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zilabee · 2 months
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As a fellow Beatles fan (I assume), how do you still love the boys despite some of the bad things they have done, allegedly done, and/or are tied to but we don’t know if they have actually done?
I love them and their antics, but this trips me up every now and then
oh anon.
you correctly assume my fellowship.
we perhaps need a master post to link people to all the answers every beatles blog has to this same anonymous worry.
but my thought pattern is:
a) everyone's terrible it's not just the beatles
and by 'everyone' I mean men. I do get where you're coming from, I have my days, but at the same time it almost surprises me what a big issue this is for people, because all men are awful*. Pretty much any man put in the beatles situation would have been at least as awful - and many worse - than the Beatles.
I'm not saying that to mean 'so they're not that bad!' I'm saying it to mean that every man around you is as bad as they are. Yes even the modern ones. So the thing you're actually dealing with is 'the awful nature of men'... so it's hardly even a question about liking the Beatles and coping with that. It's just about existing in a world where you know what men are like - and coping with that. So you cope with it however you generally make peace with the fact that men don't like women very much... and if you struggle with that you have to read the books where we keep actual feminism, not tumblr.
b) it doesn't matter that much
your enjoyment of the beatles isn't going to bring about world ruination, you don't need to be some pure moral absolute, you're not going to hurt anyone by finding joy in some dickhead from the sixties! you don't pick your favourite with your moral compass, y'know? turning away from them isn't going to change anything that happened, or make anyone feel better, or even make you a better person with more inner peace. you're fine.
it's just about not getting defensive or pretending things didn't happen, or somehow arguing like it doesn't even matter that they hurt people because they could have been worse, or pretending it's all blown up from nothing. that's when fandom becomes a bit shit and ridiculous. it's just very possible to be aware of the terrible things the beatles did and still feeling the thrill of the universe flood through you when Paul screams.
* The bots will find me! The bots will "not all men!" me. You don't have to worry about it or do it yourself, the bots will do it. I will be suitably told off for generalising about the terrible menfolk who are statistically + anecdotally + factually definitely worse than the womenfolk, and I'll be reminded that just because it's true doesn't mean you can just say it, because we're meant to pretend. So you can just scroll by and not worry that I might not get told.
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saint-mona · 5 months
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Am I re-reading "India, India"? You bet your ass I am.
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maccajohnny · 5 months
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i will never understand how people could take a certain memoir's depiction of yoko so seriously given the laughable conflict of interest
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beatlesdiscord · 2 years
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[Brian teaching John how to drive]
Brian: okay, imagine this: you're driving but George and Ringo walk into the road. what do you hit?
John: definitely George. I would never hurt Ringo.
Brian:
Brian: the brakes, John. you hit the brakes.
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thedizzyzone · 1 year
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okay so… i’ve been working on a couple 1967-70 era paul mccartney x reader lil fluffy/wholesome fanfic things bc this fandom is STARVED for good reader insert fanfic.
i was mostly writing them bc i wasn’t seeing the fanfic i wanted on this app so i decided to do it myself for myself but i was wondering if anybody would be interested in me posting these.
if not then alternatively you are seeing this because we have similar interests and i would like to offer my hand in online friendship.
ok thanks bye.
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daydadahlias · 11 months
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inside u there are two wolves
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commonguttersnipe · 9 months
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So I might have developed a crush on John Lennon…
I want to die.
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cruelsister-moved2 · 1 year
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beatles songs were all just like oooh i love my little lady oooohhhh... meanwhile kinks songs were like i wish i was a rich faggot. anthology of different people smoking cigarettes. literally just a song about a phenomenal cat. getting picked up by the scruff of your neck by a gnc trans woman. just a whole song abt a guy wearing frilly panties. etc like who could ever
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megan1412 · 2 years
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Random middle of the night thought. People always mention John’s issues with women and his temper, but no one really mentions Ringo’s clearly WORSE issues. John only hit Cynthia once and apologized for it and never did it again. Ringo drank constantly and partied nonstop. He described himself as “a drunk, a wife-beater and an absent father”. Do you guys have any thoughts on this?
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steponmepinkjun · 2 years
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It is legit so weird to realize how many mostly inactive arcana blogs I still follow but since I'm an irrelevant has-been it's now time for me to claim sole custody of outrage over the Asra rent joke and say that nunyall would be where u are now without my gay communist viewpoints fucking suck on THAT arcana fanbase, the arcana fandom would never have have gotten so fuckin lame if more of em were dedicated to being gay and also restoring power to the working class 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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hiyapandanurse · 3 months
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The thing that was so cool about George Harrison was how little bullshit he put up with from others. But he *definitely* dealt as much bullshit as John and Paul or at least almost as much.
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philcollinsenjoyer · 15 days
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don't fucking pretend to be above run for your life because it's problematic please let's not do the song and dance you're beatles fans
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wefortunatefew-blog · 1 month
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I need more Beatles friends because I can only really talk about them with my dad, which is problematic for Mclennon reasons.
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esperanzacboronial · 2 months
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utilitycaster · 3 months
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I do not have the time nor wish to spend the effort to do this but I think the best way to get back at really stupid fandom discourse or annoying reblogs would be to create one of those "yourfave" blogs with something that's not inherently problematic but is broadly unpopular on Tumblr (eg: golfing; liking the Beatles; and similar behaviors) and then just repeatedly making posts with that person's favorite characters. Have all questions and submissions off on the blog. do not respond to any criticism in any way other than to check the blog of the person bothering you and then make a post saying their fave golfs. Do not think about whether this is an accurate assessment of their fave; that is not the point. The point is to see if they fall for the most obvious, idiotic bait.
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bestblacksister · 28 days
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I saw Cissy do this and anything she can do, I can do better 🖤
About ✨me✨
26 (I'm NOT old), proud Slytherin 🐍, eldest (prettiest, most talented, and best) daughter of The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black, avid follower of You-Know-Who 🙌 (but for legal purposes, it's just hypothetically, all in my head), unhinged, feminist, goddess in flesh and bone (I'm literally named after a star ⭐ and Bella means beautiful 💅🏻), I like beatles 🪲 (the insect, not a muggle band)
Fellow witches and wizards on this thing:
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@are-you-siriius - Sirius Black, our ex-cousin (he was disinherited... embarrassing 🥱), Gryffindor blood traitor (ofc this wouldn't have happened had he been sorted into Slytherin)
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