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#omg what happened to riverdale it used to be so good in season 1
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When I speak my truth and say that the worst season of riverdale is season 1 what then
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ambitionsource · 10 months
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I found ambition when looking for Jack and Eric fanfic on ao3. I genuinely thought it was it's own show with characters who just happened to have the same name as my two bmw favs (I didn't watch gmw and for my own sake I probably never will because they do my babies; jack, eric and angela, so dirty, and I knew of certain things namely Lucas Maya Riley I didn't know enough for it to make me click). I had no clue what I was getting myself into but then I started reading. I'm so beyond glad I did, I've loved every second, every laugh and every tear. Ambition is the show I wished I had as a teen (instead I had glee... and Riverdale... that says enough...) but I'm glad I found it when I needed it, as I face the same challenges the gang has been facing in season 4 as they move on from triple a and onto life in the real world. I like to believe the stories we need find their way to us, the characters we need to meet come to us, thank you for bringing all the characters but especially Jack, Charlie, Nigel, Asher and Jade to life, joining them on their journeys throughout the show and seeing parts of myself - good and bad - reflected back on me has helped me in ways I'll never be able to put to words so I'll simply say thank you. That's the power of good writing, it leaves the reader changed, the writing in ambition is incredible. I've been invested at every step, hooked by every twist. Ambition feels so real, so poignant, the characters feel like real people, it is so true to life in all it's complexities and in all it's ugliness and beauty. It's raw and it's human and it's about community and hope and it's about flawed people who make mistakes but are still worthy and deserving of love and who are trying to do not only do their best but do good and it's the story I desperately needed. I just wanted to write a wee note to send some appreciation to you all for your incredible work and everything you do to bring us this brilliant piece of work.
If the multiverse is real there's a universe where I follow Dylan Orlando on yt and TikTok and debate and jokingly bicker with Nigel about Shakespeare and am mostly likely a techie, I'm kinda sad that I'm not in it lmao but I'm glad and so grateful in one where I found your story. Looking forward to the rest of season 4 and in time season 5, it's going to break my heart to say goodbye but that's how you know that it mattered, if it hurts to let it go.
{backpedaling to bmw for a sec, BLESS YOU FOR WRITING THE WRONGS. I loved the Shawn Angela storyline in season 1 and honestly it healed a part of me that bmw/gmw broke. Without a doubt ambition did it better. I love when they pop in and they have some of my favorite lines. Shawn absolutely kills me, to paraphrase ; "oh yeah I could be jack, authority baby" destroys me every single time. I adore his dynamic with the techies too and Jack. Speaking of Jack, I am on my knees praising y'all for Jack and Eric, so rarely are older couples in teen/ya shows given such depth and it's even rarer to see a queer relationship between two men in their 30s/40s. Their relationship isn't perfect, it's flawed and complicated and there is so much love, their journey so far has been beautiful. It's rare for older characters especially teachers and parents to be treated as three dimensional and as complex individuals, they're typically just the joke or unreasonable antagonist, not in ambition. They are just as complicated and as real as our mains and I love that}.
omg hi! hello!! welcome welcome to the ambition family! full disclosure when i got the notification in my email that i had an anon on this blog i always lowkey dread it's going to be something harsh -- because internet -- but this message was the absolute opposite and the most lovely of surprises. i don't even know where to begin, but you wrote such a thoughtful and packed note here so i wanna address it all in turn -- please bear with me for the long response!
(though if you've read all of ambition up to this point, you're probably used to my writing being way too long. ahaha.)
first off, i wanted to highlight, underline, emphasize in bold what you said here: "I like to believe the stories we need find their way to us, the characters we need to meet come to us..." because you quite literally put our mentality about creating the show into words (beautiful words at that). that is near word-for-word the approach esther and i have taken with this show basically since its inception when we started writing it for ourselves -- we never ever expected it would reach as many people as it has. and we think of it that exact same way, that those who are meant to discover ambition will find their way to it (and its never too late to dive in). so it's so special to me to see you say that, to reflect that sentiment back to us, as like... proof that it is true. this series has brought a specially strange and wonderful cohort of readers together and it is always amazing when another one pops in to make themselves known. so thank you, thank you, for taking the time out of your day to share that with us. and again, welcome!
secondly -- HELL YES TO FINDING YOUR WAY HERE BECAUSE OF JACK AND ERIC! as someone who admittedly has grown less than fond of bmw in the intervening years (does our version of ct show that a bit... oops lol), jack and eric as a duo are still who holds my heart because they were that iconic in the source material of yore. i typically just tag them because they are so central to ambition (though as you probably noticed, i don't tag bmw as a fandom -- at this point i wouldn't tag either show honestly since its so like it's own thing but i have to unfortunately lmao), but i had considered not doing so because i didn't want to clog up the jeric tag but now i'm so glad i do, because look what a lovely little happenstance of bringing you to ambition it fostered!!
(also, you're correct. don't watch gmw. i enjoyed my time with it back in the day, it's cute, but there are better shows and the fandom was absolutely horrible. basically everyone who was there will attest to that LOL. that's partially why we emphasize that at this point ambition really is its own thing, because it's so far removed -- and clearly you can vouch for that now 😊)
and thank you for your kind words about how we write jack and eric -- we 100% agree that adult characters on young adult dramas tend to be useless at best and downright vile at worst (hellooo mr schue, speaking of glee), and we wanted them to be fleshed out and flawed and featured just as much in their own right. plus not only do they have a great relationship with each other that we enjoy writing (enemies to friends to lovers done right, if we do say so ourselves), they have such incredibly important dynamics with others (lucas and isa being the obvious ones) that it's impossible to think of the show without them. so it is SO great to hear such specific praise for them from a reader! and i love that you shouted out a shawn line, he is an underrated gem in the ambition story world for sure (and allowing him and angela their due was very satisfying for us, yes, hahaha).
lastly, can i ask, are you a writer too? because the way you phrased this is absolutely gorgeous and i want to just. hang it up on my wall and hold it close to my heart forever: "joining them on their journeys throughout the show and seeing parts of myself - good and bad - reflected back on me has helped me in ways I'll never be able to put to words so I'll simply say thank you. That's the power of good writing, it leaves the reader changed, the writing in ambition is incredible. I've been invested at every step, hooked by every twist. Ambition feels so real, so poignant, the characters feel like real people, it is so true to life in all it's complexities and in all it's ugliness and beauty. It's raw and it's human and it's about community and hope and it's about flawed people who make mistakes but are still worthy and deserving of love and who are trying to do not only do their best but do good and it's the story I desperately needed."
like legit, that means so so much to us. it's so heartening to see readers engage with the material so deeply AND come away from it with exactly the themes we set out to explore -- community, love, complexity, humanity, faith, failure, rebirth. so thank you, genuinely, for taking the time to send us this wee little note. it is incredibly kind of you, and we're so glad you found this series and get to take the journey with us.
enjoy the rest of the season to come, and please feel free to pop in at any time ✨
-- Maggie
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surpriserose · 2 years
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Chris can u please please fancast part 8 I need to know how bad it would be
God.......these keep making me realize idk like any of the big actors now or at least the ones under fucking 40 now who the fuck are any of the 25 year olds playing high schoolers now and why do they have rabid fanbases the second they come out of the factory
Anyways major jojolion spoilers ahead 🥰🥰🥰
Josuke is dylan sprouse because they wanted to cast cole sprouse to get the jughead vibes but they fucked up. It works way better though because dylan is extremely confused the whole time because people wont stop calling him cole and referencing riverdale and it transfers to his acting <3
Yasuho is hunter Schafer because i can and will make trans yasuho canon idc also i get closer to googling euphoria cast more and more each time i do these and im sure she would do a good job playing yasuho because yasuho is gonna be an angsty manic pixie dream girl now :)
Rai is adam driver which is bad casting because adam driver has no ass and hes gonna play rai as very serious but like a broody sexy serious way so its even more inaccurate........reylos become railos
Joshu is ben platt who still thinks hes playing evan hansen if only because he can also pull off the lmm shitting his pants pose. Joshu becomes a misunderstood soft boy UwU 🥺
Norisuke is willem dabestie and he is losing it every scene especially compared to all the bland actors hes surrounded with like just imagine what would happen if he guest starred on riverdale and also had to be one of the 50 dilfs
Daiya is OBVIOUSLY katherine langford from 13 reason why because shes your new favorite actress from your new favorite show :)
Hato is scarlett Johansson because it would make me cry hato is gorgeous and im sorry scarlett Johansson is one of the ugliest women Hollywood tries to sell to me shes nothing
Jobin....who is the least dilfy actor...hmmm...david harbour the fucker from stranger things sorry he was a dilf in season 1 but 2 and 3 were very 🤨🤨🤨 i dont like the way youre interacting with your love interest mister and thats exactly what happens with jobin he is no longer peak wifeguy
Mitsuba is like...so im trying to get someone to capture the vibes of leonardo DiCaprio ditching his girlfriends once theyre like 26 but with jobin and mitsuba so im thinking like omg lili Reinhart the bestie the icon betty from riverdale herself <3 im actually not being sarcastic for once i think lili reinhart is really good but mitsuba is going to be a total ditzy trophy wife so like riverdale lili Reinhart is stuck making the best out of a role she's too good for idc
Omg i almost forgot kaato im so sorry kaato i want real milf hours so sigourney weaver idc shes hot as shit kaatos hot as shit listen i think we deserve ONE good casting and this is it
Tsurugi is like okay i know hes 9 but theyve got like a cgi reneesme baby thing going on and you can clearly see the actors just holding a doll in half the scenes
Kei is taissa farmiga you know the lady from like American horror story season one/three and like nothing else? The one whos like peak go girl give us nothing most of the time? Yeah shes kei because kei was also given nothing 😔😔😔
Kira is im sorry for going for low hanging fruit again but its timothee chalamet they have the same swoopy hair thats enough for me and i think he can probably pull of total asshole bad boy but women love him anyways because who fucking knows and kira is no longer just some weirdo hes a heartthrob 😔😔😔 i think for the flashbacks they make kira the popular bad boy and josefumi the nerdy nice boy fighting over karera
Josefumi is holy shit does anyone remember ansel elgort he used to be so big he was the hot young marketable man for a while despite his last name sounding like off brand gogurt but anyways hes mr the fault in our stars so you know hes got the right vibes of ya love interest for fanon josefumi
Karera is like fuck it shes Jennifer Lawrence she started acting again just in time UwU and they strip karera of all her actual weird girl tendencies and make her an omg so relatable quirky woman who somehow still has no personality
Tooru is the reigning king of fluffy hair andrew Garfield because everyone loves him but he doesnt get to have his cinnamon roll hair thats TOO fluffy and theyre not gonna pay makeup and hair ppl jack shit. I think mx. Garfield is totally down to play tooru and he can definitely do it like just do whatever he did in the social network i guess but the director is like no....be a nerdy awkward uwu man until the big twist that youre a villain 😮😮😮 and it doesnt work at all so tooru becomes a jumbled mess </3
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Yasugap canon....but at what cost...
