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#nine year old anakin wasn’t evil
kittenfangirl20 · 7 months
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Anakin haters have some pretty disturbing opinions that really make me want to facepalm. One referred to nine year old Anakin as Baby Vader when at that point in his life he wasn’t displaying any traits that could hint towards his dark fate, you only know about this because the Original Trilogy where he was already Darth Vader came out first, not because he was showing signs that he would become Darth Vader at nine years old. In fact Yoda even stated that at nine years old Anakin’s fate was unclear. Then to make it even worse, I saw another one say that Anakin doesn’t know what love is and he never loved Padmé. So are we saying that a character who at nine years old said that it was sad that not enough people in the galaxy helped each other out has no concept of love? Also weird how they think that Anakin has no concept of love and never loved his wife, yet what made him really start to waver when he was Vader was finding out that his son that represented the love he shared with Padmé didn’t die along with her. These people want to ignore the story that Star Wars is telling in order to make it look like Anakin was always evil.
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ahsoka-in-a-hood · 2 years
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My reading on the council’s assessment of Anakin goes something like this:
- They were absolutely getting a sense of foreboding with him. It’s not just narrative, it’s magic. It wasn’t particularly specific. Just vibes.
- He’s an exception to the rule but in a composite kind of way. They have their standard policy regarding age and stuff, but they were prepared to see him. If he’d been overage but an orphan, for example, they’d have been more inclined to take him in. If he’d had a good family but been emotionally well adjusted and clearly wanted to be there, they’d be more inclined again.
- So, I kind of summed up the two main sticking points already. But for the first: I do not believe they were like, judging him for missing his mother. In fact I think they had no desire at all to separate him from a mother he was missing and did not think that would be good for him. That was precisely the sticking point. That’s kind of what I don’t get, fandom-wise.. what, it was wrong for the jedi to separate them, but it was also wrong of them to not want to? He missed his mother. He wanted his mother. They honed in on that immediately. He didn’t fully want to be there. Of course they were hesitant to be the cause of that separation? Now I know there are takes on the whole attachment thing. But I have seen nothing in the text to indicate that they inherently look down on people raised in small families so whatever.
This is genuinely how I read it. Anakin standing there thinking he wants his mom, the jedi feeling that, and thinking well then he should be with his mom.
- This is An Interpretation, but frankly the more I sit with it the more convinced I am: Anakin was already touching the dark side as will bby grogu. This is not because he was an evil nine year old, this is because he was instinctively reaching into the force with his fear, which is part of how they define the darkside- use of the force being inherently tied to emotions according to the very basic worldbuilding. The use of the force is not a simple safe thing. It will return what you feed it. I imagine it like creating neural pathways, feedback loops. They ask him how he feels and he says he feels cold, and the cold is completely consistently associated with the darkside in the world building.
I think they understood that he was traumatized. They know how fucking trauma works, their people regularly inject themselves into warzones and shit. They got that he was anxious. They knew it meant that for him it would be more difficult for him to learn to use the force in a healthy way that would not exacerbate his anxiety. That his starting place was disadvantaged. And that deepening his connection to the force would fuck him up even more if they weren’t careful. That it made force training dangerous for him. And for others, because power is always dangerous for others, that’s what makes it power.
TL;DR I read it as them seeing that Anakin would probably be better off with his mom and therapy, not cosmic powers. and they were right.
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theemmtropy · 1 year
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Wasn’t Anakin also a Very Successful General that was in charge of a Very Successful battalion? Like? Not responsible? Not trustworthy? From day one he was willing to sacrifice himself for others (case in point, the pod-race, you know, when he and his mom were S L A V E S on a hell planet and he was nine years old). He literally fought in a war for you, won countless battles, saved countless lives, and then you basically say he isn’t worth your time? With no good reasons as to why? And this is all after you betrayed his trust in you multiple times? I, as a normal human with pretty good coping skills that hasn’t been traumatized by war or slavery would be PISSED. And I get that they’re Jedi and they have a ‘no emotions’ clause in their religious text (which is bullshit since the whole council seems to make most of their decisions based on emotion), but seeing how many Jedi became Sith due to no one listening to their problems without just telling them to ‘let it go’ (because that totally works) makes me think that maybe the Jedi are the problem here.
The fact that they let Anakin get ‘so close’ to the politicians (as a child, mind you) in the first place makes me think they’re just stupid. Too stuck in their sense that they’re right that nothing could be going wrong. Sith? Surely not, they’re extinct! Corrupt politicians grooming a child? Please. He’s an elected official, definitely not Evil. And yes, Anakin committed horrible acts. No excuse there. Murder is still murder. However. They raised him to be a weapon, used him as one, treated him like one, and then were surprised when the weapon they made was then turned on them. Because it turns out the weapon was actually just A Guy who doesn’t like being treated like an object, and one of the only people who in his eyes treated him like a person was a Sith Lord. Yeah. They failed Anakin long before he failed them.
All of this. The Council makes victims of the people who trust them, and Anakin is the just the one example.
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doorsclosingslowly · 3 years
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There’s someone waiting out there with a mouthful of surprises
The Jedi recovered the bisected Sith apprentice from Naboo and imprisoned him underneath the Jedi Temple. A young Anakin finds the way down to his cell.
Anakin is twelve when he declines one of Chancellor Palpatine’s invitations for the first time. The resulting devastation looks wrong on his kindly old face, and Anakin wants to take it back—besides, it’s just an opera and a glass of bubbly, where could be the harm?—but he remembers golden eyes pleading up at him and then a skull-patterned face scrunched up into a splotch with how hard it’s trying to hide utter desperation, and he repeats his invented excuse.
It doesn’t matter that this one-sided rivalry for Anakin’s attention that has developed between the mutilated imprisoned murderer Sith (slave) he has befriended and the Chancellor of the Republic is honestly deeply stupid, from Anakin’s point of view. It’s not like he couldn’t spent time with them both: his missions with Master Obi-Wan have increased in number recently, but still, he’s been talking to Palpatine once a month and he’s also managed to fit in the regular trips down below to the high security carcer. It’s ridiculous.
But Anakin understands loneliness—and fear and attachment and jealousy and all the other disturbances of the peace he shouldn’t feel—he didn’t have friends for years in the Temple, after all, and it makes sense, at least a little, that Maul is scared he’ll be forgotten down there when Anakin has any other option. Not a lot of sense, because really what he’s saying is that he thinks Anakin so disloyal he’ll just ditch the only real friend he made on Coruscant, and Anakin would get back at him for the insult if it wasn’t for an energy gate perpetually between them and the fact that it’s a just a little bit unfair to tussle with a guy crawling on the floor because he doesn’t have legs… The jealousy is still kriffing stupid, but if anyone knows stupid fears it’s Anakin.
So he declines, and he keeps declining, and two years later the invitations stop.
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Anakin is eleven when he starts smuggling droid parts down into the top security oubliette underneath the oldest parts of the Jedi Temple. The first time is, in retrospect, a terrifying accident. He’s built a tiny moving starfighter that Master Obi-Wan just glanced at and said, “Well done,” nothing more, like Anakin didn’t need to use pincers to weld the tiniest engine parts together, like he didn’t cast the alloy all by himself. He sulks in his room, the ship buzzing at his head, and then remembers that there’s at least two more people who might like to see. Palpatine is probably busy, and that leaves…
The Sith prisoner is a far more appreciative audience than Anakin’s Master. His eyes glint and widen when he sees the presence next to Anakin’s head, and he even pulls himself off his berth: pulls himself off the edge and tumbles down head-first, and then panting and with his nails dug into the duracrete he drags his torso over to the energy trellis that separates him from Anakin.
He looks up at the droid in childlike wonder.
There’s a tenderness to his questions that he hasn’t shown Anakin up until now, and it’s not just the hoarse panting of exertion that takes away the last dregs of his usual intimidating mien. He wants to know everything, from the full-size model of the ship it was based on to the assembly process to details of every single one of Anakin’s new projects.
“I can—I could feel the movement of the droids I built, in the force,” the prisoner whispers reverently. “They were a constant presence when I was young.”
“Right? Right?” Anakin is excited. The Jedi have been trying to tell him that droids don’t have force presences, and he’s almost believed them by now, but if he’s not alone in feeling it then he was right. Master Obi-Wan was wrong. He knew it.
He brings down the next droid he builds—yes, two days after the first trip he did realize he brought something easily used as a weapon to the dangerous Sith prisoner, but all he did was talk mechanics with Anakin so clearly it’s harmless—and the next and next. He watches the prisoner drag himself across the floor. He sees the abrasions covering the prisoner head to abdomen—covering him on every inch of the body he still possesses—the injuries that he must be sustaining from his only mode of movement. He feels the shame radiate out from the prisoner down on the floor, painful, cloying. He watches him try to play it all down.
One day, Anakin brings down a ship that he designed himself to meet the exact dimensions and functionality of a short humanoid’s prosthetic thigh. He pushes it against the barrier. It moves through.
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Anakin is almost ten years old, and he knows that down in the bowels of the Jedi Temple there lives a monster. The Sith is caged so deep below that no-one can hear his growls and mutters, his whimpers, his pleas, or so Master Obi-Wan promised Anakin yesterday when he’d worked up the courage to ask about the sounds he keeps hearing whenever he closes his eyes. He’s locked down so deep that the shivering of his despair and the gall of his hatred must be a hallucination. He’s been caged for months, first interrogated daily, then found useless and forgotten. But not by Anakin.
(He saw the monstrous enemy of the Jedi for the first time when he’d just turned nine. It pulled its black hood off its bright head and panicked Master Qui-Gon and Master Obi-Wan, and Anakin was sent away for safety that quickly turned into cosmic warfare. Before that moment, he knows, on Tatooine it tried to run Anakin over with its bike. After that moment, he’d seen the monster—or what remained of it—being carried out of the Naboo palace on Master Obi-Wan’s back, moaning and delirious with pain, but dangerous nonetheless. It had bitten Obi-Wan so hard he’d flung it reflexively to the ground.
Down there, it had begged. “Honor,” it had rasped. “Give me honor. Give me death.”
Master Obi-Wan had picked it up by its arm, and it had whimpered in protest, “I fought with honor!”
Obi-Wan had ignored it. Anakin would have, too; this thing had killed Master Qui-Gon, and whether it had done so with honor or not didn’t matter when Master Qui-Gon was dead. It had killed the Jedi who’d won him, who chose to train Anakin, who was the only guarantor of his future safety, and he didn’t know what would happen now, and he hated it.
It had grown more frantic then, terrified. “Kill me, Jedi, please, when my Master—”
And Anakin had swallowed a cry of shocked recognition.)
Anakin will be ten in two months, and today he’s gonna see the monster again. It’s not the force that calls him down staircase after staircase to the oubliette below the oldest parts of the Jedi Temple. He’d be able to explain if it was the force, if he got caught, he thinks, but that’s not what’s going on. It’s just homesickness, and loneliness, and it is that word.
