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thepicklejair · 22 days
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townhulls · 1 year
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i need to know what the berrynose-spiderleg dynamic is like SO bad. pov your mom who thinks you’re the best thing since sliced bread (mouse?) gets a new boyfriend who doesn’t really like her that much and kind of doesn’t acknowledge your existence. but also he’s a warrior and you want your fellow warriors to like you so much that you’ve gotta prove yourself to him somehow, so you’re gonna be so cool in front of him and he’s gonna treat you like One Of The Guys. but also he’s weird about your mom and that’s your MOM who’s your BIGGEST FAN and i’m not gonna call you DAD, spiderleg, a) that’s weird and b) you’re just the stepdad, not even the dad that stepped up
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the-owl-tree · 2 years
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can confirm berrynose was a smug little shit about being the deputy apprentice
i went thru the books to find it and found this snippet in sunset
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he's so funny i wish there were more instances in po3 of him being obnoxious about the deputy's apprentice......to the deputy's kids
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More reasons it'd be really cool if Kittypets are fae
Gives Tigerstar more motive if it's seen more that his dad was stolen by the fae and he doesn't want Rusty to bewitch the rest of his clan or something
Tallstar and Jake are now even BETTER because Jake gets to show Tallstar kittypet tricks and Tallstar is like "wow i love my powerful fae boyfriend"
FAE SKYCLAN
I just really like the phrase pet-touched in the same vein of fae-touched
FAE SCOURGE FAE SCOURGE FAE SCOURGE TIGERSTAR SPENDS THE WHOLE SERIES TRYING TO DEFEAT A FAE FIGURES THAT A FAE MIGHT BE THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BEAT A FAE AND SCOURGE MURDERS THE SHIT OUT OF TIGERSTAR AFTER TIGERSTAR BREAKS THEIR DEAL WHICH JUST FURTHER MAKES THE CLANS CONVINCED KITTYPETS ARE FAE
I think Berrynose should be even MORE insufferable as a treat
I feel like Ashfur would accuse Squirrelflight of using fae magic to manipulate him and while he's a dick for doing it and I hate him it could be a really interesting scene
Graystripe having to deal with being pet-touched and people being very suspicious of his new fae girlfriend
Cloudtail using pretend fae magic to help Brightheart, putting like a flower in her fur and using her belief to be like "yeah this flower? ive imbued it with courage" and its very cute and then they can have a reveal that the courage was in Brightheart all along and yeah I know its cliche but dammit its CUTE
Does this make dogs also fae? Are dogs the Unseelie to the kittypets Seelie? Does this make people even more "hey what the fuck" about Millie when she reveals she can speak dog
Let Purdy learn about this and tell even WILDER lies because no one can tell him that he can't do a thing because fuck you he's a kittypet he can do lots of things you can't actually.
Firestar gets to say the word fuck and everyones like "gasp a kittypet word of power" which is hilarious to me
Jayfeather threatening people with fae magic and medicine cat knowledge sounds really funny especially if he uses his dream walking with it to scare the shit out of them
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bonefall · 9 months
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BB!Honeyfern -> Honeysnake
A girl who's gonna be stealing a little more time in BB.
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[ID: The Better Bones version of Honeyfern. She is a spiky, golden, blue-eyed cat with a brown mask and stripes. Her torso, paws, and 'boots' are creamy. She is being bitten by an adder, and prepares to bite back]
Clanmew Name: Mlashiff, Mlasis (Mla = Honey + Shiff = Frond, the leaf of a fern) (Mla = Honey + Sis = Serpent, generic term for snakes)
Alignment: ThunderClan
Relations: Parents - Sorreltail, Brackenfur Siblings - Molepaw, Cinderheart, Poppyfrost Ex-Mate - Berrynose Apprentice - Briarlight
Honeyfern stands tall as the strongest, most ambitious kitten in the Brackenfour litter. Through BB!Po3, she is a rising star in ThunderClan, and Hollypaw's rival. Honeyfern's ferocity was only matched by her compassion; in early BB!OotS, she doesn't hesitate to lay her life on the line to attack an adder in defense of Briarkit.