Tooru x josuke is the reigning mlm ship and rai x yasuho becomes the reigning woman ends up with a man she detests ship because omg she can fix him even tho rais like fine and also every interaction they have is an argument
Kaato now only committed a little bit of accidental murder because we cant have women with flaws and actually doing awful shit also she and norisuke get back together
Daiya doesnt like prog rock now shes on stan twitter instead and thats half her personality just like it is for meeeee <3
I think the writers are really torn between making joshu purely a misunderstood nice guy or making him the incel that he is and making jokes about that so they do both and it ends up really gross but its not treated like that
I probably should have casted holly but im like 95 sure this becomes a total romcom with the main struggle being like josuke being torn between yasuho and karera since hes now the perfect man for her since kira and josefumi died and combined dvshjsjs meanwhile yasuho is torn between josuke and tooru
Kei is now a closeted lesbian with a crush on hato who is cishet 😔 and thats her conflict honestly wouldnt be surprised if they completely erase her being kiras sister
.....dance party ending
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mothmanchronicler · 2 years
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lmao i took notes while i watched the new episode
archie and the dog holy fuck this show hates pets
fangs & tony like "we're still bi and still queer!!!!" *looks directly into the camera*
why'd they act like that to kevin that was super weird !! i don't even like kevin and i wish that conversation had happened differently
cheryl "was that curse for realsises?"
"are you bingo's dads??" YUCK i hate frank but i hate the someone mistaking your dad for your boyfriend thing more
all four legs broken???? what's with adult archie and legs
thank god we get another girl boss villain
poor britta "mistress blossom" ???
also betty and archie being like ugh everyone cares about us
also spooky abt them like mysteriously surviving also betty acting SO weird abt archie covering her body during the explosion
cheryl is like insanely gullible
EVIL AURAS bro WHAT
why do all these idiots refuse to admit they need help like so deeply it's infuriating
where can i get veronica's vintage green phone ???
why is betty in charge at the fbi
also poor reggie he set a hard boundary with his father and veronica doesn't even care
ooo she put a hit on daddy
why is glen acting like an alcoholic husband
i hate glen but i also holy shit evil auras!!
love the framing of the debris arch around archie's mom, cool set design !!
reggie's dad!!! (also it was a chekhov's reggie's dad when he mentioned him earlier)
why are the ghoulies so well dressed
okay archie's either in a coma or ??? ya that's all i got
is fp gonna be in this season?
betty seems so off, but i can't explain it
archie going red circle again (1 point to coma)
veronica with reggie in the hospital something something veronica and archie after fred was shot
i get now that it was about her dad and wow he's dead (i don't believe it lol)
tabitha is like the only good person in riverdale lmao she cares so much abt jughead
okay EVIL AURA
OKAY BETTY ARCHIE PSYCHO TEAM UP
threatening auras
archie looks so mad abt betty sleeping with glen
also the twilight-esque betty being like you won't hurt me archie i'm not scared is so funny to me
but this is like headcanon level b*rchie and i'm here for it
OMG BRITTA !!!!!!! ABIGAIL !!!!!!!!!!! so cool
the editing when they flashed back to britta during the curse scene was bad
british man ???? dressed like american psycho guy. he's weirdly sinister omg !!! pickens !!! we hate founder families
betty girl gang except they're all pigs which makes it not cool
aw tabitha crying
also someone on here manifested hard of hearing jug
archie don't buy that house
veronica crying
and lying !!!! damn it veronica
also reggie seems like he's lying but i think it's just the acting
"cheryl's house will be safe for britta" okay toni and every social worker in riverdale
cheryl's outfit is so good
abigail trapped in the brooch??? nice
i hate archie sorry serpents
wow archie's just going crazy& he's only been endowed with superhuman invulnerability for like a couple days chill out man
NOOO CHERYL !!!! nana rose !!! fuck off nana
i'm still surprised that kevin didn't want to be part of the baby's life before like bro it was still your baby
love betty's top
archie seems very unenthusiastic abt dating betty
BINGO
omg TBK !! disrespecting betty is punishable by death (strap me to the chair i guess i'm guilty)
post episode thoughts:
archie and betty just straight up don't care about jughead huh thank god for tabitha
betty was so weird this episode can't wait to find out what's happening
all the crying made me sad lol
evil auras
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fireheartwraith · 3 years
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So, I decided to watch Fate: The Winx Saga after some deliberation (I saw the trailer and it looked cool). As I never watched the original Winx Club, I'm coming into this pretty much blind to the lore, so if you want to know what someone that doesn't have the "it's different from what I wanted" baggage thinks of the show, let's go!
Episode 1 and Episode 2
• Ooh, this is giving me flashbacks to my first day of university... Luckily Pedro is a good soul and saw me just standing there and asked me if I was a freshman (yes), if I was lost (very much so) and if I wanted help (please)
• I can tell the the show wants me to ship these two because meet cute but... I didn't think it was cute. He was kind of rude in the beginning and it wasn't *sparkles* it was small talk. My talk with Pedro was pretty much the same, except he was nicer. Being a decent person doesn't mean romantic attraction, Show, if you want me to ship this you will have to try harder
• Oh, he's the ex
• Something tells me Stella wasn't this bitchy on the original show. I am not here for the female rivalry, specially if it's because of a basic white dude
• I have never related to someone as much as I relate to Terra since I too tend to talk too much, too fast, and overshare to make up for my insecurities and anxiety. My mom is the plant gal though...
• I want a succulent!
• Bloom, who the heck talks on the phone with the speaker turned on in a room full of people you don't know???? Show wants me to believe you're an introvert when you pull this shit???
• I love Aisha
• I also love Musa
• Is a burned one kind of like a werewolf? Where if it scratches you, you turn into one? If that's the case, is there a way to get them conscious again? Like the wolfbane potion in Harry Potter
• I'm gonna pretend everyone is over 18 bacause I can't handle another Riverdale
• ........ everything changed when the fire nation attacked
• I'm sorry but you can't talk to me about the elements and expect me to not think about atla
• Being an empath in high school must suck. All that teenage angst....
• Changeling! Makes sense. My bet is that her father is the leader of the burned ones and the principal is her mom
• I get that she's missing home and normality but her mom was a bitch
• I'm glad they revealed this now and not at the end of the season, when literally everyone would know
• Stella quit being a bitch
• I expected the princess of Solaria to be a fire fairy, not an air one....
• Riven and Beatrix deserve each other
• Protect my gay baby!!
• MAGIC LESSONS
• Bloom needs to meditate and Stella needs to chill
• What kind of human parents name their child Bloom??? Aisha sounds like a human name, not fucking Bloom. I bet it's a white people thing, like Ashleigh
• Stop being mean to Aisha and Terra! They're just trying to help!
• Musa really found the one bitch in this place that doesn't have anxiety and went 👀 huh
• No! Don't use anger! Are you the only kid that never watched A:TLA?? Have you learned nothing from Zuko???
• No! Don't follow the whispery voice in the woods! That's how people get killed in horror movies!
• Oop, that's a lot of bodies
• Something tells me that burning a burned one isn't going to help
• Aisha to the rescue!
• Gross
• SO THERE IS A POTION
• Silva is a really common surname here in Brazil.... We're fairies confirmed
• Oh, they are going to pretend that Sam being Terra's brother is drama worthy huh
• Stella quit being a bitch /rt
• Yes! BOND
• huh
• That's different
Episode 3
• Have I already said that Aisha is the best??
• I still don't get what the specialists are. One the first episode Sky told Bloom "you are a fairy" as if he isn't one, and the only thing I've seen specialists do so far is fight with sticks. What are they doing in magic school?
• So, Silva can't get better until the burned one that infected him is dead? I'm pretty sure there's something like this in vampire or werewolf lore
• Is Silva Sky's dad or something?
• MAGIC LESSONS
• Don't go to the dark side Bloom! Beatrix bad!
• How many headmasters does this school have??
• Oh yeah, this dude is evil too. I forgot he existed
• Uh, do all hetero coupled do cringey shit like that?
• My mom starts talking to me about something she was thinking about as if I have the context ALL THE TIME!! We're all Terra #PowerToTheNerds
• But I'm more of a coffee addict than a tea aficionado
• Oh thank god they are using km
• RIP Silva
• Aaawww suite to the party!
• Okay but grown ups gossiping while being 100% of what the youngsters are trying to hide is my favorite trope ever
• All these pop songs are going to age the show
• Terra that was so awkward omg
• What the fuck Stella???
• How old do fairies get? Like, do they live for centuries?
• Is it bad that I discovered what shotgunning is through a smutty wolfstar fanfic? 😬
• Rosalind? Former headmistress Rosalind?
• Oop, another dead body
• Oop, Silva..... F 😔
• Bloom can't you listen to Aisha for once??? You are going to get yourself killed
• That's a sweater, not armor
• Because that's not creepy at all
• You could at least have phoned a responsible adult before running off into the forest looking for a toasted slender man
• Your suite mates don't qualify as responsible adults but it's better than nothing I guess
• Oh look, a portal to another dimension!
• Look! A responsible adult!!
• Oh, he's still alive
• Oh wait, nevermind
• Did she just Thanos him?
• Hugs!
• I still don't get what the specialists are
• My best friend in high school was adopted so I'm having flashbacks... Her birth parents got in contact after almost two decades of radio silence. It was a very difficult time for her, with lots of different and sometimes opposite emotions about the whole thing. In the end she accepted that whatever happened, happened and that the mom that raised was her real mom, no matter her faults. I hope that Bloom can get to the same conclusion
• Alright, I wasn't expecting Rosalind to be in magic cryogenic coma
• Why can't they meet? Is Rosalind evil or something?
Episode 4
• At least now Bloom is aware that her friends have their own lives and aren't they just to be her sidekicks
• Girls sticking together!
• Still don't get why Musa needs to hide her relationship with Sam.... If I was Terra I would be more upset that my friend was hiding the relationship from me than the relationship itself
• Last episode was Sky's daddy issues, so this one is Stella's mommy issues. And, of course, the whole show is about Bloom's issues (general)
• The Queen of Solaria is named Luna?? Huh
• This episode is also about snooping
• I'm going to find whoever thought hdr was good idea and force them to watch something on Netflix when the screen is so dark you can barely see what's happening
• I'm going to pretend that's a p!atd reference
• I'm going to pretend I didn't hear 2004
• Can the camera stop spinning, I'm getting dizzy
• Anakin noooo
• Rehabilitation magic?
• So Queen Kindness is not so nice after all
• I want to give Sky points for figuring it out but let's be honest here, it was not that hard
• When did they name themselves "Winx"? And what does that even mean?
• ANAKIN NO
• Good for you sky
• Yes! Tell the responsible adults!
• Push her
• So your parents were from Aster Dell
• Well they both are redheads
• Oh sweet Anakin...
• SEE???
• Silva that's shady as fuck
That's all for now! I will watch the rest, but don't know if I should make another post or just edit this one...
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supernatural-reacts · 3 years
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Season 14 episode 6
- OH CHARLIE IS IN THE RECAP YES PLEASE I MISS HER
- this cold open is very... energetic. And long
- oh there’s the monster good
- poor Dean :(
- “maybe I’m allergic to sitting around doing nothing.” I LOVE JACK
- SAM SPINNING A FIDGET SPINNER HELP I LOVE HIM SO MUCH
- “we can be hunting buddies!” Jack is so cute
- “you didn’t do anything wrong.” “Neither did you! But that doesn’t make it any easier does it?” DAMN JACK
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APOCALYPSE WORLD CHARLIE MY BELOVED
- Jack and Dean hunting together 💕
- ah ✨bribery✨
- “he used to have a pretty damn good wingman.” “So call that guy to check on him.” “That guy was you.” “No. It wasn’t.” EXCUSE ME WHILE I CRY
- OMG APOCALYPSE CHARLIE HAD A GIRLFRIEND IM 😭
- THIS IS SO SAD
- “no you back off. Old man.” AHSHJK
- having Jack flirt with this girl is very strange considering he’s 2
- “I’m so glad this is my last case.” Oh damn...
- OH HEY JACK USED THE CHRISTO TRICK FROM SEASON 1
- “I have read all the books.” “Nerd.” I LOVE THEM
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what is this show 😭
- “do you believe in love at first sight?” AJSJAKKS THIS IS SO STUPID
- “a ghost!?” “No he’s saying it’s not a ghost.” LMAO
- “Archie! Hey!” does- does Dean watch Riverdale
- oh no Charlie!
