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Among the cultivation world, there was a countless number of sects and clans, exceeding even the number of stars in the sky. And, among these, there was a titan which stood above the others without a doubt — the Qishan Wen Clan.

Hi!! Love your blog (actually your blog and a few others were the reason I remade a tumblr account haha)! I had a maybe dumb question: I've seen a lot of fanwork stating wen qing was from a branch side of the Wen family and was wondering if that was novel canon? I know in cql there's the dafan wen but it's even in novel only works sometimes so I was wondering if I missed something x) like in the lan family both ljy and lsz are stated to be part of the main family line so being wrh's niece should be enough to be a part of the main wen line too, shouldn't it?

Hi! Thank you so much for the lovely complement. <3

It's not a dumb question, honestly it's so saturated in fandom that it's hard to really make the connection here especially with people forgetting that if you're a part of the main family, you share the name. But yes, she's still a part of the main family. It's just huge. Here's the passage in question that lays that out, and then I'll lay out the two that people usually use to claim that they're not really a part of the Wen family just to see what we're working with.

"Wen Qing could be considered a famous cultivator of the QishanWen Sect. She wasn’t a daughter of the QishanWen Sect’s leader, Wen RuoHan, but instead the daughter of one of Wen RuoHan’s cousins. Although they were far cousins, Wen RuoHan had always had a close relationship to this cousin of his. On top of that, Wen Qing was exceptional in the liberal arts and studied medicine as well. She was a talent, and thus she was rather favored by Wen RuoHan. She often followed Wen RuoHan to the banquets of the QishanWen Sect, which was why Wei WuXian found her face familiar."

Chapter 60: Poisons Part 5

So the book is pretty explicit at this point that she is definitely related to him, and even if it's not a close relationship by blood, she has grown up around him and knows him well because he and her father were very emotionally close and as a result, she's favored by him too.

Of course we can't choose who we're related to, and it's clear even in the same chapter that she very much does not like or approve of what he's doing and she's fighting back in her own way as safely as she can without compromising either her people or especially her brother, but the point stands that she is related to him and not in a questionable way. That Wen in her name is not just for show, she is a part of the family with enough power to do things like hide some fugitives and act strangely without it being questioned.

Now, as for the justifications of them being a distant branch that isn't related, it usually comes down to these two passages:

"Another guest cultivator stood up, “Of course it’s different. The Wen-dogs did all kinds of evil. To arrive at such an end is only karma for them. We only avenged a tooth for a tooth, letting them taste the fruit that they themselves had sown. What’s wrong with this?”

Wei WuXian, “Take revenge on the ones who bite you. Wen Ning’s branch doesn’t have much blood on their hands. Don’t tell me that you find them guilty by association?”"

- Chapter 72: Recklessness Part 1

Here we have Wei Wuxian saying that Wen Ning's branch doesn't have much blood on their hands. But that's less of a branch that isn't related to Wen Ruohan and more the idea that if you have three brothers, each of whom have three sons, and each of those sons have three sons, you usually mark who is descended from who by a branch. They are still a part of the main Wen family, just descended from a particular line, denoted by Wen Ning being the current male heir to it, hence why Wei Wuxian is able to connect it.

A good argument indeed about their relative innocence in the Sunshot Campaign, but not about how connected they are to the clan. As we saw above, that distance did not stop Wen Ruohan and their father from being close, nor did it stop him from later being close with his niece.

Then here's the other one where I notice the tail response from LXC is often left off...

"Lan XiChen responded a moment later, “I have heard of Wen Qing’s name a few of times. I do not remember her having participated in any of the Sunshot Campaign’s crimes.”

Nie MingJue, “But she’s never stopped them either.”

Lan XiChen, “Wen Qing was one of Wen RuoHan’s most trusted people. How could she have stopped them?”"

- Chapter 73: Recklessness part 2

Even though she's a distant cousin, that doesn't stop them from being close to Wen Ruohan and his branch. They're still associated together multiple times.

The long and short of it is I believe there are two reasons why this tends to come up.

The first one is people who struggle with understanding the nature of clans and family and end up taking the people who make the clan of the unique Dafan Wen branch as canon as well, even though in CQL itself, there is never actually a distinction made of where they are from and if they are completely divorced from Wen Ruohan and anything he did. It likely started as shorthand from lacking the novel term Wen Remnants and eventually took on a life of its own.

