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i-am-the-oyster · 3 months

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Hi there, I also have a quick question about this post (Paul's guilt about hurting John, possibly evidenced in song notes during the making of RAM, and its source—that he left John, despite having promised not to).

Are you saying Paul felt guilty towards John, and knew why, during the making of RAM? And, if so, how would you square this with Paul's notorious 'grief rant' phonecall with Hunter Davies shortly after John's death, where Paul appears not only upset by the idea that he hurt John, but also unaware of what he could have done to cause this hurt?

"But what had really got Paul upset that day was an interview with Yoko in which Yoko was quoted as saying that Paul had hurt John more than any other person. Paul thought they were amongst the cruelest words he ever read." (Hunter Davies grief rant fun)

Was Paul bullshitting Hunter? (Go, Paul)

Was Paul being defensive and angry b/c Yoko blamed him for hurting John in public?

Was Paul not surprised to hear he'd hurt John (after all, they hurt each other often), but struck by the 'more than any other person' part?

I don't mean to say you're right or wrong. I'm just curious to hear you elaborate on this. Meaning, your take on Paul's guilt, and how accessible it was to him consciously. I've long been thinking about him hearing this claim, 'you hurt him more than anyone else', and how different that would have landed, depending on how aware/guilty he felt.

(Whether Paul was right to feel guilty or not is a completely different matter, and doesn't play a role on my question.)

Thank you for the wonderful meaty (sorry Paul!) ask!

I think Paul *did* feel guilty at the time, but I wouldn't exactly say Paul was bullshitting Hunter. The thing that always jumps out at me from that transcript is where Paul says:

There's only one incident I can think of that John has mentioned publicly.

(emphasis mine)

Isn't that an interesting distinction in the context? It makes me think that there were deeply private things that they each did to the other but Paul feels certain that those things would never end up the subject of public discussion.

I don't buy the image of Paul as lacking self-awareness or self-reflection. BUT he is extremely good at re-framing things in a positive way "so many times I had to change the pain to laughter" AND he is a very contrary person. He seems to often instinctively push against whatever narrative the person opposite him is proposing, especially where the topic needs some nuance. (eg the one time he approaches the topic of Jim's violence is in response to Stern pushing Paul's own "idyllic childhood" bit).

So back to the version of their story that had in mind when I made my original post. (Which I'm not married to, but seems like a plausible scenario worth exploring). Paul and John are in a codependent relationship, John has clearly expressed his terror that Paul might leave (as he did with Cyn). John's behaviour has become erratic and (at least borderline) abusive. Paul knows that if he lets go John will "take a tumble", but he's exhausted and Linda is teaching him to take his own desires and needs into account in a much healthier way. (Not to suggest Paul was never selfish in the 60s lol, but he wasn't practicing actual self-care).

John is spiraling, and pushing Paul away in that heartbreaking pattern I call "see I knew you were going to leave". (I'm sure there must be a name for it in psychology). Linda doesn't yet realise the depth of feeling she's dealing with. Paul knows how terrified John is, he's promised he won't be like the others, he won't leave. But he can't do it any more. John finally convinces him that he actually wants him to leave, he bawls his eyes out in front of Mal, and he disappears to Scotland.

I think he would be absolutely wracked with guilt.

And then I think as part of his recovery from that depression he would reassure himself that he did need to leave, that it was the right choice, that he and John could continue to care about one another deeply and move on.

I think Yoko's statement was unnecessarily cruel hurt him, and triggered that contrary response. What's she even talking about? What did I do? The worst ever?!

Thanks again!

#that got tangenty #i hope you like text :)#crepe ask #paul's guilt #the breakup

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hoofpeet · 2 months

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This guy's a freak...

#hoof draws #hoofology #<-more on the idea of bunny having some kind of weird. Thing for being predated #does this count as suggestive #also tangentially on the first panel. I'm SO mad there's no gyro places here- not even an hour away #got spoiled by the dino's in st paul evidently and now I MISSS lamb meat #suggestive #cannibalism #<-as per request

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egophiliac · 3 months

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Tl;Dr - I stopped playing the game but I like the characters and I wanna draw them but idk if the wiki I use is up to date for cards

Do u know any wikis that have up to date cards for all the twst characters-

Asking specifically bc of Malleus cause I can't tell anymore if he has any more new cards bc HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A 100 DISNEY ANIVERSARY CARD IN THE WIKI I USE 😭

Like compared to everyone else in Disanomia, he has 12 cards (in the wiki I use) and then Lilia has 17 cards 💀

Cause I think Malleus has a Bean's Day card as well, but that could just be a fanmade one, I don't have JP twst nor ENG twst anymore so I can't confirm it myself urhghrhevw 🫠

Malleus doesn't have a Beans Day card, so that would've been fanmade! and the 100 anniversary cards are actually the new round of birthday cards, so most of the characters don't have 'em yet -- Malleus should be getting his in a couple of days, when his birthday event starts! oh god my keeeeeys

I think the wiki.gg stays pretty up to date? it looks to me like they have everything that's currently up through JP, at least. :O I did go through and do a quick count just because I couldn't believe Malleus only had 12 cards, but. he really does have the least...defeated only by Silver with 13...astonishing. we need his gargoyle club wear immediately.