After fighting for several days against one of the worst injuries Clan cats know of, Honeyfern survives, and is bestowed the Honor Title of Honeysnake before even getting her first apprentice.
(One of the first completely uncontroversial choices that Bramblestar makes!)
But, the painful ordeal causes Honeysnake to realize things about her boyfriend, Berrynose. Traits that had once been endearing were suddenly not so cute. Boldness comes across as selfishness. Protectiveness becomes controlling behavior. His 'sense of humor' means he doesn't take things seriously.
If only it could have been so simple to just leave him. No, she never would have guessed that the week she left Berrynose, he would immediately become interested in her sister. Poppyfrost!! What are you doing?! GIRL
With her uncle Thornclaw as deputy and far too busy for an apprentice anyway, it's obvious who Briarkit's mentor must be. The brave cat who saved her life became her guide and best friend, staying by her side through every hardship until her fateful death during the Battle of the True Eclipse (BOTTE).
LOTS more under the cut!
Honeysnake's personality is firm, responsible, and occasionally overly proud of herself. At the same time, she is driven by kindness more than anything else, and would break her own back to lessen the burden on her clanmates. She takes after her dad, Brackenfur, more than any of her siblings!
Because she massively values her own strength and her helpfulness, she can be goaded into overexerting herself and bossing around other cats. She doesn't mean to be pushy, but her heart is so large that she sometimes fails to realize that she's only made things worse. Big sister energy!
She must learn to balance this; a flaw is often a value in excess.
When she was an apprentice, her personality could really clash with Cinderpaw's.
Cinderpaw is very emotional, to the point of instability. Honeypaw couldn't understand that Cinder had to learn to work it out on her own, and sometimes inserted herself into her problems
This would make them both upset, as it wouldn't work and then Honeypaw would scold Cinderpaw for not taking her unsolicited advice.
In spite of all this, they love each other and got closer when they got older. It's ironic that Honey and Poppy would eventually be the ones fighting-- they NEVER fought as kids!
She fell in love with Berrynose after he developed a crush on her. Honey hadn't really thought much about romance before then, but she fell hard.
Berrynose was bold and exciting. She was always the one chasing after other people, finding ways to help everyone except herself. To BE pursued instead felt flattering, even freeing. He could be REALLY mean, yeah... but that was endearing, for a time. It felt like honesty, and it was refreshing that he would just say the things she would hold back to be polite, or diplomatic.
They were getting serious before the snake, which is now shuffled to happen in the first book of BB!OotS
The energy in ThunderClan had been... off, for a while. Since Hollyleaf had revealed the secret of her parentage and vanished, uncle Thornclaw had replaced Squirrelflight as deputy, and Leafpool was demoted as Cleric.
The couple had been discussing kittens and such, something uplifting so things could start to heal and move on.
In hindsight, they were normal adult discussions. In Honeysnake's reflections, something is ironic about how mature Berrynose had been just before the incident. Like he really was growing up, for a while.
Was he truly getting better? Or was that just a side of him she stopped being able to see in the new light? She'll never know.
The fight with the adder is burned into her mind, in extreme detail.
She remembers being cuddled next to Berrynose from the second level of the camp. She remembers the way her stomach dropped when she realized, from her vantage point, that a branch-shaped object under the wall was slithering. How she screamed for Briarkit to get back and bound across the quarry faster than she'd ever moved before.
The snake bit her first, and then she bit it back.
Venom from an adder burns. It quickly spread up her paw and through her arm, searing her veins like fire. She crumpled into a screaming heap next to her dead foe, sending the entire camp into a panic.
Jayfeather, already overwhelmed through being a new Cleric working alone after Leafpool's demotion, having recently been publicly disowned, and still mourning his sister, had to spring into action
And the very first crack that Honey noticed on her mate was how Berrynose threatened Jayfeather. "You'd better save her, if you don't I'LL kill you!"