The other is that people tend to struggle with the idea that not everyone up with Wei Wuxian that he rescued might have been involved in some way in the war and not as entirely innocent as they could have been. They carefully ignore the part where she's mentioned as being close to him, they fall back on the lines of not doing much damage and Wen Ning's branch and come up with the answer that they were not involved in the war at all, that they were all perfectly innocent innocents who never held a sword and erase the nuance of Wei Wuxian protecting them. That shouldn't be as relevant as it is, the point of it all is that they are no longer in war and regardless of what they did, the manner in which they are being treated is unjust. Wei Wuxian takes anyone who's willing to ride away with him.

The fact of the matter is that we know it is likely they did not do much in the war, but they wouldn't have been able to escape it entirely. The fact of the matter is that they are still a part of the main clan and those who escape are named and referred to by the narration as The Remnants Of The Wen Clan, the family. Wen Ning is a part of it, Wen Qing is a part of it, Wen Yuan is a part of it. They are not some mystical branch that's so far unrelated that they have no connection but a similar sounding name, they were a part of the family when it was great and they are still a part of the family when it is fallen.

In this case, branch is because the Wen family is huge. So are at least three of the Five Great Clans. We can't speak with any certainty on the Nie as they're less focused on, and the Jiang we know to be down to Jiang Yanli and Jiang Cheng because they are the only two in the family that they can send to the indoctrination camp, but the Lan have six boys all the same age who wear the family headband, meaning that there must be at least five families all with the name Lan who were able to have a child in the same year, and even in the Jin we know of Jin Zixun being born from Jin Guangshan's sibling, and also later a Jin Chan who is not connected to any named character, but is still a Jin who is picking on Jin Ling. They are all still a part of the main family, just lower down in the line of succession for Clan Leader. That's all that it means.

I hope this helped answer your question!

Censorship and CQL: Overanalysing how The Untamed adapted the 'Dafan Wen'

I don't think I've seen people talk about this a lot, and I really do love CQL a lot, so I'm not going out of my way to hate on it and I certainly don't think of myself as claiming truths out here; this is just my own view of a concept in CQL. That being said, hot take! I don't like the 'Dafan' Wen. It's just that something irks me about having a whole community of people that conveniently did nothing wrong in the series, and have only ever healed others. A lot of CQL or (some) CQL fanfictions seem to hinge on the Dafan Wen being completely innocent; not like those other Qishan Wen who are evil! Which ties in to a broader point about CQL's censorship. And I know MDZS and CQL are both different media but I want to try to justify while I feel this way (in chapters ;)).

1: Wen Qing adapted

Where do I start? I think this is best started with Wen Qing, their leader, and a character I love no matter what media she's in. Wen Qing is already changed up a lot in CQL. Her circumstances involving Wen Ruohan are forced upon her due to his power. Her brother's safety is being actively held over her head by 1 villain, the ultimate evil villain. She is designed to be a much more sympathetic character, someone who doesn't have a choice because of Wen Ruohan specifically. There is 1 piece of leverage and 1 villain, meaning that her motivations are a bit less nuanced. She wants to protect Wen Ning and that's that, but when not bound by Wen Ruohan's orders or risk to Wen Ning's life, she helps Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng practically as much as she can for someone who barely knows them (especially in the dancing statue episodes). What CQL is trying to show is that she is a good person, and committed to what the show recognises as good regardless of her circumstances.

Contrasting her with novel Wen Qing though, I think the latter shows a less dramatised but more conflicting dilemma as to whether or not she can be considered 'good', particularly by the other cultivators. Wen Qing is Wen Ruohan's favourite niece, who respects her deeply for her vast knowledge and skills. Unlike CQL Wen Qing, she is privileged in her position prior to the Sunshot Campaign and is arguably complicit in the Wen clan's wrongdoings because she never spoke out against them, which is what the Jin clan argued. This argument being used against her makes more sense here because of the benefits she recieved because of the Wen clan's abuse of power- even if she personally did nothing (which she calmly and clearly states to Wei Wuxian) and her branch "doesn’t have much blood on their hands", she benefitted from not being attacked or hit by the effects of war like all the other clans. When this was used against CQL Wen Qing though, the argument can automatically be dismissed as untrue. She was even locked in a DUNGEON for helping the Yunmeng siblings! And that's the conflict I want to draw attention to: where in CQL something is outright false or unreasonable, MDZS has a point that can be argued for and against with no real black-or-white conclusion.