- EWWW THIS THING IS DISGUSTING
- what is this girl doing
- oh damn she’s a necromancer
- this is so weird! Jack is two years old!
- why are Sam and Charlie having this talk over an emotional montage of people in weird outfits carrying the bug guy’s body away
- “actually love can get crazier than that.” DEAN SAYS TO THE KID WHO SEES BOTH HIM AND CAS AS FATHERS
- is Jack sick? What’s happening?
- OH NO
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dreamerandcrazy · 3 years
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Ok, so I haven't been able to comment much on my Riverdale rewatch mostly bc i'm watching it with my boyfriend and we have an agreement of no cell phones when we're watching, otherwise we can't pay proper attention to it. But I wrote down some notes about the episodes I did watch (I watched up until ep 6, which is very ironic bc apparently today is its anniversary, so yay for my perfect timing). I actually remember most of the stuff that happened in s1, so here's mostly a few things I paid more attention to or noticed about the characters and the ships, or things i'm able to look at through a different view now that i've watched all the seasons. Strap in if you want to see my notes, if not just scroll please, no ship or character hate here please. Also, feel free to ignore, this is really just a personal look in some stuff I didn't notice in my first watch.
- Betty's character used to be much happier and lighter in season 1. I know we're introduced to "Dark Betty" right in episode 3, but still, I feel like the way Lili played Betty in season 1 did not hold the same "darkness" as it does in the following seasons. The scene where she is dancing happily in her bedroom because she's going to homecoming with the boy she likes? The scene where she introduces Jughead to the Blue & Gold and gets him to work with her? Her genuine innocent happiness at seeing her sister again after so much time? The way she interacted with Kevin and Veronica? Those were all chef's kiss because she actually feels like a teenager in them. In all her girly glory, she radiates youth energy and it's a thing that was sadly lacking after s1. Btw this is not a critique at Lili's acting at all, I blame it entirely on Ras and his obsession with dark Betty.
- There's actually so many indications of Cheryl being a lgbt character in the first episodes that I have no idea how I missed it the first time. But then again, there were many indications with Veronica as well, and sadly that's not the path Ras chose for her.
- Jughead in s1 is truly so superior in so many ways that it's not hard to see why he quickly became such a fan favorite. I think even if he wasn't played by Cole Sprouse, he still would have conquered many fans' hearts. Sadly, the things that made Jughead such a loving and interesting character for me also fizzled out in s2 when the writing team decided to make him a woke serpent leader instead of allowing him to sticking to his true personality as a passionate mystery lover, a dedicated friend and very nerdy, which was very cute. I feel that we got some of that back for him in s4, which was good, but sadly s1 is where my love for him really stayed to stay. But I still care for him, and s5 has a promising storyline for him which i'm excited about, so let's see if s5 Jughead can become better than s1 Jughead.
- Going back again to Cheryl for a sec, I just noticed that the red lipstick actually wasn't that common for her in s1? At least not in the first five. I wonder when did it start becoming her trademark? Anyways, it's actually a really good look her and allows you to appreciate Madelaine's natural beauty even more.
- Also, did anybody notice how Alice lowkey figured out who killed Jason in ep 2 lmao, like... in episode two she legit says she wouldn't be surprised if the Blossoms themselves had killed Jason, which... is what happened LMAO, considering we know it was his father. And even more hilarious and tragically ironic note, in ep 6 she's laughing at Betty suggesting that Hal killed Jason because "do you think your father has the stomach for it?!"... Ma'am... i'm-.... 😂😂😂😂.
- This rewatch has reminded me of how much I adored and how I much I miss Josie and the Pussycats. The girls were such a nice addition to the cast, and their songs were so beautiful. I truly wish we get to see them again someday, but at the same time I also think the actresses deserve to be at a work place where they're given the treatment they deserve and not completely ignored and treated like extras.
- Archie/Valerie was super cute and is very underrated in the fandom, but i'm glad Valerie stood up for herself and didn't take any of Archie's or Cheryl's sh*t. Still sucks because they were really good together, though.
- Why was Jason not allowed to talk, lmao? Like, i'm sure it's become a running joke in the show at this point, but back when season one was airing what was the excuse for it? He appeared in so many flashbacks and scenes and we still never heard a single word ☠️☠️☠️☠️. I just want to know what was the reason lol.
- I liked s1 Reggie, but I feel like Charles Melton's Reggie is better because he actually feels like a douche with good intentions lol, and he has more of a personality. Most of the time I even forgot about Reggie in s1, but after s2 he definitely made me more aware of him. So for that, I like Charles Melton's Reggie more. But the actor from s1 still did a good job with what he was given.
From now on I will be talking about the ships, so bear with me, and know that I am a multishipper. Yes, I have my preferences. No, my word is not law, it's just an opinion, so please respect it.
- Bughead is still super cute in s1. I feel like from s1 they will always be my otp, even if I no longer feel as strongly about them now and have a different insight as to where I would like their story to go, and now I definitely see the problem others had mentioned before of how they kind of took over the show, which is something I kind of closed my eyes to before... But I really loved them in s1. It felt like a very juvenile teenage relationship, they didn't give much thought on why and if they should be together, they just went for it like teenagers usually do, and they were very very cute together.
- I feel like if you don't count Beronica (because they really were the best no matter what you say or ship), if there's a ship that deserves "best chemistry" award for s1 is probably Varchie. I lost my interest in them years ago, but this rewatch reminded me of why I actually loved them once. They never really became an otp for me, but Kj and Camila's chemistry in s1 was VERY GOOD, and I really liked them. Their kiss in the pilot was electric and the s&xual tension was OOF, and that chemistry carries on through the season. You can easily tell something will happen between them eventually. It makes me sad bc I don't know what happened after s1, but their chemistry from s2 onwards was just... not there for me. Which is ironic bc it's the season they truly started dating and they got a lot of smexy scenes, but I just... didn't feel it. But I'll leave that comment to my s2 rewatch. For now just let me enjoy Varchie's chemistry in s1 while it lasts because it was really good.
- Now we get to Barchie, who I made clear was the reason for my rewatch, so let's get to it. I LOVED the way Barchie was written in s1. I remember when I first watched Riverdale, I was curious about their dynamic but didn't put much thought into it because I loved Bughead too much and wanted them to be together, and I thought Barchie would be the traditional "first og ship" thing and wouldn't have a big follow up, but boy was I WRONG and am I GLAD for it. I'll talk more about their development in the next seasons when I get there, so for now let's focus a bit on s1. Just in like the first two episodes, there is so much Barchie foreshadowing, like, it's legit insane how it was right there in my face and I missed it the first time! "I have never felt what i'm supposed to feel with betty", "it's not my fault he doesn't like you", "I can't give you the answer you want"... Omg, those are obvious eyebrow raising "this will come back to bite you in the a$$" moments and it's incredible how they actually DO! I would call it clever writing, but like... it's Riverdale lol. So I really am just glad that the ship was done this way, i'm glad Barchie has the back story that they do, they've really come a LONG way and i'm happy I get to experience their whole growing storyline. It's also especially good because s1 actually provides you with scenes that show you their friendship and how they're so close, you see them hanging out, talking, their pictures together, everything was just really done well with them. Still have a bit of critique with the way Archie contradicted himself sometimes regardinf his feelings for Betty, but let's be honest, we've watched enough Riverdale to know that's just a problem with the writing.
- Kevin/Joaquin is still my favorite Kevin ship, i'm sad it's completely impossible to go back to them someday so for now i'll just be really glad it existed and that I got to see them even if it was short-lived. They had great chemistry and their kiss scenes always outsold.
- Beronica... sigh. Beronica. The most wasted chemistry i've ever seen on CW and I've watched a LOT of CW shows. There was so much potential there, s1 was practically overflowing with them and it's one of the reasons it became some popular. I remember when the Beronica fandom was the biggest one, ah, good times. Veronica and Betty were easily the best part of season 1, their friendship, their lowkey romantic moments, they were just superior in every way. This ship deserved better, not even just as a ship, but as a friendship.
- Veronica's s1 hair >>> Veronica's hair in seasons 2-4. I loved the side part and I am glad it's back in season 5, it looks so much better like that.
- Cheryl, as always, deserves better. Can't wait for her to meet Toni so I can watch again Cheryl finally get to love someone and be loved back, which is exactly what she deserves.
For now, that is all! I will probably make another post soon when i'm done with season one and from season two on I will be live-blogging the episodes since I will be watching it alone. Once again, pls, no hate, my thoughts are my thoughts. Peace.
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cartoonfangirl1218 · 4 years
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Riverdale should have been a Disney show
Riverdale should have been a Disney show. There I said it. I'll admit the first season was fine Great even. Self-contained with an intriguing mystery and you waited at the edge of your seat for what will happen next. But then... Part of the problem for me is because I've read the original comics since I was a girl. I still do get some from my mom, and the way they have changed the characters just bug me.Betty used to be the girl next door, always hopeful, smart, trying to figure out the mystery. And it was perfect that she was a reporter because Betty was always someone who valued honesty so her being the roving reporter was perfect. And her taking pills for anxiety or some sort of disorder was also a nice take because she does take on so much, and tries so hard to help and be good and nice and perfect. All the stress. Archie was also great in the first season. A bit horny, but he means well, and he truly is an average American boy so his big trouble of choosing between music and football. He's a klutz and sometimes his plans go sideways but he means well, he's all for family and Riverdale and school spirit. None of this whole Red Hood/semi mafia/wrestling nonsense. I actually really liked their take on Veronica, she still a bit materialistic and thinks she can depend on her wealth to get her out of trouble but I do like their take on trying to be enterneauripal and working to act less high class society girl as she was used to. 
Jughead, I'm conflicted with. Because he's good I guess as a brooding, investigative journalist he's good. It fits the setting of the show. But I do have a soft spot for him as the sane man to Archie. Going about his business, surprisingly philosophical. And you can't forget the most important attribute to him. His love of food! I miss that. Like the one scene in season 1, I forget what exactly but basically he ordered burgers and when Cole Sprouse just protectively held the burger to him...such a nice touch. That sort of guy I can see as a DCOM. The genius ditz I guess it's called. But he's not dumb. He just prefers napping to being awake. 
Now the others...omg.I have a bone to pick when it comes to the other characters in Riverdale. Josie and the Pussycats-- they are such lively musicians who solve crimes, sometimes in space. ABsolutely wasted here. Melody barely had any lines. And they didn't have Alex or Alexandra Cabot which was such a shame. I know, I know they're in the new Katy Keene show but having them be step-siblings who used to date is wrong and weird and bad and no! Stop having the twins in these shows with vaguly incesteous feelings. It's weird!
Kevin Keller, all his storylines revolve around his bfs or lack of bfs or how much he wants a bf. The Kevin of Archie comics was so much more well-rounded. He was head of ROTC, he was class president, he ran marathons, he was Veronica's bff, he was a reporter. He had an appetite to match Jughead's. He even had a brief crush on Jughead! He was so much better than this sham. He was confident in who he was and did his best to help others feel good about themselves too because he knows not everyone is lucky to come out as LGTBQ in a supportive environment. 