Jayf didn't even dignify it with a response. She was glad he didn't. She didn't want Jay doing anything but helping her not have burning blood.
An adder bite is one of the deadliest, most painful, difficult injuries to treat across all four Clans. She required round-the-clock care and was in constant pain, for days, without guarantee she would survive.
And Berrynose was unhelpful, to say the least. Even going so far as to wrinkle his nose when Jay chewed up a mouthful of nettle for Honeyfern's treatments.
What she once found funny and endearing wasn't so cute when he couldn't be serious when she wanted him to be.
Leafpool, ex-Cleric, started stepping in to help Jayfeather in the den... against Bramblestar's demotion. Jay had never treated such a serious injury before, the rest of the Clan didn't stop needing treatment
The Clan was already a bit split on the idea of Leafpool not being a Cleric anymore. She's Leafpool Moonpool. She made mistakes-- but what else are the Queen's Rights even for?
Has she not already been punished? And what about Honeyfern, their clanmate, who needed her help right now?
And Bramblestar would NEVER prevent Leafpool from giving an injured cat from getting the proper treatment they need..........
But, of course, Berrynose was more loyal to his mentor than almost anything else. He had concerns about an unholy, codebreaking ex-Cleric attempting to heal his mate, and what it would mean for Bramble to rescind an earlier command.
Honeyfern, obviously, didn't care if StarClan themselves had come down to say Leafpool Bad. She wanted to not suffer and die.
And after monumental effort on the part of two trained cats, the entire Clan doing their part to support her, and Honeyfern's indomitable will to survive, the burning cooled to embers and the pain subsided.
She survived the bite of an adder, killing the beast in the process. An achievement that was so impressive that ThunderClan concluded she MUST be truly blessed.
Bramblestar is stingy when it comes to Honor Titles, but for this? He could not ignore it. The Clan needed a morale boost. She had survived the insurmountable. Everyone had come together over this situation, in a way that they hadn't in many moons.
So, as soon as she could stand for a ceremony, he decreed before their ancestors that the venom had been an anointment (thornclaw came up with that line). From now on, she would be known as Honeysnake, in honor of her survival.
It's rare that cats who are so young receive such Honor Titles, and it immediately boosted her up in status.
Berrynose was jealous of this. Not in a way where he'd say so openly, but in the way he would downplay her Title, not celebrate her achievements, or use it to deflect in conversations.
The breaking point was when the newest crop of apprentices was assigned, and Bramblestar decided that Honeysnake was absolutely ready for her first apprentice.
(Millie's three kits, despite being a little older than Dove and Ivy, were slightly delayed in their apprenticeship so they could all be apprenticed at once)
Hazeltail and Mousewhisker had proven themselves strong and competent, ready for their first apprentices. Mousewhisker was given Bumblepaw, Hazeltail receives Blossompaw.
To make sure there weren't too many young mentors, Birchfall was given Dovepaw, and Brightheart received Ivypaw.
And, lastly, to commemorate her strength and honor how she'd saved this child, Honeysnake was given Briarpaw.
...leaving Berrynose as the only cat of his litter without an apprentice! While Bramblestar, HIS mentor, was leader!!
But instead of being upset with Bramblestar, he felt Honeysnake had taken what he'd been owed.
Maybe some other time, Honey would have tried to comfort him, and make him feel better about it all
But she was DONE. That was ENOUGH coddling! SHE was the one who had gone through all of that, killed an adder and saved Briarpaw, and now he feels so entitled to an apprentice that he's upset with HIS MATE?
Poppyfrost, meanwhile, had been watching the ceremony of the apprentices with a forlorn gaze... and was about to get sucked in.
Without getting into Poppyfrost too much here, her key traits are Curiosity and Avoidance. Setting boundaries has always been difficult for her, or saying no to people. So when Berrynose turned his sights on her following his breakup with her sister...