If you were Wen Qing and you could either retain a comfortable position of privilege or lose everything to be tortured by your uncle, it's obviously more favourable to choose the former regardless of how you feel about the war! Especially if both your AND your brother's lives hinge on it! It's not a matter of the greater good: the fact is, Wen Qing's main priorities were being fulfilled in her position, and it's not like anyone was going to greet her with open arms on the other side, so did she really do anything wrong? I'd say she didn't, but that doesn't mean she wasn't voluntarily standing by as the other clans suffered as opposed to being threatened or locked up.

2: Considering some possible implications of Wei Wuxian saving the 'Dafan Wen'

CQL Wen Qing is absolved of any potential blame by making her initially morally grey actions explained away by being threatened and thus controlled by the villain. Similarly, CQL sets her family apart from the rest of the Wens by having them live on a different mountain and be treated poorly by the main Qishan Wen under Wen Ruohan. There is now a whole group of Wens who are 'special', effectively, for also suffering under the hand of the main Wen clan as much as the other clans- arguably more. This makes the treatment of the Dafan Wen one that is misunderstood, one that shows their allies (who saved them from Wen Ruohan's rule) becoming their enemies SOLELY by virtue of the Wen family name, and that is why Wei Wuxian protecting them is so important in CQL. Which isn't necessarily bad for a message, but one that is way less nuanced.

Wei Wuxian's complexity suffers from this- in the novel, I would argue a much more prominent reason he saves Wen Qing and the others are because Wen Qing and Wen Ning helped him in the past and he both wants to and feels obligated to help them particularly. Furthermore, he is angry that his personal wartime allies are having to go through this. Running off to the Burial Mounds was not on his radar exactly until he met Wen Qing again. It was partly due to his moral compass but partly due to his personal ties. However, if the Dafan Wen as a whole are fully victims and were never villains, then protecting them becomes a matter of righteousness at its core. Anyone complaining about it is being completely unfair to them and Wei Wuxian, and are just straight-up wrong. There's a difference between being ignorant and being wrong- where in MDZS the other clans show ignorance (definitely misguided but you see why argue what they do), in CQL the other clans are just wrong (come on, the peaceful Wen offshoot living on a whole different mountain can't possibly be unheard of by ANYONE at the banquet that night Wei Wuxian threatened Jin Zixun).

In CQL, one could also argue there's no room for Wei Wuxian to just-- not save the Wen siblings. They were some level of friends by that point, the Wen siblings had saved Wei Wuxian time and time again (even from a dog!) and their theoretically unproblematic clan had treated him well too. Him wanting to save them aligns his personal attachment to them with their 'goodness', making it impossible to not save them. In MDZS, Wei Wuxian both knows the Wen siblings less and does not have any special sense of justice attached because of their seperate branch, even if they didn't commit war crimes. This adds new dimensions to his reasons to protect the clan- even if he is protecting them out of care and justice, it shows Wei Wuxian's willingness to do anything for people if he believes he owes it to them. It also shows his willingness to help these specific Wens because of that, and his decision becomes less about justice for all Wens, as the only reason he is protecting these Wens over any other Wens is about Wen Qing and Wen Ning. It's not that these Wens were being subjugated by Wen Ruohan (they likely received similar benefits to Wen Qing) and thus deserved to be protected as 'good people', but that they were A) currently powerless and B) in the same group with and/or related to Wen Qing and Wen Ning. The unspoken implication of there being other Wens out there undergoing brutal treatment for remaining silent prior to the Sunshot Campaign is realistic and shows Wei Wuxian to be limited in who he has the capacity to protect and why he would protect them. It's never as simple as justice. I would argue that making the Burial Mounds Wens representative of regular Wens adds to the impact of Wei Wuxian's decision as a difficult one, and one much harder for the other clans to forgive.

