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tardxsblues · 11 months

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I will die, and no one else here, or anywhere, will suffer. What about me? If there was something I could do about that, I would. I guess we're both just going to have to be brave.

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project-sekai-facts · 4 months

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How are we feeling about ensekai’s emu3 translation!!! (I’m mad)

(if you remember the 3 whole posts i made when asahi got de-gayed on EN you'll know i am mad too and that this is probably going to get long)

i don't like to be too cynical but it was so obvious that they were going to change that line, i had a feeling since the event first released on JP and after the incident with Asahi where I went through and tracked down multiple other examples of EN removing queer subtext it became clear to me that in no way shape or form was "emu-chan really loves nene-chan" making it to EN without getting changed. what i didn't expect was them changing Nene's line after Luka's comment, which actually makes this whole situation far worse than many of their other instances of toning down queer subtext.

for anyone who isn't aware of what happened, in chapter 5 of the current Emu event, there's a scene where Nene, Rui and the Virtual Singers are talking about what would cheer Emu up. The vsingers all talk about how much Emu loves spending time with Nene, leading to the following exchange

If you look for them, any fan TL of this scene will be something similar to this:

Luka: ...Fufu. Emu-chan really loves Nene-chan, doesn't she? Nene: Th-that's nothing special...

EN's official translation is this:

So what's the issue? I'll start with Luka's part. In the original text, she uses the word daisuki, which can mean to "like a lot" or "love". It's a word you will see frequently in the idol/idol-adjacent genre of games, due to its ambiguity in that it can be read as either platonic or romantic when used towards a person, and often will be used in ambiguous situations so that it's harder to confirm the writers' intentions either way. so here, fans of the emu/nene ship could view the fact that emu loves spending her time with nene as more on the romantic side, but people who don't like the ship could view it as platonic and move on.

while they didn't translate daisuki directly, Luka's line still works, and still contains the ambiguity that works as ship tease in the original text. it's a perfectly fine localisation that still conveys the original intent. despite that, there is something to be said about EN's consistent refusal to translate daisuki as love in most instances when it's not used on An/Kohane (but then again, EN has literally teased An/Kohane on their twitter account so is it all that surprising?).

Here's some examples:

Aibou no koto ga daisuki de / he loves his partner -> he cares about his partner very much (The Power of Unity chapter 7 when Kaito is comparing Arata to Akito and Toya)

HARUKA-CHAN, DAISUKI DAYOOOO!!! / HARUKA-CHAN, I LOOOOOVEEE YOU!!! -> You're the best!!! (Dear Me, As I Was Back Then chapter 4 when minori is at an ASRUN concert. this one isn't actually that great of a localisation)

Honachan no koto daisuki dakara. Kore de iinda yo. / I love Honachan, so this is fine. -> I want what's best for her. And this is it. (Leo/need main story chapter 14 after Saki tells Honami she won't bother her anymore)

Minna daisuki de - taisetsuna tomodachi na no / I love them all - they're my dearest friends -> They're all amazing, and very dear to me. (Leo/need main story chapter 17. this isn't good either)

What's particularly amusing about that last one is that there's a second official translation for it that I assume was done by JP staff (since EN never promoted doing the Journey to Bloom subs like they did back when they provided subs for Petit SEKAI) that actually keeps the word daisuki as love.

Yeah. I love all my friends - and they mean the world to me.

It's a better localisation than the official EN team one.

Questionable localisation choices aside, Luka's line is fine and is actually in line with the original. The issue with this localisation very much lies with Nene's part, because that is an entirely new line.

In the original text, Nene's "that's just normal" or "that's nothing special" or however you choose to TL it, is meant to be her questioning Luka's statement, since all the things that the other vsingers said that Emu liked were pretty normal things like going shopping and playing video games with nene. To Nene, these things are normal activities for them to do together, so she gets embarrassed by the fact that Luka concludes from that information that Emu loves Nene. When I dissect it like that I think you can really tell what the writers were going for here lol.