Poppyfrost felt good. She felt desirable, for the first time since she'd given birth to Jayfeather's secret children. She hadn't shared with anyone how low she'd felt for the past 6 months, and it suddenly felt like there was a light in her life.
From Honeysnake's perspective, though, Berrynose found a whole new way to get into her life through Poppyfrost. Poppy started taking his side, or at the very least, not supporting her sister. Honey couldn't get away from Berry without avoiding Poppy, too. So the fights continued.
But, the most important thing in Honey's life quickly became her apprentice.
Briarpaw was attentive and enthusiastic, a bright little ball of light and hope. Honeysnake had a lot to teach her and she listened eagerly
But Honeysnake couldn't save her when the tree came crashing down.
Briarpaw lost control of her back legs, and it was immediately, widely accepted she would not be able to become a warrior.
As Jayfeather spoke with Littlecloud about how to treat her and give her a good quality of life, picking up the "notes" for Wildfur's old mobility device, Millie started becoming very controlling of her daughter.
At first, Honeysnake tried to give the family space... she didn't know what to do, if it was right to get involved or not.
After all, Millie is Briarpaw's mother. She just wants what's best for her, and Honeysnake wasn't sure how much Briarpaw could do now either. She loves her apprentice, so she didn't want to hurt her, or ruin her family by accident.
But then she started to realize how miserable Briarpaw was becoming. She was always such a joyful kid, so excited to get out there and try everything. A radiant little fireball, eager to fight for her Clan.
Now, she was silent, just letting her mother speak for her, only ever piping up to comfort her own parent.
Her quietness wasn't coming from her injury-- it was coming from how Millie was making her feel like her life was over. Like it would have been better if she died, since it was hurting her mom so much to "see her like this."
One day something hit Honeysnake, like a revelation. "I never stopped being her mentor. It's STILL my job to be there for her!!"
She couldn't completely stop Millie from making Briarlight feel awful. She couldn't prevent Blossompaw from misplacing her anger on her sister. She couldn't make Graystripe do his job as a dad to help his kids.
But Honey could be there for Briarpaw. She could be a safe place to talk, a friend and a mentor, and just get her away from Millie for a few hours a day.
And she was even wise enough now to realize that arguing with Millie directly would only make things worse for the young cat. Everything was for Briarpaw, what SHE needed. How to help her.
Together with Jayfeather, they'd even planned out how to schedule things so that Briarpaw could speak for herself without Millie interjecting.
For Briarpaw, it meant everything. There were people in her corner.
Though she couldn't pass an assessment in the usual way, Bramblestar still allowed Briarlight to get her full name. After all, she, like her mentor, had survived the unthinkable.
Honeysnake had never been so proud of anything in her whole life.
And at the end, just before the Battle of the True Eclipse when the Dark Forest was going to attack, they had a final conversation. Watching the moon inch closer to the sun, and knowing it may be the last time they ever spoke.
Briarlight said something she'd been holding back for a long time. "I'm sorry I couldn't be the apprentice you deserved..."
It made Honeysnake's belly lurch. After all they'd been through, to hear she was still holding onto a piece of what Millie made her believe was painful. "What...? I didn't save you to make a warrior. I did it because you have a life to live. Brili, I'm your mentor. I'm supposed to deserve you."
It turned out to be exactly what they suspected, the last words they'd ever speak to each other. Honeysnake fought ferociously for the Clans in the BOTTE, reunited with her old rival Hollyleaf and putting her quarrels aside. She meets her fate halfway through the night, in the bloody Second Wave.
Her death fills ThunderClan with sorrow. She's deeply mourned by everyone; her mother, sisters, friends, nespring, Clanmates. But most of all, Briarlight holds her memory close to fill her with strength in the coming years.
Honeysnake's spirit is invoked for fulfilling one's full potential, and making hard, painful choices to reach it. As the generations go on, she's associated with the shed skin of snakes and beetles, and the 'necessity' of putting oneself in danger to help others.