Here's an alternate way to consider the implications. If the 'Dafan Wen' don't exist, then Wei Wuxian's decision is less about how 'good' the Wen clan (or any branch of it) are as a whole, and more about how unethical any Wens, Dafan or not, are being treated by the other clans. However, Wei Wuxian is 1 man with his own priorities and when he chooses who to protect, he chooses the affiliates of those who he knows were willing to help him rather than making any huge statement about unethical treatment of prisoners of war. He slaughtered many Wens on the battlefield after all, and he isn't about to save EVERY Wen who never helped him- this isn't feasible anyways and I feel like it also actively avoids the 'Wei Wuxian is the most righteous person ever' route it could've gone down.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------(DISCLAIMER:) It is important to note though that what crimes were committed by which Wen sect cultivators is an incredibly difficult topic to unravel. We know only some Wen sect cultivators were imprisoned due to their involvement in the war, but some innocent ones (who were initially free-roaming) like Wen Ning's group were forcefully taken too by cultivators like Jin Zixun facing no punishment or attention for doing so. I assume the latter happens a lot, and they were being treated like prisoners and labourers (as Granny Wen was) even if they were supposedly free-roaming before. None of the guards were surprised and referred to new Wen sect cultivators being sent there everyday- I feel like innocent or guilty in the war stops being a question. So we have all these questions about how fair is their treatment prisoners of war AND their treatment of other Wen sect cultivators. Much of said treatment isn't gone into detail as well, because I doubt the Jin clan or anyone else is particularly honest about it, and Wei Wuxian's own opinion on this is never physically said.

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3: The moral solution

What I'm getting at, in this roundabout way, is that in CQL there is an easier moral solution: the Dafan Wen tried to help the other clans as much as they could and were being threatened by the main Wen clan, therefore they should be protected despite their name. The other clans argue they're Wens and thus should not be protected, but they're not like the normal Wens- they're different and peaceful. It is clear: the good action is to protect the good people. It's almost a cop-out from showing that just because someone was benefited by or on the side of the villain by choice does not make them necessarily evil or anything (and certainly doesn't warrant punishing them the same way their higher-ups tortured you). This also immediately places the Dafan Wen and Wei Wuxian on the side of 'good' while placing the main Wen clan and anyone trying to actively argue for the murder of the Dafan Wen on the side of 'wrong' (like Nie Mingjue- not necessarily evil but definitely wrong).

Wei Wuxian is the ultimate hero character for standing up for what is right because it is right, as opposed to a character who isn't always able to fulfil that. Wei Wuxian's cultivation is also changed in CQL so as to not involve any genuine resurrection or control of the dead (in ghost form or otherwise). This softens the outrageous or grave aspects of what he actually did, and once again removes an aspect of his actions that can be viewed as morally wrong in any way. In my opinion atleast, MDZS is a lot harder to interpret in 1 specific way compared to CQL because these nuances within the Wen clan's and Wei Wuxian's actions exist, and often there is no right answer at all. While in MDZS Wei Wuxian is still morally ideal in the way he sticks to his guns (unlike SO many other characters), he doesn't get away with being blameless, but his CQL counterpart kind-of did nothing wrong.

4: (Unsurprisingly) Censorship makes a difference

This being said, I know CQL did their absolute utomost to translate this story to a live-action in the best way possible. Many of the changes they made (having the whole cast be involved since the very beginning, for instance) served the web series format in the best way possible, getting viewers invested in them from the get-go in this medium. Even these changes I've talked about may not really take a huge amount away from the story; after all, Wen Qing and Wen Ning's branch were by and large not involved in all the Sunshot campaign killing in both versions of the story. I am perhaps just making a mountain out of a molehill. However, I'd say the difference between their portrayals is still significant enough to change the connotations of the story as a whole.

The main conflict in the past was Wei Wuxian's decision to stand up for the residents of the Burial Mounds, and the involvement of the rest of the cultivation world in his demise. The context to this conflict being changed also changes the takeaway from this conflict.

My takeaway from these changes is that this is CQL fitting in with censorship guidelines to avoid depictions of moral greyness or any seeming lack of righteousness in the 'good guys'. I'm no genius on censorship guidelines and I am not Chinese, so I'm going off of my limited somewhat-academic and online forum research, but any content "transgressing social morality" (wording taken from here) is prohibited.