"That's just us being friends" does still convey the idea that Nene thinks these activities aren't anything out of the ordinary and she isn't sure why the vsingers are picking these out as some of Emu's favorite things to do, but it's very different from the original line. "But those are just normal things we do together" is something I just came up with on the spot, but it's a lot closer to the original text and still conveys the same meaning. The fact they changed the line to "that's just us being friends" is, honestly, not even subtle that they're covering up queer subtext. The original scene was very clearly written in as ship tease, and EN mentioning "friends" for no reason, especially since the word nor anything close to it was not used in the original, is instantly a red flag because it's like the go-to for queerbaiting and censorship. This was intentional. There was no need for them to specify that the relationship is platonic, Luka's part is ambiguous for a reason so that fans can view it how they like.

Just to top all this off, here's Rin's original line just before that Luka+Nene interaction:

Oh, and! And! She said that playing games with Nene-chan is also super fun!

And here's Rin's line from the official EN translation:

That's not the same thing, but even more weirdly, the incorrect part (super fun->really loves) is a correct translation for the part changed in Luka's line. So, they can do it, they are willing to say "really loves", just not in the right places. Maybe because Rin's part is less personal than Luka's part? It's strange actually, this isn't the first time they've done this either. Off the top of my head I can think of an example from Shiho's Varied Kindness 2* story where they translated the word "suki" as really loves, despite that being much stronger than the original word used (and the fact that daisuki is used a lot in the Leo/need stories and it's incredibly rare if not entirely unknown for them to translate it correctly).

It's not subtle that they're trying to remove implications of the characters possibly being queer, they did it in curtain call and they did it in walk on and on, and multiple times before then too. And considering some of the content in this year's events and the amount of times they say daisuki alone, it's gonna keep happening. honestly i hate the fact that i keep trying to justify the translations in these posts. these translations are intentional. what happened in the curtain call translation back in october says enough. when a character who uses explicitly romantic language towards another guy passes as a straight character in the translation you know they're doing it on purpose.

oh and once again, it's only the EN server that has this issue. The scene in question was translated almost word-for-word on the TW and KR servers.

read fan translations. they're better than what EN gives us and people put a lot of effort into them.

#since the EN translation qualifies as a leak i am scheduling this to post when the event drops #asks #mod talks #i'm going to leave this in the tags because i don't want to make the post any longer #but something that's been really annoying to see recently on twt has been the gradual uptick of players saying that there's no queer #characters/subtext/etc in the game outside mizuki being trans. and i do wonder if EN's consistent habit of toning down #or outright removing moments of heavy subtext and other more ambiguous shiptease moments has anything to do with it.#that or people live under a rock because even EN keeps most of An and Kohane's relationship intact and there's still plenty of #moments that were impossible to edit or tone down due to being plot relevant or being part of longer interactions that wouldn't make sense #if part of it was changed. like the An wedding event.#eh maybe people are just ignorant.#but anyway it does bug me immensely that EN-only players are getting a censored version of the game. it's 2024. staff can do better.#also like i mentioned in the part about rin. they /add in/ things occasionally. so why the hell are they removing so much?

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maggiecheungs · 7 months

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—where we belong (2019) dir. lek kongdej jaturanrasamee

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thefreshprinceofjunes · 1 year

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the more i rewatch the scene with sora and kairi exchanging paopu fruit in kh3, the more im baffled by how many fans cite it as the ultimate proof s/k is now canon

like

right off the bat sora wonders about riku

and then looks confused/concerned when kairi suggests the idea

its only after kairi clarifies that she just wants to be a part of his life ‘no matter what’ that he agrees

no matter what? what is the ‘no matter what’? if he finds someone else?

to me it reads more like her wanting them to have some kind of relationship, regardless of the choices sora makes in the future. even if that relationship isnt romantic

her adding on ‘that’s all’ further indicates she notices soras concern, and wants him to know what she really meant by exchanging the fruits. which is that she just wanted them to remain in each others lives.

and of couse, the original japanese dialogue for this scene is even more blatantly platonic:

“This charm is to keep us from getting separated again.”