Reggie. I think not giving him enough of an arc in season 1 really backfired because if he appears, it's only as Veronica's arm candy. Which is a shame because he is a good contrast to Archie. A bit richer yet a cheapskate. Thinks he's a casanova, loves being the class prankster. A modern day politician with his sweet words when all he cares about himself. Basically like 
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Yet he has his hidden depths with his neglectful workaholic parents and jealousy of Archie's popularity. Cheryl. Omg Cheryl. They have ruined you here. I'm sorry, I do NOT find any of her lines iconic. It's like she swallowed urban dictionary and a gothic novel and came out all jumbled in a google translate. She may be abused but the way she still treats others like shit and gaslights her gf and makes everything about her is just...ugh!!! OMg, comics Cheryl is actually fun and iconic. She's as rich and pretty as Veronica and unafraid to use it. She wants to be a star like a modern day influencer. She's a red-haired Sharpay Evans basically. 
Also Jason, her twin whom they sadly killed off. He was also fun like a meaner, snobbier version of Reggie. But with a huge crush on Betty which I think could have been used to milk such drama. 
Polly also got hit badly. She was a good older sister. She was a reporter, and inspired Betty's enviormental-feminist activities. A sane person. Not a cult worshipping cuckoo. Toni Topaz, ah she was so good in season 2 and then they made her Cheryl's arm candy. Alas. I liked her as a friend to Jughead. In the comics, she was his equal in food contests. That's no small feat. She was cool, and joined Betty's band and... she was her own person. Remember when Toni used to be a photographer for the South Side paper. Yeah. Basically Toni as a 3d character with personality. Please return. 
Dilton. Oh Dilton. Once the smartest person in the Archie universe and they turned you into a survival freak to get killed by the gargoyle king. Or whomever. I just remember he got killed somehow. Honestly, they should have stuck to smart Dilton. They need a smart scientist there, cuz no one is using their brains in Riverdale. 
Chuck. They have done you SUCH A DISSERVICE! So so bad. Chuck was a good person! He was a cartoonist, and a basketball player and Archie's friend. (Yeah, that's right Archie has friends in the comics. Even though Riverdale makes some effort to show Archie and Jug's bond, they're mainly consorting with their gfs. In the comics, they had guy nights. Reggie, Chuck, Kevin, Dilton, Moose. Come on show. Friendships are just as important.) And what did they do, make him a lying scumbag, turn him good and then have him arrested because of what Cheryl did! No, no no. Bad writers. Just no. Ethel Muggs. You have also been wronged in season 3. Making her a crazy freak. Ethel in season 1 was nice. Ethel in the comics is nice. Plain but with a good heart even though she had a slightly obsessive crush on Jughead. Here, making her cult worshipper.... smdh.  Okay at this point I know I sound like a bitter, bitter person complaining how it'S nOt liKE tHe cOmICs. But hey, I admit season 1 was good even if they changed the characters a bit. It’s just that I watched Riverdale because of the property it derived from. Because of the comics. At the least I expected some faithfulness to the characters. Not make them all so inconsistent and crazy. 
It's just the writing is so inconsistent! The plots hop around and so do their moods. Bughead and Choni broke up for one episode and then they got right back together. Even though they had VALID reasons to break up. Nope. That made fans mad. So they had to get back together. Ugh. And Archie got attacked by a bear and was so traumatized that he broke up with Veronica because "he's changed" for like two episodes before forgetting about it and going back to Veronica. Oh which brings me to the ridiculous "love triangle" of Archie/Reggie/Veronica where she couldn't choose. Please, Archie and Veronica were reuniting and planning to go run away for a weekend together. Reggie was completely forgotten until he walked in on them. And Veronica couldn't decide because she loves them both? No, she didn't. She may have felt bad to tell Reggie but it's not because she loved him. Forgetting a guy so quickly...yeah great proof of love. Horniness maybe. But her indecisiveness makes her look bad. Don’t tease a will they, won’t they when the answer is so obvious.  If you're going to do something like that, you should have there be something called CONSEQUENCES! They can get back together but at least wait. Wait 8 episodes at least so they can have character development. But who am I kidding. Character development is not the goal of this show. The character's just move because the writer's want them too not because it fits their personalities. Such as Archie's grieved reaction for baby Teeth in season 3. 
Not only do I have no idea when (the ridiculously named) Baby Teeth appeared, much less why Archie or I should care about his death. But sometimes the show juggles too much. Too many characters. Too many plots. It's all so ugh!!! So my final thought on this is... Riverdale should have been a disney channel sitcom. Archie comics are about family friendly entertainment and sometimes imparted lessons... well so does Disney. I get the appeal of having Riverdale reach a new teen generation, but from what I can see the only big thing Riverdale on CW is that it allows alcohol and gartituous sex scenes. 
Which is another small gripe of mine. I can handle sex scenes (hello Magic Mike XXL) but so many at such inappropriate moments too It's like that scene in an action movie where they suddenly kiss when they should be running for their lives. No teen is that horny all the time. Plus there's always less is more. If one kisses so much it loses the meaning. If you think your shirtless Archie is going to distract me from lack of plot haha. No. Plot and consistency still sucks and shirtless Archie does not make it better.
But Riverdale as a Disney show can work. After all the comic stories are a bit formulaic. It's all high school hijinks. And all the characters fit an archetype. Archie, the protagonist. Veronica, the fashionista. Betty, the reporter. Jughead, the slacker. Reggie, the class clown/bad friend. Cheryl, the Sharpay, Kevin, the sane one. And if people want a season long story arc with dramatics, Disney can actually handle it too. After all they had the mysterious "threat' lurking in the background of My babysitter's a vampire season 2. Or the Juliet and Mason saga of Wizards of Waverly Place. And if people want adult situations, look on to Jessie. Rewatching an episode now, there were so many adult jokes and references that flew over my head so they could sneak those in. Heck, Disney channel is infamous for all the innuendos they manage. And they handle consistency. Cody and Bailey broke up in Suite life on deck, they actually stayed broken up for a good half season. Gabe matured from a prankster tween to teen in love in Good Luck Charlie. Actions have consequences, characters grow. Storytelling 101
And the best part is they don't even have to think too hard for the plots of the week. They literally can build on stories from the comics. All 80 years of it. And I have put some examples right here from my own Archie comics. Like Veronica literally being the fashion police. 
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Veronica and Cheryl teaming up + rolling around in their money. 
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Cheryl changing the Cherry Blossom Festival to the Cheryl Blossom Festival 
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Archie doing his classic Valentine's Day mix up
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Veronica and Betty buy Cheryl’s maid service when her father forces her to get a job. 
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Jughead and Trula (Jughead's nemesis & psychoanalyst in training) get amnesia and become friends. 
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A boy dares to change Veronica
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Jughead falls in love with the lunch-lady 
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Betty and Veronica pretending to be distressed damsels to get Archie's attention (it backfires) 
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Toni and Jughead foil each other in a food eating contest. 
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Betty's cast causes more pain to other students
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Reggie dates Cheryl (for real) 
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Reggie helps Kevin dress for the dance and his mystery date 
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Riverdale Shore. 
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Cabot vs Lodge
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I think all this pretty much illustrates my point. Archie comics equals Disney sitcom all by itself. 
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staliaqueen · 4 years
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Riverdale 4x17 - First thoughts
Pre-thoughts/expectations: Im very exicted for once. At first I was dreading this epiosde, because, you know, it’s a musical one, and you know how the last one went... (first thoughts on that here). But then they dropped all the Barchie stuff so now I’m PUMPED!
Warnings: Swearing and caps lock, also I didn’t edit any of this. 
First thoughts: 
Jughead: “It was over.” Me: Bughead?
I’m glad to see Jughead back writing in Pop’s tho
God another tape? I honestly completetly forgot about those
Oh no Jughead is singing again
It was god awful last time
I’ve only heard three words and it sounds like ha has inproved but I don’t wanna get my hopes up
Okay Cole’s singing is better (maybe that’s because he’s singing a low tone now though?) but I still think it’s a weird creative decision to have Jughead sing tbh. It just feels really weird and out of character. I know he’s not actually singing but still. I think the musical episodes would work better (or less bad) if he was the only one that didn’t sing. 
Oh now Archie is singing that is so much better
And Veronica too
I don’t know which musical this is from but I promise I won’t judge it based in Riverdale’s interpertation 
The people singing at Pop’s are really funny to me but I don’t know why
But also SWEET PEA YAY
I love Veronica’s outfit can I have that?
I hope Hiram dies
God Archie and his big mouth
He and Hagrid should be friends
I would honestly pay to see that spinoff 
GOD ARCHIE IS SO PRCIOUS AND JUST WANTS TO HELP I LOVE YOU
“The salem witch trails, definitly.” You fucking took the words right out of my mouth Jughead
Knowing that Brachie is coming is giving me the streangth to get through Bughead scenes without wanting to puke wow that hasn’t happened in a while
How do you know it’s a he, Charles? Do you know him? Is it you and your boyfriend in prison? 
Really Mr. Honey? Let Kevin sing! He’s the best of the cast!!!
“We’re generation Z” God that fucking cracked me up. No you’re not you’re all 30! I know they’re probably trying to give us a voice but I feel worse about being gen Z now that Kevin said it like that
Kevin sings tho so that’s good
Doing something like this, giving teenagers today a voice and trying to express how they feel is something I really wanna see more but it doesn’t work in Riverdale. Riverdale is so far removed from reality that doing these kind of realistic and relevant things and topics can’t work. If you’re gonna give generation Z a voice then you need to do it with people who behave like real gen Z teenagers, and the characters in Riverdale don’t. I don’t mean that all media have to be realistic, but if you’re gonna do something like this it kinda does. 
The musical numbers aren’t as awkward as in Heathers. That just hurt to watch, but this is totally fine. 
If no one had number 69 I’m sueing 
The Archies? Does Archie have a secret twin too?? With the same name???
THE CAR BETTY HELPED HIM FIX UP YEAH
yes bring back the Fred Heads
I can’t concentrate on the Fnags/Kevin scene cause I’m just thinking about that tickling thing and how fucking weird that was
I like Fangs being a supportive boyfriend tho
Yeah Betty’s about to roast Jughead this is great
Jughead’s lying to Betty again what a surprise
I’m fine with Jughead being in the band as long as he doesn’t sing
He can play drums like his dad
OH FUCK YEAH KEVIN IN DRAG LET’S DO THIS
The receptionist looking at Kevin OMG 😂😂😂
Shout out to Miss Bell
OMG SWEET PEA IS HELPING AND HE’S PLAYING THE GUTIAR???? TIGER PRINT HAS NEVER LOOKED SO GOOD
OMG YESSSS KEVIN KISSED ARCHIE THAT WAS AMAZING DIDN’T KNOW I NEEDED THAT
At least Honey let him finish the song before he pulled the plug
This scene would’ve been so much cuter if it felt like Betty, Veronica, Toni, Cheryl and Kevin were all actually friends
Hate to break it to you Betty but that’s not a wig it’s a tiara
Wow they’re really making up for 3 seasons without drag
God Toni’s wig and Cheryl’s hair
OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD SEEING BETTY IN A WIG THAT ISN’T THAT SHITTY D*ARK B*ETTY WIG
Sugar Daddy is the best one yet but I don’t think it’s the right one to convince Mr. Honey
aaand I was right
Can all of them be barred from Prom? Cause I really don’t wanna see that unless Barchie goes together
Honestly I don’t think Veronica has the right to be that mad at Archie. Hiram isn’t his dad he can’t just make him go to the hospital. He tried to talk to him but he refused to listen there was litteraly nothing more he could do. Maybe he should’ve told Veronica earlier but th episode doesn’t tell us how long it took him to do it but it looked like it was the next day
Betty has more of a reason to be mad 
Also Jug don’t be so dramatic you didn’t actually die you idiot
OH NO DON’T SING
FUCK I CAN’T WITH THIS ANGSTY SCREAM SINGING BULLSHIT STOP
When Betty said “How do you think I feel” it sounded completely diffrent from the rest of the audio. Seriously, that shitty amature dubbing is kinda inexcusible from a big show like this
They look kinda funny screaming at each other
sSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsown up 😂😂😂
FUCK YEAH EVERYONE’S IN DRAG NOW
Wait so are the fights happening during school time? Wtf? They’re editing the events like they take place during the same time so why aren’t they at school??