A lot of people online who are opposed to CQL's changes regarding this are angry about the idea of villains needing to be hands down the main evil, and I understand. Even though I knew it was going to happen, I really was disappointed getting to the end of CQL where they go "Su She was playing the flute all this time! He was the one who got Jiang Yanli killed!" I appreciate that CQL only decided to really engage with this at the very end and not embellishing Jin Guangyao's role in Wei Wuxian's demise even more. Without watching the last 2 episodes, it was almost (key word: almost) as if they hadn't had to censor the original death scene at all. I also do think though, that the censorship of 'heroes' goes more unnoticed when talking about this show. The censorship in CQL of Wei Wuxian's morally grey actions or fatal mistakes for example, like by not having him inadvertently cause Jiang Yanli's death. There's also CQL showing him repeatedly talking about how he wants to stand with justice with Lan Wangji (which I'm pretty sure doesn't happen in the books), just to hone in on how righteous they consistently are. Referring to Jiang Yanli's death, when Wei Wuxian sticking to his personal code of justice has consequences that betray what he wanted to happen, it isn't easy anymore for him to be a hero. His decisions are harder- he didn't have his cultivation under control after all no matter how much he wanted to, he wasn't blameless no matter how well-intentioned his actions were. Like Wei Wuxian, I believe Wen Qing and her branch of the Wen clan are also censored by having them as part of the different Dafan Wen clan, again to show all of them as unquestionably good or blameless in the series when they aren't in the novel.

5: CQL, MDZS, and fan interpretation

Around when I was introduced to CQL (for which I can never thank you enough, @iliketodecompose), I remember being told told that the best way to watch CQL is as its own series as opposed to an adaptation of MDZS. I think this is a good way to perceive and love the series in light of its differences to the novel, because even little differences like these can change what the story says. Maybe some people agree with me and some think I'm reading too much into it / have misinterpreted the series entirely, in which case I'm glad to hear alternate opinions or justifications, but I do not want to engage with "you're 100% wrong about this piece of fiction" comments. Opinions about the clarity of how MDZS is meant to be interpreted range far and wide; there are bound to be whole groups of people who disagree with me for several reasons but that's just how it goes. Having looked into other people's opinions across the internet, I've expanded my horizons to other interpretations as well. I don't think we have to be bound to a single interpretation; I've found myself agreeing with many people's arguments even if they partially disagree with or come in from a different angle than my own.

In conclusion...even if I lost the plot a bit in the middle there, I hope I've been able to justify my point of view here as to why I'm not a fan of the idea of Wen Qing's branch being an identifiably different branch to the rest of the main Wen clan. Peace-!

I do not blame this Character for this event. However, I understand why this other character blames them for it, and they are allowed to feel that way.

These two sentences can very easily exist, while the character being blamed is also a victim.

For instance, I will never blame Lan Xichen for all the shit that Jin Guangyao did while using him as a shield. The key point is using him. He was used, manipulated, lied to. Lan Xichen is one of Jin Guangyao's many victims. At the same time, I cannot take malice if Nie Huaisang blames Lan Xichen for Nie Mingjue's death. That was his brother. I don't expect anyone to be rational when it comes to their sibling. That was the only family he had left. Nie Huaisang can blame whoever he wants for his brother's death. He probably also blames himself for not seeing sooner. He's also probably relieved that he was able to protect Lan Xichen from sharing the same fate as his brother. If Nie Huaisang wants to blame and hate Lan Xichen, I don't think he should be called out for it. For some reason, everyone can agree on this and lots of people blame Lan Xichen even though he was a victim.

When it comes to the Jiang clan incident, nothing about that was Wei Wuxian's fault. He didn't do anything with the intension of hurting his adopted family. He did a very good thing, he saved many lives and protected many people. No one should get punished for that, and it's argued that the Wen clan just used his actions as an excuse to raid the Lotus Pier. Excuse or no excuse, it is also perfectly understandable if Jiang Cheng wants to blame him for the incident (Except that he doesn't. What makes Jiang Cheng snap is what happened with Yanli). If Jiang Cheng feels cheated out of his home because of Wei Wuxian it's perfectly understandable. No one thinks reasonably when they lose their whole home in one night. This doesn't erase the fact that Wei Wuxian IS 100% a victim. If Jiang Cheng feels like he is Wei Wuxian's victim, it is no surprise. Yet on this, everyone disagrees. "Jiang Cheng is a horrible person. Wei Wuxian is a kind person. So Jiang Cheng bad. Jiang Cheng doesn't get to blame Wei Wuxian for actions Wei Wuxian had no control after." Blame isn't rational. Not when it comes to the people you love. Wei Wuxian loved that family and that clan like they were extensions of himself and Jiang Cheng felt the same. Jiang Cheng had to live in that ghost town with ghost memories. Wei Wuxian builds himself a new home.

