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Team RWBY and Jaune can no longer watch film versions of The Girl Who Fell Through The World, because every time the Curious Cat shows up-screen they either shoot, punch, or stab the TV set.
#RWBY#Greenlight Volume 10#Meta#Jaune Arc#Ruby Rose#Yang Xiao Long#Blake Belladonna#Curious Cat#The Girl Who Fell Through the World#The Ever After#Movie adaptation#shoot#stab#punch#the tv#trauma
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Blake: Yeah, but she (Alyx) learned her lesson in the end, right?
Curious Cat: I’d certainly say so.
#pc thoughts#RWBY#RWBY V9#Blake belladona#RWBY Alyx#Curious Cat#the girl who fell through the world#God#CRWBY really dropped that line#with them fully knowing that CC#Killed Alyx#I love the wonderful twisted minds of CRWBY!
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I love that Jaune essentially painted Alyx as an unreliable narrator. Like, it makes sense in hindsight — of course a literal child who was already mentioned to be selfish and a liar did not learn virtue in a weird psychological nightmare world that has no room for the variety of human identity.
But team RWBY, and therefore the audience, kept using Alyx’s story as a guide. So for them, it’s awful to think that they followed the wrong person. If Alyx got out while her kindhearted brother died, what does that mean for their odds of escape?
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Possibly the most interesting question surrounding Jaune after this latest episode that I haven’t actually seen a lot of discussion around is the simple fact of him apparently being the ‘Rusted Knight’.
Like the Rusted Knight isn’t just some random denizen of the Ever After. He’s an actual CHARACTER from The Girl Who Fell Through the World, who apparently MET Alyx during her travels through the Ever After. So Jaune of all people turning up apparently AS that character raises some VERY interesting questions as to HOW that happened.
Personally, I see two most likely possibilities:
The first options is that Jaune effectively ‘inherited’ this role/title from some previous ‘Rusted Knight’. This could also mean that Jaune did in fact ‘ascend’ in order to take up this role.
The second, and I must say far more INTERESTING, option is that Jaune actually IS the Rusted Knight from The Girl Who Fell Through the World. That we are basically in a ‘stable time loop’ situation where Jaune didn’t just land in the Ever After long before Team RWBY did, but even before Alyx herself did, and thus wound up becoming the very Rusted Knight from Alyx’s story.
And personally, I actually really hope it winds up being the case. Yes, it’s weird and crazy and confusing. But then that’s kind of the POINT of the Ever After as a reference to Alice in Wonderland, isn’t it? Not to mention Jaune having actually lived through the actual events which inspired TGWFTW would FINALLY gives our heroines some direct answers as to what REALLY happened on Alyx’s journey through the Ever After.
#rwby#rwby spoilers#rwby volume 9#rwby analysis#rwby theory#Jaune Arc#the girl who fell through the world#rwby alyx
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v9 doodles 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
#rwby#rwby spoilers#rwby9#rwby 9 spoilers#blake belladonna#weiss schnee#ruby rose#yang xiao long#jaune arc#bumbleby#neopolitan#alyx#(????)#idk#the girl who fell through the world
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Okay, so I stumbled into something a few days ago, and now I MUST make a post about it. I know some of us have already posted about it, but HEAR ME OUT.
I saw a theory on here a few months ago that states at least 150-odd years have passed since Lewis made it back to Remnant. Because Alice in Wonderland was written about that long ago as well.
But I was on the RWBY Wiki, and I saw this on Jaune's page.
29 - 39 (Volume 9)
THE RUSTY BOI HASN'T EVEN BROKEN 40 YET!!!
Now, I understand time MIGHT work differently for the EverAfter, but it's important to remember that RWBYJ fell long after Alyx and Lewis, but Jaune travelled back in time to WELL BEFORE the events of the story took place.
That HAD to be more than 40 years right there. And in the EverAfter, Jaune waits for Team RWBY to fall again. After all, he looks exactly the same as he does when they all meet up again at the market.