The way he said it.
Anakin has met more Masters in the last year of his life than ever before, has uttered the word more often than on Tatooine, and he’s doing pretty well, he thinks. He doesn’t flinch with his body when he says it and not with his face either, and even the highest Masters—there it is again—they can’t feel the acid in his force presence anymore.
He greets Master Obi-Wan in the morning and he bows to Grandmaster Yoda whenever they meet.
He doesn’t talk about his childhood. He doesn’t talk much, nowadays, to anyone but Master Obi-Wan or his teachers. He knows he’s weird. He wasn’t on Tatooine, but here… He doesn’t know the things the other padawans do, and his reflexive associations, his interests, his memories shock them. There’s no point, Anakin has learned, in expecting people who can say Master without galling—who don’t need to pretend enjoy it—to listen to him. They’ll never wake up in cold sweat and feel for the bomb that was cut out of their neck, that was injected into it while they were awake and their mother cried, that had so often almost gone off. They don’t cry for their Mom. They’ll only shush him when he talks of his past.
When he talks of his fears.
Of himself.
They’ll never understand him. No-one will. No-one will let him be the Anakin he really is, without fussing over him and muttering and looking like he should know better by now. No-one wants anything beyond the parts of himself he can salvage that are untainted by his past. The parts that don’t remember his mother.
The only person who listens to all of him is Palpatine, and even he often doesn’t know what to say.
No-one will understand, possibly, but…
The monster that lives down below the Jedi Temple had forced out Master like the word tastes of fire and dread.
Like it heralds pain.
The monster is a fellow slave, Anakin is sure. He’s the only being on Coruscant who might understand; the only person who will let him be whole. He’s killed Master Qui-Gon, yes, but he didn’t have a choice, just like Anakin wasn’t allowed to disobey his Master and neither was Mom or Kitster or Beru or anybody else back home.
It was so obvious, the moment he said it.
The monster’s a slave.
Point: Anakin is so tired of having to pretend he never was a slave.
Point also: He just found a map of all the layers of the temple in a garbage chute, wedged in a decommissioned droid’s dataslit. A map that shows the oubliette for ancient evils.
Point also also: Master Obi-Wan’s fast asleep, and Anakin can’t get his thoughts to stop racing.
The monster’s a fellow slave.
Ergo: it’s time to sneak down and make a friend.
What must be hundreds of meters below the current Jedi Temple, at the bottom of the bottom-most staircase, smells faintly of sweat and boredom and despair. The only illumination Anakin can make out is a set of force trellises, and if the schematics he found were right then that’s exactly the spot that he’s looking for.
Pulling his hood down deeper just because it’s chilly and definitely not because he’s nervous and needs something to fidget, he sneaks closer.
Victory!
The Sith’s inside the cell. He looks just like the attacker Anakin remembers, with a red-and-black face and some horns and a scowl. He looks completely different, too: he’s naked, or at least his torso is. The lower half of his body is just missing. Did the Jedi—but no, Anakin can dimly remember Master Obi-Wan mention the way he beat him. That he’s still without prosthetics, even though his scars are well-healed… Anakin knew a woman who’d survived a bomb blowing off her leg, on Tatooine. She lived off of fellow slaves’ charity, for a few months. Her head wasn’t all there anymore from the pain, Mom told Anakin, and her Master had just let her leave. Why invest in a prosthetic when you’re not getting any use from its recipient?
The Sith is doing better than her, at least, even if he’s missing way more flesh. He’s doing pull-ups off the head piece of his callow berth. His yellow eyes gleam in the soft light of the force trellis when he looks over. When he notices Anakin. For a long moment, he looks stunned, and only then he remembers to snarl.
“Hi,” Anakin says.
The prisoner puffs up his defined arm muscles, as well as he can when he’s still hanging off the frame of his bed. He must have decided that dropping down onto his torso—and probably his face—would be even less dignified, though, because he stays put, sweaty and glowering out at Anakin from under his armpit, like he’s desperately trying to look threatening and tough in an unfamiliar situation where the other person has all the power.
It’s a scene Anakin has known intimately for most of his life.
“I’m not here to hurt you,” Anakin says.
A beat.
Right.
“The Jedi didn’t send me,” because in his situation that’s what Anakin would most like to know. The Jedi are not this guy’s slave masters, but they do have all the power over him right now.
“I was a slave too, before they took me here. You can trust me,” and at least that gets a reaction: the prisoner looks absolutely apoplectic and even opens his mouth. Finally! He’s angry, which isn’t ideal—Anakin should have remembered that some slaves don’t want to admit they are—but they’re talking!
But the Sith just closes his mouth again.
He keeps his sullen silence for what feels like hours while Anakin tries one conversational gambit after the other. He just can’t have blown his one chance at talking to someone whose mouth makes the right shape for Master. Anakin refuses to accept that.
But it grows later and later, and Master Obi-Wan will wake up at some point, and he doesn’t have to concede defeat for forever, after all, but maybe for today…
“Fine.” Anakin puffs out his chest. He should say something soothing that’ll buy him a foot in the door next time, but he’s been pleading and pleading, and it hurts. “I don’t even care if you don’t want to talk. I’ve got plenty of friends. Chancellor Palpatine asked me to come over for tea just yesterday!”
The voice is so threadbare that he almost misses it, but it’s there. The Sith clears his throat. He sounds more sure and velvety when he repeats his plea to Anakin. His golden eyes are so wide it looks painful.
“Wait! Repeat what you just said!”
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Anakin is nineteen when he climbs down into the bowels of the Temple for the last time. He hasn’t slept for two days, barely even closed his eyes, because on the insides of his lids is his mother, writhing, pleading.
No-one up in the Temple can give him any help. All they have to offer is platitudes about Uncertain the future is and Let go of attachment you must, but it’s his Mom, and she’s being tortured! She’s dying! She can’t be dying! She’s Anakin’s Mom!
He’s pleaded to be sent to Tatooine on a mission, but Senator Amidala’s protection detail is more important Master Obi-Wan said, and he can’t just go against the will of his… He can’t go. His Mom’s dying every moment he closes his eyes and he can’t go.
Maul is his last hope.
No-one will even notice that Maul’s gone. He’s been locked up for a decade now, and only the meal droids and Anakin still climb down to his level. Anakin’s friends with the meal droids, too, and he can definitely talk them into keeping silent about the Sith prisoner’s disappearance.
Maul’s a fighter, and he was able to find them on Tatooine and follow them to Naboo so he must be able to find Anakin’s Mom, too, wherever she’s been dragged off to. He’ll be able to save her.
He’ll—
Anakin has already sliced the force trellis control panel and turned it off when the fear grabs him. He’s spilled all his nightmares of his mother’s death, has shared the only plan for her survival. He’s received the assent he was sure to get. Now, he’s helping Maul put on the smuggled prosthetics that have been hidden in the stuffing of Maul’s prison berth, kneeling down before him.
And suddenly, all he tastes in the air is raw hatred.
He flinches. The trellis must have functioned as a shield from Maul’s presence before, keeping Anakin from realizing the true depth of Maul’s anger, the extent of his strength.
He could kill Anakin right now. He could attack the temple, and it would all be Anakin’s fault.
The frailty and humiliations of the prisoner’s mutilated body have lulled Anakin into reacting with kindness. He’s seen a man who is weak, helpless, and of course he offered help.
The cadence of Maul’s voice has made him sound like a friend.
But he’s the Sith who slaughtered Master Qui-Gon.
He’s filled to the brim with hatred and jealousy and pain, the force around them screams, will never release them to meditation like Anakin has tried and tried to do; he’s everything the Jedi Council saw in Anakin that day a decade ago and that he’s tried so hard to bury. He’s a Sith.
He’s warm.
It’s not just the hand he rests on Anakin’s shoulder but the very air he expels. Anakin expected the dark side of the force to be frigid, the way his own loathing and terror have kept him shivering and cold, but this is a hearth: protection, purification, an almost magnetic pull. It wraps around them. He shudders again.
“Do not be afraid,” Maul says, and from the soft look in his eyes he has misunderstood completely. “I shall find your mother, apprentice. You will do admirably while I’m gone. Just remember everything I taught you.”
And then, the darkness curls around Anakin again, hot and possessive. “While I’m gone, don’t talk to Palpatine.”
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Anakin is twenty-three when he decides to brutally murder the Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic. His wife is laying in the delivery room, holding the boy twin—holding their baby boy!—while he strokes her hair reverently, and there is his Mom beside him, holding the girl twin—holding their baby girl!—and next to the door, scowling, stands Maul.
“Do you want to hold her?” Mom asks Maul gently. She knows him best now, and if she decides Maul’s standoffishness towards the twins—his twins!—is shyness rather than dislike, then Anakin will forgive him for not cooing over the babies—his kids! His and Padmé’s kids!—like any rational person would.
“Even His patience runs out one day,” Maul whispers.
Anakin’s hairs curl in shocked recognition, and he doesn’t even need to hear the word, but—
“I told you, Shmi, he started talking to Anakin as soon as he arrived. Somehow I managed to keep them apart, to interfere with the attempts at molding him, but the very fact He showed interest must warn us… As soon as he learns of this birth, and His spies are everywhere…” Maul turns back towards the door, palms laid across it as if he could keep the gate shut. The force burns with shielding hatred. “My Master will come for your children. Soon. Palpatine likes them young.”
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padawanlost · 3 years
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So I am probably in the minority here (I may even be the only person who thinks this, lol) but I honestly do think Anakin had some legitimate cause for being aggrieved with Obi Wan and for mistrusting him at times. I mean in TPM Obi Wan literally bad mouths him to Qui Gon in front of the kid, in AOTC his rights off his terrifying dreams, and then there's the Deception Arc in TCW. (Continued)
Pt 2: I honestly think people are so hung up on this idea of Obi Wan being the "perfect" everything (Jedi/Master/human) that they put down anything that is wrong in their relationship to "Palpatine's manipulations" and aren't willing to even consider he MIGHT just have given Anakin just cause to be angry, hurt or distrustful of him.
I think people mistake the idea of holding Obi-wan accountable for the decisions he made as Anakin’s master with holding Obi-wan accountable for Anakin’s decision. These are very different issues, but when you point one out people get immediately defensive about the other. Let’s say you mention Obi-wan should’ve been aware of the effect Palpatine was having on Anakin and people usually respond with ‘it wasn’t Obi-wan’s fault Anakin killed younglings’.
Yes, Anakin is completely responsible for his own terrible choices but it’s hard to explore Anakin’s rise and fall without noticing how other characters also made some questionable choices. The main one being allowing an old man unrestricted private access to a little boy. Even if the old hadn’t been an evil sith lord it would still be considered a questionable parental decision.