I'm sorry that I just can't see Jiang Cheng as the complete villain if he ever blamed Wei Wuxian for that incident. (And he didn't. He only compiled that into the list in adulthood because he needed extra reasons to hate his brother. Hating him was easier than admitting that he loved him. Living with lost love is so much harder. Lan Wangji knows that first hand.)

What if the wen sibs where planning to overthrow their father and asked NMJ for help since he was know for his hate on WRH and he agreed, then tried to get their cousins to side on them with promise of safety for the dafan wen an WN so WQ slowly started to poison WRH and the wen sibs starts to gather the wen disciples against WRH, then WX send WC over at QHN while making WRH believe he was kidnapped alongside WLJ and then WLJ was also helping them with Schemes since she was pretty smart herself on scheming, then some shenanigans happen which ended up with WC falling In love with a nie cousin named NZH and befriended MY and NHS along the way

little heartbreaking detail I just realized from mdzs donghua- the Wens in the labor camp were all wearing Wen robes. The guards would never give them such a thing, considering that they were trying to get rid of the Wen identity entirely. They probably hadn't changed since they were brought there.

Wen Xu

He appeared in The Untamed but not in the animated (I think). Here’s an attempt of drawing Wen Xu based on the show’s art style.

Wen Ying: If Wei Wuxian was a Wen.

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Wei Wuxian was found in yilling by the lesser branch of the wen clans, barely clinging to the intergraty of the overbearing Wen Clan. They were almost ostracised and left to fend for themselves.

Under Wen Qing and Wen Ning, both younger siblings aimed to make their circumstances better, until fourth uncle brought in their new ward from the street.

These three became siblings and grew up together and Wei Wuxian was able to bring attention to the smaller branch of the clan by his sheer talent.

With a strong golden care and talent in archery that can rival any other gathers the attention of Wen Ruohan.

Wei Wexian was a promising disciple, he climbed the ranks and even gained the trust to Wen Ruohans projects of trying to control a beast core. The Wen clan leader even encouraged Wei Wuxians obsession with Demonic Cultivation. He even trusted Wei Wuxian to go on the retreat hosted by the Lan clan along with the other sects, Wen ning, Wen Qing and his son were pretty much only there as ordered, while Wei Wuxian was tasked to memorise everything about Cloud Recess for a future attack and to get any information and closley kept secrets of the Lans sect.

He was Wen Ruohans most trusted spy.

Because of his demonic cultivation, Wei Ying was able to push most of the limits, one such ability was able to gain insight into the future he calls Demonic cultivation. He hops onto his own soul and projects insight to his future self and saw what would happen if he followed Wen Ruohan blindly.

He saw his future, the burial mounds, the desturction of the Wens including his maritial siblings deaths and strangely, the attention of Lan wangi kissing him blind-folded?

It shocked him out of the divination and he puked blood, resentment energy has a temperment on the body. Wei Wuxian needed a plan.

His Master would fall to the hands of a spy. Yao Guangyao.

He could easily take his place, Yao Guangyao would destroy all of the sects, and weaken them just to save his own reputation. He could take his place and his own plot. But unlike Yao Guangyao he had people to protect, the wens.

And his future they all discriminated against the Wens even after and were overally cruel to his branch that raised him along with his maritial siblings.

It's what drew him to demonic cultivation and tainted his own core to protect his own. He's going to have to be different...

If he starts with Lotus Pier and has the Wens stationed to protect them he could barter to be the man to create the supservery office instead of Wen Ruohans useless son to escalate things.

Lotus pier would be the base that could turn the tide against Wen Ruohan.

He bit his lip, it would be too late for Cloud recess but he'd already given the information by now.

Working as a spy, killing Yao Guangyao after he freed Lan Xichen and working as the spy giving intel to the Sects. It was working smoothley...too Smoothly.

It wasn't until he worked with Golden core-melting hand and accidently experimented with Demonic Cultivation trying to broaden the generals 'range' he purposfully inverted the wave destroying the general in the process.

