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mangobubbletea7 · 9 months

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Tommy really woke up today and said:

#that’s so funny #qt Cinderella voice: dramaaaaaaaa #tommyinnit #mcyt #mcytblr #dream situation #the dream situation #mango speaks sometimes

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lasnevadaslaborunion · 1 year

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For the record, I don't hate Dream fans.

I hate that a young woman's life could have been ruined because she opened up about something that very understandably left her feeling betrayed and exploited.

I hate that a piss-poor response riddled with manipulative language and a legal threat was enough to quell the conversation.

I hate that nit-picking and hair-splitting over legalities and the definition of one word obscured serious discussion of the facts of the situation.

I hate that I've been made to feel like a hysterical, puritanical weirdo for believing that celebrities in their twenties shouldn't flirt with 17 year old fans.

I hate that I poured a year of my life into something I now have trouble looking back on.

I hate that I can't watch manhunt videos with my ten-year-old sister anymore without feeling a sick pit in my stomach.

I hate that a community I loved became a hundred times more hostile overnight.

I hate that I've had to watch people I once respected and cared about show their true colors in response to this situation - first minimizing the severity of the claims, then insulting the victim, then ignoring or endorsing the hate that former friends faced for simply expressing discomfort.

I hate that people who have openly wished death on others continue to be encouraged and laughed along with, all for the sake of someone they have never met and almost certainly never will meet.

I hate that these people, themselves, may have faced harassment and cruelty in the past for enjoying something viewed not only as immoral, but as the internet's greatest crime of all: cringy.

I hate that even the people who once devoted all their effort to lambasting Dream for everything he's ever done have just casually thrown the most severe accusation onto the pile of "cringe" things he's done.

I hate that bad actors have made so many false or overblown accusations in the past that we've collectively become desensitized to them.

I hate that this fandom has fostered such an environment that any criticism is treated like baseless and malicious slander.

I hate that this post is going to get brushed off as "obsessed parasocial dranti-ism" even though I've tried so hard to avoid having to see or think about this man and everything surrounding him.

I hate that we will likely never get closure or know for certain how much of Amanda's story was true.

I hate that so many people, right off the bat, refused to consider the possibility of any of it being true.

I hate that practically nothing has changed since October.

I hate feeling like nothing is going to change.

#discourse #the dream situation #tw grooming #negativity

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thecownamedcat · 6 months

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THE FUCK YOU MEAN “IT DOESNT MATTER THAT SHE WAS A MINOR” YEAH IT FUCKING DOES GO FUCK YOURSELF

#dream situation #the dream situation #tw dream #i want this bastard #rotting in a ditch #while wolfs and badgers rip his nuts off

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go-learn-esperanto · 2 years

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I would like to have finished writing the well thought out post I was gonna do initially but I've been extremely busy today, so I'm just gonna say.

I am so distraught by what this situation has done to my community.

Right now I'm in constant anxiety and terror because I don't know which of the blogs I followed and loved, and even possible friends, are just gonna leave forever.

It hurts seeing something that was mostly build by the fandom - let's be real, the last year of Dream SMP popularity has mainly remained because we are so many and we created fics and art, and videos and everything. It wasn't the the Minecraft server. Definitely not just that.

And more than that the Minecraft server isn't just Dream. There are so many CCs who poured all their art in it, and to see the story gone? The community gone? Just like that? That would destroy me.

I spent the last 2 years dedicating so much of my time, love and happiness to it. I made so many friends in this community.

I really don't want to say I left a fandom not because I lost interest but because the fandom sinked all around me.

The last Reblogs aren't done with lightness in my heart they're made of desperation, of simultaneously trying to maybe make my followers happier with fun posts and trying to convince them to maybe not leave, or even the worst of them all, scattering trying to reblog a posts of a blog that has said they won't be here anymore.

To me the Dream SMP was ours. We all got together when there was a new Sad-ist or Late August animatic, a lot of my music library is Dream SMP fan songs, Passerine was a fanfic with fics, music and animations made out of it. A lot of us talk about the Super Hero au like it's canon sometimes, we fought to get that Ao3 tag!!! We made content in the Dream SMP canon (the white streak, YCGMA limbo).

I am inclined to say that the fandom as a whole is as much of a Content Creator as the the Dream SMP's content creators, if not more (we are a lot of people).

And now some are leaving for very valid reasons, and us that are staying know that we'll have to find way to make this work in a sensible way - that we'll also suffer consequences of having extra hate thrown at us, even if we really haven't supported Dream directly in a long time (I for example never really liked manhunts that much so outside that really small lore video of Dream I haven't touched a Dream video or stream for more than a year).

And to think of the community that bonded around an Ode to L'Manburg and still knows how to sing it today. To think of a community that is such a safe space for LGBTQI+ people. To think of the inside jokes about salmon. To think about the zines. To think about the fact that I could live of fan content!!! Because we had almost all art forms! From embroidery to book binding, to composing to drawing, animatics/animation, sculpting, cosplaying, writing, programming, etc... I have seen it all.

And to think it can all be threatened by a single person? When we are literally millions? It's a feeling I can't really describe.