Such a dichotomy. [Anakin] is the most fearless man I have ever fought with … yet a part of him remains that small, frightened boy who left Tatooine eleven years ago. The boy [Obi-wan] knew, to his shame, he’d sometimes failed to reach. [OBI-WAN KENOBI ON ANAKIN SKYWALKER IN KAREN MILLER’S STAR WARS: CLONE WARS GAMBIT: STEALTH]
In terms of Obi-wan failing to properly connect with Anakin, even Obi-wan recognizes. He knows Anakin had issues he had failed to address. So it’s not hate for us to also recognize it. If anything, it makes Obi-wan more admirable and humble to able to openly admit he made mistakes with Anakin.
“I just…” Anakin stopped. He took a ragged breath. “I thought you would be proud of me.” I am proud of you. Obi-Wan wanted to say the words. They were true. He was proud of so much in Anakin. But now was not the time to tell him that. Or was it? JUDE WATSON [JEDI QUEST: THE SCHOOL OF FEAR]
Obi-Wan’s gaze warmed. “As you do, Padawan. You never give less than your best. I’m proud of the Jedi you have become.” Anakin was moved. His Master so rarely spoke this way. “Thank you, Master.” Jude Watson. The Final Showdown
They had deep communication issues. Obi-wan didn’t know how convey his love and support and Anakin didn’t recognized the Jedi’s way of showing affecting after being raised by loving, supportive mother.
Obi-Wan had tried to talk to him about it, but the boy would just shut down. His eyes would turn opaque and the corners of his mouth would straighten into a thin line. He would seem very far away. Obi-Wan did not know how to reach him at such times, but they were infrequent and passed as quickly as a rain shower. When they’d met, Anakin had been a warm-hearted nine-year-old boy with an open nature. He was twelve and a half now, and the years had changed him. He had grown to be a boy who hid his heart. [Jude Watson’s Deceptions]
Perhaps [Anakin] would never have a Master-Padawan relationship as deep and trusting as Obi-Wan had with Qui-Gon. Perhaps Obi-Wan kept him as a Padawan in order to fulfill a dying wish. But maybe it didn’t matter how it happened. He should not focus on what he didn’t have. He had this. This was his. And that was something. He would work hard. He would be a great Padawan. And Obi-Wan would come to love him. He would make him do so.  [Jude Watson’s The Trail of the Jedi]
[Anakin] had worried that Obi-Wan did not have room for him in his heart. But Shmi’s smile rose in Anakin’s mind. Hearts have infinite room, my son. JUDE WATSON’S THE TRAIL OF THE JEDI
And because their issues Anakin felt misunderstood.
Anakin’s eyes lifted to the Jedi Temple. What did they know, Yoda and Obi-Wan and Mace, of this? Of this moment of agony, being torn from his wife. He fought for them and alongside them, but they no longer had his heart. They no longer understood him. JUDE WATSON. SECRETS OF THE JEDI
Another issue people seen to disregard is how young and inexperienced he was. He was a 25 years olf grieving the loss of his best friend, OF COURSE he wasn’t perfect. but point that out shouldn’t be viewed as an offense against the character. the fact Obi-wan wasn’t perfect is what makes his relationship with Anakin so interesting and realistic.
People should rejoice over the fact Anakin and Obi-wan had such complicated relationship. There would be no star wars without it.
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transmalewife · 3 years
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"don’t bring real life fascism and opposition to it into it" Are you high? The original villains of this franchise were modeled after Nazi Germany. Star Wars has ALWAYS been about opposing fascism. And if you think otherwise, then I sincerely doubt you understand what politics in media looks like.
Have you even read my post? I specifically mention how the original villains and some of the new ones fit the definition of fascism. Also, even though the empire was very obviously inspired by nazi germany in aesthetic, their ideology is kind of sanitized of any real world political implications and kept to an all encompassing pure evil, so that the heroes can be made into a universal good, fighting to restore the system that was there before, without having to consider for a second how that system might have encouraged that ideology to flourish. To bring in real world politics into it for a second (in a way infinitely more relevant than antifa as ill explain in a moment) it's comparable to america fighting fascism in europe without really examining how the eugenics it was based on actually started in the US, and how capitalism allows for and even encourages sorting people into human and subhuman categories. Which is actually why we're dealing with a resurgence in fascism in real life currently, mostly stemming from america. So the empire in the original trilogy is overtly inspired by nazi aesthetics, I won't deny that, but even in the OT it has very few ideological similarities (or really, very little ideology at all). Mostly bc in 1970's america nazi germany was a really simple cinematographic shorthand to show a government is evil. It follows that the rebellion would share some aesthetic similarities with the allied forces, while very firmly being in favor of restoring an old system and not instituting a new one, to avoid any uncomfortable self reflection in the silly sci fi movie or worse, any potential assosiation of the rebellion with a communist revolution.
However, neither the prequel, sequel, or original trilogy villains share aesthetic similarities with modern day fascism (firstly because for a topic like that to be safe to explore in a silly sci fi movie you have to wait for a good 30 years so it's not too soon, and second of all bc modern day fascism has a really pathetic aesthetic) nor is the in universe oposition to it in any way similar to antifa, who are in support of a revolution to build a new system instead of desperately trying to restore the old one as it crumbles in their hands. and ideologically, it's even further from it. modern day fascism's core tennet is racial purity, (not the cult of personality single dictator thing that was the most obvious ideological similarity between the emire and real world fascism) and while that topic is alluded to with the empire's having only humans in prominent roles it's never actually explored in any great depth in the movies.
Ideologically, how is palpatine a fascist? what is his ideology even? it really does boil down to a universal evil kill everyone power for power's sake evil wizard politics. Even his genocide of the jedi is a very clumsy allegory for the holocaust bc the jedi were killed for being an actual credible threat to him as an organisation, which jews weren't in nazi germany. Dooku has that human supremacist motivation explored in the rots novel, but again it's not really shown in the movies or series at all. This is why it's extremely tone deaf to compare anakin or palpatine to modern day fascism, and why comparing the pro-establishment, conservative in the most literal sense of the word, pro-liberal democracy jedi who opposed them to antifa is borderline offensive.
Now, finally coming back to anakin. aotc anakin specifically, since that's where i see the term "baby fascist" applied more often, usually in the context of "how could Padme marry a baby fascist???". and yeah, how could she marry a mass murderer, a child murderer? those are terms strong enough to cause the outrage you want to, and actually useful for exploring her motivations and how fucked up the whole situation was, you don't need to compare him to the most destructive and evil political ideology in human history. And I say compare, because it certainly isn't character analysis. The modern idea of a fascist is "disilusioned young white man with a penchant for murder" and Anakin certainly fits that definition, but stopping there is ignoring so much context the whole thing gets absurd. The reason young white men in america are the group most likely to become fascists is because they are the most priviledged group in society, and in recent years increasingly being told that they are, while still being fucked over by capitalism like we all are, so they really don't feel like they're reaping the benefits of that priviledge (even though they are and everyone else is worse off compared to them). Anakin is not in any measurable way priviledged. His distrust in the system, his political ideas stem very directly from him being part of an oppressed group, a former slave, then being forced to assimilate into the system that ignored that slavery while his mother still suffers under it. (and also from palpatine telling him how cool it would be if he had absolute power over the galaxy since anakin was literally nine years old). His lust for power (which, very interestingly never actually involves HIM getting more power, just enforcing it for "someone wise") isn't a lust for more power than he already has, it's a lust for any political power to protect people like him being hurt by the current system. His masacre of the tuskens, while undoubtedly racially motivated (and as such, handled extremely poorly by the narrative), is not actually genocide: his aim wasn't to wipe the entire tusken population, nor is it in any way comparable to fascist violence: it's not politically motivated, or caused by hatred of the minority group in question for their very existence, it's very direct revenge for a personal hurt done to them. In fact, considering tatooine has no legal system we know of and its inhabitants solve problems with casual extreme violence, Anakin was probably justified (within that society's mindset, in which he grew up) in murdering the tuskens that actually killed and hurt his mother in an extremely violent way. (i mean the tuskens killed shmi violently, not that anakin was justified in using extreme violence specifically) He undoubtedly went too far in killing the entire village, and as a jedi he should know better than to kill in revenge at all, but he knew that it was the only way the actual murderers would be brought to justice, since tatooine is outside the jurisdiction of the republic's legal system, and has no legal system of his own. This is personal, emotional, desperate revenge for an actual harm done to him by (most of) the victims, not a calm and cool extermination of an (in his mind) subhuman race for being that race and no other reason. It's deeply, profoundly wrong, a sign of how low he can fall when pushed, directly causal to how he reacted when padme was in danger in rots, and a massive red flag for padme herself in aotc. It is not, however, fascist violence, it's homeric violence.
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early morning with leaders of the Rebellion
Even in the early morning hours, there was loud conversations in the hallways outside their room. It was cold, so cold, cold enough that everyone felt cold, not just him. The bed was too small for the two of them. 
And there was nowhere else that Anakin Skywalker wanted to be. 
Padme stirred a little in his arms and Anakin shamelessly wrapped comfort and calm around her. She needed more sleep and it was early enough, she could get more sleep before she had to get back to work. 
Unfortunately, his wife was strong-willed and was already blinking her eyes open. “Ani . . .” she said, sounding resigned. “I have to get up.” 
“Not yet,” he argued, tightening his arms around her. “You don’t have your first briefing until 0700.” 
“You’re very sweet, but I still need to get up. I was hoping to catch Luke and Leia for breakfast before they leave for their mission, and Winter mentioned some problem with our supplies,” Padme said, rolling over and gazing up at him. 
Anakin slowly stroked the side of her face. He had loved Padme Amidala since he was nine years old. Been with her since he was nineteen. And through the years, she had only become more beautiful to him. More essential, even as he had learned how to let her go. To be the face of the Rebellion, to be an amazing mother to their children, to be everything she wanted to be. 
“Don’t suppose I could join you at breakfast? I am a general, you know. I’ve got clearance,” Anakin said, smiling as he nuzzled her. 
Letting out a laugh that sounded like bells, Padme drew him in for a kiss. 
“Yes, you can join us. It’s not a briefing. Just a chance for me to spend time with my family, which isn’t complete without you.” 
“Thank the Force,” Anakin said with a grin. “You’ve always been Leia’s favorite parent, and ever since Luke started flying with Rogue Squadron, my old war stories haven’t seemed so cool.” 
“That is nonsense and you know that,” Padme said, sitting up and running her hands through her hair. “Leia loves you and you two are always in sync. And as for Luke . . . you’re his hero and always will be.” 
He propped himself up on an elbow and smiled at her. “Yeah? Not you, the leader of the Rebellion?” 
Padme rolled her eyes a little and got out of bed, heading to their closet. “Anakin.” 
“I know, I know, I shouldn’t fish for compliments or act like I’m not loved for myself,” Anakin said, sitting up and tossing back the covers. Shivering, he got up and joined her at the closet. “But it’s hard, having Luke and Leia go on missions and be in danger . . . it was hard enough getting used to that with you. It’s worse with the twins.” 