NEVERMIND REGGIE IN DRAG SKJKFLHJSHF
FUCK YOU HONEY YOU CAN’T CANCEL THE SHOW BECAUSE OF A PEACEFUL PROTEST WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
fUCK YEAH THE BARCHIE SCENE IS COMING NOW BE PREPARED FOR MORE CAPSLOCK
You didn’t screw up shit she shouldn’t have gotten as mad as she did because of that
“We peaked in the 1st grade” God they’re so adorable 
OMG THEY’RE GONNA DO A CALLBACK TO SEASON 1 WHEN ARCHIE LOOKED AT BETTY LIKE THAT AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHSKJJSH
Ok nevermind it was about Fred sill really cute
God they’re gonna sing a song called Origin of Love.... I don’t think I’m mentally prepared for this
Do I even have to say that this is the best song number in the show?
Veronica what are you doing I want Barchie
No not Jughead ugh
CAN THOR PLEASE KILL THEM ALL WITH HIS HAMMER THAT WOULD BE GREAT
Okay Cole’s singing has improved a lot I’ll give him snaps for that
I take back not wanting Veronica or Jughead right now this is great Jeronica and Barchie parallells
I really hope this cheating plot line will bring Jug and Veronica together that would be so great
OMG THE FLASHBACKS TO BARCHIE SEASON 1 MY HEART
AND FLASHBACK TO THE BARCHIE KISS FUCK YEAH
FUCK YEAH THEY’RE KISSING NOW SJKSLHJSDBVHBRGVHWR WFHBVHVWKJHRVBRHBVHRBH
That was better than all Bughead and Varchie kisses combined don’t @ me 
She looks happier and more in love in the picture with Archie
OMG JUGHEAD IS HERE YES BRING THE ANGST
I can’t wait to see Jughead’s reaction to finding out Betty cheated on him with Archie
LOL Archie has 1 picture with Veronica and 4 with Betty that’s so in character I love it
omg they’re still gonna perform it’s gonna be so awkward I love it
YES THEY’RE LOOKING THROUGH THE WINDOWS NOW I LOVE IT
OH MY GOD THIS SONG WTF IT’S GIVING ME SO MANY FEELS
OH MY GOD THEY’RE DANCING IN THE OUTFITS FROM THE DANCE IN 1X1 I CAN’T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT I’VE EVER WANTED 
NAME ONE BUGHEAD MOMENT THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THIS YOU CAN’T
THE HANDS AGAINST THE WINDOWS HHHHMHMHNJBNJTNBDNBN
I WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING BIGGER THAN CAPSLOCK TO SHOW HOW I’M FEELING
Yes they’re preforming now this is gonna be so awkward
And they showed Sweet Pea for another second 
Did they forget that he’s a fan favourite??
Jughead’s playing the drums but he still has a mic fuck
He looks so confused when Betty won’t look back at him God that’s hilarious 
Fangs and Sweets singing with to the misfits part yess
WHY ARE THEY STANDING ON THE ROOF THATS SO STUPID THIS WAS AN ACTUAL GOOD EPISODE DONT RUIN IT
How many fucking people are there I thought Riverdale was a small town
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I don’t know wether to laugh or cry
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Gladys?
Excellent choice, anon!
002 | Give me a character & I will tell you
How I feel about this character: God, I love Gladys. I didn’t think I would, but I do.  When we first entered season 3 and knew we were going to get Gladys, I was like “I cannot like this woman” because of the way she left Jughead, didn’t let him come to Toledo in 1x12, and didn’t show up after Jughead almost died in 2x21. I just didn’t think Riverdale could make me like her. But then we saw her in her greasy glory and she tied up Penny to torture information out of her/possibly murder her (I know she just removed an eye in pure “eye for an eye” fashion, but we didn’t know that at the time) and I was like, “Oh, I like her” and “Oh wow, Jughead is really his mother’s son”. She charmed the pants off me is what I’m saying. Like, she’s still a terrible mom because, y’know, abandonment, guilting Jughead when he finds out about the drug business, that one time she grabbed him by the hair, etc, but I do love the way she tries, even if she fails constantly. I think that’s one thing I like about the Joneses in general: they know they’re shitty and they try, which you don’t see from most of the terrible Riverdale parents. And I love that she has the same “the ends justify the means” attitude as her son, but she just has a broader selection of crimes that she’s willing to do, so they end up at odds. Like, remember when he was 100% ok with what she did to Penny, even when he thought she murdered her? Because I do, and it was great. Gladys is fun in all her interactions with everyone (god, that scene when she first meets Veronica and was like “great, more teenagers” was just *chef’s kiss*), and I love watching her on my screen. I really hope she comes back.
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Mainly FP, but I could also see Alice and a Gladys/FP/Alice OT3, although my dislike of the current Alice will get in the way of that. But if we’re talking season 1 to 2A Alice, I could see that. Because oh man, season 1 to 2A Alice’s level of bitchcraft and perfect masks vs Gladys’s take-no-shit attitude and openness about who she is, like damn that’d be compelling and electric and sexy as hell.
My non-romantic OTP for this character: Jones family feels, baby! She loves her kids and would do anything for them, even things they would prefer her to not do! And omg, her scheming with Jellybean when she first comes back to Riverdale was just fantastic, even if it never really went anywhere. And I love seeing her interact with Jughead because they are so, so similar and he clearly takes after her. Like, I know Riverdale tried to pull a “he’s similar to his grandfather who he never met” thing with the writing and the being sent the Baxter Brothers books, but I do think he got introduced to his love of reading and was encouraged to do it by Gladys, considering FP’s “he takes after his mom” comment and the way we see Gladys casually reading, and I kind of hate that Riverdale tried to take that connection away in favor of his dumb grandfather. And omg, the way Jellybean presumably learned about cars from her and had her little Serpent jacket and had these gang kids answering to her. Like, Jellybean was a little gang princess and I want to know how that happened because I bet Gladys was involved. I especially want to know about it due to her “I never wanted you in the damn gang” comment to Jughead.
My unpopular opinion about this character: I mean, I like her even though she’s a terrible parent, and I know that’s not always a popular take due to the whole terrible part. She’s just so charming and fun, I can’t help it. I will say that I get peeved any time I see a fic where Gladys encouraged Jughead to be in the Serpents/recruited him because she flat-out said she didn’t want him in the gang in canon. Like, it’s not a dealbreaker, and there have been great fics that do it, but it still bugs me.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: God, I’m still so bummed we never got to see her interact with Betty one-on-one. Like, I want to see Gladys size up Betty in a “hmm, are you good enough for my son?” and “I thought he liked dumb hot men like I do because he takes after me” while Betty is sizing her up in a “You abandoned Jughead and broke his heart, will you pull shit like that again?” and “How much do you love and want to take care of Jughead?” way. And I want Gladys to evaluate Betty in a “How much are you like your mother?” and “How much does my son’s taste in women resemble his dad’s taste in women?” (the answer is a lot, btw) way while Betty is seeing the similarities between her and Jughead. Like, they’re two ruthless, smart scary ladies who care about Jughead, and I want to see them go toe to toe. Gladys would probably approve of Betty because of her ruthless, protect-Jughead-at-all-costs attitude combined with intelligence and her obvious love for Jughead, but I’m not sure what Betty would think of Gladys. Bonus points if part of this mutual evaluation occurs while they’re talking about something benign like their shared interests in cars or Jughead’s motorcycle or Jughead’s writing.
My OTP: FP, hands down. There’s something weirdly charming about them? And they used to commit armed robbery and other crimes together, that’s so great and so Riverdale! I know Gladys spends all of her time in 3B lying to him, but there’s still something sweet about the way they interact, y’know? You can really see how they wound up together as two criminals who want the best for their kids but just don’t know how to be good parents. Idk, I love criminal couples, and they’re great for that.
My crossover ship: None? Idk, man, I rarely think about crossover ships. Maybe another scary milf? Or a dumb but hot guy, that seems to be her type when it comes to men.
A headcanon fact: Gladys won’t be there for Jughead’s graduation because she’s still ambiguously on the run (?), but she will send him a postcard with no return address that congratulates him on his graduation with a “I knew you could do it” vibe, maybe something like “I knew you could do it. Now go kick college’s ass”.
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I put it off for so long. But now I’m all caught up. And I hate this show more than ever.
A summary of my live reactions for 4x13:
Donuts for breakfast? No wonder you have nothing of substance in your head.
The morning tryst is fine, but realistically, who shows up at school that early before the bell rings?
“These stonies” ARE YOU KIDDING? Jughead is supposed to be a writer and this is the dialogue the show writers are giving him?
Wait, so is Betty just going to sit there and watch him write?
Ah, yes, Toni Topaz, still losing personality with every passing episode.
Jarhead and Bison. Oh, OKAY.
I told you not to accept that laptop from Bret without question!
The random shot of equipment in the chem lab, like why even bother, as if Archie could pass a science class.
This show has gone so far off the rails I don’t even really know why Veronica is spiraling.
Is it really worth dealing with Stonewall Prep for this shit? Was I ever supposed to believe that any of these people would truly be able to get into an Ivy? Just gtfo of Riverdale. Go to a SUNY campus.
The Betty/Donna diner scene is shot really beautifully, at least.
Ah, yes, Bret, the ultimate creep.
Jughead’s hair looks so much better sticking out of the beanie than completely tucked in.
Aw, a scene with the Bughead background music. Haven’t heard that in a while.
As if the core four could have fun at a Stonewall party. Should have listened to Archie, should have stayed home.
So does Jughead stage his disappearance and death now?
How can Bret be talking like that that when he’s wearing THAT
A summary of my live reactions for 4x14:
Jughead is not allowed to call his own beanie iconic
So three teenagers just walk into their houses at 3 AM in their underwear? This is like a setup for a comedy routine.
“Jughead couldn’t just lend you one of his grungy flannels” LOL see now this is the content we came for
Charles? You would trust Charles with this ploy?
So your boyfriend/friend is “dead” and all signs lead back to you so you’re having an open discussion in the diner?
Man, Penny Peabody and Evelyn Evernever as the ultimate supervillain duo would be so good.
DON’T KILL YOURSELF, ELMO. Who writes this shit?
If Betty is going to be saying incriminating things on the phone, shouldn’t they all be using burner phones?
How can this supposedly squeaky clean FBI agent be so casual about a murder weapon out in the open? This whole subplot is so dumb.
To be fair, Veronica, you ARE running an illegal underground liquor operation.
The stonies have definitely drugged several people.
Donna’s shirt is really nice though.
Jughead’s “body”. Hmm okay.
An oversized Sherpa jacket suits Betty. But the owner ain’t dead.
A summary of my live reactions for 4x15:
Lol Cheryl getting involved in this non-murder coverup would complicate things.
And, what, FP just believes Donna? Pshhh. More scheming.
Here we go with Alice, continuing to be the worst parent on television.
Meanwhile Jughead is chomping down on snacks in the bunker in the woods while writing ten more manuscripts.
Oh, COME ON. Toni and Jughead were BARELY friends. Just common gang members.
!!!!A WILD SWEET PEA APPEARS!!!!
OMG AND BETTY JUST TALKED HIM OUT OF RAGE. GIVE ME SWEETBEE FRIENDSHIP OR GIVE ME (UNSTAGED) DEATH!
Who even cares what else happens when Sweet Pea is here! I just wish there was explanation for where he’s been this whole time!
omg Sweet Pea is the best. Please just write an alternate storyline where he is the star of the show.
