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celticcatgirl2 · 8 months
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I love Mirsan as a ship don’t get me wrong but Sango was really done dirty in Yashahime/the ending.
She’s the second strongest member of the team after inuyasha himself meanwhile Miroku is pretty much a squishy wizard without his strongest magic yet SHE is the one who retires fro demon slaying and NOT him? Like it literally makes no sense outside rigid gender roles! And I can’t even see Miroku being the type of guy to try to enforce that (as if Sango would let him of he tried lmao) he wanted to be a dad more than anything! It woudkve been much more natural to see the reverse of Sango hunting demons with Inuyasha while Miroku retires from combat stays with the kids!
And then there’s the passing of Hiraikotsu and Kirara to Kohaku and then Hisui….those where SANGO’S they where HUGE PARTS of HER character in Inuyasha we see her very deeply connected to both Hiraikotsu and Kirara! It feels so WRONG for those to be taken from her, and fine at least Hiraikotsu is a weapon so if you REALLY want to retire her I guess it makes sense for her to pass it on. But KIRARA that’s her little friend her companion it’s a bond that really can’t be reduced to just usefulness in combat…
those two have been though so much together and they don’t even interact almost at all in Yashahime season 1 despite Kirara being present for so much of it! Not even just occasionally seeing her go back to Sango to spend time with her every so often at least! And heck for “utility” you’re telling me a woman with so many kids in an era before cars WOULDN’T find a huge cat you can load everyone on to to fly around to be a HUGE connivence?
It just gets me so mad….as someone who really loves Sango (and Miroku and Mirsan too!!!) who really wanted to see what they’re up to in the em sequel to see THIS happen. Heck we barely get to see her in season 1 at least (I still have season 2 to watch) despite seeing a good amount of Miroku…I would’ve loved to see them back in action together! And to see how their family life would look based on what would actually make sense for those two characters and not just forcing them to fit tired gender sterotypes they never DID fit in Inuyasha….It’s just : /
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meidozangetsuha · 2 years
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so it’s not that i dislike yashahime more or anything i’m just not as active bc with content reduced to monthly instead of weekly i’ve just been falling back more into other fandoms (love live, jjba, one piece to name a few) and i just wanna say i just saw some of the interviews and i want to give a personal apology to sumisawa for saying that hishida’s ideas were better in the past. i was wrong. oh god i was so wrong sumisawa honey i’m SO sorry i said that
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moonnue · 1 month
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fascinated by (what im assuming is) the latest chapter of yashahime because YEESH
(i'll put my thoughts under spoilers just in case)
on one hand im like, wow. this is. way better written than the anime. not surprised, it's been like that from the get-go, honestly. and then you have details like:
rin dreaming that she is her younger self before waking up to sesshomaru
rin still referring to herself as "rin"
sesshomaru just fucking LEAVING the second she wakes up like goodbyyyyye
towa noting how YOUNG she is and even saying THEY COULD BE SISTERS
rin getting drunk and picked up by kohaku and then IMMEDIATELY drawing parallels to when they were kids.
rin getting taken care of my setsuna with the note "the roles have completely reversed"
IT'S LIKE……………………. maybe im reading too much into it, but i DO think the "rin mom" situation is being handled better in the manga by CONSTANTLY REFERRING TO HOW FUCKED UP IT IS. like, to me it doesn't seem "haha cute" it seems "hey, isn't this thing fucked up? look how young she is. look how young she is. LOOK HOW YOUNG SHE IS. AND WHERE'S THAT TRASH "HUSBAND" OF HERS ANYWAY"
idk it seems to be handled with a bit more grace in my opinion…? i'd LIKE to see it pushed further by sesshomaru getting his fucking dues by SOMEONE but honestly that's probably not gonna happen. especially not with the manga being supervised by the yashahime anime team. (i can only assume as much.)
anyway. sesshomaru's a freak. your honor, kill this man.
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grayluforever · 1 month
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In the first episode of Yashahime, you think that after living there for 6 months that she would greatly approve her archery skills or reflexes to be better prepared in case of danger but when the root demon attacked the village and mistaked her for Kikyo (can't tell the difference between a woman and a pile of trash apparently) all she did was revert back to what she did when she was 15 years old and during the events with Naraku. She just stood there looking at it while she made glances at her bow and arrow that she lef to the side and frozen by fear and becoming completely helpless that the breed mare (Sango) had to end up saving her. Once again, she had to get her useless self saved by another person. When InuYasha arrived on the scene and she stated that the root demon called her "Kikyo" it was pretty obvious that she was indeed ONCE AGAIN jealous that even after 3 years she is STILL jealous of Kikyo. When she asked InuYasha what was going on he didn't really answer her or give her a proper answer and you can't seriously blame him due to her treatment of him in the past whenever he brought up Kikyo, especially the one time when he did tell her the TRUTH she still didn't trust him or believe him and made him sit over and over a few times.