I can only wish that on the best case scenario something happens like what happened to Hermitcraft - the server goes to another person. But part of me thinks we might end up like Yandere Highschool, although worse because everyone knows about the Dream SMP. I'm starting to wonder if that even is wishful thinking. Because at least people leave Yandere Highschool fans alone because almost nobody knows about it.

All of this to say - more than the lore I am worried about the people and friends I might lose because of this situation, and what I wish is for we all to come out of this the least scratched as possible, so that maybe we can still play a little melody.

#gle original #long post #the dream situation #mcytblr

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proudfreakmetarusonniku · 2 years

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I do think it’s very strange people are just leaving the fandom entirely btw. Like. Honey. Sweetheart. There are MCYTs other than Dream. You can just go and watch Hermitcraft if it helps you don’t need to Completely Cut Yourself Off From All Minecraft YouTube Content Ever. I mean, fuck, go watch Tommy or some shit you don’t have to stop being interested in c!Tommy or whatever lol. If that’s what you have to do that’s fine but some of you seem like you’re emotionally self harming by cutting yourself off from all aspects of your interest out of punishment for accidentally following someone who might have done bad shit. That’s not healthy.

#the dream situation #go watch mumbo jumbo you’ll calm down a bit

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cellberry · 1 year

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Next time Tommy streams, whether it’s the alt stream he talked about or something else, let’s agree to not be dickwads and dono spam him about the allegations and let’s agree to patiently hear him out if he starts discussing the lore.

#cc!tommy #tommyinnit #dream situation #the dream situation #dsmp #dream smp #dream smp lore #dream smp finale #mcyt #twitch #pass it on #tw swearing

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arsonistfriday · 9 months

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yknow it really isnt normal to hope someone kills themself just bc they dont like your blorbo blingus anymore. but maybe that's a hot take or smth idk /s

#my posts #tw discourse #tw death threats #the dream situation #dream situation #sawrry for the discourse this is just something I need to point out

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riotinyellow · 9 months

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the jabs at dream went from happening every other video to every single time they post, and I'm here for it

#tommyinnit #tom simons #tubbo #jack manifold #quackity #qsmp #usmp #the dream situation #dream #freddie badlinu #badlinu #jschaltt #schlatt

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sunlitmcgee · 11 months

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I'm going to make this very quick, mostly because I have a busy day of cleaning ahead of me and don't want to be Upset during the whole thing.

I appreciate that Tommy is going to be distancing himself from Dream. I'm glad that he's finally seemed to educate himself about the situation and will not be meeting up with him later this year, and that he'll be handling stuff involving behind the scenes.

But unfortunately, all of this has come far, far too late for me to ever personally feel comfortable watching him or supporting him to the same extent I did prior to the allegations and dsmp finale. If Tommy had cut ties with an accused groomer sooner before he acted out a triggering, victim blaming riddled scene alongside an actor who himself is an accused abuser, then maybe I'd feel comfortable with him again. But he didn't. He did act out that scene with someone with grooming allegations over his head, and then proceeded to drop off the face of the earth, come back to show off his girl friend, and then go on to make some Very Uncomfortable "snapchat kitten" jokes while aware of the situation that he still refers to as "controversy" and "drama".

"You can trust me" rings very hollow when for two years I Did trust him and ended up being very Hurt for doing so.

"You can trust me" rings hollow when his character's story of abuse and trauma and recovery ended in triggering, nauseating abuse apologism.

"You can trust me" feels Empty when it's been over half a year of him joking about d.nf and rattling on and on and on about the green fucker every 5 seconds on steam. Because no, Tommy. I can't trust you anymore. You can talk about trust all you want but actions speak louder than words, and your actions have shown me that you're dangerous ignorant to these topics at best or are a straight up asshole who thinks it's all stupid drama at worse.

I'm glad he finally said Something. But it's not enough for me to forgive him for the harm that's already been caused. And that's sad. That's very sad and I wish it turned out better in a way that doesn't make me feel so upset.

#the dream situation #tw grooming mention #tw abuse mention #ask to tag

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firesnap · 2 years

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Wow. Dream testing the waters of Twitter by replying to random tweets made by members of SBI. I've never seen him do that before. Completely unexpected.

#the dream situation #i have a draft about how the only time he acknowledges wilbur or tommy consistently on twitter is when hes wanting goodwill from their fans #like genuinely go look at tweets from wilbur and tommy after each big dream controversy #he goes and replies to their most recentish tweets right before coming bacl to Twitter #every time

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mangobubbletea7 · 9 months

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Watching this all go down when you used to have such investment in these people gives it an extra layer of funny. My heart used to sink when a creator I liked badmouthed Dream. I felt shellshocked for days after the news came out in October. Now I’m sitting here like “TEAAA omg Tommy you messy bitch DRAG HIM BY HIS HOODIE STRINGS slay!!!”

