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atrenchcoatfilledwithbeees · 1 year

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Once more I need to be a massive school for good and evil movie hater. I feel like no one has acknowledged how tedros entire character has been wiped away and now he's just male in way of lesbian love intrest AND I HATE THAT.

Really stupid nitpick but wasn't this the medieval times why are they in victorian era clothing? I need to personally beat the wardrobe director with a pipe.

Also can people please like keep in mind that they are 13

Their decision making and the way they treat eachother lies heavily in that please ignore the movie where they look more like random college students.

What was the point in saying the whole you can't interact with eachother while they eat in the same dinning room 💀

Everytime I am reminded of this movie I begin to get the largest case of hateritis ever

Oh my god Tedros was so bland in the movie I literally forgot he was in it

They robbed my boy of every personality trait, every character flaw, his bullheadedness, him kicking beatrix’s bunny because she named it Teddy, his good test from Dovey that was drenched in red ink, his hatred and confusion over Agatha because she doesn’t fit within his narrow worldview

All of this was thrown aside in favour of making him this mind numbing my boring character. The average love interest in a ya novel no one will remember. The exchange of enemies to lovers for snarky sarcastic frenemies to lovers is infuriating to me.

I feel like with the wardrobe (and the set and the casting and the script and almost everything else) they went for aesthetics and luxury over actual consistency with the books. The time period is never explicitly mentioned in the books as far as I can remember but they literally had the Ever Never Handbook which had fully illustrated coloured images of the uniforms and the castles to go off of so there was no excuse for the poor costuming.

In terms of age the characters seem to be between 13 and 15. Though their exact age is never confirmed, they have to be below the maximum age of 16 as they would have been there for the reaping four years ago and, given how pure their souls are, they 100% would have been chosen. I prefer to think of them as like 14-15 because Tedros is described as having abs I think so he has to be at least around 15 and it would be weird if he liked a 13 year old. Also cuz of the description of Sophie having ‘long creamy legs’ feels weird if she’s too young. But you are correct: they have to be young- having adults play the characters makes their actions appear irrational instead of pretty normal given their ages. No one under the age of 18 acts rationally or maturely.

I will never not be a hater for this car crash of a movie

#Anon thanks for giving me an opportunity to chat shit about this movie #we can be haters together #sophie sge #sfgae #sge #agatha sge #agatha of woods beyond #tedros of camelot #Tedros sge #the school for good and evil movie #the school for good and evil #the school for good and evil books

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pinebambi · 7 months

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I've been reading the School for Good and Evil trilogy for the past week and I am just absolutely baffled by the books. I'm not certain if its bad writing or maybe I'm just not the target audience but Sophie is the most unsympathetic character I've ever read. Since the first book when Agatha and Sophie were introduced I was so confused on how the two could be friends. It seemed obvious to me that Sophie was a manipulative and mean friend to Agatha, and we were just being told they are friends without actually showing us why they are. Maybe thats the whole point, maybe Sophie is meant to be a bad friend and Agatha is just horribly naive because Sophie is her first real friend, but I'm on the third book now and it still feels like its pushing a narrative that Sophie can be Good and is someone you'd want to be around. She just seems like the most selfish, self-serving manipulative character I've ever seen written, and she's still convinced SHE deserves Tedros and that Agatha should be the one alone. Yet, I obviously have to be missing something because everytime i look for other opinions on these books It's people talking about Sophie and Agatha's friendship, so obviously there has to be some redemption for her , right? I've not yet finished the 3rd book yet, only having just reached the point where Agatha tells Tedros to go with Sophie alone for the next two days and I can only groan in annoyance because its like Agatha can't simply explain how she feels to Sophie. Honestly, I don't want to see Sophie redeemed. I want Agatha to finally tell her off and grow a backbone, but I know how unlikely that is. Sadly, I do want to see how the series will end, so I will be finishing this book and probably the next two as well, but I am losing my marbles. I'm really hoping i'll finish the third book and look back on this post and laugh at what I was missing, but i just dont know what they could add the would make me like Sophie's character

#the school for good and evil #the school for good and evil books #agatha sge #sophie sge #tedros sge #my reading thoughts