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inukag · 1 year
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It also has to be said that Miroku and Sango flat out not giving a crap about Moroha is so out of character, it might be the most ridiculous think in the whole show and that's a tall fucking order.
YUP
Sunrise went out of their way to make sure Moroha would not have any interactions with her parent's friends! Miroku, Sango and Shippo did not give a damn about her existence 🙃 Inuyasha's story was all about finding a place to belong as a hanyo and surrounding himself with people that he loves, so obviously the logical thing to do in a sequel is to make sure all of that was for nothing and his daughter had the same traumatic, lonely childhood he had, right?
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yikesbergs · 1 year
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Accidentally stayed up until 4am thinking about how different battle royale one shots for crit role would go and what the line ups would be
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M9 defo have the advantage over BH simply cause having two sorcerers in one line up is two class cannons, but it’s anyones game for VM be Bells Hells. Then again so far Laudna is “hard to kill” so who really knows. (i wanna include Dorian so bad)
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YASHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ⚡
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chaosandstardust · 2 years
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the thing that really sucks about Yashahime is that it probably destroyed any hope we have for a reboot or a continuation that I'd actually be interested in. It really sucks. because i love inuyasha, it was my favorite show as a kid, and it's such a comfort for me. i love the characters, i love the world. i know that it's extremely out of date, but i still love it. and yashahime is going to hang over everything from now on for an eternity.
I told myself I wouldn't answer anymore Yashahime asks but I've seen this idea floating around a lot so:
I highly doubt that yashahime has destroyed any potential for a reboot/remake/more Inuyasha. one thing I've learned in my time in fandom is that as long as there is a sizable enough fanbase, there is a chance for more, in some form or another. look at the Star Wars fandom: they've been burned how many times now, and yet they're still coming back for more. As long as Inuyasha's fandom is active, the people in charge of Inuyasha's IP will come up with ways to get money from them. 
You’re right that it’s going to hang over the Inuyasha fandom now. The question writers are going to have to grapple with going forward is whether or not they see Yashahime as canon. The Star Wars prequels are known for being bad, but they're still generally accepted as "canon" among both the fandom and the writers. Yashahime is extremely divisive for a lot of very valid reasons, and a lot of people outright do not accept it as canon. But in the future, the people holding the Inuyasha IP may feel they have to take Yashahime into consideration when making new works, the same way that anything that Star Wars gets is going to consider the existence of the prequels.
But I highly doubt that Yashahime is going to be the last we see of Inuyasha. The brand is way too popular for it to just sit there. Yashahime trended several times over the course of it’s run, the producers no doubt took note of that. That’s not nothing. 
I know what you're going through anon. I don't support Harry Potter anymore, at least not financially, thanks to JK Rowling's...ahem...behaviour (transphobia). But it was a huge part of my childhood growing up, and seeing it get dragged through the mud in the pursuit of cash has been...an experience. I wish that we could've just left it alone, but Warner Brothers & Rowling were not about to do that with their cash cow. We’re in a time where IPs are going to be milked to death as long as there are people around to pay for them, because we’re not allowed to let things die gracefully anymore. This is just the world we live in now, and I hate it. I miss endings. I miss the beauty of a good ending. I miss not having every single piece of lore explained to me because a company needed to make another movie to explain it. I miss films that didn’t depend on me having to watch 15 more beforehand. 
So, yeah, I doubt that Yashahime has buried Inuyasha. The fact that they’re still selling merch and making a manga is a testament to that. Give it 5-10 years, maybe 15, but probably way less. They’ll come out with something else. 
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shironezuninja · 2 years
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There were 3 words that seemed to penetrate a bit of my focus when watching the 3rd episode of The Legend of Vox Machina today: Silas, Delilah, and Whitestone. 2 of the first names belong to the Nezu-Chan franchise (the latter belonging to his reboot cartoon); the final name belonging to my county of Queens, NY.