(its also been stated they recorded two versions of the scene: one where they exchange the fruit, and one where they dont. and didnt tell the VAs which they were gonna use. which seems weird if its suppose to be a pivotal scene IRT a s/k romance?)

like??? as a whole the scene feels not like the beginning of a sora and kairi romance, but as a cap on their relationship and wrapping it up, so to speak.

theyve finally recreated their childhood cave drawing, and now they can move on from it. its like. idk. a bookend. not a new start.

if anything, it almost feels like a red herring, to draw you away from the idea of soriku endgame

and of course, theres the fact they didnt share just one, like in the legend that has been stated multiple times:

note the use of ‘one’, ‘it’, and ‘a paopu’

plus, the combined keyblade?

it doesnt have the paopu charm until they combine the two halves

you know, like splitting a single fruit in half???? to share it?????? like the legend says???????? HELLO????????????

#kingdom hearts #soriku #kh meta #ali's kh meta #long post #image heavy post #ship what you want im just saying #getting real fucking tired of people ignoring actual blatant canon #in favor of heteronormativity #esp when that canon seems to be implying THE EXACT OPPOSITE #like jfc can yall not really comprehend more than surface level text of media #esp in a series like kh filled to the BRIM with subtext #ETA: AW DANG for some reason tumblr left out the other screencap of sora being confused #i added it back in but obvs itll be missing from a few reblogs rip

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itwoodbeprefect · 1 year

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there should be WAY more movies that have a cowboy in black screaming crying on his knees in the horse pen because he just wants his stoner best friend so badly which is the emotional climax to a hopeful anti-gun narrative that also pauses for insane drum solos along the way but AT LEAST. at least we'll always have zachariah (1971)

#zachariah #if you're reading this then yes i AM gently nudging you to go watch this movie if it seems like your thing at all #it's good it's cute it's tragic it's funny. it's very queer and very weird and full of very good music. it has a happy end!!!#i'm just saying. a psychedelic anti-violence rock 'n roll electric western with HEAVY romantic queer subtext exists WITH US #CURRENTLY. IN THIS WORLD #and somehow people are not constantly screaming about it. genuinely what's up with that #*#zachariah (1971)

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3080ti · 11 months

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The Killer (1989), dir. John Woo

#the killer #喋血雙雄 #john woo #film #**#subtext is heavy

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theluckywizard · 4 months

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A Sense of Duty

This is a self-contained fic of a tense conversation between Commander Cullen and warrior Garrett Hawke. It pairs with Chapter 65: The Return of my long fic In the Shattering of Things, but I've written in the context so anyone could enjoy a good Hawke v. Cullen throwdown in the Inquisition era.

Summary: As commander of the Inquisition forces, Cullen needs to have a chat about tactics and protocol with his old acquaintance, famed warrior Garrett Hawke after spurious reports come in from Crestwood. The mountain of history between them and the salacious rumors about Hawke and Inquisitor Rose Trevelyan make this conversation more intense than he expected.

Excerpt under the cut 👇

“I’m sure by now you’re familiar with the Inquisitor’s background,” he begins.

Hawke nods, clutching a hand over his shaggy, unkempt hair to keep the gusts from claiming it.

“I’ll start by saying that she has my full support. But it can’t be understated how inexperienced she is in combat situations.”

“I’m well aware, Cullen,” says Hawke, reaching for his given name for the first time in several years.

Cullen snorts softly before continuing. “I know you’re a talented warrior. I know you fought in the King’s Army. Your accomplishments are well-known. But the Inquisitor—”

“Rose. You can say her name,” answers Hawke, the interruption cutting Cullen so deeply that he feels sure that Hawke must be aware of what had passed between him and her. He continues before the chafe of the words ignites his resentment into anger.