Dressed in her jumpsuit and vest, Padme turned and stroked his arms. “It’s been hard for me, too, Ani. Especially when I’m the one ordering them onto these missions . . . or when they’re volunteering for the missions.” 
“I suppose having children with our combination of genes wasn’t the best idea,” Anakin said as he yanked on his pants. 
“Wrong--it was the best idea ever,” Padme said, turning him around to kiss him quickly. 
Anakin smiled slowly at her. “Yeah?” 
“Yes,” Padme said firmly. “I wouldn’t trade a day with you, or the twins, or anything that’s happened. Because everything we’ve had together has been perfect.” 
Even though he knew there was a lot that wasn’t perfect about their life--after all, their entire family, including the friends who were like family, were part of a rebellion against an evil galactic empire--her words warmed him. 
So Anakin leaned in and kissed her slowly, pulling her close, until a swift knock sounded on the door. 
“General Amidala-Skywalker? We’ve just received a message for you?” 
“Padme, I really need to talk to you--”
“Anakin, I hope I’m not waking you--” 
With a sigh, Anakin pulled away from Padme at the voices of an aide he didn’t know, Sabe and Obi-Wan came through the door. Padme gave him an apologetic look and touched his cheek before she went to the door. 
Yet as he pulled on his tunic and ran his hands through his hair, ready for the day, Anakin found himself agreeing with his wife. 
He wouldn’t trade this for anything. 
End.
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evabellasworld · 3 years
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Storm of the Republic
Chapter 19
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Summary:  When Tup murdered General Tiplar during a battle, Anakin Skywalker and Captain Rex dispatched Ahsoka, Fives, and Yara to solve the mystery that was plaguing the Clone Army. Meanwhile, Senator Padme Amidala contacted Commander Fox, Commander Tori, Riyo Chuchi, and Dipper to help her continue investigating the death of Palpatine, suspecting that Dooku was behind the evil plot. But when Dooku send an ISB agent to stop them, the team had to race against time to search for the truth, which could alter the course of the galaxy.
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Tapping her foot on the carpeted floor, Padmé bit her fingers as she was seated on the sofa, waiting for her guests to arrive. It was already half-past nine on her square clock and her friends hadn’t arrived yet. With the curfew in place, she presumed they were held back by the patrols.
According to Dooku, anyone who was out after half past seven would either be taken for questioning or executed on the spot. Just last week, a man was shot in the head for buying powdered milk for his baby daughter. In another case, a homeless person disappeared after they were found sleeping underneath the bridge.
It was necessary in order to maintain the peace on the planet, but Padmé felt it was unnecessary. Coruscant was doing fine when Palpatine was still alive. Sure, they were attacked by the Separatist before, but they rebuilt from the damage, except for the lower levels.
The people living in the lower levels were struggling to get fresh air, which contributed to the mortality rate and asthma rate among infants and children. Their waters were also laced with lead, and their houses weren’t built to sustain the damage they received from the upper-level, making them more vulnerable during the Battle of Coruscant.
Dooku had evacuated them out of the disaster area afterwards, but he never mentioned where they went, or what happened to them. Padmé assumed the worst, considering the Emperor is no stranger to cruelty and genocide. She could only hope the folks were surviving this new ordeal.
With a massive blackout, the candles were lit in every corner, including the dining table. Padmé could finally see the stars in the sky, but she felt trapped, like a bird in the cage. It’s only a matter of time before Agent Doherty stormed her apartment and arrested her on the spot for dissent against the government.
Before C-3P0 could check on her, she heard a knock on the door. I hope it’s them.
Padmé took a deep breath and answered the door, finding her longtime friend, Riyo Chuchi standing in front of her, along with Commander Fox, Commander Tori, and ARC Trooper Dipper.
“Hello, Padmé,” Riyo chirped, her arms widened. “It’s so nice to see you again.”
“Riyo, you actually came,” Padmé embraced. “I missed you so much.”
“I miss you too. I was so worried about you, especially since you’re stuck in this hellhole.”
“I know,” she held her hand. “I hope nothing bad happened to you all during this curfew.”
“No trouble at all, Senator,” Commander Fox assured. “We’ve received your message on base and we’re here to help you.”
“Commander Fox, it is an honour to see you again,” Threepio greeted him. “It’s weird not having you around.”
“It’s good to see you again, Goldie. Hope you’re holding up alright.”
“I’m fine, thanks you very much.”
“I’m glad to hear that, Commander,” Padmé shook his hand. “Also, you don’t have to be so formal with me. You can just call me Padmé instead.”
“Then it’s a pleasure to meet you, Padmé,” Tori spoke, smiling at the senator. “I’m Tori and this is my daughter, Frieda, and my best soldier, Dipper.”
Padmé let out a grin as she shook hands with the little girl. “Hello, Frieda. I love your dress. You look so pretty.”
“Thank you,” Frieda replied. “You are pretty too, like a princess.”
“You’re so cute. How old are you?”
“I’m five years old,” Frieda held up five fingers, making her ruffle her hair.
“She’s a clever child,” Padmé praised her, as she led them to the dining room, filled with platters of food on the tables, along with the candles in the middle.
The food she had prepared wasn’t war rations like the four of them were used to. Rather, there were platters of roasted potatoes, lamb shanks, buttered broccolis, and berry pavlova for dessert.
Tori’s eyes widened as her mouth watered at the sight of the luxurious meal. The last delicious thing she ever ate was mala chicken that Lira and Eva ordered from a restaurant downtown. Even then, she had never had this much food before.
“That’s a lot you cooked,” she commented, as she took a seat beside Dipper. “It’s scrumptious. I like it.”
“It’s not much,” shrugged Padmé, placing a baby chair next to Tori. “Besides, you came all the way to Coruscant, so I thought you needed some energy for tomorrow.”
“Thank you,” Dipper smiled at her. “That’s very thoughtful of you.”
“It’s the least I could do, Dipper. Say, I never met you before. Could you tell me a bit about yourself?”
Dipper scratched the back of his neck, looking up at the ceiling. “Well, I’m an ARC Trooper and I like to read books whenever I have time.”
“Really? What books do you read?”
“Oh, I always loved mystery and crime novels. Punishment and Crime is my absolute favourite.”
“I like that book too,” Padmé giggled. “It’s an absolute classic. By the way, I love your hair and your Big Dipper tattoo. I bet you were popular with the ladies.”
“Thank you, Padmé,” he accepted her compliment. “But I’m actually gay.”
“Oh, my apologies. I bet you were popular with the men out there.”
“Well, I wish.”
Fox chewed on his food as he listened to their conversations, reminding him when he was first assigned to Coruscant. But then he remembered why he was here. “As much as I don’t want to interrupt this lovely conversation, we need to discuss our mission.”
“Of course, Commander Fox,” Padmé cleared her throat, as she explained her plan to them. “I want you all to continue the investigation of Chancellor Palpatine’s murder. The Emperor announced to the Senate that he would be more transparent with the investigation, but whenever we demanded answers, he didn’t comment on that.”
“If he didn’t want to say anything, then he’s guilty,” said Riyo, slurping on her drink.
“Which is why I called you all here on Coruscant to help me investigate the Chancellor’s death. I learned from an ISB agent that the case files were kept in his penthouse.”
“Oh dear,” Fox expressed his disdain. “That sounds a lot like a trap.”
“I know, but the place is unguarded, with only sensors to keep away intruders.”
“That is suspicious,” Tori sided with Fox. “For all I know, the Imperials could wait for us when we get there, and that is the last thing we want.”
“I understand your doubts, and I’m aware how risky it is,” Padmé sighed. “But those files could help turn the tides of the war. If you want to defeat the Empire, then exposing the truth is the only way to win.”
Riyo stroked her chin, bobbing her head. “She has a point, Fox. If the entire galaxy learned who killed Palpatine, then we could get as much support as we need.”
Fox turned to Dipper, who was indulging in his dessert. “What about you, trooper? Do you think we should search for Palpatine’s murderer?”
The latter put down his fork as he pondered for a moment, before making up his mind. “We made it this far, so might as well help Padmé with the Chancellor’s death. Besides, I do like myself some mysteries in life.”
“Then I guess we’ve made our decision,” Padmé decided their fate.
“Alright then, we’ll help you with the mission,” Fox resigned to the final votes. “But as soon as we’re done, we’re getting you out of here. Understood?”
“Understood, Commander.”
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padmsanakin · 3 years
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i really love the jedi order. i really do. i love them because they tried to do good; they were selfless and expected nothing in return. they are fundamentally good people who want to do good but how did they fail? what is the reason that the whole world collapsed? the galaxy’s fall cannot be blamed on one person; there are thousands or perpetrators whether is it by active choice or basically just ignoring it. they all contributed to the fall of the galaxy.
jedi as individuals can achieve a lot no doubt; many jedi have received the gratitude of many people around them with their need to do good and be selfless. the jedi are a faction that wants to do good and try to minimise their flaws. that’s what they stand for. but what went wrong is when they refused to face those flaws in the wake of a war and raging corruption. they were basically blinded by complacency which is bound to happen when you have the same person as your head for a few hundred years.
let’s look at the bigger picture, it is established that the senate is corrupt and the jedi are serving this corrupt senate believing that they are good. however, they did begin to notice the warning signs but they were too blinded because it worked for more than a thousand years and they believed it would prevail but how wrong were they. the common theme that occurs over and over again is the force’s will which to say they were kind of using that as an excuse to justify their actions.
i believe there’s a clear line between your religious beliefs and your rules. and that is what i am trying to explore here.
the whole notion that yoda is fallible may be foreign to some but indeed, in some ways, he did fail the jedi by not taking quick enough actions or denying his flaws and blaming others. it happens and it’s perfectly normal after being considered wise, humble and all for a few hundred years. how other people view you affect you and yoda is no exception from that. some rules they impose such as the no attachment rule wasn’t originally in the jedi code before our republic. actually, it’s a recent one in the scheme of time. jedi were allowed to marry and love and they condemned possessive relationships which they did rightfully so. but as time went on, they begin to fear healthy relationships too by creating a whole rule forbidding healthy attachment. if they didn’t , then, why did they take kids when they were babies? they did it so they don’t know how to get attached so it helps them to put their mind to fully become the jedi they want.