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inu-yasha · 1 month
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Kikyou is a very complex character and difficult to understand. The way Sunrise portrayed her is just plain wrong. They hate her and Kikyou still struggles with hatred, even in the non-canon Yashahime manga. Her character was reduced to just an "ex" and in fact Kikyou was more than just an "ex". She's been dealing with the hate ever since. Anime Kikyou helps her hate. It's easy to hate a character who is so cold, doesn't care and seems to care about something else, just cold because that's how she was supposed to be. Principal Inuyasha didn't hate her, he said he "didn't understand her and should stay dead" He made her cold and emotionless, but that's how she was supposed to be. My criticism of Kikyou in the anime doesn't mean I don't love her. I love her with all my heart, but I don't like what was done to her and how she was presented. She has been changed the most and very drastically. Inuyasha always looks like he doesn't love her but always looks at her compassionately, and she acts like Inuyasha's love doesn't matter anymore. Her scenes with Inuyasha were erased and changed, her personality was changed. I don't care if anyone likes Kikyou in the manga and anime. I express what I feel. Just like Kagome fans keep complaining that 'Kagome was changed' but the changes Kagome had are nothing like what happened to Kikyou. Kikyou, at the end of the episode, was presented as a rival who takes the main character and hurts poor Kagome. This sunrise subconsciously made Kagome feel like the wronged one and she should be pitied, while Kikyou should be hated. Sunrise made it clear that Inuyasha and Kikyou's love is in the past and they no longer love each other, especially Kikyou since she doesn't love him. They make it clear that Kagome is the only right partner for him and InuKik is a thing of the past. Kikyou's true personality has been erased, InuKik's love has been erased. It's Kikyou who needs justice. It was the Kikyou anime that made me love Kikyou so much, the Kikyou manga only strengthened my feelings and my love for InuKik.
Sunrise always favored Kagome . In the manga they didn't kiss, but in the anime Inukag got a kiss. I believe this is the most solid evidence that Sunrise favors Kagome and this ship. Kagome's favoritism and hatred towards Kikyou is very evident in this series and it can really be appreciated by reading the original source - manga.
yashahime continues to hate her. this is just sad. Kikyou didn't deserve this fate.
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yumedoca · 6 months
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Ok, it's time for a manga review / recommendation!! I think the last time I did this was for 'Touch' which was quite a while ago, So let's do it!!
If you know me well then you must know that I love gag manga and Takashi Shiina's 'Ghost Sweeper Mikami' was exactly the manga I needed as a gag lover.
I knew Shiina as the one who illustrated the 'Yashahime' manga (I haven't watched or read it but I've read about all about it on the internet and apparently the Yashahime anime isn't good but Shiina's manga is a better version of the story since it fixes some of the issues), but that isn't his original story since its an adaptation of Sunrise's original sequel (based of Takahashi's work). So I wondered what kind of stories and type of characters does Shiina write and one fateful day I stumbled upon the TV tropes page for 'GS Mikami' and being curious since.... and eventually reading it.
'Ghost Sweeper Mikami' is a manga featuring Reiko Mikami, a greedy and selfish exorcist only working in order to receive big bucks, and her assistants Tadao Yokoshima and Okinu, the former being a horny and perverted teenager while the latter is a sweet and friendly ghost.
The strongest point and my most favorite thing about this series is the characters, especially the main trio. Despite Mikami and Yokoshima's main characteristic being negative ones, they manage to balance the others flaw out because they are just as bad as the other. Meanwhile, Okinu has a positive dynamic with both of them, showing of their better sides as well. This balance makes their chapters very enjoyable and fun to read. The recurring cast is fun as well, they all have dynamics which bounces of well on each other leading to great situations causing hilarity and overall a good time.
The comedy is absolute gold and the artstyle is cute as heck (probably my favorite Shiina artstyle, but I do prefer the coloring in the current style more). The main characters have a good amount of character development / depth which they receive as time goes in but I don't want to spoil anything.
As for any criticism, the last few volumes is definitely the weakest part of the series, like I enjoyed the content but I wish it could've been a bit strongly character driven while some chapters could've easily come before the 'final' saga. I also wished the ending was a bit stronger, I guess it was going for a soft ending but the execution ended up being kind of weak.
That said, every series has its highs and lows so don't be discouraged because of the above criticism because it is definitely worth a read for the content, some stories had made me burst out laughing while some had made me tear up. And now I miss the characters so much that I've started watching the anime as well (I'm terrible at finishing anime so I'll probably take forever to complete it, lol). If you enjoy a fun and enjoyable manga with some serious tones in between, then you will love this series. And since I've enjoyed GSM, I should probably check out Shiina's other work, 'Zettai Karen Children' sometime in the future...