OTHER TRIVIA
SPIKY. I decided to give her Brackenfur's colors with Sorreltail's texture. She's the most intensely-colored of her siblings, BRIGHT golden, hence the name.
She's also got Sorreltail's torso marking going on, and her fuzzy 'dividers.' She got the boots from Brackenfur though.
In BB, she has Sweetness Tolerance! Ironically enough, she is able to taste and enjoy honey... and boy does she like her sauces.
Her favorite food is honey-glazed bacon, meat strips cut from the belly of a boar. A rare treat but a delicious one. She likes to eat the whole thing like a noodle, chewing it upwards and not using her paws at all.
As a kit, Brackenfur used to tell her to mind her manners. She had a bad habit of eating things without using her paws, because she likes sauce but not getting it on her beans.
She had her eyes on deputyship from a young age. She wanted to be just like her dad.
Losing him was rough. It was even harder when Bramblestar took power just a few months later, she felt like she should have been seeing her dad making the announcements...
But, she stayed strong, especially for her siblings who seemed to be taking it even worse.
Canon doesn't mention what sort of snake bit her, but BB takes place in northern England and the only venomous snakes there are ADDERS babey!!
I drew a girl adder on purpose because something felt very funny about this. here I go pitting two bad bitches against each other. diversity win! The wild animal that tries to eat a baby is a girl!
ADDERFACT: A female Vipera Berus is brown, a male is black and white, but their color can vary immensely.
Bramblestar is a terrible namer. Honeysnake, Mlasis, is a fine name, but he chose the generic term for all serpents (sis) instead of an adder specifically (sipya). In his head it sounded more honorable.
But! It's not the worst!
"Honeyfern" was given by Firestar, and intended to be a nod to her rivalry with Hollyleaf! Hollyleaf's suffix referred to the leaves of most trees, and Honeyfern's to the leaves of ferns.
Both them were named after Brackenfur, who they both looked up to. Brackens are a type of fern, and Firestar wanted to invoke a plant for the names of both cats.
Because Honeyfern was named first and also Brackenfur's child, she got the word for fern leaves.
Of course *Holly*leaf was already named after a plant... but no one ever said Firestar was a FANTASTIC namer either, after all, he's the genius behind "Brambleclaw."
Honeysnake's relationship with Poppyfrost was stable at the time of her death, with her two young nespring having been born... but if it was ever going to "improve," who knows.
but they were cordial. At the very least. She would have been involved in the lives of Mole and Cherry.
Unfortunately there's always a lot left unsaid when someone dies so young. She had a whole life in front of her, cut short because of Tigerclaw's ambition.
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bramblewhisker · 6 months
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Jayfeather realizing that Berrynose keeps winding up in the medicine den with thorns in his paw because he's hoping to get some advice for wooing Lionblaze out of him.
Berrynose: Oooaauugh Jayfeather help, it hurts so much! (he put it there)
J: Berrynose, again?
B: Yeah, heh, I'm sure, uh, I'm sure Lionblaze makes fun of me all the time for it, huh?
J: Not really. Hold still, will you?
B: Haha, yeah, he likes to play it so cool, doesn't he? Acting like he doesn't care while he's chomping down a... what did you say his favorite prey was again?
J: I didn't.
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cagedcats · 4 months
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Daisy kits.
Yeah I thought it’d be cute to give them farm themed names too :,D I even checked out cattle (or cows as the wiki lists them) to see how they’re described.
And I guess the cats live in areas where black/black-and-white spotted cows are the most common. So that was easy. Cattle- for one.
Now sheep is for a black or white cats. So I just subtracted the grey on one of them (Hazeltail or Mousewhisker you decide) and slapped that Sheep- prefix
Aaaaand Berrynose gets Hay- instead of Berry.