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saveme-storybrooke-potc · 1 year

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As someone who both read the books and watched the movie of The SGE I don't think the movie is bad like some say it is

#the school for good and evil #hort and sophie #tagatha #hophie #the school for good and evil books #the school for good and evil movie #the sge #netflix movies #soman chainani

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weaponizedducks · 2 months

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you know what i think kids/teen books do 'fantasy romance/fantasy books' way better than any of the adult fantasy books booktok raves about. i try and read some of them and 90 percent of the time its just smut and abusive relationships disguised as 'dark romance'. then i read books like Keeper Of The Lost Cities, The School for Good and Evil, Percy Jackson, Land of Stories, the Nevermoor series, that kind of thing, and they are all actually so amazing because they have fleshed out characters with flaws and an engaging plotline instead of just badly written romance. and when they do have romance it's well written and about the people rather than the tropes.

#anti booktok #six of crows is the only booktok book i have loved #this is not me being anti- smut #it's just when it's the only thing driving the plot it's bad #it should not be used as a plot device #anything by taylor jenkins reid i don't mean you you are beautiful #keeper of the lost cities #the school for good and evil #nevermoor #the land of stories #percy jackson #six of crows #anti sjm #anti coho #booktok #you know what i'm talking about #blue analyses things

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hana-loves-bumblebees · 2 years

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Me, reading your average children’s book series with teenage protagonists, aged 10-15ish: I wanna be just like them when I’m their age!! They’re living the life! I wish I could have a life full of adventures like them when I’m older!

Me, re-reading them as an adult: …those were children

#pjo #percy jackson #mcga #magnus chase and the gods of asgard #riordanverse #jkr #harry potter #school for good and evil #sge #soman chainani #and many others #rose by holly webb #ALL OF JACQUELINE WILSON’S BOOKS #jacqueline wilson #rick riordan

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doyouknowthischaracter · 3 months

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DO YOU KNOW THIS CHARACTER?

#dyktc polls #polls #august sader #the school for good and evil #soman chainani #category: books

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pinebambi · 7 months

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Ive started the 4th book of The School for Good and Evil series now, and while i am LOVING the world-building we are getting I am a wee bit disappointed that students we liked in the last books, like Kiko, have been permanently mogrified into animals. While Kiko hasn't been mentioned yet, they did mention another student who was now a newt. It just seems like such a cruel fate for 1/3 of all students who've ever attended the school. Maybe it will get addressed in the next books, as I've never read spoilers for this series, but I'm worried it wont be.

#bambis book thoughts #books #bookblr #the school for good and evil #the school for good and evil books #tsfgae #sophie sge #tedros sge #agatha sge #sge

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amistillreallyalive · 1 year

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Dovey: Call the kids, they're not listening to me

Lesso: I'm not their mom

Dovey: Just do it.

Lesso, to nevers: Okay nevers! Go back to your dorms

Nevers: [Immediately following like ducklings]

Dovey:

Lesso: no listen LISTEN I'm not their-

#charlize theron #dovesso #lady lesso #leonora lesso #professor dovey #clarissa dovey #dean of evil #the school for good and evil #dovey x lesso #kerry washington #lady leonora lesso #sge sophie #sge hort #sge agatha #sge books #theschoolforgoodandevil #sge #nevers

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wondereads · 1 year

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An Extended List of Retellings

It was recently Tell a Fairy Tale Day (02/26), so here's an updated and expanded list of retellings for all fairy tale- and folklore-obsessed readers!

*Key at the end of the post*

The Hazel Wood by Melissa Albert (Fairy Tale-esque)

Alice's grandmother is known for her collection of stories that has spawned a cult-like following, spawning plenty of fanatics to follow Alice and her mother around. But this new group is strange, weirder than the rest, and when they take Alice's mother, she must literally dive into the world of her grandmother's stories to save her. (YA, low fantasy)

Damsel by Elana K. Arnold (Fairy Tale-esque)

Ama remembers nothing. All she knows is that she was saved by Prince Emory from a vicious dragon. It seems she will be taken care of for the rest of her life as a pampered princess, but as she learns more about her new home, the more darkness seems to well up around the edges. *read trigger warnings* (NA, high fantasy)