and when, anakin comes in who basically is very different from what typically the jedi order is used to, they feared him. the jedi feared change. the jedi thought their method was superior and thus, they forced a traumatized boy to fit into a mold he couldn’t. mistake 1. it’s even more scary to know that palpatine had unrestricted access to anakin since he was a preteen which is creepy in itself because he’s an old man and a child which is a prefect background for grooming. the jedi failed to exert their rights as anakin’s rightful guardian. i have heard people say that the jedi were mostly neutral to him when they were assessing him but is it really when what you are saying to perfectly normal feelings that it is evil to harbour them and make the child feel guilty or disappointed. mind you, we are not talking about an adult here; we are talking about a nine year old child, fresh out of slavery. he has lots of trauma in terms of self-worth to deal with and he didn’t need more people telling him he’s bad and evil, causing his self-esteem to further plummet. yes, he seemed confident in tpm, thanks to his mother, but there is there whole self-esteem problem apparent. in this scene, anakin asks what will happen to me now. and i have heard people call him selfish for that. he’s a child for god’s sake who thinks he will be put back into slavery again after being rejected. that’s really messed up. the responsible thing to do then would have been to say, i am sorry but we can’t train you because our training programme won’t fit you and we do not have the tools or training to cope with your trauma but we are willing to help you get into society and free your mother and then hand the reigns to you and your mother to free more of them.
mistake 2. there is nothing wrong to agreeing to fight a war but recruiting a slave army into is not really acceptable. this further shows their moral failings. i think palpatine is part to blame but we can’t divorce the jedi from the blame since they made the choice to lead the slave army. and i doubt there’s nothing in their code to say that they need to accept a slave army to fight in a war. slavery is wrong. there’s nothing more or less to it. there is no good slave owner. so they were nice to them and all but they still infringed on their basic rights; well for one, they had no rights to start with and most considered them canon fodder as if their lives didn’t matter. somehow that’s easy to overlook, i guess. heck, most jedi were nice to them but never really saw them as an equal or as an person save for a few jedi but still they didn’t care enough to free them. everyone in the jedi order is to be blamed for it because they perpetrated slavery and allowed slavery even within the republic. that’s wrong. weren’t jedi supposed to be peacekeepers and guardians of justice. there’s nothing just about slavery. i think people like to just blame palpatine but the Jedi made the choice to accept it. and they continued to listen to him by using this slave army. and none of them really stopped for a moment and considered that hey, this is wrong and maybe, there are better alternatives to using than a slave army like gathering everyone trained in combat like the battle of naboo because there were no clones there btw so planets must have some sort of military. and if you call these lazy pigs and that they won’t defend them and then, i would ask — then , why are they citizens of the republic, isn’t it their duty?
mistake 3, they refused to admit to their mistakes. for example, the whole ahsoka fiasco where they just said that it’s the will of the force. like, does that make it okay to send a minor into a bureaucratic trap where they will probably execute her without a fair trial. considering they prosecuted her on purely circumstantial evidence. like so they are willing to throw their child to sharks because of a this one flimsy piece of evidence instead of standing by her? oh, and then giving her to a probably emotionally unstable jedi just to see if he can let go. does she even mean anything to them? do they care about her education? plus, the guy that was supposed to teach her was a newly minted knight who has yet to get into the balance of things. i don’t think that’s a good idea. so does ahsoka even mean anything to them? like they made quite questionable decisions for ahsoka. and like she’s a child! you are her guardian, you have the rights to do something and they just opted to let rusty cogs run and come to a probably wrong decision? sounds about right.
well, there are a lot more mistakes than this.
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HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN // have you met ANAKIN SKYWALKER yet? HE is a TWENTY-TWO year old CIS MALE HUMAN. they’re originally from TATOOINE and now show loyalty to THE SITH / HIMSELF. they are best known for being a JEDI KNIGHT, and i hear they’re pretty STRONG yet also ARROGANT at times; i hope they survive the clone wars.
THE PAST
Anakin had trouble adjusting to life as a Jedi padawan. He knew that others in the hall would stare. He could sometimes hear the whispers. Wondering just why he was allowed to stay in the temple. That he was far too old, too opinionated, too cynical and jaded for a nine-year-old human to ever make it as a Jedi. He knew of his new masters doubts on occasion or he thought he did. On occasion, he’d taste ash in his mouth over that word. Master. Something that would lurk over his shoulder forever he’d bet his soul on it.
He worked so hard throughout the clone wars to help others but again and again he saw the same thing he saw when he’d lived with his mother. Slavery. Cruelty. Pain. Something spread across the galaxy no matter the planet. It grew within him like a toxic shadow bringing doubt towards those who he had grown under. The mentality that the war was more important grated on him sometimes.
As things heated up he grew to feel more and more disconnected from his fellow jedi as Palpatine whispered in his ear and brought his insecurities up like a rising tide ebbing and flowing into something larger. His wife was his only light anymore. They were to have a child together. Something that was supposed to bring joy and yet they’d needed to hide them for all their sakes. Then the dreams started… Dreams of losing Padme. That darkness inside took over when he was offered the only chance to have all things he held dear survive.
He killed them. The Jedi ---young, old, hidden. He hadn’t cared about them not if it meant Padme would live. They quickly fell under his blade and the blaster fire of the troopers he’d once trusted his life with. Then came the Separatist Council on Mustafar. They’d fallen as well. Perhaps even more violently.
THE PRESENT
His hand was gone, he’d married the love of his life, they were to become a family. Those who had the potential to harm him and they were gone now. He’d done the job as a protector. Except… He was alone.
Waking up was hell. Or it could be where he’d woken up that was hell. Anakin had found himself in a fortress of sorts on Mustafar. He didn’t know how long had passed or what had happened to him. Until he broke into the various holopads strewn around the fortress. Darth Vader. His name had brought fear to the galaxy. But he’d lost his wife, hell he’d died! But this was a second chance. For what? He wasn’t sure but his wife was gone so his pain over his actions and her loss combined with every other fueled him in the force but especially the dark side.
Anakin is struggling in a fortress of his own supposed making. Struggling with learning that there are other Skywalkers out in the galaxy, with his actions losing his wife to an unknown Jedi. Palpatine’s betrayal and inability to fulfill the oath they had reached. Now though he seeks to learn about the current state of the galaxy. Yellowed eyes watching from the shadows.
PERSONALITY
Positive traits: Insightful, Loyal, Intelligent, Willful
Negative traits: Stubborn, Temperamental, Messy, Reckless
MBTI type: ENTJ
Moral Alignment: Chaotic Evil (Good)
Temperament: Choleric
Anakin cares for people, he does but he can be a bit selective on who exactly he cares about. He needs to warm up to those people and get to know them just a bit before he can like them and then grow to love them.
When he loves… He loves SO hard it can be scary at times. And its that quality that allowed Palpatine to manipulate his love for Padme into something so twisted that it allowed him to become Vader.
He’s always so scared of so many things that he doesn’t know if he’s coming or going at times. Yet his name by the Republic was: The Hero with No Fear. What a lie. Though his one true fear would always be losing those he loves except… He thinks he already lost them so what can he fear now?
He broods over mistakes he makes and he is aware of it. He often has to be pulled out of those moods by someone else and they usually involve him getting absorbed into some technological project where he upgrades C3PO, R2D2, or his ship.
When his mood is particularly dark... He fiddles with the prosthetic that is now his arm. The first week he’d had it he’d been so self-conscious until Padme made him see reason. But he still has moments after particularly bad days where he becomes all too aware he isn’t fully human any longer. That he needs to be able to take apart and put back together one of his own limbs.
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Trying to Appease Every Single Fan  Backfired Spectacularly: An Analysis of The Rise of Skywalker
Up until The Rise of Skywalker, every Star Wars movie made has added new levels of depth, complexity and fun to the Star Wars canon and enhanced the viewing of previous movies.  The Rise of Skywalker did the opposite, by disrespecting or invalidating key themes and plot elements from previous movies.  (Spoilers below the cut)
Bringing Palpatine Back:
Not only is this a complete invalidation of Vader’s sacrifice in RotJ, but it completely undoes the interesting set-up at the end of TLJ:
What does Kylo Ren (a Darth Vader analog) do after killing his master and not turning to the light?
Can he hold onto power or does someone like Hux usurp him?
Both the Resistance and the First Order have been weakened considerably by the end of TLJ.  How does this play out in the complicated field of intergalactic politics?
These questions will never be answered because Abrams apparently didn’t know what to do without a Big Bad.
Since a redemption arc for Kylo Ren was obviously in the plans, it makes absolutely no sense to have him kill his evil master in TLJ and then go back and have to face his *real* evil master in TRoS.  
If you want to make a satisfying redemption arc in just three movies, you can’t afford to re-tread the same ground twice.  The next step after killing Snoke should have been Kylo Ren ruling as Supreme Leader, without Snoke’s voice in his head, and still feeling empty.  Think Zuko in Season 3 of AtLA, when he goes back to the Fire Nation a hero.  He had everything he thought he wanted, but he realized his victory was hollow and he was on the wrong side all along.  Now that’s a satisfying redemption arc. 
Rey Palpatine
Not only did Rian Johnson have Kylo Ren explicitly state Rey has no place in this story, but she had a freaking force vision telling her basically the same thing. The force vision in TLJ (and arguably a key theme of the movie as well) is rendered meaningless by the Rey Palpatine reveal in TRoS.
Also, we’ve done the whole ‘protagonist finds out they’re descended from the villain’ before, with the whole Luke - Vader reveal.  
You mean to tell me the grandson of Darth Vader died to save the granddaughter of Palpatine?  Seriously?
Kylo Ren dies
The following people died in an attempt to return Ben Solo to the light.
Han Solo
Luke Skywalker
Leia Organa
They succeeded, but only for ten minutes, because the Last Skywalker rose (or climbed out of a hole or whatever - seriously THAT was the title of the movie) and then died two minutes later.
Not to mention they’re telling the same story twice.  Again!  And just like with the Rey Palpatine nonsense, they told it better the first time. Darth Vader - manipulated from childhood by a creepy evil dude.  Dies.  His grandson - manipulated from childhood by a creepy evil dude.  Dies.  Recycling old plots is not good storytelling.
Furthermore, the story of Darth Vader becomes much more tragic if his death to save the next generation didn’t really save them, since his grandson became obsessed with his legacy, repeated his mistakes and ended the same way Vader did -with death ten minutes after he turned back to the light.  Only KR didn’t even have another generation to save. 
Lando Calrissian rallies the troops
Remember how emotional it was when no one was around to help Leia in TLJ?  It turns out all she needed last time was Lando Calrissian and a space boom box or whatever he did to get that many people to show up in no time at all.  I mean, I know it was because he went to the Core Worlds, but thematically, you’ve got Lando Calrissian succeeding where Princess Leia failed and it doesn’t sit right with me.
Force Healing
Remember Anakin Skywalker, who turned to the Dark Side to save Padme and stayed on the Dark Side for like thirty years afterwards?  Well he’s in Force heaven watching the scene where Rey heals Kylo Ren with absolute disgust.  “Seriously?  It was that easy?  That would have been nice to know before I threw Mace Windu off a building.”
A particularly egregious way in which TRoS disrespected previous movies was the method in which this movie raised the stakes. 