Wei Wuxian was getting away with too many mistakes and Wen Ruohan had lost his patience. He attacked Wei Wuxian who barely escaped with his life and had Xue Yang [who previously worked with Yao Guang] to take over Wei Yings work.

Beaten blodied and blue he crawled towards yilling, he had to get to Lotus Pier and warn them he collapsed pulling his robes together and it began to rain and rolled his eyes skyward.

He was so unlucky no matter which life he was in!

Until the rain stopped, he opened his eyes and balked to see Lan Zhan staring down at him coldly.

Wei Ying opened his mouth then shut it.

If the second jade could help him get to lotus pier then he could turn this around.

the wen clan "like the sun" everyone about the wen clan "even the sun sets at some point" the wen clan "i live in greenland where it only sets for an hour" everyone about the wen clan: .....

(source: kuaikan manhua, ch. 201)

I'm also really emotional about the Wen clan here.

Fourth Uncle (??? maybe): Everything's fine now! That'll do! That'll do!

Maybe Fourth Uncle, maybe a different Wen: A-Ning is awake!

Like these people were literally under attack just moments ago, but their priority is to spread the word that Wen Ning has regained his conscience. They've all been waiting for this moment, and they're so excited 😭.

Also, who are these Wens in the second panel just casually strolling up with farming equipment after their home was just under attack!? Where were you guys? Did you just come back? Where did you come back from? Y'all can't have gone far from the little village. Did WWX already invent headphones? Did you not hear the terrified screaming? Were you not aware your home was just under attack? How are you two so unphased!? (Sorry... Random tangent induced by misc. details in the background.)

Work was slow today and i got my trainee attending calls so she can practice. This was made in between questions and directions.

Ive been in a wrh mood and it had been a while since i made traditional art. The eyes are red as a point of color but... adjusting things on my phone is hard and contrast killed the color. Sad.

Hi

This is something I have seen more on Twitter threads fics. what do u think of wenwwx raised with wen xu wen chao ect. who also wen ruhan strongest solder has killed multiple small sects but draws a line with the lan cuz they’re innocent. And lwj still falls in love 😭

Hi Anon, good morning to you.

Uh... to be polite and reasonable as possible, I kinda hate those types of fics. I find that Wei Wuxian is incredibly out of character and off, that the tyranny of the Wen clan is treated as valid and reasonable and not at all, y'know, tyrannical and it misses why Wangxian fall for each other, which springs from a shared strength of character and morals that a Wen!WWX raised with Wen Xu and Wen Chao almost always lacks.

I'm glad the people on twitter thread fics are having fun, but for me the premise is flawed from the start and relies on several assumptions of character on Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji's part that just don't work for me.

I have been sold on the possibility of him being adopted by an outer branch of the family like Wen Yuan's, even Wen Qing's family, where it is clear that their morals do still exist and he can grow up to be his bright, shining self, but I could never enjoy a Wen!WWX who was raised with a tyrant and his terrible sons. It actually sounds worse for him than Lotus Pier and that's saying something.

in hindsight, it boggles me people took so long to figure out there are in fact FIVE shards of Yin iron, not four

I mean yeah, cardinal points and all (four representing death, too), but consider

FIVE CLANS with a looong history of not trusting each other, and fighting for dominance and several petty reasons. 

would you really trust them with four shards of the most dangerous weapon ever built? to divide them and hide them in secret locations?? what, do you involve all the clans in hiding every shard? or give away four for secrecy and leave one of them clans out? 

of course not. you shatter it in five pieces and trust each clan to hid it as well as they can, never disclosing the locations other than saying it’s a place full of spiritual power to keep the radioactive thing in check. and trust nobody’s coming to sniff around

(except the Lan do, of all people)

- Jiang and Wen Siblings

Two birds of a feather

Say that they're always gonna stay together

But one's never going to let go of that wire

He says that he will

But he's just a liar

- Nie siblings

Two birds on a wire.

One tries to fly away and the other

watches him close from that wire

He says he wants to as well

But he is a liar.

- Lan siblings

Two birds on a wire.

One says c'mon and the other says "I'm tired".

The sky is overcast and I'm sorry.

One more or one less.

Nobody's worried.

Ok but this is making me rethink everything in my life.