Which now leads us to my next point. This:
Summer is reading The Girl Who Fell Through The World to Yang and Ruby when they're still toddlers - bear in mind that Ruby had to be at least 2 years old when Summer left (Yang remembers her fondly after all. And I don't know about any of you, but I struggle to remember ANYTHING from before I turned 3).
But this story doesn't feel like it's brand new. It feels old. Like it's a story which has been told THROUGH GENERATIONS OF HUMANITY.
AND TO ADD TO THAT: Weiss and Blake know the story as well. And clearly, the Rusted Knight - who doesn't appear to have a name throughout the story - is clearly a favourite character to them both.
From Atlas to Menagerie. Patch Island, too.
Which means that enough time has passed for this story to have become a WORLD-WIDE SENSATION.
And lastly, the Blacksmith.
The Blacksmith doesn't just send them back to Remnant. They send the team back to "when they're needed most."
This likely means that a LOT of time has passed since the team fell into the EverAfter. But how much time?
How much did things progress on Rememnant that they would need to be sent back in time themselves (for a second time in Jaune's case as well).
Now, I understand that the wiki sometimes isn't to be fully trusted, but I still need to know . . .
How long was Jaune there for?
Separate thought here:
How old is Juniper??
When did Jaune find her??
#rwby#jaune arc#rwby volume 9#rwby spoilers#the rusted knight#passage of time#summer rose#the girl who fell through the world#lewis rwby#juniper#the jackolope
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There is no way out in the Ever After
Team RWBY has assumed that the tree is the way out of Ever After, because that's how Alyx got out in the story they know, and for the most part we the audience have ran with it, yet at the same time, we've also been assuming and speculating that Alyx is in the Ever After currently based off the intro
Yet, if Alyx is still in the Ever After, despite the explicit implication (it's noted that Jinxy seems older than he was in the story) that she got there a very long time ago, then that means she hasn't gotten out
Because the tree does not lead to a way out, it leads to nowhere
The intro also implies that Alyx hasn't aged, and is still a little girl just as when she fell originally, why is that? Simple, Alyx hasn't aged because non-natives to the Ever After are subject to some kind of Time dilation, time passes in Remnant, the denizens of the Ever After age, but those who do nor belong remain the same despite the world around them and the world they left behind moving forward, they are stuck
Heck, I'll bet getting to the top of the tree will just loop you right back to where you start, and Alyx has been stuck repeating the loop, at least until this current iteration where she starts noticing differences, footprints on the beach, a strange scythe, a disruption at the market where she's supposed to trade with Jinxy...
But how is Alyx's story known to Remnant if she never got out?
Easy
She did not go to the Ever After alone, there was someone with her
An Ozcarnation
It's generally accepted that most of the fairy tales and stories of Remnant were events experienced or witnessed by an Ozcarnation, and that he is merely retelling them
So I wonder if a past Ozcarnation fell through to the Ever After with Alyx, and subsequently died there, probably late into the journey, and was subsequently reincarnated back on Remnant, where he found that Alyx did not find a way back
Another thing we largely accept is that while most of the fairy tales in Remnant are real in some capacity, the tales we know are not necessarily accurate to what happened precisely, things are retold, elements are left out and kept secret, as has been Ozpin's pattern
Thus Oz gave the story of The Girl Who Fell Through The World a happier ending, where Alyx returned, but in truth, she was and remains trapped
But how will RWBY escape?
As I said, there is no way out IN the Ever After
But there might be a way INTO the Ever After
See, a theory I've had for a long time is that the answer to RWBY's predicament is in fact rather mundane, and that they will be saved by the return of a character we haven't seen in a while, a return that could be a callback to Vol 2, specifically showing up in the nick of time to save a certain someone from Neo
Raven is the way out y'all
#wooloo-writes#wooloo writes#rwby#rwby theories#rwby theory#rwby speculation#rwby spoilers#rwby volume 9#rwby vol 9#rwby v9#rwby9#rwby ever after#ever after rwby#the girl who fell through the world#rwby alyx#ozpin#raven branwen
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So these lines from the intro, "Clasping tight onto memories I know / They'll be overrun / (By a girl)" And right on "overrun" we get this shot of (probably) Alyx literally overshadowing Ruby.