Anyways, go read (or watch) 'Ghost Sweeper Mikami'!!
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shinidamachu · 2 years
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Sid, I know you’re mostly an InuKag blog and this probably isn’t your area of expertise, but as a POC the discourse surrounding Kikyo - and by extension InuKik as a ship - really bothers me.
Seems like all anyone can focus on about Kikyo as a character is stupid Iove triangle shipping discourse, if she is hated or called out it’s generally only for that reason and that reason alone. Otherwise if people aren’t hating her because “she gets in the way of InuKag,” she’s treated as this cool girlboss who’s a tragic figure and simply misunderstood, now this is not to erase the complexities and nuance that is inherent to her character, but it kinda bothers me that she’s not called out more for her actual crime in actually being really low-key racist? Like personally she’s one of the most problematic characters in the franchise to me.
The way she treats Inuyasha throughout the anime and manga she acts like she’s doing him a favor and gives off strong “I can’t be racist, I have a black friend/bf!” vibes. She treats him as one of the “good demons” constantly comparing him to the full-blooded ones saying how he’s not like *that* because he has human blood. She straight out just asks him if he ever just thought of stopping being biracial essentially, telling him to throw half of his identity and race away and get rid of his problematic “ethnic features.” She is literally Microaggressions: The Character.
And I know IY is fiction and demons aren’t an actual race that exists in real life, but I’m of the belief that fiction does not exist in a vacuum, it influences and informs reality just like reality informs it. The whole “demons vs humans” conflict that is at the center of the narrative and a hanyou’s place in it feels like it’s meant to be a direct allegory/metaphor for racism between different ethnic groups out in the real world and how mixed people are often caught in the middle. Inuyasha to me reads as a very POC-coded character with very distinct physical features alien to the dominant human society that he is judged for constantly. And maybe I’m just being overly sensitive but it feels really wrong that shipping drama is people’s biggest issue with Kikyo when they’re kinda ignoring this big 5ft pink elephant in the room? I mean tons of other fandoms are always ready to decry and call out the racism inherent to their franchises so why doesn’t the IY fandom? (Though the callouts of Sunrise over whitewashing Shiori in Yashahime was a good start)
InuKik’s whole relationship in general is just really uncomfortable and has these weird racial power undertones to it, I mean Kikyo is a respected village authority who is a Miko in charge of protecting the village in demons, so literally in the position of a “cop,” while Inuyasha himself is a poor, disenfranchised minority youth who’s discriminated against day in and day out and Kikyo basically takes it as her task to play white savior and try to “rehabilitate/civilize” him society, all while she clearly has the upper hand and holds all the privilege between the two and yet she wants to play little miss “woe is me” and pretends or even dismisses the fact that she has any privilege at all? That her and Inuyasha “are in the exact same position???”
And sure we could talk about misogynist double standards and how it’s unfair I’m suddenly interested in “cancelling” her character when Sesshomaru himself is also a big ass racist, but see the difference is is that at least Sesshomaru is an upfront, out-and out open racist. Neither he nor the narrative ever attempt to paint him in the right and openly criticize and give him comeuppance for his racist attitude in life which he has to actively learn from. Kikyo on the other hand is imo the much more dangerous type of racist, she’s the insidious “covert” racist, who might not even realize they’re being racist but has internalized a lot of toxic societal messaging regarding certain skin colors (Or I guess in IY’s case, supernatural powers and animal-like physical features) and so overtly looks down on POC and does a lot more institutional harm to them than a KKK-style racist like Sesshomaru could ever do. She’s not a self-aware racist, which imo is the much more dangerous type.
Anyways sorry for going off on this long rant to you like this, it’s just always bugged me that the fandom seems to overlook this major flaw and problematic connotations surrounding Kikyo’s character when this is an an extremely important issue that deserves to be talked about more and has much more serious implications than any petty shipping debates.
I'm gonna preface this by saying I'm not white either. However, this doesn't necessarily make me an expert on the subject by any means. It's definitely not my intention to speak for every people of color in the fandom. I'm simply sharing a personal opinion.
Of course Inuyasha is fiction and demons aren't an actual race, but as you so pertinently put it: fiction doesn't exist in a vacuum. It influences and informs reality and, in return, reality equally influences and informes fiction.
Inuyasha's predicament is a very clear representation of racism. Just because it doesn't get called out by name, it doesn't mean it's not there. The prejudice, the discrimination and the ostracizing he went through certainly are.
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The unfair way in which he has been treated might have nothing to do with his skin tone, but it's deeply associated with his status as a half demon, something he can't nor should naturally change. For an allegory, it can't get more explicit than this.