The Frog Princess by E. D. Baker (The Frog Prince)

Princess Emeralda is about to be caught in an unfortunate engagement, but she finds an escape in a talking frog. A frog who claims he is a prince, a perfect excuse to escape a betrothal. What she doesn't expect is being turned into a frog herself with no clue how to change both of them back. (MG, high fantasy)

The Wide-Awake Princess by E. D. Baker (Sleeping Beauty)

Princess Gwen was tragically cursed to fall into a magical sleep, so when her younger sister, Annie, is born, she is given only one christening gift—the ability to resist any magic. When the curse comes true and Gwen falls asleep, Annie sets out to find her sister's true love and wake the kingdom again. (MG, high fantasy)

Peter and the Starcatchers by Dave Barry and Ridley Pearson (Peter Pan)

From an orphanage in London, Peter and his mysterious friend, Molly, arrive at a faraway island. There, pirates and adventures abound, but nothing is as exciting as a precious new substance that can cure wounds, give flight, and keep people young forever. (MG, low fantasy)

The Looking Glass Wars by Frank Beddor (Alice in Wonderland)

When Wonderland, land of dreams and imagination, undergoes a bloody coup, Princess Alyss Heart is forced to flee to the real world, taking on the name Alice Liddel. Years later, she is needed to win Wonderland back, but is it time for Alyss' imagination to be saved? (YA, low fantasy)

The Sisters Grimm by Michael Buckley (multiple)

Sabrina and Daphne Grimm have bounced from foster home to foster home before their formerly-unknown grandmother takes them in. She seems like everything two children could want, but Sabrina doesn't trust her. Not only does she serve outlandish foods and have an outrageous amount of locks on her house, but she seems to believe their town is full of fairy tale characters, all with mysteries that need solving. (MG, magical realism)

The School for Good and Evil by Soman Chainani (multiple)

Agatha and Sophie are best friends, but they couldn't be more different. Agatha is ugly and unpleasant and Sophie is pretty and kind, so when they're taken to the School for Good and Evil, it seems obvious who's Good and who's Evil. However, when the girl's places are switched, they must put things to rights. (MG/YA, high fantasy)

To Kill a Kingdom by Alexandra Christo (The Little Mermaid)

Lira is a vicious siren, known for her collection of prince's hearts. However, a serious mistake of hers leads the Sea Queen to transform her into a human, trapped until she can bring her the heart of Prince Elian. Lira is a practiced killer, but Elian is a trained hunter, and sirens are his prey of choice. (YA, high fantasy)

The Land of Stories by Chris Colfer (multiple)

Alex and Conner have had it rough since their father's death, but they find comfort in their grandmother's book of stories. When she leaves it to them on their birthday, they never expected for it to be a portal to another world. This world is full of all the fairy tales they know and love, but they're trapped there, and ways back are hard to come by. (MG, low fantasy)

Legendborn by Tracy Deonn (King Arthur)

In an attempt to move on after her mother's death, Bree attends an early college program. However, she starts to see things, things her friends can't, and she soon discovers a secret society on campus made up of the descendants of King Arthur and the Knights of the Roundtable. However, this group, the Legendborn, may be tied to Bree more than she knows. (YA, magical realism)

Midnight Robber by Nalo Hopkinson (Caribbean and Yoruba Mythology)

In a futuristic world modeled off of Afro-Caribbean history and mythology, criminals are sent to the world of New Half-Way Tree. No child has been sent before until Tan-Tan is taken by her father, who is on the run from the law. When Tan-Tan's experience takes a turn for the worse, she finds strength the figure of the Robber Queen from myth. *read trigger warnings* (adult, science fiction/fantasy)

Splintered by A. G. Howard (Alice in Wonderland)

Alyssa is a descendant of the famous Alice Liddel, but it's not all roses and tea parties. Madness runs in the family, and Alyssa has heard bugs and flowers speak to her since she was young. It's only when she's a teenager that she learns it's a curse, and the only way to free her family from it is to return to Wonderland and put the original Alice's mistakes to rights.