“The Inquisitor needs steady combat guidance. Not stunts and wild improvisation.”

“You, Ser, lack imagination,” says Hawke, stopping to look at him.

“So I’ve been told,” he says drily, not taking the bait. He continues walking. “I don’t suppose I could impress upon you the importance of her staying alive.”

“This is about Caer Bronach, isn’t it? What were we going to do? Sit with our thumbs up our arses waiting for your troops to arrive?”

“This is not the place for unorthodox tactics. The Inquisition must be above reproach.”

“Above reproach while the pyres burn brightly with Inquisition bodies?”

“What are you suggesting?”

“I’m suggesting that using the undead as fodder spared Inquisition bodies from serving as the same. Surely you’ve been there before. Front line meat to absorb the initial onslaught. I’ve been there. Staring down a darkspawn horde flanked by the barely trained, quaking in their mail and soiling themselves. I’ve seen your army. You don’t have the men to spare right now.”

“You understand what I’m trying to say here,” says Cullen, tempering his exasperation.

“I can appreciate that a man in your position would rather her not attempt to raid keeps using corpses. Even I can appreciate the publicity challenges that presents. But don’t pretend that by the book is safer or most effective every time. How many times were your hands tied by rules when you could have saved lives? I was the person the Templars hired when they couldn’t act.”

“Exactly. Your capers have their uses, Hawke, but involving the public face of this organization will have consequences,” says Cullen. He moves in for the meat of his grievance, bracing himself for a fight. “And it’s not just about that. You know it’s not. The Inquisitor was injured.”

Read the rest here!

DAFF Tag List

#Garrett Hawke #Cullen Rutherford #In the Shattering of Things #Cullen vs. Hawke #Fight! Fight! Fight!#tactical argument with heavy subtext #Hawke x Trevelyan #Cullen x Trevelyan #Rose Trevelyan #Dragon Age Fan Fiction #POV Cullen Rutherford #Commander Cullen #dragon age inquisition #Lots of History Here

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principiumindividuationis777 · 2 months

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#Helena Bonham Carter #Bellatrix Lestrange #Emma Watson #Hermione Granger #Harry Potter #girl to girl #subtext #heavy breathing #hair

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clementine-kesh · 7 months

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> quark is canonically into people* in positions of authority who wear uniforms

> this was stated by him while kira was threatening him with unspeakable violence

> odo wear a uniform, is in a position of authority and threatens quark with unspeakable violence

> mfw

*women, technically, but shhh, plus goo gender is complicated

#quodo is basically canon tbh the subtext is so heavy

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seventeenlovesthree · 2 months

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I like those comic strips where someone met other version of themselves in different stage of life, the "woah, I will be like that/I was like that?" moment, which two version of Taichi meeting himself that will ge the most reaction? the 01 elementary? 02 middle school? 03 tri version? the kizuna version? also, do you think Taichi will fight himself ? ( because i've seen fanarts that show Yamato would )

Weeeeell... I personally tend to joke around a lot about "punching" being Taito's love language for each other - I'm actually pretty much like Daisuke in that regard...

And sometimes, they frustrate me so much that I would like to punch them myself. However, all light-hearted jokes aside, I know comics like that too and unless they actually ARE meant in a light-hearted way, I don't agree with them. Because 02 already made a point about them needing to get over the past - and while Tri onwards still loved to drag out these "conflicts" between them, I am sure that they would never punch their past selves. Their younger selves might be baffled at what they may become... But even young!Taichi (who already faced a younger version of himself in Piccolomon's pocket dimension) would understand that things won't be getting easier for him. At least to some degree.

I still believe that the stageplay made a strong point in regards to Taichi mourning his younger self, scolding himself for his cowardice and indecisiveness - and I will never grow tired of recommending watching it. It had the perfect course (and maybe could have been the perfect end to the entire timeline if they had committed to it).

(On a different note - I am still a fan of the multiverse theory and, while I wouldn't want them to punch each other, I'd find the canonization of something like this in an anime setting hilarious.)