In that sense, it matters little which real life minority we think Inuyasha was coded after. What's really important is recognizing that his half demon heritage carries an undeserved stigma. It shaped who he is and how he's perceived by others. As a result, everything concerning his demonic blood will inevitably rise very real racial issues. That's why Kikyo comes off in a bad light.
She initially spared Inuyasha's life because she didn't see him as a half demon, but as a half human. And then she got into her head that, due to their shared loneliness, they were not so different — completely neglecting the fact that said loneliness came from totally different places.
Like I've said before: Inuyasha didn’t choose loneliness. Everyone else chose to isolate him. Kikyo, on the other hand, isolated herself. Both Kaede – as the village priestess – and Kagome – as the new guardian of the Jewel – proved that it's more than possible to fulfil their duties while still mantaining deep, meaningful connections to other people. Kagome in particular relied on those connections for her power to grow.
And so Kikyo had the option to simply drop everything if she so desired: pass the Jewel on, stop using her powers and start fresh somewhere. She had the option to ask for help, to let people in.
At the same time, all the reasons why she doesn't are completely understandable. It makes perfect sense for her character, fleshs out her personality and it makes her interesting from a storytelling perspective. What she didn't have was the right to compare her situation to Inuyasha's, who didn't have the luxury of choosing.
Of course, having a little sister who loved her to death and an entire village worshipping the ground she walked on aren't impediments to feeling lonely or depressed, but it's still way more than what Inuyasha ever had at the time.
Kikyo's sorrow doesn't take away from the fact that she was privileged and therefore, could never speack to Inuyasha from a place of parity. Presenting herself as his equal is a false equivalence and the way the scene was framed made it look like Kikyo was asking Inuyasha for sympathy when the goal was — or at least should have been — showing him compassion and understanding.
In that sense, suggesting to use the Jewel to turn him into human is just awful. Not only would it be a selfish wish, but also there's no way for us to know exactly how it would backfire, only that it would. Inuyasha was being used to test a theory that would have failed. Spectacularly.
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Sure you can. You're half human, after all. But if it was used to turn you into a human... the Jewel would be purified and would probably cease to exist.
The repetition of the word "human" emphasizes said circumstance. Also, notice how it gets confidently associated with "purity", while such certaninty is not applied to what could happen to the Jewel, which would only "probably" cease to exist.
Not to mention Inuyasha canonically hates being human. It's bad if Kikyo doesn't know that fact, because it shows just how little they actually knew about each other for two people who are supposed to be in love, but for obvious reasons, it's even worse if she does know.
One might argue that her intentions here were good. Adopting the "we're not so different" approach was her way of reaching up to Inuyasha and turning him into human was mutually beneficial in theory. Regardless of what her reasoning was, though, the point is that she never should have done it in the first place. It was highly insensitive at best.
And even if you believe that Kikyo didn't have an actual issue with Inuyasha's demonic features — which is as valid an interpretation as any — there's no denying she wasn't too fond of them either, otherwise she wouldn't have jumped at the chance to get rid of them. She liked Inuyasha despite of who he was, not because of it.
The situation gets even worse when you realize that this arrangement isn't mutually beneficial at all. Hypothetically, Kikyo would be free of her duty, becoming an ordinary woman with a human Inuyasha by her side, which was already everything she wanted. But what about him?
Inuyasha is the one making all the compromising. He was the one putting his life — the one his demon father died to save — on the line. He was the one sacrificing his powers, his physical appearance and his father's legacy (because he wouldn't be able to wield Tessaiga as a human, even if he didn't know about its existence yet). Inuyasha being a half demon was the living proof of his parents tragic love story and he was turning his back on that not because he thought was what he wanted — like becoming a full demon, for instance — but because someone else suggested it to him.
What was Inuyasha getting out of it? "Acceptance" from villagers he didn't really care about and who would only be friendly to him because he wouldn't look like himself anymore, while still being racist to other demons? An "official" relationship with Kikyo, even though there isn't really a good reason as to why he couldn't have that without forsaking a part of who he was, since relationships between demons and humans, though rare, already existed and he eventually got that with Kagome?
Unless, of course, Kikyo's offer to live together was conditional. Which raises the question: what was Kikyo giving up, apart from things she wanted gone anyway? And what would have happened if Inuyasha refused to go with her plan?