Which is uhh. Unsettling. Especially since throughout the intro we keep getting both Ruby and Neo shifting into Alyx or back again!
So if I really jam my tinfoil hat on, they might both be falling victim to the same weird magic curse type thing, getting "overrun" by Alyx.
Then there's the fact that Blake mentioned the Rusted Knight! Meaning he's a character in the book! So if Jaune is the knight we saw in the intro, and it really seems like he is, then either something went very funky with time and, plot twist, Jaune was technically way more famous than Pyrrha back in Beacon (which would be very funny), or… He slotted into the role of the Rusted Knight, because he didn't have a Purpose in the Ever After. And if you don't have a purpose, a role in the story, then you'll get one.
They're following the path Alyx did in the book. They're doing all the same things she did, and like… this is a story. So there's absolutely no way that's going to keep working, right? Blake can't already know the answer to every problem they face, that would wreck the stakes completely.
Except… what if she does? What if every time, Blake knows exactly how to deal with the situation, has an answer they can follow that will solve the problem. A magic* solution. But the more they use it, the more like Alyx they become. So they have to find their own answers, solve things a different way, if they want to stay themselves.
(*For extra tinfoil hat points, Oscar was the first person to bring up The Girl Who Fell Through the World, literally in the same conversation as he told Ozpin that every time they use magic, he can feel them merging faster.)
And considering the headspace Ruby's in, where she desperately wants to stop having to be the person making the decisions because she's exhausted and it always goes wrong and she's just absolutely drowning in survivor's guilt and despair… I can see her reaching for the easy solution, because, well. If all it costs is who she is, well then that's not really much of a price to pay, now is it? Especially if the alternative is trying to do things our way and risking another friend dying like Penny did. Why shouldn't she just keep on asking Blake, "What did Alyx do next?"
All this to say: Ruby might be about to cheat at a board game next episode.
I'm not worried Ruby is going to fully disappear (though she might come close) because, you know, main protagonist, but damn does all this make me fear for Neo considering Alyx apparently "Lied and cheated" her way through the book (while just "trying to survive"), and Roman's last words were "Lie, steal, cheat, and survi—"
#rwby#rwby volume 9#rwby spoilers#ruby rose#neopolitan rwby#alyx rwby#the girl who fell through the world#tinfoil hat time
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Now I'm nothing but a liar and you're thrown into the fray
I didn't have a choice, I did what I had to do
I don't want you to waste your life in vain
Listening to Red Like Roses - Part II in a post-V9 haze and it hits so different now.
I'm sorry i ever doubted your Summer-is-salem's-secret-lieutenant theory i bow down to the Prophet Farron
ehehehehe summer’s part of RLR2 sure is spoken in present tense, eh?
you know what else is fun, though. “what was that? she– she lied! she left with raven, why would she…?” and “i know you’re broken down by anger and by sadness/you feel i’ve left you in a world that’s full of madness/wish i could talk to you if only for a minute/make you understand the reasons why i did it”
the thing about “why?” is there’s really only one person who can answer that question, right. and that’s summer rose. raven could tell ruby what they planned and what happened; she might even be able to explain what kicked it off, if a specific event put the wheels in motion. but she can’t tell ruby why summer thought she could end it, why she decided to try, or—assuming summer is neither dead nor enslaved—why she chose not to come back (and kept making that choice, every day, for a decade or more).
the blacksmith is probably right, in the big picture sense. summer wouldn’t have fared any better on her pedestal than ruby did on hers, and desperation to escape must have been one of the things that drove her away. but why did she leave like that? what did she think would happen? her part of RLR2 does suggest that the confidence summer expressed was genuine—she really did think she could end it. why? what convinced her?