Stain by A. G. Howard (very loosely The Princess and the Pea)

Princess Lyra is destined to bring her kingdom, one of perpetual day, and their rival, a kingdom of perpetual night, together. However, when her wicked aunt steals her identity and casts her out, she loses her memories and is taken in by a witch from an enchanted forest. There, she lives in disguise, known as a young boy named Stain. (YA, fantasy romance)

Enchanted by Alethea Kontis (The Frog Prince)

Sunday is the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter, a powerfully magic number. Anything Sunday writes comes true, so she takes care to only write what has already happened. She finds someone to share those stories with in a talking frog near her home. Little does she know that the frog is an enchanted prince; specifically, the prince responsible for the death of her older brother.

Ella Enchanted by Gail Carson Levine (Cinderella)

Ella was given a gift at her birth from a fairy, but it's done nothing but make her life miserable. Forced to obey every direct order, Ella loathes her gift of obedience, especially when she is forced to deal with a demanding father and a horrible stepfamily. Ella takes it upon herself to track down the fairy who 'blessed' her with some help from her family's cook, Mandy, and the charming Prince Char. (MG, high fantasy)

Fairest by Gail Carson Levine (Snow White)

Aza is by no means the fairest of them all, but she has the unique gift to imitate others and throw her voice. In the kingdom of Ayortha, which values song above all else, it's an invaluable trait. One the new queen of Ayortha, Queen Ivi, plans to capitalize upon. Ivi lacks singing talent, so she hires Aza to help her deceive the kingdom, but how long can they keep up the charade? (MG, high fantasy)

The Princess Tales by Gail Carson Levine (multiple)

Six stories: The Fairy's Mistake (Diamonds and Toads), The Princess Test (The Princess and the Pea), Princess Sonora and the Long Sleep (Sleeping Beauty), Cinderellis and the Glass Hill (Cinderella), For Biddle's Sake (Rapunzel), and The Fairy's Return (The Golden Goose) (MG, high fantasy)

Ash by Malinda Lo (Cinderella)

Abused by her horrible stepmother, Ash finds solace in stories. Those stories seem to come to life when she encounters a faerie, and her wishes of being stolen away may finally be granted. However, Ash begins to doubt that course when she meets the king's huntress and she finds herself torn between two worlds. (YA, fantasy romance)

Unhooked by Lisa Maxwell (Peter Pan)

Gwendolyn has always thought her mother was crazy for thinking monsters were chasing them, but then she and her best friend are kidnapped. The place they're taken to, Neverland, is full of deception, and Gwen must find out how to get them both home and whole again. (YA, low fantasy)

Cinder by Marissa Meyer (Cinderella)

Cinder is a cyborg in a futuristic world ravaged by sickness and prejudice, but she scrapes by as a mechanic. One day, during a job for no one other than the prince, she discovers information that could tip the balance between the people of earth and the dreaded Lunars. (YA, science fiction)

The Squire's Tales by Gerald Morris (King Arthur)

A series retelling the tales of the Roundtable, beginning with Terence, an orphan who becomes squire to the famous Sir Gawain. Together, they must foil a plot against King Arthur as Terence discovers his own abilities. (MG/YA, historical fantasy)

Uprooted by Naomi Novik (Beauty and the Beast)

Agnieszka is forfeited by her village to the wizard known as the Dragon in exchange for his protection against the horrible Wood. She finds herself more of an apprentice than a servant, but the Wood is stirring, and it's up to her and the Dragon to drive it back. (NA, high fantasy)

Spinning Silver by Naomi Novik (Rumpelstiltskin)

Miryam has brought her family's moneylending business back from the brink of bankruptcy. All is going well until an ill-timed boast on the roads lures the attention of the king of the Staryk, fae-like creatures made of winter and obsessed with gold. But there's a bigger threat that threatens to consume humans and Staryk alike. (NA, high fantasy)

Queen of Hearts by Colleen Oakes (Alice in Wonderland)

Dinah has trained her whole life to become queen of Wonderland alongside her father, finally earning his love. However, out of the blue, her father brings home her half-sister, his illegitimate daughter. With conspiracies brewing, Dinah must hold onto her throne now that another candidate has entered the picture. (YA, high fantasy)