We all know super detectives Jones and Cooper planned this out properly, they wouldn’t skimp on the details!
Wait, did Cheryl have the students make a mock beanie for that locker memorial?
Okay…Betty and Archie would probably sell this better if the actors didn’t look grossed out by each other while kissing.
Veronica, on the other hand, is overselling it.
Betty made Juggie a new beanie THIS IS SO KAWAII
Wait, is this really how the writers are setting up Barchie? They’re supposed to catch feelings this way?
Lol solving a murder by milkshake evidence.
A summary of my live reactions for 4x16:
I hope someone got Jughead some Flintstones multivitamins to account for the loss of Vitamin D due to lack of sun!
So basically what you’re telling me is that everyone who matters in Riverdale is in on Jughead’s “death”
This reveal scene in the parlor must be the longest scene in Riverdale history. It’s refreshing to get an episode that isn’t the usual 45 second clips spliced together over 40 minutes.
Three Forsythes in one room!
Interesting that they have to keep saying Tracy True and not refer to Nancy Drew when Nancy Drew is also a show that airs on the CW
As we live and breathe, Jughead Jones walking the halls of Riverdale High.
Lol wait so Jughead went from provisionally accepted to Yale to probably not graduating? I hate this show.
A summary of my live reactions for 4x17:
Cole/Jughead gets the first singing line in the musical? What is this bullshit?
Sweet Pea makes another appearance!! With cutoff sleeves!!
I get that the Salem Witch Trials is on brand for Jughead, but I would have chosen the Trail of Tears essay given the Serpents connection to the Uktena, but no one even remembers that, I’m sure.
SWEET PEA IS PLAYING BASS (I always thought he would be a drummer though)
Wait…they’re just running from room to room in different people’s houses? Just because it’s a musical doesn’t mean you can keep violating the time-space continuum!
Okay, Cole/Jughead singing is the funniest thing to ever happen on this show.
And all this on the musical episode just to set up Barchie?
So after four seasons Betty and Archie are finally supposed to remember why they were so “close” to begin with?
Who thought it would be a good idea to build Betty and Archie up into these thoughtful, concerned, characters and then completely ruin them this way? That’s predictable and so unfair to them.
Cutting back to the pilot and season 1 Betty and Archie and comparing it to now really just underlines why Barchie didn’t become a thing. That should be pretty obvious.
Also, Sweet Pea is not only in the front row, but enamored by this?
A summary of my live reactions for 4x18:
When did Reggie get an accent?
LOL WHAT so are Barchie laying shoulder to shoulder contemplating if they’re going to get it on?
Ugh. Let me guess. Ethel is only appearing in this episode to be villainized. And there go all my SweetE/Swethel dreams.
WHAT DID I JUST SAY.
Oh, NOW, you can’t stop thinking about Betty? Two years too late, Arch.
Cheryl saying something of value for once?? Who are you and what have you done with Cheryl Blossom?
I just want to live in a world where SweetE is canon. Lol what am I saying, canon writing would ruin SweetE.
Someone tell the set designers that it’s poor science practice to leave empty glassware just out on bench tops.
Principal Honey isn’t going to expel them?
Fangs got into a university with a scholarship? Riiiiight.
Okay, so all that Barchie setup for will they or won’t they to settle on they won’t. So basically just a waste of time? Can the writers just stop trying to resurrect that once every season? It’s a minor annoyance that adds nothing.
Yeah, nope, Daddy will never change, Veronica.
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aliyah, what is your opinion on riverdale? esp the musical episodes if u have seen them. i feel like u have good nd funny takes i wanted to know some of your thoughts pls
omg i feel honored to give my opinions. so i stopped watching riverdale half way through season two because it started to get convoluted but lucky for u my dear sweet friend i have seen enough clips of the musical epsiodes to give a good enough opinion.
SO
they’re all shitty with shitty singing and the only good one is the actor that plays Kevin ( the actors name slips my mind ) but it isnt surprising because he has a musical background LIKE FOR CHRIST SAKE HIS BROTHER was Jack Kelly on broadway at some point ( if i remember correctly it might have not been newises but he was still there )
Heathers is one of my favorite musicals so I was rightfully pissed with the way they went with it all they did was sexualize the teens to THE MAX while still using the high school version of the show ( for some reason ??? ) like whatt the fuck was that almost threesome in the middle of the fucking auditorium ????
as for Carrie i do not know much about the musical I only know maybe two songs from the actual show BUT they still did fucking horrible with it LIKE no hate to the actress that plays Cheryl but they girl keeps singing parts that aren’t correct for her voice which makes her sound awful.
I did not see any of the Hedwig they did besides the fact that Kevin got a lot more singing time along with screen time and he deserves that he was my fave before i gave up on the show. 
They way the portray characters that are underage as reliant on sex is disgusting and should not be in a show that revolves around teenagers. Yes teenagers have sex BUT they take it way to far in the show where you cant go one episode without seeing more than 3 sexual scenes NOT only is it uncomfortable IT is also disgusting that they rely so much on the fetish of watching teens have sex that it just clogs the show.
EVERYTHING THEY DO DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. EVERYTHING. In the beginning the show was really good, they did fairly well with the way they portrayed teens and how they went about solving mysteries but around mid season too any good writing that they had was thrown out the window i honestly do not even know how they got more than three season with the way the show has been written since that point.
also all that back and forth of will they wont they with Archie and Betty is just a mess, they keep cheating on Jug and Veronica AND THE LAST EPISODES OF THEM I WAS SO READY TO HAVE MY BARCHIE RIGHTS BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE MOMENT ANYONE GIVE A HETERO COUPLE RIGHTS WE ARE DISAPPOINTED
both bughead and varchie are toxic. and Betty should have deadass broke up with him after whatever the fuck that solo was in the Hedwig episode and stayed broken up with him.
the only reason i really give barchie rights is because 1. im a sucker for the childhood friends to lovers trope 2. i grew up reading the comics so to have them not as the staple relationship of the show is strange for me
As they are trying WAY WAY TO HARD to push the good girl tries to fix the guy from the other side of the tracks while also turning into a bad girl trope and it is not working 
varchie is just a relationship that happened because Jug and Betty are together and no i will not hear an argument
the show sucks.
i only keep up with it through what people say on tumblr and when tv show/movie commentary channels on youtube do a video on it, so thats why i sometimes reblog stuff about it or post about it and why i know enough of what happens.
I M J U S T S O U P S E T riverdale had so much potential to be any amazing show but with lazy writers the only thing that is even slightly keeping peoples attention is how insane literally every episode is 
i did not think i would rant this much or even get this upset but it is SOOOOO infuriating.
SOOOOOOOOO I HOPE YOU LIKE THIS RANT :) 
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staliasjeronica · 4 years
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Riverdale S4 Ep11 Thoughts *Spoilers*
- I’m excited about the quiz show but I wish it wasn’t just to show off how smart Betty is. I know she’s smart, all the girls are, but if they dumb them down to make Betty look good…
- Archie has such a good heart ugh the greatest boy in Riverdale and nobody can compare to him!!! 🥺❤️
- Jughead mentioning Bret after him and Betty have sex. We love Bret x Jughead lmao
- Betty looks so good though can she please have her hair down all the time pLEASE 👀❤️
- Betty looks like Lili way too much and I don’t like that… Bughead is basically just Sprousehart and that’s not a good thing
- NOT CHERONICA ASKING ABOUT ALCOHOL TO AN ADULT AT THEIR SCHOOL NO LESS??? Whatever, they look good so I’ll let it slide for the best girls in Riverdale
- “Boy in the river” is too soft but serial killers, which has probably been done so many times, isn’t…? The desperation to cling to the black hood is potent
- JUGHEAD AND CHARLES SCENES??? YESSSS WE LOVE WHEN THEY SHOW THAT THEY’RE ACTUALLY SIBLINGS!!!
- TOM’S BEEN WORKING CONSTRUCTION??? SINCE WHEN??? Also not Archie replacing Tom with Frank?? And with NO warning??
- Veronica is such a cutie we love!!! And finally solid proof that Toni is smart!!! Betty taking Cheryl’s answer though smh isn’t there usually a rule against that??
- Betty talking about Bret to Charles gives off enemies to lovers vibes. I don’t genuinely ship it but the idea of it though is interesting. Anything to shake things up. Also, is she really trying to get Charles to help her cheat just because she feels entitled to getting into Yale??
- NERVOUS JUGHEAD 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 
- “Brown Hood” ew… also none of those other interesting stories were good enough but we’re going to STILL have to hear about the dumb black hood? LET IT GO
- FRANK THAT IS NOT YOUR FUCKING HOUSE YOU CAN’T JUST INVITE PEOPLE FOR BEERS EVEN IF THEY WORK AT ANDREWS CONSTRUCTION
- VERONICA CAN YOU JUST FUCKING STOP COMPETING WITH YOUR FATHER AND ALSO TELLING HIM WHAT’S IN IT??? WE KNOW YOU’RE SMARTER THAN THIS BUT THE WRITERS ALWAYS DO YOU DIRTY
- It’s kinda funny how much Betty is like Bret, Like, entitled, selfish, pretends to be higher than everybody else, etc… anyways enemies to lovers 😜😜😜
- Of course Bret bought his way into everything, wasn’t it obvious?? Also how exactly did Charles get information on that if the dad wouldn’t have wrote it down??? Like, the only way Charles would have been able to get that would be if he snooped around. It wouldn’t be official (or hidden and official) paperwork...
- So Betty can milk her father being the black hood but jughead can’t use it as a story despite technically being a victim of it himself?  I mean I get it but like… is it really THAT BIG of a deal? 
- NO THE SPEAKEASY?!!!?!!? Hate that Veronica never wanted to be a criminal but now she’s illegally going to sell alcohol and knowing her annoying ass father and how much the writers love this boring rivalry, he’s going to find out and ruin it.
- Fangs 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 It’s good to see that he’s still alive smh. But, damn, they really had to ruin any possibility of Kangs like they never even got a true chance to be good :(
- THIS DUDE LOOKS LIKE HE’S IN HIS 20′S??!?!?? KEVIN???!?!?! SIR?!?!?!? BE CAREFUL?!?!!?!?
- Betty hounding Jughead for lying when she constantly lies to him I—
- BETTY REALLY TOLD JUGHEAD HE DOESN’T DESERVE TO GO TO YALE IDSLFJHAKFSHKF OMG IS BUGHEAD FINALLY UNRAVELLING!?
- This “make Tom a second father to Archie” is so weird like—other than Harv getting into a fight with one of the writers on Twitter (which made my thoughts on it more negative lol) it’s just… he has his own son that he never talks to (especially after being in a CULT) and it rubs me the wrong way… it’s nice for Archie to have a father figure but they were kinda setting FP up to do that and now suddenly out of NOWHERE it’s Tom?
- Betty not getting into Yale because of who her father is and not her grades :( That would such. But it makes sense...
- Jughead, you act like Bret would care if Betty found out that you’re using her father for a story without her permission.
- YESSSS BETTY DESTROYING HAL’S GRAVE EVEN THOUGH IT WON’T DO SHIT AND SHE WAS LIKE HIS BEST FRIEND A LITTLE BIT AGO BUT WHATEVER. See, people, this is a badass scene. THIS. Her actually being angry and venting, not destroying others for no reason. This. 
- ARCHIE IS A HIGH SCHOOL TEENAGER HE CAN’T BE AROUND ON THE SITE ALL THE TIME DAMN
- Tickled…..?????? 5 GRAND??? SHIT THAT’S... mmhm, Sounds kinda creepy but 👀
- I feel like Bughead is doomed because suddenly they’re actually being kinda cute and like 1% interesting and usually when that happens the person or couple I don’t like ends up either dead or something
- So how the fuck can Betty get into Yale considering she said in the flash forward she’s in Yale?