no one knows the answer to ruby’s question except summer rose.
and summer’s part of RLR2 is soaked through with the anguish summer feels about not being able to give her that answer, even as summer doesn’t seem to regret her choices, per se. “i didn’t have a choice, i did what i had to do” and “you’re not the only one who needed me/i thought you understood” and “would i change it if i could?/it doesn’t matter now”—summer wishes she hadn’t left ruby behind, but her perspective in RLR2 seems to be quite solidly that she made the right decision.
another thing i’ve been quietly chewing on is, summer doesn’t finish reading the girl who fell through the world. she stops at what seems to be the final chapter. “and on the wind, alyx heard one more question: what are you?”
and then she closes the book. she probably intended to finish the story once she got back home (and the girls were awake), so… “this bedtime story ends with misery ever after/the pages are torn and there’s no final chapter” isn’t just a metaphor, it’s also literally about the bedtime story she left unfinished. the last chapter of ‘the girl who fell through the world’—the part of the story where alyx goes home—IS summer’s promise to come back.
the rose brooch “carries a mother’s promise.” summer left it on top of the story she hadn’t finished reading yet: an unspoken, seemingly broken promise. ruby trades the brooch away after facing her certainty that summer isn’t going to keep that promise—can’t keep that promise, because ruby believes she’s dead or worse—while lost in the middle of the story that contained the promise.
and then ruby reached the end of the tale, both in the sense that she made it to the ‘final chapter’ and returned home but also of finding one of those torn pages. and the rose brooch returned to her. in a way, it never truly left—the promise and the unanswered question it represents are a part of her.
the brooch carries summer’s promise; symbolically, just as the brooch is neither lost nor broken, neither is the promise. this is probably the strongest hint so far that summer is both 1. alive and 2. in a state to be able to keep her promise, however much longer it takes than she originally expected.
she’s coming back.
#also what are the odds that#the reason ruby and yang don’t really#have the same familiarity with#the girl who fell through the world#as blake or weiss or jaune#is it became The Story Mom Will Finish When She Gets Back#so both of them only know#what they remember from summer reading it to them#bc at first they were waiting for her#and then it hurt too much#and then not reading it became one of those#grief things that scars over#like a memorial in a way. the unread chapter#as long as it stays unread it’s a little bit like she’s still coming back
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So the Jabberwalker is Alyx right? In 9x03 we see them in their acre, picking up broken objects and wanting to fix them. And now we have confirmation from the Curious Cat that Alyx wanted to stay and fix what she'd broken in the Ever After, but was broken by the Cat before she could. So she likely became something new after ascending.
Not to mention the Jabberwalker's head appears over the burning book of the Girl Who Fell Through the World in the V9 opening:
Also it feels like the Jabberwalker is one of the few loose ends in the Ever After we have (as well as seeing whatever Little will ascend into). We've come to understand how Ascension works and who the Blacksmith is and what they do, along with the Curious Cat and it's own motives, and most of the truth to Alyx and Lewis's story. Aside from the CC and the Blacksmith, the Jabberwalker is the only other being who seems unique from other Afterans, and we still don't completely have the full picture with them. They bleed, they're easily intimidated, they're the only thing that can cut off Afterans from Ascending and permanently kills them, seems hostile to all life and seems to represent death and destruction, but also wants to fix things too, and seems to constantly be searching for something or someone?
They're also one of the few beings the Cat seems genuinely afraid of, too. And when the Cat says they broke Alyx, did they mean physically or psychologically, like they tried to do with Ruby? Is that how Alyx became something so monstrous and destructive, but her heart still remembers that she had a desire to fix what she had broken too? Constantly aware of her previous self's destructive tendencies, ashamed of her past actions, caught in a loop of breaking things so they can fix them?
#I don't know I'm mostly just rambling but#also stuck on the fact CC describes Alyx as cowardly#and the Jabberwalker being easily scared by WBY and Neo#rwby#rwby alyx#the girl who fell through the world#jabberwalker#rwby spoilers#rwby9#there's still something missing there
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“The Girl Who Fell Through The World”
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Blake: I want people to see me for who I am, not what I am.