#art #twisted wonderland #twisted wonderland spoilers #...maybe? tenuously? i have no idea #i think lilia and floyd are tied for the most at 18 each #twst loves the chaotic gremlins #granted card quantity is separate from card rarity/significance/whatever #i remember all of us losing our minds when vargas camp 2 came out and trey FINALLY got an event ssr after a million years #anyway i am looking forward to the upcoming magift cards and all don't get me wrong #but i am VERY VERY excited to see what the gargoyle club wear looks like #i NEED to 1) know what malleus thinks gargoyle fashion is and 2) see him in it #jade is also in a weird club by himself but at least that. y'know. has a gear theme and everything.#tangentially i do sometimes think about the fact that malleus and jade are both in single-member clubs #despite how in...i think lilia's robes story the music club was in danger of disbanding because they only had three members #although i do genuinely believe that crowley is too scared of both jade and malleus to tell them they can't have their clubs #so y'know. it tracks.

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lazycranberrydoodles · 7 months

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kinktober day 7: swapping clothes

yippee yay xie lian in red! follow 4 more hua cheng bait 🚩

#so. can you tell i didnt want to pose anything today #anyway. here i imagine him helping w chengzhu’s duties and dressing the part for fun #think about the psychic damage itd do to hua cheng to see him entirely in his color #okay it is a truth universally acknowledged that xie lian is very easily flustered when it comes to energy exchange #but consider that when he started scrap picking he was very self conscious #and his face got thicker over the years. he is eventually gonna be as nonplussed about his marriage as he is about scrap-godness #the fics that take place years or hundreds of years into their marriage where is a lot more self assured i love you mwah #this is only tangentially related to the drawing but i want to share my headcanons #my art #art #tgcf #tian guan ci fu #hualian #xie lian #hob #heaven official’s blessing #kinktober2023

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chubbychiquita · 10 months

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Your body shape is built to carry 400 pounds. I read it on the box when I opened you.

400 lbs is just getting started, im thinking i'd like to gain *at least* an additional ssbbws worth of weight 🥵

#ugh pls i wanna be bed filling immediately #this tangentially reminds me of the film robots and how they got him in a box #good movie #ask

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rivilu · 9 months

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When Karlach and Wyll approve of things at the same time

#bg3 #baldur's gate 3 #bg3 wyll #bg3 karlach #bg3 spoilers #tangentially #just being overtly careful dhjgj #the similarities they have despite the start of their quest and despite the consequence wyll had to face by mizora got to me

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themoonking · 4 months

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the book trend that needs to be left in the dust for the new year is greek mythology retellings. i am so sick and tired of "retellings" of greek (or roman, but mainly greek) mythology from authors that clearly have a very surface level pop cultural understanding of the myth(s) they're adapting and the culture(s) they're depicting. especially the many that market themselves as "feminist retellings" where the "feminism" is basically just "men bad sometimes", and especially when they're "feminist retellings" that take some of the few mythological women who get happy endings and take it away from them for the sake of saying "men bad sometimes". it's all so shallow and they exploded this year and i'm sick of it.

#i wish so fucking much to read one (1) singular actually good feminist retelling of greek mythology #but they're always so shallow both in their messaging and their understanding of ancient greek culture and religion #i speak #anti booktok #sort of anyway?#greek mythology #bc i can't make a single post tangentially about myth without bitching about medusa:#so many people in publishing clearly got everything they learned about medusa from popular online depictions #and especially the books that are specifically about medusa blending greek and roman mythology despite them having very distinct elements

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sexylinoleum · 2 months

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Based off that one Ralsei valentine. He is such a weirdo.

#deltarune #kris dreemurr #ralsei #kris deltarune #ralsei deltarune #I cant tell if this is funny or not #seems to be a reoccurring trend with my comics #also this is the first one I've made that isn't tangentially connected to child murder #Why did the valentines cards make Ralsei out to be so... fruity #we knew he was before but damn #they went hog wild with thoes cards #please ignore how the text is mis-sized Krita does NOT like text boxes #also new Ralsei design #what do you mean “its barely a design its extremely inconsistent” shut up #hello to anyone who got this far

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alfhildr-the-word-weaver · 11 months

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I lowkey want one of those "live laugh love" type house signs that says "come freely, go safely, and leave something of the happiness you bring" for the entryway of my house someday. I think it'd be hilarious, but it's also lowkey a nice greeting in its own way, if perhaps mildly ominous... What a nice way to set a welcoming vibe! ;)