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ninewhiskers · 5 months
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since im not gonna write it for real heres a hollycinder fic idea i had about cinderheart and berrynose
it takes place before cinderheart and lionblaze cement their relationship + after hollyleaf returns from the tunnels. lionblaze likes her but cindy's still deciding whether or not she likes him enough to want to settle. what she does know is that she likes his sister, hollyleaf. the problem is that she doesnt know if hollyleaf feels the same. the whole situation is driving her CRAZY.
shes on a hunting patrol with her old mentor cloudtail and her other friends hazeltail and mousewhisker and its still bothering her. lionblaze is there too but cinderheart avoids him because her feelings are so complicated.
cloudtail thinks they're fighting and splits the patrol up in pairs, assigning himself with her. she fucks up catching a rabbit and cloudtail gently but firmly tells her to Get Her Shit Together and sends her back to camp. shes sooo embarrassed. when she's done with that she starts Plotting because she doesn't want to get sent back to camp from patrol in front of her crush ever again.
she thinks, you know who else had a thing for two littermates? my good ol brother in law berrynose. he probably knows a thing or two.
the thing is that they're not terribly close. they bonded some over honeyfern's vigil but he wasnt the easiest cat to like and lionblaze still held some distaste for him. nevertheless she pulls some strings with brambleclaw and gets put on a patrol with him the next morning. luckily it's just them and some other warrior (maybe brackenfur, he'd understand if the two of them wanted to talk in private) so she makes her move.
she goes. ummm hey when you were choosing between my sisters. how did you decide?
berrynose is quiet. cinderheart starts to count her losses and then he says "you want hollyleaf and lionblaze dont you."
cinderheart immediately admits to it, says yes, yes, part of her only pursued lionblaze in the first place because deep down she still wanted hollyleaf and he was the closest she could get, had it been like that for him?
berrynose sighs and goes. yeah. at first. but i came around to loving poppyfrost for being poppyfrost you know. and you came around to loving lionblaze for being lionblaze didnt you?
cinderheart thinks about it and realizes, yes, she did. "but if...if honeyfern could have come back the way hollyleaf did, would you have picked her?"
thats about where berrynose gets fed up, shakes his head at her and says he's not going to answer that because it couldnt happen and theres no reason. then he softens a bit at her hurt expression and goes ok look. i cant tell you who to pick. but i will say that honeyfern knew poppyfrost liked me too.
and THEN he says "i dont like a lot of things about lionblaze. but i have to admit he's smarter than i thought"
the third warrior on their patrol calls them back to camp and as cinderheart walks into the clearing she sees them both on opposite sides of camp. the last few sentences would be about her "making her choice and walking toward her future" but it would be intentionally left vague as to who she picks
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saltycryptidz · 11 months
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hmm no actually what the fuck berrynose
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this is, very gross feeling to me
like yeah thunderclan has no kits rn but they have the Most apprentices of any clan rn, we all know warriors can be real sexist at times but goddam this is like, unheard of since Literally the prolouge to into the wild where spottedleaf mentions something abt not as many kits (at a time where they Had 4 paws and 4 kits in the nursery AND 3 nursery queens) like if that was bad enough that bluestar let rusty in surely at a time when the kittypet/loner xenophobia Should be at an all time low and theres less young cats, why go "ope gotta make some babies so in SIX MONTHS we can START to train them" instead of "maybe we look around for a Grown cat or two to join us"
and also hollyleaf made a big point abt not wanting kits or even a mate in po3 to list her among the other "lost babymakers" feels like a jab to part of what made her Her
anyway this feels Gross and Bad and Makes me Uncomfy if this is the reason that squilf anf bramblebitch have alder and spark and not "wow we love each other lets make our family bigger <3" eugh bad
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you know that warriors trope where you have this couple that’s all lovey dovey and then one of them ends up dying and so the living one moves on and finds a second partner and they live happily ever after? I feel like the Erins love relationship drama to the point where they’ll have the spirit of the first lover say “oh yeah I’m cool with you being with this person” and then later they’ll retcon their feelings and suddenly they’re all bitter and jealous