Remember how absolutely terrified the Rebels were of the Death Star in Rogue One.  Remember that achingly beautiful bittersweet ending?  Well now forty-ish years later, they’re still fighting that same fight, to the point that it’s become a joke.  The bad guys make a planet killer.  The good guys blow it up.  How have we had five out of eleven movies with this same plot?  Every time you tell the same story AGAIN, it cheapens the other times the story has been told. It’s like inflation.
Seriously?  The final battle of the nine-movie saga involves fighting like five hundred Star Destroyers that came out of nowhere with giant Death Star canons strapped on the bottom?
I mean yes, the idea is horrifying, but imagine the directors of Nightmare on Elm Street saying, “Freddie Krueger was terrifying and people loved the movie.  For the sequel, let's have a hundred Freddie Kruegers running around.”  It works with snakes and spiders, but not super creepy people or powerful weapons. 
This is especially true because the Sith Fleet was basically pulled out of thin air, which makes the whole thing feel like Diabolus ex Machina.
It’s made doubly ridiculous because they’re not only absurdly powerful, they’re also easy to destroy.  I mean, seriously, Tie Fighters are harder to blow up than those things.  A single strafing run from a Y-wing and the whole dang Star Destroyer is toast.  This means you don’t really need any battle tactics beyond ‘shoot the giant gun,’ which makes for a really boring action sequence.  Star Wars is famous for its dogfights in space.  I mean, yeah, the tactics are not actually plausible because zero gravity changes warfare in ways they don’t address, but it’s fine because of the Rule of Cool.  
As for the characters and relationships, it’s kind of a trainwreck and nobody is really happy.
Tons of fans are unhappy because Kylo Ren and Rey kissed
Many were opposed to the idea of a villain turning good because he was in love with the hero and that’s exactly what happened in this movie
Others were unhappy because they saw KR as an unredeemable monster and yet he had a (small, not very well executed) redemption arc.  
He never suffered for his past actions or even really talked about them, yet he and the protagonist are in love, so it’s fine.
The fans who wanted a Kylo Ren/Rey relationship were unhappy because of how the relationship played out
The redemption arc wasn’t all that great.  
The whole Rey Palpatine thing means that KR lied to Rey when he asked her to join him in TLJ.  That line was cringey enough when it was true, and now that it's a lie, it’s twice as bad.
They’re a diad in the Force and now one of them is dead?  How is that a happy ending?
A major theme of the sequels was Rey finding belonging and someone who understand her.  KR was sold as a dual protagonist, someone who understands her.  They were on the same side for ten minutes and then he died and Rey doesn’t cry, instead she goes sand sledding and takes the Skywalker name.  Seriously, how is this a ‘satisfying’ ending?
And a few minor things
Why does Rose only get like four lines?  
General Hux had like two minutes of screen time.  For a fan-favorite villain, his ending was disappointing.  He really owned his two minutes, though.  But think, without the Palpatine nonsense, there could have been more time to examine the discord in the ranks of the First Order higher-ups, with some focus on the lack of respect the original Imperials have for the new generation of First Order commanders.  When you raise the stakes with a larger-than-life villain (especially one who was supposed to have died), you run the risk of losing the far more interesting stories revolving around villains who are far more human, both in their powers and in their emotions and desires. 
Did anyone have character growth in this movie?  Because to me it seemed like they were so busy with shots of CGI copy-pasted Star Destroyers in a row, that they didn’t leave time for personal growth or emotional payoff.
Early reviews said The Rise of Skywalker checked all the boxes for a Star Wars movie, but forgot about the heart.  Now that I finally dragged myself to the theater to see for myself, I can’t help but agree. 
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The Last Shot
A Smuggler Ben Solo/Dark Side Rey arranged marriage fic for @the-reylo-void. Many thanks to @rapturousaurora for betaing, @cosetteskywalker for the above moodboards, and @aionimica for her drawing of Rey in her wedding dress!
Read it on AO3 here, and listen to the playlist here!
Author’s note: I am planning to wrap this piece up before The Rise of Skywalker, over two and a half years after I started writing it!
Chapter Twenty Nine: The Plan | Chapter Twenty Eight: You’re Not Alone | Chapter Twenty Seven: Balance | Chapter Twenty Six: Light to Meet | Chapter Twenty Five: Darkness Rising | Chapter Twenty Four: The Betrayal | Chapter Twenty Three: Stay | Chapter Twenty Two: The Storm | Chapter Twenty One: The Fulcrum | Chapter Twenty: In Darkness | Chapter Nineteen: Rey’s Dream | Chapter Eighteen: Jakku | Chapter Seventeen: The First Flashback | Chapter Sixteen: The Rendezvous | Chapter Fifteen: Tatooine | Chapter Fourteen: The First Mission | Chapter Thirteen: Goodbye to Naboo | Chapter Twelve: The Wedding Night | Chapter Eleven: The Aftermath | Chapter Ten: The Wedding | Chapter Nine: Naboo | Chapter Eight: The Time in Between | Chapter Seven: The Negotiations | Chapter Six: The Duel | Chapter Five: The Discovery | Chapter Four: The Bargain | Chapter Three: The Bounty | Chapter Two: The Meeting | Chapter One: The Treaty
It was a bright, sunny morning outside on D’Qar, though it was impossible to tell from the military base’s grey, industrial interior. Rey appreciated knowing there was greenery outside nonetheless.
Leia--General Organa--allowed Rey and Ben some privacy after asking for a meeting and informing them she had assigned them private quarters close to her own, though far enough away that they still had some privacy. 
Though she had no desire to join the Resistance, having had enough of generals, orders, and the military structure, Rey still found herself taken by the elder stateswoman’s grace and dignity. Perhaps in another life, they could have been friends and colleagues, even a proper mother- and daughter-in-law.
Ben had created yet another uneasy truce between them. She felt his honesty, his earnest wish to not repeat the mistakes of the past. She believed him, though she was still uncertain that their relationship could work. They both knew they desired each other, though neither had acted upon it since their kiss on Jakku. She could and would work with him and his mother to defeat Snoke. She would have her vengeance. After that, she wanted time to figure out who and what she was, and what she wanted to do. She was still young and had the rest of her life ahead of her. 
Growing up on Jakku, all she cared about was finding her parents. She had found them, and hoped she would make them proud. They believed in a cause which she could not, certainly not the twisted, evil organization their cause had become. Not everyone who served the Empire of old was evil. Some wanted to build a better opportunity and life for themselves. And certainly, not everyone who served the First Order was evil, though those who did so did not necessarily choose their life for themselves. She could condone it no longer. The Empire’s Stormtrooper program was not built on brainwashed child soldiers. 
Darth Vader’s parents weren’t murdered by his master. 
All this and more ran through Rey’s mind as she and Ben retired to their new quarters before their meeting with the Resistance leadership. 
They entered their apartment to find a small, but clean living space, with a bedroom and a refresher. There was, of course, only one bed.
“Do you mind if I take the ‘fresher first?” Ben asked. “I still feel slimy from the bacta.” 
“Go ahead,” Rey replied, gesturing across the space. After the door closed, she sighed and stretched out on the couch. She did not regret climbing into her husband’s hospital cot the night before. It was far too small for both of them, and Ben was a large man, but it was still better than sleeping on the chair, or having to cross the entire base to bunk on an unfamiliar ship. She missed her Knights and their own vessel. She took the opportunity to send Falisa and Keeva an encrypted comm message. 
We’ll be ready, Falisa replied. The rest are coming to rendezvous on Takodana. The Kanata castle there will provide cover. We will meet you at the Supremacy.
Rey wasn’t sure to what Falisa referred, but she was certain Ben would know. Though she had scorned his smuggling ways at the beginning, now she envied his freedom, his ability to travel and do as he pleased. Perhaps his decision to reject the Jedi path was not the coward’s choice, as so many assumed, but instead Ben making the right decision for himself. 
So much of their lives came down to choices, and lack thereof. Rey knew the Skywalker family was still atoning for Anakin Skywalker--Darth Vader’s--crimes. Ben did not choose his family’s legacy. 
These thoughts occupied her while she freshened up for their meeting. She was ready to make her choice and take her destiny into her own hands. 
Without saying a word, Ben extended his hand to her after she emerged. She took it, and the two walked silently to the Resistance’s command center. 
Both Rey and Ben were surprised to find Luke Skywalker in attendance. The entirety of the Resistance leadership was there as well, from Leia, Admiral Ackbar, and Admiral Holdo to Poe Dameron with Black Squadron and Finn and the Tico sisters. Rey noted that General Hux would never consider the opinions of so many, and the way the Resistance truly felt like a family. 
Generations had served under Leia Organa now. Some of the beings in the room had never known peace on their homeworlds. 
Rey wanted peace for herself, and she would stop at nothing to get it.
The room quieted when Ben and Rey arrived, clearly the last to enter. 
“I understand you want to go after Snoke,” Leia began. 
“We’re ready,” Rey said, standing straight, tall and proud. “My Knights will fight the Praetorian Guard while Ben and I handle Snoke.” Ben nodded in agreement as murmurs broke out across the room. 
“Are you ready for such a challenge?” Luke asked. “Snoke has been influencing both of your minds for years, across an entire galaxy. How will he affect you in person?”
Neither Ben nor Rey wavered at his words. The Force flowed through them, strengthening and buoying them, together, united as one.
Ben spoke next. “I think that’s the crux of this. Snoke will underestimate us, particularly Rey and the Knights. He thinks they are reliant upon him, that they would be nothing without him. But he’s wrong, and his overconfidence in their loyalty and underestimation of their strength will be his weakness.” 
“That’s just it, Master Skywalker,” Rey added, this time using his title with the respect it merited, rather than the scorn she had displayed the first time she met this family, these officers. “We’re used to having him in our heads. We can guard against him and take the brunt of it, buying the Knights time. We’ll pretend I’ve reclaimed Ben from the Hutts on Tatooine; surely there’s been some news of a disturbance there by now. I will present him before my supposed master for the first time, as a prisoner or a tribute. The Knights will be there to support us, to distract the guards while we handle Snoke.”
“And that’s the perfect time for the fleet to launch an attack,” added Poe. “With Snoke incapacitated, the First Order will lack direction and a leader. We can take down as many of their ships as possible, then be there to escort you back home,” he said, nodding at Ben and Rey. 
Leia sighed. “It’s risky. We cannot match the Supremacy’s firepower, nor is our fleet nearly the same size.”
“We’ll have the element of surprise, and once we’re on the inside, we’ll take down as much as we can,” Ben responded. 
“The ships will be a good distraction for Ben and Rey as well,” Finn added. “That will prevent them from sending reinforcements to Snoke, if word leaks that they’re fighting him. They’ll prepare and mobilize to combat the external threat, without considering the internal.” 
Rey nodded in agreement, catching the former ‘trooper’s eye. She could tell he was still wary of her, but that they could build a mutually respectful relationship. She knew Phasma considered him as officer material when he had served under her. 
Rey wouldn’t miss the First Order, but she would miss some of the decent people with whom she had served, people like her who were just trying to survive the best way they knew how. 