#I'm kind of joking but also kind of not #like whenever I manage to get myself a house I could totally paint a little sign like that #it'd be so fun seeing who got the reference too #definitely putting it on the 'projects to do when I finally obtain a dwelling' list #(I have been trying to move out but it is not cheap... it's a whole thing)#but yeah can you tell I'm behind on Drac Daily again?#I'm listening to the podcast one this year but I'm not even as caught up as I was last year #granted I have more other stuff going on and I didn't really set keeping up as a goal this time around #some day I will finally get through all of Dracula... maybe later this year. We'll see #Dracula Daily #Count Dracula #live laugh love #home decor #fandom decor #jonathan harker #tangentially #welcome signs #vampires

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tangential-hooligan · 6 months

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A small, sweet duck to brighten up your evening 💖✨

#digital art #digital arwork #cute art #animals #birds #duck #ducklings #tangential hooliganart #i got a little overstimulated but a little duckie makes me feel better #trying to get out that energy so i can go to bed and eep

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nochangeintheplan · 2 months

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Obligatory 'fuck mahjong' post i have been here for 2 hours and haven't won a single round or even had the chance to get close to completing a yaku

I know how to play, I did fine enough in lost judgment but IW actually hates me how are these bastards consistently calling riichi 2 rounds in

#tangential but i set down the computer and let my mahjong addict grandpa play mahjong last year and he got mad too lmao #he then demanded to play against me instead of the computer #please grandpa thats not how rgg mahjong works

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animalcrossingshowdown · 5 months

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you’re pitting those bad bitches(mom’s plushie) together and it pains me to see them fight😔

okay people say this every round for most match ups but it has never been more true than with mom's plushies

#these are sooo hard I didn't think about it before queuing them all up #they're a set ! they go together !#tangentially related one time I gave a younger cousin two of my cat plushies and I gave her two because they were matching #so she couldn't take just one. they were a do not separate pair #(ty scared-e and fraidy if you want to look them up)#and years later I found out my aunt got rid of one because they're the same and I was like what the fuck !!!! no they are sisters !!!!!#and my cousin was like 'SEE THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!!'#and even if they were two identical plushies then they are extra a set they are twins

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anotherferalrat · 26 days

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One of my favorite flavors of bsd fics is (secretly?) established sskk with tragic, pining losers skk. Like sskk will be like damn, so young. Remember when we were like that?

And someone (probably chuuya) will be like stfu i know every single embarrassing thing you've ever done. You dumbasses were still severing limbs and stabbing each other at the point in your relationship where dazai and i were already at the teasing banter stage.

Dazai very conveniently appears to remind everyone that his coat is out of commission due to an angry chibi with a knife and a poorly timed joke at lunch<3

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allgremlinart · 8 months

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I'll never forgive them for not letting Zuko get fat it would have fixed him..

#like yes him being a quavering willow branch in korra s3 was funny it WAS. he got his shit rocked and it WAS FUNNY.#but he deserved to become a sturdy and chunky old man like. he deserved to get fat and happy ... .#atla #Toph was a bag of bones but Katara was old lady chunky which made me happy :] meemaw...#tangentially related to last post

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crimeronan · 1 month

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it's amazing the lengths my brain will go to in order to obfuscate the source of my discomfort. i just spent three straight hours tossing and turning, restless, antsy, skin-crawling, Deeply uncomfortable with touch, etc. eating a sandwich didn't help. so i started mapping out a walking loop that would take me miles into a deserted flooded wetland in the dead of night. i saw no possible downsides to this plan until i realized my phone flashlight would kill my battery way too fast to progress in zombies run. then i was like "hey, wait a sec. do we think perhaps the itchy skin-crawling inability to get comfortable is a sign that we.... need a shower.....??" so Then i very grudgingly got into the wet box. and you won't believe what happened next.

#what happened next was i got out feeling much better typed this post and now i am Going To Sleep. christ almighty.#'if i go in the dead of night i won't have to worry about sunburn :)' 'can you think of nothing else to worry about'#autoimmune tag #tangentially. this inability to perceive my own body definitely goes hand-in-hand with illness.

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tired-demonspawn · 3 months

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a lil dude a lil guy :)

#hazbin hotel fanart #hazbin hotel #alastor the radio demon #hazbin alastor #hazbin hotel alastor #digital art #my art #my favourite li guy :)#he got that 🦌📻 swag yknow what i mean?#makes the brain tingle in the right ways #everything i know of voodoo comes from either a singular hazbin hotel fanfiction or cyberpunk 2077 #which is to say nothing #so i just googled veve symbols and added the ones which at least tangentially vibed with his jive #plus some other mfkery i saw in the show #so i hope thats ok #intriguing lil guy :)#love it when he goes 🦌📻(full demon form) hope we see more of that in season 2 #if there will be one #damn i hope there will be a season 2 if just for the 🦌📻 breakdown moments like the one at the end of ep 8 #and our fav snake man heavening it (literally)up

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