- CHERONICA DANCING WE LOVE TO SEE ANOTHER DANCING SCENE!!! We love the best dressed and most beautiful girls in Riverdale!!!!
- See, this is why you don’t tell Hiram SHIT but the writers insist to make them seem dumb (so Veronica can come up with a plan and make it perfect but she tells her enemy/father what she’s doing so he can stop her? Sure… makes TOTAL sense…) so that Hiram can come in and fuck everything up. I get that it can’t come easy because this is a TV show but for the love of God Hiram will never fucking leave will he???
- He really has to destroy it???? What a fucking loser lmao he’s such a baby
- Ooh Veronica is pissed! She looks hot when she has that angry look I say that’s my baby she’s gonna retaliate!! 
- I’m low-key scared for Kevin… like he’s always used by his dates.
- Cheryl being the smart bitch she is we loveeeee!!!
- YES REVAMP THE BROTHEL. There’s nothing that says female empowerment about Penelope but um whatever this is actually a really good idea… WE LOVE A CHERONICA TEAM UP
- I know Cheryl’s gonna ask Toni but Toni’s a part of—wait… PENELOPE?? No. JUST FUCKING LET HER DIE OFF PLEASE. Lmao but just imagine if someone decided to go have sex in the bunker and Penelope is just like “oh hey”
- FRANK JUST FUCKING ATTACKED TOM??? So the ex-sheriff isn’t gonna press charges?? Umm okay
- Frank literally stfu don’t guilt him into not feeling bad for you, you’re a fucking thief
- I legit just cringed when Betty said she was Jughead’s cheerleader that was… ew
- Mmhm… would Betty cheat?? Maybe. Also WHY would Alice fucking do that? I mean I guess it matches season 1 Alice but it’s still dumb that her s1 personality came out of nowhere and was villainized
- Oh Betty totally cheated didn’t she………… “THE LIMIT DOES NOT EXIST” MEAN GIRLS!!!
- WHY IS VERONICA GIVING IT TO BETTY WHEN SHE’S THE ONE WHO’S ANSWERED ALL OF THE FUCKING ANSWERS? But lemme guess they’re making it seem like she cheated but suddenly she’s smart enough to answer all of the questions
- LOWKEY THAT BUGHEAD MOMENT WAS CUTE?!?!?!?!? JERONICA’S CLOSE YOUR EYES
- Yup, Betty was suddenly a fucking genius mmhm I knew they were gonna pander to her smhhhhhhhh
- YES ARCHIE STAND UP TO FRANK!!!!!!!!!! And please apologize to Tom 🥺🥺
- I BET YOU NO ONE CLAPPED FOR VERCHONI 😭😭
- So how does she get into Yale if they think she cheated?
- PUT ON LEAVE WITHOUT PAY JUST BECAUSE OF THAT???? THIS IS A HIGH SCHOOL THING INTERFERING WITH AN ADULT THING?? THAT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE?? NO ONE IN THE ADULT WORLD WOULD CARE… NOR WOULD IT EVEN REACH YOUR JOB LMAO BUT OKAY
- WAIT KEVIN IS HELPING FANGS GET MONEY WE FUCKING LOVEEEEEE?!???!!?!?!? HE CAN PAY FOR HIS MOM’S SURGERIES!!! Fangs family background info coinciding with Toni’s here we go!!! Also Fangs stop being a cutie challenge!!!
- THEY REALLY THOUGHT THAT THE MASK… THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE PENELOPE…. WOULD HIDE HER?!?!?!?!
- TONI HAS A LINE!!!!! AND A NOD TO HER BEING A SOUTH SIDE SERPENT AND GREAT WITH TECH
- The camera making Bret look monstrously huge lmao
- Jesus not a fucking duel….
- So is this scene before or after Betty “hits Jughead”
- BARCHIE HOLDING HANDS. In the gif shown before the episode there was nothing platonic about that look. Of course with context… it’s kinda… inappropriate but YESSS BARCHIE RISE!!!!!
WHO WAS THE WRITER FOR THIS EPISODE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE WE CAN TRUST.
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Sea Lion + Archie omg please please please
list en . songs that fit characters even slightly make me go CRAZY
the sad reckless energy of sea lion…. the absent mother lyrics…... (look what i did, ma / look what i did to my hands, i broke ‘em / you gave me the stone, gave me the chisel / didn’t say how to hold ‘em) the imagery of hands and mental spiraling….. the themes of selflessness and giving and giving until you deplete yourself and trying even then at your own expense……. (didn’t say to give away every piece of the puzzle / till i was left with nothin’ / but i took it upon myself to crush it up / and distribute the dust)
the rampant recklessness of trying to prove yourself....... (i’ll take him out for some gasoline / trade this cow for some magic beans / gonna make mom proud of the deals that i made / ‘cause i’m just a modern day johnny appleseed) the few lines alluding to using sexual encounters as coping mechanisms…. (no, i know no one said it was gonna be easy / but sweet jesus who wants to sleep with me? too many moves to learn / not enough people to put ‘em on) there’s literally a line about ‘cryptic gang men’ imdkvs hello (brains and bloods and cryptic gang men/ tzars and warlords breaking bread) and a few musical references, one piano-leaning technically, but more actually singing-related…..
the end of the last verse tapering off to a tentative hope and resolve…. (but i sing a different song / of how the wheres and whys of now all prove i don’t belong / but i’m staying / i’ve planted seeds and plan to watch them grow) paralleling archie’s s4 arc with the community center and sudden dedication to riverdale as a town despite all the ways in which it’s hurt him, to honor his dad’s legacy……
(the rest under a cut bc it be like that sometimes)
i’m DEVASTATED. the song literally starts out with an audio clip that says ‘a healthy distrust’ which makes me go insane as a general theme because apparently(?) some sea lion mothers leave their young if they can’t get enough food for themselves or something, which isn’t that bizarre, but they’re also prone to being a bit sensitive to disturbances from their resting spots (psa not to bug seals if u see them on beaches), not coming back from feeding offshore and abandoning their pups if need be. and while i don’t think mary’s a bad person at ALL or that she’s even a bad mother, but you could say she’s not a bad mother because she hasn’t really been a mother at all. but due to her being a generally cool person, i forget that absent parental roles (whether it’s just one or both) can really fuck you up in your developmental years.
and from season 1 episode 1 to the present, we see adults time and time again take advantage of and / or manipulate archie, often twisting his goodness specifically to their gain at the expense of himself. and yet despite this, archie actually seems to continue to just blindly trust adults around him if they seem relatively harmless at first, or even just harmless to him or his loved ones?? he’s starting to be a little wary now that season 4′s rolled around with like frank or whatever, but he’s still very open and forgiving, even when he tries to put his foot down every now and again. but it’s super fascinating to me that this is the case, as you’d expect his trust in any adult figures to be virtually demolished at this point, whether it be by active harm to him / those around him, or passive non-action that leaves people hurt / him feeling like he’s the only one that will actually do anything to help anyone. yet he continues to trust, despite a little healthy distrust being pretty appropriate if not encouraged at this point in his life. 
the entire vibe of this song to me is fending for yourself. which is the definition of most of the kids on riverdale, but the combination of symbolism specifically (music/singing/broken hands/absent mother/dead father/the reckless selflessness that almost feels more like a desperate attempt to prove one’s self worthy of importance) feels more on brand for archie than any of the others to me. and that illustration of not really knowing what to do with yourself because you were never taught how, at least not pertaining to what life ended up throwing at you (sometimes literally just because the things you end up needing to learn could never have been anticipated by your parents, especially in archie’s case), so you’re just gonna try everything even if it kills you is so BEAUTIFULLY portrayed, so lyrically fluent and succinct, i’m just . going thru it . and the closing lines of resolving to work with what you have to help make the world a better place, even if it’s mostly guesswork that’s gotten you this far. how you’re gonna make the best of what’s happened, what you couldn’t control, and people are gonna do what they do and probably accidentally make things worse, but you and your life and your actions have a complicated elegance to them now that almost feels like only you can understand as a result, but you’re still moving at all and it doesn’t feel like you’re killing yourself to do it anymore and that’s what matters, even if only you can truly know how hard you’ve worked just to do that.
(i’ve decided i’ve been invited to my own resort / where knights can leave their armor neatly piled by the door / and every woman, child, and man will gather by the shore / and study how sea lions swim in cursive)
idk i just think it fits archie in all the right places and i think it’s rly neat.
#anonymous#answered#long post for ts#this got out of hand#listen u enabled me i went for it#i want a fmv so badly...........where can i buy some TALENT#i could TRY to make one of those lyrics + screencaps things yet i wouldn't know where to start to do that i'm rly that dumb huh#why do i even have a brain what is the POINT#but this song...........it fits a lot of my faves but it's archie on the mind hours#also me? projecting familial issues on archie? it's likely sisters!#i probably have a mix of archie and jug's parent issues but like#archie's almost feels like a weird non-opposite but opposite subverted version of my parental issues so it's free real estate#an actual trying their best parent who was there for u but also kinda accidentally installed a more harmful brand of selfless love 4 others#aka fred#and an absent parent who u still love but like their absence rly fucked up ur familiarity with that gender itself or just +#+ fucked up ur entire family dynamic bc suddenly a dynamic that ideally runs on two adults leveling with and helping each other is reduced#+ to just one and now ur either parentified by the parent or take it upon urself to do so in order to compensate for that hole in the famil#+ and it just fucks up ur sense of identity and even worth and is all around almost covertly fucking u up in tiny but THOROUGH ways......#ANYWAYS#aka mary#half of that is headcanons but it's also statistically common so#idk the song fucks me up archie fucks me up it's a fun fun time#this entire monstrosity of a post is a prime example of my coping mechanisms spelled out we love to see it#but also???? thank u so much for the ask?? i love any opportunity to analyse archie and it's just a bonus if i get to rant abt music too#ur an angel & i love u#meta#i guess??#archie andrews#riverdale#mine
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vhaetyung · 5 years
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Riverdale 3x12
Just wanna get this out of the way, but these are my own opinions. If you don’t like/disagree with them, that’s fine. That is 100% your right, but please don’t yell at me - I just wanna write my thoughts :)
Okay I never write long ass reviews about things cuz I usually can’t be bothered (and honestly does anyone really care?) but I really liked this episode of riverdale and I’m very shocked by that. I stopped taking the show seriously a while ago, and it honestly hasn’t felt like a “real” show to me for a while. Obviously I kept watching because it’s just so entertaining, regardless of its flaws. But 3x12... wow idk it felt like a “real” show. A bunch of different plot threads were explored; we got to see some character and relationship development with characters that aren’t normally in the spotlight (Kevin, Josie, Moose); Choni got to actually do something more than just existing... it was a breath of fresh air. I’m gonna try organizing my thoughts as much as possible but we’ll see.
We got to see the midnight club come back together in a way that ended up making sense. I like how it tied this gargoyle king back to the sisters of quiet mercy cuz it felt consistent with what we’ve been told so far.
Kevin and Moose had a good arc. Moose coming out (despite being forced out of the closet) ended up being good for his relationship with Kevin (for like 10 min but still) and honestly I’m glad he was finally able to do that. When Moose kisses Kevin I’m public, my heart- 🥰 Even though I never really shipped them (Kevin could to better imo) I was sad that Moose had to leave, if only because of how sad Kevin was (well done Casey, you are a star). Despite the bizarre nature of the show, Kevin and Moose’s relationship progression and end in this ep felt natural. I understand why things went the way they did.