The others were discussing further details of the plan, who would go where with what and how, but Rey was uninterested. She knew where the Force was guiding her. It burned within her with the certainty of a solar star. 
“May the Force be with you,” Admiral Ackbar said. 
Rey and Ben left the room first; the others soon began to disperse, back to their stations, quarters, or the mess. Leia turned to her brother. 
“Their defiance will shake the stars,” Leia said. 
Luke smiled. “They remind me of you and Han. You’d have burned down the galaxy if you thought it was right.”
Leia rolled her eyes and shook her head. “What about you and Mara?”
“She’d be proud of him. And she would be able to help Rey better than we can.”
Leia nodded, and hoped that the Force would guide her son and her daughter in law.
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lysteriaposts · 5 years
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now with the re-hype of star wars and all with the teaser for IX coming out, i think it’s important to let people theorise and have fun no matter what your own ideas or wishes are. with that said though, i’ve seen some pretty stupid reasonings for having rey be completely unrelated to anyone that i’d like to just give my take on, and also to share why i see so much more set-up and pay off in having her be related to a specific someone, if you look at it as a saga.
i think the first thing we should get clear about is what is the intention and role of this film that is coming out in december? well, after watching celebration and literally every interview with the producer and director they’ve always highlighted how they know this is the last installment of a nine movie saga (or three trilogies). i could paraphrase and link vids, but i’m sure you can just look up any interview for “rise of skywalker” and find that kathleen and jj abrams bring this up literally every time. this shows that they’re aware it needs to be a good send off and a fitting end of not only one movie, but more importantly a whole story stretching over 40 years. keep that in mind.
now i’ll answer to the critiques of rey as a relative of someone we know. 
something that is always mentioned is that TLJ “confirmed” something about her origin... but it didn’t, it merely waved the question aside (not that surprising seeing as though rian johnson had his interest on mainly the kylo/rey dynamic). even the director himself said it wasn’t anything final, and that he made that choice to challenge the character of rey. furthermore, it was in the context of a very manipulative scene with kylo ren, someone who’s not seen as very trustworhty nor loyal and even has a motive to get rey on his side at that moment. that he’s the one to disclose the information that “rey’s a nobody” makes it even harder to believe and lying to the MC about family is an occurring theme in star wars (obi-wan to luke). another thing is just that wording... that is a way of speech used to tell that someone’s below, not worthy or irrelevant. her parents were losers who didn’t want to care for their child--- nobody or nobodies. something to realise is that the “info” (if it’s even true) that is given about her parents is minimal and might not exclude that her heritage is connected to someone we know. all in all, the first argument i’d like to rebuke is that they’d have to retcon rey’s identity -- there is nothing to retcon since nothing was c o n f i r m e d.
will making rey connected to someone by blood ruin her character, her strength? definitely not! and not for the reasons you think. people claim that fans want her related to someone cause she’s not enough by herself. as a matter of fact fans want her related to someone because that actually creates a red thread in the nine-piece story that is the skywalker saga, and makes her a more relevant and a better character because she has importance and a place in it. on the other hand if rey is a complete stranger with force powers who just happens to stumble into this family soap opera and solve their issues, that makes her bland and really just a deus ex-machina, a plot device and not a character. it isn’t about “inheriting powers and strength” which people assume, but it is about relevance and continuity. p o e t r y.
riding on my previous point this also proves that what people think is an important character to have - someone who came from nothing and got good on their own merit and not by last name - is not needed to be filled by rey. to be honest, i’m shocked people need this at all. people should know they’re watching the skywalker saga, ONE story within the huge universe of star wars. that doesn’t mean there aren’t other stories that involve other characters completely urrelated to each other, hell even this saga has obi-wan kenobi and mace windu who worked their way up to where they are. we have freaking finn and poe in the new trilogy!!! why this hysteria over rey being a complete stranger when we have so many good examples already, and when it gives nothing to the story if she is? there is only one film left of this unique saga, but many other star wars stories can be created later to fill this need of “no blood ties”. (even if i still don’t see this need when it’s woven into everything already!)
my last point will obviously refer to george lucas and his love for reoccurring beats and poetry that rhymes. if i may say so it’s the essence of the skywalker saga. i’m not going to say star wars, but this saga. the greatest set-up and pay off for this 40 year old story is to make rey a kenobi, because it captures everything perfectly -- reconciliation, redemption, surprise, love, dark, light so on. we start off this saga with obi-wan and his master, seeing him become a better jedi with his own hard work. he then witnesses the demise of his mentor, a story beat that’s been repeated with luke and rey. obi-wan goes on to join the jedi order and become very set in his ways, and a master to anakin, thus beginning the long skywalker-kenobi history. when anakin turns to the dark side kenobi sees it that he’s failed him and also himself - making him go into exile. that most probably would shake anyone’s previously held values. he feels guilty and reconnects with another skywalker - luke. he starts mentoring luke to prepare to fight the evil that obi-wan probably sees himself partially responsible for creating. luke saves vader/anakin and gets his reconciliation that way, but obi-wan doesn’t truly reconcile with anakin. many decades later we have the new protagonist called rey who seeks to find her identity, belonging and... reconciliation. at the same time as characters progress, there are still story beats being (reverse) repeated, this time the focus of the story switched from a skywalker to a kenobi. finding out her identity will give her the idea of what she has to do to reconcile with herself and lead her to the belonging she seeks, it’s all connected. now if rey discovers she is a kenobi it’ll lead her to ben solo-skywalker, and if she manages to turn him around to the light it will give way for poetic justice in the skywalker (/kenobi) saga. in her discovery that her forefather led a very lonely life and that the strict jedi codes could have lead to the fall of skywalker in the first place and failure for obi-wan would be enlightening to her character seeing as though she has the tendency to be overly independent and by herself. this could make her more open and realise that it’s important to have people around you and be open to love, attachments and that family / legacy don’t have to be the same. 
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permian-tropos · 5 years
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Very enn ess eff doubleyou opinions on Brendol Hux (not really)
I still think he would have been killer as a villain who idealizes the Jedi and actively wants to restore them to power, in doing so demonstrates what was wrong with that particular institution. Could also have been a fantastic way to explain Luke’s disillusionment, if he realized the similarities between the late Jedi Order and the First Order. Could also have been a fantastic way to explain Ben’s turn to evil, if instead of his reasons being ?????? they’d be that he could at least claim that the First Order was the true successor of the Jedi and that Anakin Skywalker wanted him to pick up the mantle of his redemption arc, by sacrificing his loved ones to rebuild the Order that Vader destroyed in refusing to let go. Aka the version of the Jedi Order that abducted kids and raised slave armies to maintain centralized authority over the galaxy. 
Like here’s the take: Brendol Hux sets up Arkanis Academy, not just to practice scouting out kids’ force potential even after Jedi techniques for that became forbidden knowledge, but to scout out kids with potential who could be internal threats in his new Order. His famous lesson he wants everyone to witness is about a young animal being killed by a predator because it wasn’t rigorously trained to avoid danger. This seems to ideologically clash with “it’s good to let kids go all Lord of the Flies on each other because survival of the fittest” or “people need to be tested against a gauntlet of danger” which is what you get from Rax. 
Suppose the kernel of truth was actually in the “protect children with absolute control” moral, and though it seems incompatible with the setup of the Commandant’s Cadets, those cadets were actually being flushed out as youngling-killers. Their victims could be seen as necessary sacrifices (who got bad grades anyway so pshhh) to gather this small group of lil murderers that Brendol then has an extremely close eye on and the technology to brainwash into absolute obedience to him (Project Unity).
Basically -- he could be trying to “well if I were the Jedi Council I would have prevented the events of RotS by” [insert extremely immoral and smug overthought nerdlord plan]. And that plan is to incorporate the Jedi’s apparent weaknesses, the Sith and the clone troopers, into the Jedi system. The Jedi and clone troopers become merged into one, with the new stormtrooper program, and Brendol runs controlled opposition by figuring out which cadets would go full Sith if given the chance and containing them. 
His academy is working in tandem with the Inquisitorius who are also trying to identify potential Force users for their purposes, but Brendol has his own ambitions that ultimately go against the established power of the Empire, which is why Tarkin, a close confidante of the Emperor who is allowed to boss the Inquisitors about (pretty much allowed to try to boss Vader about, really), suspects Brendol is up to no good. But Brendol gets away from close scrutiny long enough [insert Armitage’s mom is a rogue Inquisitor who protects him headcanon] for the Empire to fall and for him to scoot off to another corner of the galaxy to try all this wacko shit out for real. 
The truth that Brendol is actually pro-Jedi, twistedly loyal to the kickass space wizard warriors he admired when he served under them in the Clone Wars, would definitely warrant him being described as a crazy person by Snoke. 
The way he crashlands on Parnassos to recruit could be seen as remarkably Jedi-esque, since we see Qui-Gon showing up a poor planet to encourage a nine year old slave into a life-threatening race to raise money to buy ship parts, promising the boy a future with the Jedi while leaving the boy’s loving mother in slavery, instead of, like, doing anything besides that. 
The final piece of proof? Not only is the only specific interaction between Brendol and Armitage that we know about a conversation where Brendol talks about the Jedi (his favorite topic), but elsewhere Brendol quotes the “coarse and rough and irritating” line about sand. He’s a prequel memer, and this makes it possible that he unironically stans the prequel-era Jedi. 
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🌓 Vaderwan/Vaderkin Obikin Fic Recs
Updated 5/10/2021
Here you’ll find the Obikin Fic Rec Masterlist, and here are some tags and warnings in case you don’t want to read about certain topics:
🔥= Mustafar AU ⌛= Time travel/de-aged/rebirth 🔗= Slavery 🍫= Explicit sexual content 🍂= Master-student relationship or mentions/underage
🔥♥♥♥♥♥Dearly despised by Anonymous Status: on going Where a Jedi was spotted, Darth Vader was sure to follow, leaving behind a trail of corpses; Jedi or otherwise. To finish what he started when he knelt down and swore allegiance to a new Emperor. To finally bring peace to a galaxy that had been ripped apart from war.Obi-Wan knew better. This was a more personal matter: Vader wanted revenge. Vader wanted him.
🍫🔥♥♥♥♥ where every mask cracks by little_tales Status: on going
Four years after the birth of the Galactic Empire, Obi-Wan approaches Darth Vader with an offer he doesn't expect.
⌛♥♥♥♥With the will of the force, In the palm of my hand. by Spice_Runner Status: hiatus
After Obi-wan's supposed death on the death star,Darth Vader is sent back in time to his home planet by the will of the force, in the body of his nineteen year old self. He's been given a second chance,but to do what with? He doesn't know. All he knows if that the Jedi are alive once again,and so is Obi-wan. He plans to destroy the Jedi again without the rise of Darth Sidious,and With Obi-wan at his side as his apprentice. To right the wrongs of the Jedi,rebuild his Empire as he sees fit and take back all those he loves. The Force has different plans.