Yeah this is about silverstream, spottedleaf, feathertail hope this doesn’t happen with honeyfern too (most likely not because of the whole moonpool thing) but wow I’m also noticing how this is mainly female characters dying and letting their male partner move on
Sorry for this super long rambling but it rlly got me thinking of this dumb erin hunter retcon
you are absolutely right and i hate it
why do the erins end up making every she-cat jealous bitches
WHY DO THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE IN STARCLAN WHICH WIFE THEY LIKED BETTER, YOU LOVED BOTH THROUGH YOUR LIFE, THERE'S ROOM FOR BOTH
it probably won't happen with berrynose and honeyfern and poppyfrost because we all know berrynose would choose honeyfern but we also all know that honeyfern and poppyfrost wouldn't let that drive each other apart
god i hope poppyfrost ends up getting with mousewhisker i think that'd be really funny and so good
i can like barely think of any she-cats who have (canonically) had two mates (not like dating one and then becoming mates with someone else like how squirrelflight dated ashfur like a week i mean like were full on in love and were mates with each other)
i can only think of daisy since she was with smoky and spiderleg but that doesn't feel the same cause smoky was an asshole and made her feel unloved and spiderleg was... spiderleg, i don't really think they were ever actually in love lol
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blorboclaw · 1 year
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don't mind me, just thinking aloud, but there are like a bunch of leaders I could see getting killed (Brokenstar, Rowanstar, Firestar, Bramblestar, even a Mudclawstar who would have seized the power from Onewhisker...) but who would get killed at a gathering?
Bramblefake.
Hmm yeah sure but who then would be Marc Anthony?
Berrynose.
What other play from Shakespeare does Marc Anthony appear in?
Anthony and Cleopatra.
In which Anthony marries the former mistress of Caesar.
Which would give us a good (as in solid not as in actually good) crackship in Berrynose/Squirrelflight but like... i know i'm the one who gave you Fireheart/Rosetail and Dovewing/Jayfeather but even I have limits you know.
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artoutoftheblue · 6 months
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Dddid I hear Berrynose slander???
Because fuck him. He sucks
Yeah you heard correctly
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There are currently four Four widowed she-cats in Thunderclan right now. At least one of them should take a new mate. Just one! There are so many toms who got to find love again after their love interest died, Greystripe, Berrynose, Crowfeather, Grey Wing, Clear Sky got two dead she-cats under his pelt before Star Flower! The only she-cats I can think of that we've ever read about taking a new mate after her first one died is Palebird! I know Mosspelt had to food somebody after Frogleap to have Willowshine but we know who he is! More ladies getting second chances at love, please!
Absolutely- it seems almost taboo in warriors for she cats to take a new mate for some reason?
I was going to say do the Erins want these ladies to stay alone for the rest of their lives and then realised that the answer is probably yeah.
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firelordgrantham · 2 years
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things that I don't have the slighest idea if they are canon or not/said ''aloud'' in the text or just implied/did i read too much into it/it didn't happen but i remember it still/etc:
Tigerclaw going to Shadowclan after leaving the Moonstone while the others are asleep, telling them to attack THunderclan that night, causing Lionheart's death.
Silverstream, Mistyfoot and Leopardfur are best friends
Leopardfur was in love with either Whiteclaw or Stonefur or both at different time periods.
Talonpaw and Smokepaw being brothers and their mother being Tallpoppy.
Tawnypelt naming Flamekit after Firestar because she knew naming Tigerkit after Tigerstar/after tigers but people would assume it's after Tigerstar/ would be weird.
Jaykit meeting Mapleshade during his fever dream. All he told Leafpool was that it was a tortoiseshell cat, and she told him ''oh yeah that was Spottedleaf'' but she didn't see her and Jaykit didn't know any better. Wouldn't have been the first time Mapleshade tries to manipulate a feverish, disabled kit to make him do her bidding. Fortunately for Jaykit, Star Clan started to get interested in him and she didn't come back before a long time.