#my two cents #meta #taichi yagami #tai kamiya #digimon adventure tri stageplay #digimon adventure tri stage play #also ignore me for thriving in the heavy taishirou subtext in the stageplay because LOOK AT THE FRAMING HERE #the person who wrote this BINGED the entirety of adventure and 02 and then just wrote the perfect continuation #long post #personal

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earlgodwin · 4 months

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from supernatural to the borgias pipeline is so real gotta stan 10/10 toxic codependency and fucked up siblings dynamics with loads of parallels and symbolisms

#i'm actually having a ball in this bitch #the heavy ass subtext between sam and dean was crazyyyy #“you know sam and dean winchester are psychotically irrationally erotically codependent on each other right?'”#likeeee!?!?!#also the siren episode omfg real fucked up incestuous shit #and the borgias....bro where do i begin...#we have cesare and lucrezia who have such an incestuous narcissistic love and ces's toxic devotion to her and he'd kill anyone for her #and then we have juan who actually wanna fuck both lucrezia and cesare but he got excluded from the incest polycule #inject these shows into my bloodstream fr #the borgias #i ain't tagging spn i don't want the trenchcoat angel stans to find this post lol #text post

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hudbannonarchive · 1 month

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idk if this sounds like a conspiracy theory but i think a lot of people assume dean didn't possess sam when he was a demon because the writers were just like stupid and lazy. and okay ultimately i agree BUT i think the framing usually implies that they never even considered it that's how oblivious they are to dynamic storytelling. and i disagree i think it's more likely they did think about having dean possess sam but ultimately understood there would be no way for them to come back from such a transgression given their lack of interest or ability (after a certain point in the show) to engage with the characters as people capable of making relationship-altering mistakes. i think this is obvious when you remember that s10 the demon dean season follows right behind s9 which had the whole possession kerfuffle with sam and gadreel. in that situation it's just dean facilitating sam's unwanted possession, and the show could barely come back from that (they had to alter the circumstances of the conflict to maintain the relationship) there's just no way they'd have the skill to write sam and dean out of such an obviously horrible transgression. i'd have liked to see them try tho.

#one of the worst aspects of spn fandom is people not understanding that a lot of the subtext they pick up on is intentional #which allows them to read the writers in worse faith than they even deserve #the people who work on supernatural understand that possession is an allegory for rape it's perfectly clear #that's kind of a heavy thing to bring into your brothers show especially 5 years out of its more solemn era #*

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chryblossomjjk · 1 year

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🚨fic announcement lmao🚨

hi friends!! there’s some confusion in my inbox so im just gonna make this my pinned post. the weekend will be posted on 3/17 !! ty for all the support, i hope it’s worth the wait!!

#also #pls note that this fic is extremely angsty like #v much so #and deals with v heavy subject matters (a lot of it is ambiguous and subtext but still!!)#ofc ill include everything in the warnings but #yeah lol

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stylestappen · 1 year

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i really really like how, amongst a myriad of other firecracking f1 occurences, sao paulo has also collectively plunged us deeper into the lestappen black hole. like i have NEVER seen so much content & lestappen breakdowns without a shared podium preceding it

#we really are about the mirrored narratives and heavy subtext here in this household huh #and i LOVE it it's delicious #literally the entire weekend gave 2012 destiel subtext in terms of storylines and parallel dialogue #it's like a gay little universe out there is WRITING their story honestly i never thought real life could be so?? poetic?#lestappen #f1 #max verstappen #charles leclerc

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booasaur · 2 years

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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds - 1x01

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snaillock · 10 months

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the fact niko’s favorite anime is madoka magica and his favorite manga is banana fish has GOT to mean something. like those specific two? together? that cannot be a coincidence. come on kaneshiro is he… you know… is he… one of those…?

#niko ikki #blue lock #bllk niko #the fact his favorite series are two drama filled shojos with heavy ass gay subtext #like ok niko

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