🍫♥♥♥♥come back from the dark by amidnightlove Status: on going
Almost a year after Mustafar, Obi-Wan is slowly becoming accustomed to living in exile, being an unmated Omega and watching over Luke. And then an imperial pod crashes into Tatooine.
🍫♥♥♥snowbound by amidnightlove Status: complete
Sent to Ilum to investigate the sighting of a new Sith apprentice, Obi-Wan expects to simply find them and detain them. Sharing shelter with a Sith during a snowstorm was the last of his wishes.
♥♥♥♥♥Neutron star collision by liv_k Status: on going
A neutron star merger is a type of stellar collision. When two neutron stars orbit each other closely, they spiral inward as time passes due to gravitational radiation. When the two neutron stars meet, their merger leads to the formation of either a more massive neutron star, or a black hole. In the aftermath of Order 66, Anakin Skywalker's miraculous survival after his confrontation with the new Sith Apprentice Darth Vader ignites a sparkle of hope in the remaining Jedi, in the fledgling rebellion and, above all, in his former Master, who had thought he had lost everything to darkness. But darkness is generous, and it is patient. [Title changed from "This time we'll fall together"]
⌛♥♥♥there is peace (peace is a lie) by luminousbeingsweare Status: on going
Ben Kenobi, Wizard of the Wastes, was really tired of this. For some ridiculous reason, he really thought he'd be able to rest for once in his (after)life. Of course, it couldn't be that simple. Judging by the intense cursing coming from Darth Vader's - or was it Anakin? - side of the room, it seemed he wasn't the only one in this predicament.Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker are thrown out of the afterlife back to right before AOTC starts. Everything goes to hell.
🔥 ♥♥Bound to Me by ilcuoreardendo Status: complete Summary: One of the memories Anakin carries away from Geonosis is that of his master in chains.
⌛♥♥♥♥♥ Vader in time by  SWModdy Status: on going
Summary: He’s given a new chance. Or rather Vader takes the new chance as he feels the death of Obi-Wan somewhere out in the wide galaxy, the Jedi passing utterly alone without Vader there and in a moment of madness everything becomes clear… so he takes a new chance for himself. By going back. And this time Palpatine shall not take it all from him.
🍫♥♥♥♥What Dwells in Us by Caudipteryx dreamwidth
Status: complete
Summary: Three months have passed since Obi-Wan Kenobi arrived on Tatooine. He has settled into a quiet, uneventful life in the desert, watching over the infant Luke from afar. Alas, his life isn’t going to stay quiet or uneventful for much longer.
Or: The story of Obi-Wan’s years in exile I have always wanted to read. (Yes, it is written in first person, and I know a lot of people hate first person. But this serves a very specific aesthetic purpose; if you think the subject matter may interest you, please try giving it a chance anyway.)
🔥♥♥♥ Eyes by  TiBun
Status: hiatus (last update:  2017-11-11)
Summary: Darth Vader had won the inner battle. He had wrapped Anakin in darkness and snuffed out his light. But Obi-Wan wasn't quite sure Anakin was completely gone, and the Sith Lord's eyes could be very telling.
♥♥♥ Ascension by  lilyconrad
Status: complete
Summary: Anakin loathes the soulmark Obi-Wan bears, a black dragon that will one day take his beloved master away from him.
🍫♥♥♥♥♥The Negotiator Series by  Ralph_E_Silvering
Status: complete
Part one  🍫♥♥♥♥ The Negotiator: Darth Vader was always arrogant. He forgot that Obi-Wan had spent 20 years in the desert, with nothing to do but learn new ways to mess with him. Or the story of how Darth Vader touches Obi-Wan Kenobi's lightsaber after the events on Cloud City but forgets about that little Force-trick of psychometry. Obi-Wan has one last surprise for his old Padawan.
Part two 🍫♥♥♥ Hindsight: Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi woke every night, sweating and gasping, from nightmares of Darth Vader. It had been nine years since he had watched his Padawan burn, watched the Republic fall, watched his life be destroyed around him. And every night he saw Anakin’s face, twisted by evil, his eyes sickly yellow, as he screamed his hatred of Obi-Wan. It was that last which he could not bear.
Part three 🍫♥♥ Darth Vader's Master: Yet always he would be pulled awake far too soon, finding himself in his sterile and empty Imperial chambers, hard and aching once more.........
Part four  🍫♥♥After the End: Obi-Wan tilted his chin up until their eyes met, and Anakin felt shame burn through him. But Obi-Wan was still smiling, his eyes deepest blue-green, and as he bent to place a gentle kiss on Anakin’s lips, the younger man finally began to relax. “Hello, Anakin,” Obi-Wan said, joy suffusing his presence.
♥♥♥And Back Again by DreamingMoonlight
Status: complete
Summary: Darth Vader is on Tatooine with a mission and cannot be stopped. Not until the Witch of the Junland Wastes stands in his path and changes the course of his destiny.
Also, look at this lovely art by @crinzinzey​
⌛🍫♥♥♥ Soldier, Poet, King by Glare @glare-gryphon
Status: hiatus (last update: 2017-06-08)
Summary: Second chances are very rarely given, but the Force smiles upon two of its favorite children and returns them to a time before their actions have met their consequences. Anakin Skywalker, also known as Darth Vader, seeks redemption while Obi-Wan “Ben” Kenobi, disillusioned with the Jedi Order and its Code, falls to the Darkness. Trapped out of time, Master and Apprentice must once again work together to stop Sideous’ plans from reaching fruition and bring Balance to the Force—all the while dodging the Jedi, the Sith, and their feelings for each other.
♥♥ Disjointed by Ha_neul @octavigustus
Status: complete
Summary:  Returning to Tatooine to erase his past, Vader reunites with his old lover and their son.
⌛♥♥♥♥ I myself have torn myself to shreds by iiscos @jamesalarcon
Status: complete
Summary: The Force whispers in its ageless voice, its touch peaceful and lulling against Vader’s ancient soul, “Tell me your biggest regrets.”
Or the five times Anakin traveled back in time with the intention of making things better, and the one time that it actually worked.  I would say this story begins as Vader and ends in Anakin, a more wise Anakin who have suffered a lot.
⌛♥♥ Anathema by poplitealqueen (Isimun) @poplitealqueen
Status: hiatus (last update: 2016-11-29)
Summary: An illogical visitor appears on the Death Star, following the apparent death of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
🔥♥ Am I only dreaming? by Kris_Amethyst  (now orphan account)
Status: dropped (last update: 2016-03-10)
Summary: It's been five years since Obi-Wan Kenobi saw Darth Vader. Now, in the deserts of Tatooine, he finds a seemingly amnesiac Anakin Skywalker who doesn't know of his fall. Can he and Padmé save him once and for all?
⌛♥♥♥♥ Tell Me, Show Me by LeelaLaFleur  ArvisTaljik
Status: hiatus  (last update: 2016-07-02)
Summary: While searching the Force for the spirit of his former Master, Vader finds himself thrown deep into the past. Free of the Dark Side and with his youthful body back, Vader/Anakin is ready to change his own destiny for better, but when he comes across shy, yet incredibly stubborn Padawan Kenobi, everything rapidly spirals out of control and the ex-Sith is forced to face some of the old attractions and attachments....
⌛♥♥♥♥♥ Return to the Point of No Return by theascetic
Status: complete
Summary: He turns around, his tunic soaked with blood, and holds the gorgon's head up by its wispy hair.
"Anakin, please-"
"Don't beg me, Master,” says the last of the Sith, tenderly reaching to cup Obi Wan's hot cheek with a gore-stained hand. “Command me.”
The ever-popular time travel fix-it fic... with a bit of a twist.
🔥♥ Go Away Closer by MissPop (before poplitealqueen (Isimun) ) @poplitealqueen
Status: hiatus (last update: 2016-04-04)
Summary:  'Go Away Closer' aka a double bind: where every decision you make feels like the wrong one. However, in Zen Buddhism, it's also viewed as a path to enlightenment. The impossible question with no correct answer.This is a Star Wars AU, a Mustafar AU to be exact, where Obi-Wan doesn't cut Anakin down to size and nothing is okay.
Also a SPOILER WARNING of Go Away Closer, for the next one shot:
🍫♥♥ Comorbidity by MissPop,poplitealqueen (Isimun) @poplitealqueen
Status: complete
Summary: Anakin's premonitory "Probably-Palpatine-Just-Fucking-With-Him-But-Also-Lowkey-His-Old-Pal-The-Force-Trying-To-Give-Him-A-Head's-Up" nightmares return.
🔥♥♥♥♥♥ I have lied my way to the stars by iiscos @jamesalarcon
Status: hiatus (last update: 2016-03-13)
Summary: Anakin wavers in darkness, while Obi-Wan questions the light.Or another post-RotS AU where Obi-Wan is captured on Mustafar.
⌛♥♥♥♥♥ Second Life by Sapphirethief
Status: hiatus (last update: 2017-01-05)
Summary: Vader takes his last breath only to wake in times long past.
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I’m so sorry if this had been asked before but...Were fans back in the day expecting a Han-like character when it came to Anakin during the Prequels? Was it a stretch to think so or pausable? At least before we knew of Anakin we know that Lucas presented.
Back in the day people expected Anakin to either a more classic hero like Luke, an evil child like baby Vader or a mix of both. more than anything they wanted Anakin to be cool™, the type of character built on male expectations. The kind of character guys could fantasize being.
Well, when I said I was going to do the prequels, everybody said, ‘That’s great, we get to see Darth Vader kill everybody.’ And I said, ‘That’s not the story.’ When I announced that the first story was going to be about a nine-year-old boy, everybody here said, ‘That’s insane, you’re going to destroy the whole franchise, it’s More American Graffiti all over again.’ And I said, ‘Yeah, but this is the story.’I don’t have energy to just make hit movies. I’m not going to make James Bond Pt. 21 – I’m just not interested. Everybody said to drop the stuff about the midichlorians, it makes it too confusing. But it’s a metaphor for a symbiotic relationship that allows life to exist. Everybody said it was going to be a giant turkey: ‘This isn’t going to help LucasFilm at all.’ I said, ‘This is about the movie and the company is just going to have to deal with whatever happens.’” — George Lucas on audience expectations, George Lucas and the Cult of Darth Vader, Rolling Stone, 2 June 2005 
“But how did he get to be Darth Vader? You have to explore him in relationships, and you have to see where he started. He was a sweet kid, helpful, just like most people imagine themselves to be. Most people said, “This guy must have been a horrible little brat – a demon child.” But the point is, he wasn’t born that way – he became that way and thought he was doing the right thing. He eventually realizes he’s going down the dark path, but he thinks it’s justifiable. The idea is to see how a democracy becomes a dictatorship, and how a good person goes bad – and still, in the end, thinks he’s doing the right thing.” — George Lucas on Anakin
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