Ozpin: And what are you?
Blake: I don't understand what you're asking.
hmm....
Little: What are you?
hmmmmm.....
HMMMMMMMMM.......
Ozpin: I recognize that. The Girl Who Fell Through the World?
Oscar: I shouldn't be surprised you're so familiar with fairy tales.
Ozpin: I've lived through my share of them.
considering that v9 and the ever after were something that was planned from the very beginning... ozma. where have you been?
#the girl who fell through the world#the boy who fell from the sky#similar titles... coincidence?#or part of a same story split in two?
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I hope that get a novelization or animated miniseries or some kind of adaptation of The Girl Who Fell Through the World since even with the new info, there's still so many unanswered questions:
How did Alyx and Lewis wind up in the Everafter?
What was Alyx and Lewis dynamic like?
What did Alyx see when she saw the herbalist?
How did Alyx and Lewis finally arrive at the tree in the first place?
What did the tree do to make her grow a conscience?
Why did Lewis leave his sister behind? Did he believe that she would return one day?
Does the loneliness that "Alyx" felt in her chest in the book refer to Lewis describing how he feels lonely without Alyx?
#pc thoughts#RWBY#RWBY v9#RWBY Alyx#RWBY Lewis#Curious cat#Alyx and Lewis#Jaune arc#rwby herbalist#the girl who fell through the world
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I wonder if it was Jaune’s determination to get Alyx to follow the story that made her distrust him.
Like, obviously that doesn’t excuse her poisoning him. But it makes sense that she’d find it suspicious, that there was one other human in the Ever After and yet he was so knowledgeable about areas he hadn’t visited, that he was incredibly pushy about things. Alyx knew Jaune also wasn’t from this world, but he keeps pushing her to follow this extremely specific path and insists it will somehow get her home?
I think that Jaune and team RWBY made the same mistake — they took the story they knew and tried to reenact it instead of just living.
#jaune arc#rwby alyx#rwby spoilers#rwby9#rwby#rwby theory#the girl who fell through the world#max.txt
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Okay so...
Given that the Blacksmith never introduces herself as "The Blacksmith", the fact that she was shown carving wooden figures in her workshop, and how The Girl Who Fell Through the World featured a character known as "The Lively Carpenter" who Team RWBY never actually encounters, what are the odds that the Lively Carpenter was just what Lewis called the Blacksmith?
After all, we only see her blacksmithing when communicating with RWBY. Who's to say she wouldn't perform OTHER creative tasks when speaking to different people?
So this is interesting one because on the one hand, I'm inclined to agree simply out of process of elimination, ie; the Blacksmith is kinda the only character we see in the Ever After left who could be 'The Lively Carpenter', and has just enough in common with that description to fit.
But on the other hand... we know that Alyx met with the Blacksmith, however do we know if LEWIS ever met her? It's entirely possible that he could have gone through the Ever After and returned to Remnant without being offered Ascension.
One note that particularly stands out to me is how Ruby clearly DOESN'T recognize the Blacksmith upon first meeting her in the marketplace. Ruby KNOWS the story of The Girl Who Fell Through the World, so if the Blacksmith is, or rather was the inspiration for, the Lively Carpenter, shouldn't Ruby have had at least made some connection?
#rwby#rwby ask#rwby analysis#swapauanon ask#rwby blacksmith#Ruby Rose#rwby alyx#rwby lewis#the girl who fell through the world
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I bet Lewis's the Jabberwalker
Alternatively, Alyx is the Jabberwalker, and everything she did was out of desperation to get Lewis home, and he wrote The Girl Who Fell Through the World in memory of her.
#rwby volume 9#rwby vol9#rwby vol 9#rwby spoilers#jabberwalker#rwby#rwby spoiler tag#rwby louis#rwby alyx#the girl who fell through the world#rwby lewis
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