Because it was one thing to kiss him in secret — like the anime-only scene in the docks — or after she was technically dead and had nothing to lose, but it's a totally different thing to own up to that relationship without the prospect of using the Jewel to change him. Unfortunatelly, her character isn't written well enough for us to draw our own conclusions based solely on canon material.
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The point I'm trying to make is that despite the narrative portraying Kikyo's suggestion as a selfless act on her part, she would be the only one actually benefiting from this deal long run. In the end of the day, it was more about her needs than his, because the kind of acceptance she was offering Inuyasha wasn't the one he needed, which Kikyo should've known.
Inuyasha going for it isn't the proof of love Takahashi — and part of the fandom — tend to paint it as. It's a proof of desperation: desperation that Kikyo would walk away if he told her no. Desperation to belong somewhere. Anywhere. Remember: Inuyasha had his mind set on becoming a full demon literally a few days prior.
That's why this ship was build to wreck, with or without Naraku. There were no trust, no intimacy, no honesty. They barely knew each other. Inuyasha put Kikyo on a pedestal and was constantly trying to act like someone he wasn't to please her (restrained, apathetic and unsure). Their whole relationship was based on loneliness and idealization.
All of this is to say that the way Kikyo treated Inuyasha's heritage is a defining trait of her character and, by extension, of Inukik as a pairing. And although it is possible — even preferable — to call out her behavior outside the shipping discourse, it's also perfectly understandable that both things will blend together because Kagome and Inukag are direct paralells to Kikyo's actions in this regard.
Trust and acceptance are recurring themes in Inukag's relationship and the lack thereof, in my carefully curated fandom experience, is the biggest source of Kikyo and Inukik criticism and it circles right back to those racial issues. Sadly, the closer we ever got from the narrative challenging Kikyo's perspectie on the matter was having Inuyasha end up with Kagome, who had an opposite worldview.
Obviously, there are still people who will make this solely about the love triangle and there will always be, but as far as I can tell, they're mostly casual anime watchers nowadays, not at all comparable to how it used to be back when the ship war was still raging on.
I dislike Inukik and Kikyo is one of my least favorite characters not because I'm an Inukag shipper or a Kagome stan, but because as an Inuyasha stan and someone who appreciates themes and character growth, I can't get behind it even if Kagome never became a part of the equation.
And I believe a considerable amount of people who share this feeling think the same, we just don't express it more often because... Well... You said it yourself: I'm mostly an Inukag blog. And I'd much rather focus on the things I love instead of the ones I dislike.
You see, the Inuyasha fandom is old and the Inuyasha material is older. Inevitably, some part of its content did not age well and inevitably, someone has already pointed that out. It's understandable, though, that some people would chose not to engage the discussion in exchange of peace of mind. Especially with the "let people enjoy things" trend going on.
I think your frustration is completely valid and strongly encourage that you keep the discussion going on your blog if voicing your opinions and experiences will make you feel better. Particularly, I'll be avoiding the topic unless prompted by asks such as this one, in which case I'm fine talking about it.
Fandom is my escape from reality and using my recreative time explaining to the white people in it why certain dynamics portrayed in the show can be considered problematic in a racial level feels exhausting and it's not really my — or any other people of color's —obligation to do so if we don't feel up to it. Especially when there's a huge chance of backlash and of people reducing valid points to ship wars.
It's funny you shall mention the Shiori incident because, unlike Inuyasha, the sequel doesn't have the "test of time" to blame for its poor "creative" choices, since it's from 2020. I distinctly remember calling out the blatant white washing her character suffered, along with the sane part of the fandom and either got ignored because people thought we were overreacting or straight up got told that we were only speaking up because we didn't like a specific ship the show portrayed and that what Sunrise did was fine because Shiori's dark skin is, and I quote: actually orange. So yeah.
That being said, I have reservations about comparing Kikyo to a cop because, personally, I've always thought the priestess occupation — at least as it was originally portrayed in the series — had more to do with medical and spiritual care than with mantaining law and order. Plus, cops tend to do everything in their power to keep their authority and privilege intact, while Kikyo was willing to give that up to become an ordinary woman, but I do see where you're coming from.
As for the double standards, Kikyo isn't the first female character to fall victim to rooted misogyny and unfortunately won't be the last. Kagome herself gets hate for sexist reasons, often from the very people who reprove it when the same thing happens to Kikyo. However, I feel like claiming misogyny is the only reason Kikyo gets hate is not a completely honest statement.
I'd say this argument would hold a lot more water if Kikyo hadn't constantly belittle and actively tried to kill the female protagonist — who had been nothing but kind and understanding towards her — over jealousy, or if her post death existence wasn't literally based on feeding off of miserable women's souls.