The Girl Who Fell Beneath the Sea by Axie Oh (Shim Cheong)

As their home is ravaged by storms and floods, the people of Mina's village sacrifice a young girl every year, hoping she may be the "true bride" of the sea god. One year, the offered girl is Shim Cheong, Mina's older brother, Joon's, beloved. In an effort to save her, Mina throws herself into the sea to find a fantastical world under the surface. (YA, historical fantasy)

Dorothy Must Die by Danielle Paige (The Wizard of Oz)

Amy is a friendless teenager from modern-day Kansas, so a surprise trip to the land of Oz would seem like a blessing. But this version of Oz is twisted, dark, and ruled by none other than the other girl from Kansas, Dorothy herself. (YA, low fantasy)

The Shadow Queen by C. J. Redwine (Snow White)

Lorelai is the crown princess, but she's also a fugitive. Ever since her kingdom was taken by a wicked queen, she and her brother have been forced to run for their lives. She and the queen share one quality, magic, but if Lorelai ever uses it, she'll be guiding the queen straight to her. (YA, high fantasy)

The Blood Spell by C. J. Redwine (Cinderella)

Blue is an aspiring alchemist, hoping to turn other metals into gold to help the people of her city. However, when her father tragically dies and a cruel woman seizes everything Blue knows, she has to turn to her childhood rival, Prince Kellan. Kellan has his own issues, such as a growing pressure to marry, but the worst is the disappearances that seem to rise in number every day. (YA, high fantasy)

Half Upon a Time by James Riley (multiple)

Jack the 13th is supposed to be a hero, save a princess. He thinks that isn't likely to happen until a 'princess' from our world literally falls into his arms. Soon, Jack realizes that this girl's grandmother can be none other than the famous Snow White, but she's been kidnapped, and it's up to Jack and the 'princess', Meg, to save her. (MG, low fantasy)

The Evil Queen by Gena Showalter (Snow White)

Everly lives the life of a normal teenager until she discovers she's not of this world. In this other land of magic, she's a part of a prophecy, one that mirrors the classic tale of Snow White. That would all be great if she weren't destined to become the story's villain, the Evil Queen. (YA, low fantasy)

Daughter of the Moon Goddess by Sue Lynn Tan (Chang'e)

Xingyin's mother, Chang'e has been imprisoned on the moon for years for stealing the Celestial Emperor's elixir of immortality. When Xingyin's magic flares and she is in danger of being discovered, she must flee the moon. She ends up in the Celestial Kingdom, where she works her way up, hoping to find a way to free her mother. (NA, high fantasy)

Breadcrumbs by Anne Ursu (The Snow Queen)

The Snow Queen made a mirror meant to show people the worst in the world, and when it shatters, a shard gets stuck in the eye of Hazel's best friend Jack. When the Snow Queen whisks him away, Hazel must travel through a treacherous, wintery forest to save him. (MG, low fantasy)

Malice by Heather Walter (Sleeping Beauty)

Alyce is the infamous Dark Grace, whose powers bring curses and misfortune, unlike her sisters, who can conjure gifts and beauty. She dreams of escaping the prejudiced Kingdom of Briar, but her growing powers and an involvement with the royal family could keep her trapped forever. (adult, fantasy romance)

KEY

MG: middle grade, ages 8-12

YA: young adult, ages 13-18

NA: new adult, ages 18-early twenties

adult: ages 18 and up

high fantasy: fantasy stories set entirely within another world

low fantasy: fantasy stories split between our world and another

magical realism: fantasy stories set in our world, often interwoven with aspects of modern life (not the Latin American literary movement!)

historical fantasy: fantasy stories set in a historical setting of our world

fantasy romance: fantasy stories focused on romantic plotlines instead of other forms of plot

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discjude · 6 months

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anyway for all you nerds and losers heres my handy tool for explaining this godforsaken series. have just realised that Hester kicking Aric in the nuts happens in book 3 but ignore that

#tsfgae #the school for good and evil #sge #guess my favourite book challenge (impossible)#if anyone can name me the one (1) specific chapter referenced in this ill email you 5p (I won't)#ill do rise and fall later not cause I forgot or anything

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