All the Three powers depending on intention: Lionblaze couldn't be hurt unless he wanted to (provokes a fight with Breezepelt and is hurt when he wants to prove Cinderpaw that he's not invincible), Jayfeather only entering other people's dreams when he wants to and Dovewing being able to close her senses off.
Jessie from BS being a Sky Clan descendant, just very far off from the original grounds.
Smudge also being from Sky Clan, hence why he was started to dream of Cloudstar: not just because of Rusty's house but because he was the closest thing related to Sky Clan in Firestar's vicinity.
we never knew how Sol knew about the eclipse.
Nightcloud being a member of Mudclaw's poss and mating with Crowfeather because both needed to prove their loyalty to the clan instead of just Crow.
Graystripe eating more than he contributed in the fourth arc.
Bumblestripe being in love with Dovewing the way Thrushpelt was with Bluestar.
Berrynose never having an apprentice because Firestar then Bramblestar didn't trust him with kits, even after Berrynose had his own.
Redtail is the father of Sandstorm. Dappletail is the mother.
The father of Cricketkit and CHestnutkit was Stormtail (Bluestar's father, I'm a bit lost with the Storm-cats).
the reason why Windclan was so small was because the strongest kits had been stolen then killed by Shadow Clan.
LIonheart is not only a very good secret keeper, he's also a very good story teller, hence why he grills Graystripe about the three old clans.
Clawface being the one who killed SPottedleaf.
Snowkit being promised to Brackenfur as a future apprentice the same way Berrykit was to Brambleclaw.
Tigerstar never going after his daughters or female descendants (even when Tawnypelt was more loyal to him during his life than any other of his family) because the males have the looks (the brown tabby look) but females have the brains and none of them would have been interested in betraying their clan.
Dawnpelt going to the Dark Forest at least once during the fourth arc.
Rosetail being mentionned neither as a queen nor an elder in the allegiances because she was both.
Thornkit and Brightkit being apprenticed so long after BrackenCinder because they had been adopted and were not biologically their littermates. Their mother was actually Rosetail, who died defending the nursery because her kits were in it.
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solobodor · 2 years
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Yeah i love this TERRIBLE terrible boy .. (first image is from last year) NOTE - I AM NOT A WARRRIOR CAT FAN ARTIST DONT FOLLOW ME EXPECTING WC CONTENT
Spoiler for the broken code
im so mad they didnt do anything with Berrynose reuniting with Honeyfern. but also would have been pretty sad for him to just walk into starclan, see his step siblings, stepdad, sister and suddenly this really petite cat comes to him and he can barely recognize her because they were so young when she died and he lived for years after that and moved on, but she's still his friend and they talk about poppyfrost and their kits and say how they'll watch over her and hope she is handling his death alright (i dont think they mentioned it, correct me if im wrong, my knowledge of WC is mostly secondhand lol )
but yeah .. actually pretty sure wc would have found a way to ruin this..
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What do you think about Cherryfall and Molewhisker, particularly the fact they tried to lead the ex dark forest trainees to a crazed, trapped fox in Dovewing's Novella? Like yeah, they were apprentices and all but you'd think they'd be passed over for becoming mentors after a stunt like that regardless. Then AVOS happens and they're immediately appointed Spark and Alder. Really makes you think!
I think the government should do research into Cherryfall and Molewhisker for cloaking technology, because it's inspiring how many unique things they can be involved with and still I remember literally nothing about them
I like how Cherryfall is kind of dumb, aggressive, and mean. Between eating hemlock, trying to trick people with a trapped fox, and being no help on Alderheart's quest... I just wish it was intentional, y'know? I like Cherryfall and Blossomfall being the mean girls of ThunderClan.
I'm expanding on her, she's Stormcloud's sparring buddy. She is also not Spark's mentor anymore; Squilf is, because she is no longer Spark's mother.
Molewhisker is getting killed in TBC to infuriate Berrynose in the same battle Rosepetal died in. Rose, Cherry, and Hazel are the surviving Daisykin, with Mousewhisker going to RiverClan.
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