The double standards regarding Sesshomaru are real, but it had little to do with gender and everything to do with context. Kikyo was a fallen priestess. One the narrative asks me to believe is in love — or at least loved — a half demon. Sesshomaru is a racist demon who despised his half demon brother and humans alike.
So when Sesshomaru takes a little human girl under his wings and acts somewhat respectfully towards Inuyasha, that's a huge deal to me. But when Kikyo, who is already dead, gives up her "life" to save the child she was planning to sacrifice for the greater good and treats Inuyasha with dignity, my reaction will naturally be "alright, what else is new?" Swap or even their genders and my feelings will remain the same.
It's not a crime having higher expectations for her than for an actual antagonist when the narrative insists on sweeping the bad things she has done under the rug and focusing on how she is still as good as she has always been because, in that case, doing good deeds is not some extraordinary feature, but rather the bare minimum.
Sesshomaru's bad actions were openly and correctly portrayed as bad. He was forced to face his limitations, his weakness and his loses. That made him grow as a character. And if I criticize Sesshomaru, people will most likely ignore me or agree instead of try and justify his actions with his daddy issues. Kikyo being armored by the plot didn't do her any favors in this regard.
Besides, if we're talking double standards, I frankly don't think some people would be as willing to look past Kikyo's mistakes — Sesshomaru's too, for that matter — and ship her with Inuyasha if she wasn't so pretty. And honestly? That's fine. No one needs an actual reason to love or hate a character.
Lastly, it's not like I don't get Kikyo's tragic backstory, it's just that a huge part of why it's tragic in the first place is because of the choices she made. Naraku was detrimental to her fate, yes. But Kikyo's appeal is that she wasn't a passive person to whom things just happened to. She had agency to make decisions for herself.
People like Inuyasha, Sango and Kohaku had way worse than her and definitely not by their choice, but they never used their traumas as an excuse to be cruel. And I'm not saying this is a competition. Kikyo's pain it's just as valid. I'm just saying that, given these circumstances, in a fictional level, it's way harder to relate and empathize with her character.
And it's not like I didn't want to stan Kikyo. On the contrary. She's beautiful, cunning and interesting. I have a long list of powerful, unapologetic, morally grey female characters that I love and most of them were a bigger treat to my ships than Kikyo ever was to Inukag. The difference is that they were well written.
Kikyo's entire concept is fantastic, but the execution was abysmal. It's very clear to me that Takahashi didn't know what to do with her and it's a shame to see so much potential get wasted. I don't mind her characterization at all. She should be flawed and controversial. It's the lack of character development and satisfying redemption arc that I take issue with, if the narrative is gonna sell her as a changed woman worthy of our sympathy.
Anyway... if you want her complexities and nuances done justice, I've heart the Sesskik fandom is the place to be. They actually acknowledge her flaws, hold her accountable for the things she's done and explore very interesting sides of her personality.
I didn't mourn Kikyo's death for a second. But I mourn the character she could have been every single day.
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Hey, question: which is better? The Yashahime anime, or the manga? And why is it so different- did they change all the plot and stuff because the anime had problems or it wasn't' well-received? Just curious!
OH MAN THIS QUESTION twitter still drives me crazy with this one, and it's funny bc once someone brought this up to me to criticize Yashahime but blocked me while i was in the middle of responding to it lmao. i'm gonna answer the second question first then the first one because i have a lot of things to say about it
it's not so much they changed it bc the anime wasn't well received or anything like that- this is a really common thing with manga adaptions of anime originals. animes are a REALLY expensive production, which is why it's usually important for animes to faithfully adapt successful mangas. because if a manga is well received, then by trying to do a faithful adaption they can try to replicate that success and make a good profit. but when an anime original comes first, this changes the dynamic a lot. this is part of the reason The Promised Neverland S2 was such an unholy disaster, S1 was an incredibly good adaption of a very well received manga and S2 completely tried to go in an original direction and it was a disaster.
the more expensive production has been made- so a manga is kind of fanservice if you think about it! so it's actually not uncommon for manga adaptions of anime originals to heavily diverge from the plot! a good example of this is any Yu-Gi-Oh! manga after the original by Takahashi. pretty much all the YGO mangas for stuff like GX, 5D's, ZEXAL, ARC - V, etc all came after the animes and all have pretty divergent plots. same mcs and usually the same settings but sometimes personalities change, they all use different decks, the main antagonist and threats change, etc! i haven't seen it, but to my understanding Romeo + Juliet's manga's plot diverges from the anime. this isn't a universal rule though, Puella Magi Madoka Magica's manga is actually a pretty faithful adaption of the anime!
