks up the theory that Jason may have come from a Roman camp, and reasonably cooks up the corresponding idea that Percy is now in said Roman Camp.
When Leo figures out Jason's true origins, two things happen: he immediately tells it to Annabeth (he's not that much of a dick to hide what actually happened to her bf), and Hera conjures a specter to confirm this theory and explain why she's doing what she's doing. The whole scheme against the Earth Witch that killed Leo's mom, and that oh yeah, there's a wrench in the scheme. This concentrated method turns the gist of the quest from how the original Lost Hero presented it:
'Oh, this nebulous evil villain is going to use me as a freaking battery for her son/dragon and that sucks, so you must rescue me.' Oh yeah, and Percy is gone too, and we don't know where the freaking Tartarus he is, so there's that.
To this:
The Witch that was involved in your mother's death has captured me so that she can use me to fuel the resurrection of her strongest fighter. So if you want to get some sweet, sweet revenge/atonement for your mom's death you have to rescue me. Also, I'm holding your friend's memories with me so if you want to help him recover who he his he will also want to join. Percy Jackson? The guy who's gone missing? I have him with me as well, so Annabeth Chase better actually help out, or he's going to die too. You're in? Okay, here's how to do it, and you better get your butt here before the Winter Solstice because that is the day the absorption process is going to finish and things will really go to hell in a hand basket.
With that single message, we actually have people that aren't just following a prophecy. Annabeth joins the party because, oh yeah, now she finally knows where her boyfriend is and is willing to stomach saving the goddess she hates the most in order to help him. Jason's in it because Hera wants his memories and wants to know why she got him involved in her gambit in the first place. Leo? We have the direct motive of him wanting to atone for his mother's death while also getting revenge against the other party that was also involved. Piper's the unexpected fourth party member/possible traitor because her dad's still being held hostage.
Now, I'm not going to delve into the full plot detail changes, but a good chunk of it remains the same with some other changes. Annabeth gets a stronger friendship with Leo on an intellectual level, because you know, the guy was able to offer her a bit of hope in finding her boyfriend. He's more cautious of Jason, but also more genuinely comforting. And finally... he's suspicious as heck of Piper, because he can feel there's something more behind her joining the quest.
But I want to focus on this scene: when Leo gets claimed by Hera as her champion. I, preferably, would imagine it takes place after she is rescued from becoming a power source for Porphyrion. Mainly because then she would have enough power to do a proper claiming and thus she can be as extra with it as possible.
I mean, imagine it. Everyone's gotten back from rescuing Hera, they're all patting themselves on the back and everyone's praising Jason, Piper, and Annabeth unwittingly ignoring Leo. Everyone's hearing about Jason fighting Porphyrion, Piper getting to free her dad from Enceladus, the surprise reveal of the search for Percy, when...
A light starts to glow above Leo's head. It's faint at first, but then it grows more vibrant and swells to cover the entire dining pavilion, swallowing him whole. Then it fades away to reveal Hera, putting a crown of laurel leaves on Leo's head, his clothing replaced with a chiton that was dyed ruby red that glimmered against the firelight from the braziers. A peacock is glowing above his head, the hundreds of eyes shining like the aurora of the north.
Leo's stunned as his mind does his best to process his new reality. Hera gives him a single, warm smile, and everyone else is staring in shock as she announces his status as her champion and gives him her divine blessing. Camp Half-Blood practically erupts in shock because this is the first time the camp has witnessed a male demigod being claimed as Hera's champion with the last guy being... the OG Jason.
I mean, the look of horror in Annabeth's eyes as she realizes one of her friends is now the champion of the goddess that she hates with a burning passion. Jason suddenly realizing that Leo was a lot more in the know of Hera's whole plot than he suspected, because why otherwise would Hera make him her champion? The members of Cabin Nine, suddenly looking at Leo with a sense of betrayal because yeah, Hera's the goddess that threw their dad off of Olympus. Leo isn't really sympathetic with them, Hephaestus had practically abandoned him for sixteen years of his life and forsaken him for eight. Piper can't exactly see him in the same light - how could she, when suddenly her friend had changed so suddenly?
All of this happens as Chiron steps forward, bowing in front of Leo and his patron before uttering these words: "Hera. Goddess of the Heavens, Protector of Men, Patron of Rulers. Hail, Leo Valdez, Champion of the Queen of Olympus."
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