Josie focusing on her music and is seeing the toll it’s taken on her hit home for me. I know what it’s like to be so hyper focused on one goal, having all this external pressure to succeed - it’s detrimental going through that without some kind of support. I’m glad she found that with Archie. Seeing how defeated she was when she didn’t get the callback, and then Archie saying exactly the right thing... oo hit me right in the chest.
Speaking of Archie, he was so soft and supportive and understanding and where has he been this whole time?? I loved his connection with Josie. It, again, felt real because they do have some history (working together in season 1). Tbh I went into this not wanting him and Josie to be together right away but I’m weak. They’re good together.
Choni - omg CHONI! Okay so obv their whole relationship has been taking place off screen (pretty much). To me it’s felt like Cheryl just does what she wants and Toni just rags along for the ride, oh and also they’re in love. They both have such strong personalities but it felt like (to me) that Toni lost her morals altogether after being with Cheryl (and that could just be because we haven’t seen them develop on screen a lot). But when Toni went off at Cheryl, yes! THIS is the Toni we first met, the Toni with strong opinions, a loyalty to the serpents, the Toni who’s not not just along for someone else’s ride. She called out Cheryl on her bs and how it has affected her (getting kicked out of the serpents). I loved how Cheryl was willing to do literally anything to fix her mistakes - I really felt the love there and her fear of losing Toni. I also liked how Cheryl used her privilege to allow Toni the opportunity to PROVE herself, rather than just give her the easiest shortcut. (Also I loved Toni’s college interview look).
I was surprised at the general lack of screen time for the core four (compared to normal) cuz even when other characters are brought, the core 4 have their storylines explored the most. I liked the little reprieve from that and really being able to focus on other characters LIKE Kevin, Moose, Josie, Choni. It was a breath of fresh air, it felt balanced. I wish to see more of this in the future - exploring ALL the characters as equally as possible. Who knows if it’ll happen but it was successful for me in this ep
That’s all I really have to say rn (because it’s midnight and I have an 8:30 lab in the morning) but those were some of my thoughts on why I really liked this episode of riverdale. Again, please don’t attack me if you think I’m wrong :)
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riverdaleroundup · 6 years
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Riverdale Roundup 20x21: “The Killing of A Sacred Deer”
So Riverdale was on last night. I confirmed did not watch. I couldn’t watch it on my tv and I was far too lazy to get a stream up so like here we are. I go into my PVR to watch it this morning and it’s like “ no information found” and i’m ready to fume but when I pressed on it it still played so it was just god playing a little funny on me. Anyway, when I went on the internet last night people were like shitting their pants about this episode so i’m expecting something good. I’ve got my tea. Lets go.
Apparently I forgot about every single thing that happened last episode because their little recap has me straight shook. Like Reggie shot fangs? In what world?
So the Black Hood rolls up at Cheryl's house fitting to kill her and I’m just down for that. I’ve recently decided to stan Cheryl. I love the villian with a heart of gold. Please see season 1-3 Alex Karev.
So the black hood is coming after Cheryl with a casual axe because he apparently misplaced his gun, and he hacks up her lovely bedroom door. Cheryl goes all hunger games and whips out her bow and arrow and shoots the guy. I mean she could have done us all a favour and killed the guy so we can all move on to greener pastures. Like they aren’t going to drag this shit into season 3 are they? I don’t need another pretty little liars 7 seasons of dealing it, A, or the A team, or charles or whatever that stupid show morphed into.
Cheryl is the most casual girl ever. She just calls up Betty and is like “ yeah so the black hood just tried to kill me and i’m going to go hunt him in the woods. Want to do brunch on saturday?”
So Reggie didn’t shoot Fangs. I mean I guess it makes sense. Reggie was on the ground and Fangs got shot in the stomach so that would have had to have been quite the angle.
Hiram Lodge is like giddy about this whole riot. It's like christmas morning for the little guy.
Betty is uber convinced that her Daddy is the black hood and is worried that someone is going to murder him since Hermione is offering up a casual million dollars for the blackhoods head on a platter, preferably silver. Preferably polished.
So Veronica sees Midges mom wandering on the streets looking coked out as fuck and plot twist she was the one who shot fangs. I mean she thought he murdered her daughter but I mean that evidence is so damn thin.
Reggie is hiding behind a dumpster because bitches are out for him. He calls Mr Lodge and is like “ Daddy help” but Hiram isn’t his daddy anymore. He’s got to deal with this ish on his own.
All the football players + Kevin are out looking for Reggie. They end up at the high school where Sweet Pea and his boys are fitting to burn the place to the ground. Seems a little extreme but SP is cute so I probs would have allowed it.
Principal weatherbee shows up with like a bat or something and is like “ What the fuck? All you skanks better leave rn or i’m flip.” Honestly it’s very Mean girls with the principal and and the bat and i’m honestly surprised he doesn’t send them all to the gym for a seminar on confidence. He will keep them there ALL NIGHT. He can’t keep them past four. He will keep them there till FOUR.
Eventually the gang finds Reggie at Pops and honestly no one should be surprised because there are only ever 3 places anyone could ever be in Riverdale. It’s shocking that Pop had to call Archie to tell him that Reggie was there. They had basically knocked every other possibility off the list.
Betty gets a call from an unknown number and she thinks it’s the black hood, but I mean come on. Her annoying ass ringtone didn’t go off so we all know that it wasn’t going to be BH. It’s FP calling from a pay phone being like  
“ My bitch ass little son is a slithery lil snakey snake and ran off. Is he with you? Also your dad is in the ER.”
Betty promptly gets shook because she knows that Cheryl shot the black hood with an arrow so if Hal is bleeding from the shoulder shit is about to go down.
A bunch of crazies roll up to pops and Archie is pissed that Jughead hasn’t reigned in all his little friends but get shook guys. It’s the Goolies or whatever they’re called. I honestly forgot about them. It seems like decades ago since everyone put on their favourite vintage outfits and went out to watch the street race.
So the football players are trying to barricade the shop and poor pop tate is triggered. The guy has been through enough. Wars. Riots.The whole thing. But he knows how to deal with this ish. They going to lite this place up.
The Goolies are ready to take some names but boom. The Sheriffs cruiser appears out of nowhere and the silver fox fires his gun into the air sending the goolies running.
Hot dads for the win. FP and Keller are everything. Fred is there too but everyone needs a duff.  I would like to make it clear that I audibly out loud said “ yas hot dads unite” before Kevin mentioned anything about the trio. Just want to put that out there.
Betty goes running to the hospital and into her dads room but oops get shook. Hal isn’t there, but Dr Mcstuffins is dead. Poor guy. Asked too many questions. Sounds like every single one of my relatives and neighbours.
The phone beside the hospital bed rings because the black hood just magically knows that Betty has arrived in the room, and he’s like “ listen bitch, it’s past your bedtime. Get your skinny ass home or ima kill your mom. Okay. see you in 10. Byyeeee”
Jughead is brooding at the bar when his phone rings. It’s freaking Alice Jr, Penny Peabody.
She’s all like “ Hey babe. Listen i’m still kind of pissed at you so I kidnapped your girlfriend and was thinking that i’m cut her up into little pieces if you don’t come meet me by the docks.”
Jughead is all like
“Omg no not Betty!”  but Penny is behind on the times and just has Toni. At this point Jughead is just like
“Lol sorry bitch. You’re barking up the wrong tree. Maybe call Cheryl.”
Betty comes home and Alice is just chillin on the couch, enjoying her evening. Betty is like
“ We gotta go right now.”  but Alice already has popcorn on because Hal is going to show them home movies.
So Hal’s real name is Harold? What’s sad is that I find that to be the most shocking part of this. So Hal's dad murdered the conway family because they were sinners? What did these bitches do? Not recycle? So Hal went up to lil janitor before he became big janitor and convinced him that it wasn’t Hals dad who killed the guys family but some rando.
So Pappi Cooper killed Papi blossom and became Pappi Cooper as a cover. Does not make sense to me but okay. I feel like someone would done their ancestry tree and put this ish together but whatever.
So the Conway family knew the truth about this shit and blackmailed the Coopers about it. So those bitches need to die.
Hal has darkness and Betty has got it too so watch out kids. Elizabeth might kill next. I mean she already sent Chic to his death ( maybe)
Hal is like “ say it Betty. Say it out loud” and she’s like “ a vampire” jk. He’s the black hood. BUT there’s another black hood. Are they working together or is this just some random hoe? TBD.
Oh heck BH 2 is attacking Archie! Thank God Fred was there to take the bitch down. BUT makes the fatal mistake of not unmasking the guy when he had the chance.  Fred gets shot AGAIN but thankfully ex Sheriff Hot pants gave him a bulletproof vest.
Alice and Betty are confused about why Hal is telling them all this and why he wants it recorded, and he’s like
“So everyone will understand when we’re gone, or what happened to us” or some bullshit like that. I don’t remember the exact words but it was very menacing. So like is he thinking a double murder suicide type thing or? That’s the vibe i’m getting tbh.
Jughead shows up to the docks and Penny has the Goolie with the heavy eye make up with her. He’s like fitting to taze Jughead but Juggie brought Katniss with him so they Gucci.
Penny just wants to live her life and sell drugs. If they don’t let her do that then the Goolies and the serpents are going to rumble, not a midnight, but at dawn. You know. To keep things fresh.
I forgot about this small fry guy and that he’s coming after the Lodges. Also forgot all about Veronica and Hermione shit talking Hiram while he’s out. So like Hiram is going to expose Freds affair with Hermione but Fred was separated at the time and i’m pretty sure he’s not divorced. So really it was Hermione who was cheating on her spouse. I mean yeah it’s not great for Fred but he wasn’t going against HIS family.
Veronica and Hermione are still fighting when Small Fry breaks down the damn door and is like “ your daddy killed my daddy, prepare to die.”
Hermione is a terrible shot and misses the first 7 times but she gets the bitch eventually.
So Sweet Pea and Jughead are fighting about what to do about the Goolies when FP walks in the tells everyone that Fangs died. The poor baby. They vote about what to do and they decide they’re going to fight the bitches. So I mean, shit it bound to get lit.
Although Alice just found out her no good rotten husband has murdered like a ton of people she can still verbally assault him. GOD HAL YOU ARE SO STUPID.
“Are you going to kill everyone who has ever jay walked?”
And damn, bringing out FP. That cuts deep. Kill it Alice. Oh shit Hal don’t kill Alice! Betty beats him over the head with a fire poker!
FP is stressed! So there are serpent reserves? Who would that be?
So Jughead calls Hiram and is like “ Hey buddy. I know you’re the one making all this shit happen so like let’s make a deal.”
Hiriam comes home and baby boy Andre is dead! He runs upstairs all freaked out that he might have to say rip to his fam but they’re just at the table, waiting for him to come home and clean up the dead body in the study. That’s a blue job.
So Hal is being arrested and Archie is like “ omg he just tried to shoot my dad like 20 mins ago” and Betty acts all shook like she doesn’t already know that there’s another black hood. Pull it together sister.
She gets a call from Jughead and he’s like “ I love you bitch. I ain’t ever going to stop loving you biiiitch” and then he says he’ll see her soon. COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN YOURSELF REAL QUICK PLEASE?
Oh Hell. Jughead is giving himself over the Penny and the Goolies?  So they’re just going to beat him to death and then murder all the serpents come morning? That seems extreme.
Hiriam took care of the body with the less hot ( but still hot) more crooked sheriff and Veronica is done with his shit.
Oh hell. FP carrying jugheads body? He isn’t dead. The bitch can’t be dead can he? It’s only the second season.  Well damn guys. Guess we’ll have to see.
I’m once again not reading this over because I have things to do today. Thank you and goodbye.
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