it's pretty common for these manga adaptions to be like "same characters, similar but different plot" since the more expensive production is already out there, there's not much reason to adapt it into a less expensive form, so the mangakas are often allowed to take pretty big differences in their direction to write "their version" of the story in the hopes it'll attract the same audience who might be interested in a new take on it! so i don't think it had anything to do with the Yashahime anime's overall quality, it was just a pretty standard industry practice. ofc i could be wrong and if anyone knows for a fact feel free to let me know, but that's the norm for these kind of manga adaptions
now as for which is better- there's a very high consensus among a lot of people that the manga is the superior version. the Yashahime anime was plagued with MANY production issues (including, possibly, don't quote me on this, a cancelled s3 due to the company merging which resulted in like a full 12+ episodes worth of content shoved into like three and a half) and a change in directors who had a different vision, whereas the manga has always had a pretty cohesive view of what it wanted to do. Moroha and Setsuna growing up together, Towa's motivations having changed due to her being the one with amnesia, Shiina being able to take advantage of the underdeveloped villains and the strength of one good storytelling telling his vision vs. a bunch of people seem to have really helped it! the anime is unfathomably special and dear to my heart and is my favorite anime of all time despite my many issues with it, but objectively? i would probably recommend the manga first and would say i think it has consistently higher quality (i do need to badly rewatch the anime to compare and contras though)
so yeah, those are my answers! i think how bad Yashahime is is like, extremely exaggerated, but i don't think it's that great either. i would personally recommend you start with the manga and then the anime later maybe if you want more! the manga isn't a flawless masterpiece and updates monthly though: i've heard some conflicting reports saying it's starting to hit near its first half or if its over soon (it does kinda seem like the endgame is in sight), but that's just my personal take! the manga caters a lot more to my personal tastes in characterization and what it means to be good shounen while the anime has more sentimental value to me and especially Towa's characterization there
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darklinaforever · 6 months
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aw dont know that sessrinners sent death threats to anime critics about poor animation and writing of yashahime and mistreated moroha, you need ask everybody
So, I don't know if it's me who's tired, so I'm misunderstanding the message, or if it's you who worded it poorly, in which case, send me a message back if my answer doesn't correspond at all to your initial message.
From what I understand you are an anti Sessrin ? And you're saying Sessrin's fans did bad things ?
If that's it, here's a little life lesson : Summarizing an entire fandom from just one part of it is bullshit. There are usually extreme fans on each side. Pro, like anti.
Just look at the Star Wars fandom.
So if I understood your message correctly, once again, nothing will make me stop loving this anime and the Sessrin couple. And even less because part of it was extremely inappropriate. Because it is not representative of an entire community.
The ASOIAF fandom is full of morons and people with more than dubious ideals, and that's not why I'm going to stop loving the GRRM universe.
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sesshmom · 1 year
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An Inconvenient Reminder about the 'Rin's Age' debacle.
The reason behind the belief that Rin was 14/15 when she gave birth to the twins is due largely in part to the terrible pacing of the show.
Katsuyuki Sumisawa is the main writer and the guy who pushed for this show. He's had the script for over a decade, and yet he somehow forgot to factor in the progression of time and how it affects all the characters in Hanyou no Yashahime / Princess Half demon. Which ultimately sparked this whole mess.
HQ92 has a really good breakdown of this.
In season 2, Sumisawa made matters worse with that 'She Was 18!' retcon. Because after Rin finally came out of the tree, she sounded and behaved like a child. You might think that's cute, but remember according to the flawed math, she should be in her early to mid 30s by this point. In comparison, her own daughters are more mature than she is.
So here is the whole discourse about Rin's age in a nutshell. The TL:DR being that it's a valid criticism of bad writing.
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inukag · 11 months
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i heard trigun reboot become huge hit revied fanbase and i dont know if sunrise would react
Well Yashahime did revive the fandom for a while, until everyone realized it sucked and left again.
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I watched the first episode of Trigun Stampede recently and it is so good. I also listened to a podcast with a producer for the series and you can tell the reboot was a huge passion project and a lot of love and care went into it. It's not like Yashahime which only happened because producers wanted to make money and Sumisawa basically had to be forced to come up with a story 🥴 If we had a PROPER reboot that followed the manga and was made by people who actually respect the canon story (NOT Sunrise) I'm sure it would revive the fandom too.
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