#the dream situation #dream situation #tommyinnit #jack manifold #/discourse #discourse #mcyt discourse #mango speaks sometimes

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lasnevadaslaborunion · 5 months

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I was formulating an essay-style response to that steaming pile of garbage in my head while I watched it but then I realized I'd rather enjoy my holiday and stop thinking about that bastard forever

But one thing: let me just say that the wildest fucking thing about that video was how he spent 30 minutes meticulously establishing his own history as a defensive serial liar in even minor situations and even included a bit showing that he knows how to falsify evidence, and then tried to use an anonymous pastebin statement allegedly from a victim who has now left the internet as his Hail Mary. If you're willing to pick apart video evidence where alleged victims with nothing to lose show their full faces, long documents backed up by links from the wayback machine, you can't in good conscience believe a single link from a man desperate to save his career, either. There's a small chance he's honest here, but it won't matter - he's his own worst enemy.

If this is really his last word on the matter, we're probably never going to get the whole truth, but this whole debacle has confirmed just how miserable his fandom was for me - if not forced by outsiders to apologize for shit that does not matter and that you had no part in, then you're surrounded by people spreading some of the most vile victim-blaming rhetoric you've ever seen for a guy who does not and cannot care about them individually no matter how much he presents himself otherwise.

I won't forget seeing "she was 17.95 so it doesn't matter" from someone I thought was a friend. I won't forget the cutesy little nicknames you came up with to avoid the congitive stress of your precious guy being an accused groomer. I won't forget the harassment you little shits openly confessed to with no remorse. I won't forget how you laughed at victims for being emotional about a potential betrayal, or dictated what a real victim should look like. I won't forget and I'm certainly not ready to forgive. I'm not forgiving the people who mocked and belittled you for harmless fun once, either; they're as much responsible for the sour state of things as the man they hated before they were given a viable excuse. Whatever the reason, this place became a black hole and I don't want to even be close to it.

It's not worth it. I'm done. I'm not talking about that motherfucker ever again, and please, hold me to that this time.

#discourse #the dream situation #tw grooming #tw victim blaming #vent #negativity

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thecownamedcat · 1 year

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A teenager is going to meet an alleged groomer that he’s known since he was sixteen now that he’s met the age of consent. I want to throw up

#the dream situation #dream situation #not assuming anything #just pointing it out

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lacystar · 1 year

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but also god forbid I say this but do not doxx people or stalk them. him or his family. that shit is borderline illegal and not a good practice no matter how much you may think someone is deserving of it. let privacy stand on its own and be the bigger person.

#I thought this didn't need to be said but I saw someone say that for someone like him it's 'normal' and . n . no. it's not normal for anyon #just don't. don't do it #discourse #the dream situation

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proudfreakmetarusonniku · 2 years

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I’m sorry if this seems mean but I really have to say it.

Pressuring people, both content creators and fans, into taking immediate action on a situation they have very little control over or knowledge on is not helping. At all.

For content creators, you realise they have to be careful with that shit, right? It’s a fucking minefield to walk, and if they get something wrong- which they will, if they’re literally just learning about the thing and don’t have full context- that could not only severely damage their careers but be incredibly harmful to their fans. Speaking rashly on situations like this is something they can’t do. They need to wait and find things out to make a statement, and it hasn’t even been a fucking week yet. I highly doubt they know any more than we do, or perhaps even less because they’ve not been fucking doomscrolling over it.

In addition, a lot of them are teenagers. Tommy and Tubbo are barely any older than the victims themselves, they shouldn’t be expected to deal with this situation at all. If the worst allegations are true, then engaging with Dream at all is not something you want a young person to do, anyway. They don’t know how to respond to a scenario like this, and they shouldn’t have to. Pressuring them into responding when they’re going through something that they have no reference to is going to be a disaster, and it’s cruel.

For fans, they have even LESS control, and a lot of Dream SMP fans are traumatised, underage, and mentally ill, and therefore are very vulnerable themselves. Shouting at children for being upset their favourite content creator turned out to be someone who’d have hurt them isn’t acceptable. They might not be the victims here, but that’s traumatic. Shouting at abuse victims who don’t want to reblog something too close to home isn’t helping, you’re just triggering survivors who have had their source of comfort suddenly taken from them. And I know for one that my own moral OCD has been triggered so fucking hard by these posts that I’ve barely been able to eat or drink the past few days because I’ve been so guilty, and that’s not the worst of it.

This is a betrayal for all of us and it’s beyond fucked up to suggest that any emotional reaction to it is making yourself the victim. It’s fucked up to suggest any discussion of their own emotions and guilt and grief and pain are diverting attention, like this is some competition. And, more than anything, it doesn’t help. There have been so many posts about this situation I’ve wanted to share but can’t because they’ve triggered my own scrupulosity so bad I started spiralling in ways I really don’t want to share. Some of you are so caught up in making sure people know you don’t support the bad man that you’re hurting vulnerable people really badly for no reason other than to feel superior.

You’re not helping. You’re hurting vulnerable fans, and you’re making it harder for CCs to get properly informed and make a proper statement.

#the dream situation #sorry I’m actually pissed over this

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ladyddanger · 2 years

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If u are feeling like shit right now please enjoy some more terrible memes I made in 30 seconds

#c!ponk #c!technoblade #c!tina #c!fundy #c!purpled #c!punz #c!sapnap #memes by me #the dream situation #c!schlatt #c!quackity

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