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hessolivagant · 1 year
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I only post real and true information
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imjusthereforgay · 1 year
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eatmehuckass · 10 months
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i NEED more content on wet cigarette not like having dirty nails reading glasses tiring hair up load of problems sweater internal homophobia wearing freak mike.
I NEED this man to HURT. I NEED him to sob. I NEED him to BREAK.
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nicxxx5 · 1 year
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why mike wheeler is autistic
these are some of my thoughts on why i think mike wheeler is autistic. 
he has narrow special interests (dnd, science, writing)
he only has a couple of friends, also with the same interests as him (it is common that autistic people have a difficult time making friends)
he hates change (he didn’t like the addition of max into the group without being made aware of it first, instead of using highschool as an opportunity to be someone else like lucas did he went back to doing things that brought him comfort like dnd, he’s always the first to notice when something is off with will (him missing/being possessed))
he is very logical (dustin and lucas ask why they can’t just let his mom deal with el when they find her in s1 and mike reasons that they’ll get caught for sneaking out so they have to handle it themselves, he rationalizes most of the plans in the party (in s3 when lucas says they win if they get the mindflayer out of billy mike reminds him that they wont because it didn’t work with will, jonathan thinks he’s ridiculous for wanting to go to suzie for help in s4 but mike reasons that she is the smartest person they know)) he also doesn’t budge much on his thoughts when it comes to this
he has a difficult time with his emotions (he mixed up romantic and platonic feelings with el, he also didn’t know how to properly confront her about this when he realized), he becomes overly emotional often (when he realized hopper knew el was alive the whole time and he got angry and broke down)
he is a people pleaser (he cares a lot for his friends, especially will and el, which is why in s4 he kept pretending he was in love with el because it’s what he thought she wanted, and why he hid how will leaving affected him because he didn’t want to make their friendship awkward with his newly realized feelings)
he’s not bound to societies standards (to a degree) (why he continues to play dnd even though he gets made fun of and why the upside down wasn’t a difficult concept for him to grasp because to him it made sense easily) 
he misses sarcasm (s4 at suzie’s house)
he misses double meanings to things (his conversations with lucas in s3 about el, he took most of what he said literally)
he is very blunt (often he is quick to tell things how it is even if someone gets upset with him)
i did this pretty late at night and kinda on a whim so it’s probably not my best. let me know what you think or any ideas you have and i might add them to it!
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begaydoslay · 11 months
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Mike Wheeler is the perfect representation of nerodivergent queer people who don’t know how to deal with their feelings (basing this 100% off of myself)
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octopusoptimusprime · 2 years
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why mike wheeler is autistic
by me, your friendly neighbourhood autistic :)
overexaggerated facial expressions
we might be starting off with what seems like a bit of a reach here, but hear me out
mike doesn’t show emotion visually on his face a lot (also an autistic trait) but when he does it’s usually over-the-top and there’s other people around
the way he looks at el in the ‘i dump your ass’ scene - looks to me like he’s playing up the disgust/confusion/anger face because lucas/max can see him. (i also think the fact that it’s not really clear what emotion he’s trying to show proves my point)
‘what about us?’ in rink o’ mania - when he turns around you can see him look genuinely blank/blindsided by will’s comment (this also has romantic/byler implications) but then he arranges his face in a mask of anger
taking things literally
this is mostly just a bullet point solely for the ‘so i should get her something that literally says ‘i’m sorry’ on it?’ scene from s3. because i think that from what lucas said, a nt person would understand what he meant, and an autistic person is more likely to assume the literal meaning, as mike does here
copying others’ examples of ‘normal’ in terms of life/relationships
ohhh i could talk about this one for ages. so much proof on why milkvan is so incompatible lies here too.
so the way mike views his relationship with el is very performative. it’s very putting on a show of normalcy. the fact that the only thing they do together is make out because that’s mike’s perception of how to show people they’re happy together. and it clearly must be mike’s perception, because what opinions would el have on situations like that? the way they make a big show of leaving the party in 0301 to do this also proves it’s mostly for show.
when lucas comments on this when they go to the cinema together, mike defends himself, calling it ‘romantic’, when both hopper and the party can tell there’s something distinctly abnormal about their relationship. that’s because it has very little substance. mike and el don’t actually know very much about each other, which is why mike had such a hard time picking out a gift for her at the mall. but mike thinks that their relationship is normal, and is healthy, because he’s trying to replicate the relationships around him, but he doesn’t have a very good basis for this as he is most likely going off of stancy and his parents, because he sees very little of jancy together, and lumax (arguably the best canon couple in the show) call him out on his relationship’s unhealthiness.
autistic people tend to have a hard time in relationships, because it’s difficult to tell between genuine attraction/a healthy relationship and performative but toxic relationships. speaking from experience, i understand mike completely here. but he also craves stability, which is why in s4 he fights to keep that stability that he has in el, even though he knows now it isn’t right. we accept the love we think we deserve, and autistic people (in my experience) will put up with a lot of toxic and harmful behaviour/situations in order to keep a stable relationship, because we expect people to leave us if we aren’t directly benefitting them. i struggle with this a lot, which is why mike’s storyline in s4 really resonated with me.
difficulty with emotional regulation
with mike, he either has zero emotion or a lot of it, and this kind of ties into the next point, but difficulty controlling emotions is definitely a mike trait. sometimes he is very monotone/blank and can come across rude. a prime example being the dinner scene after rink o’ mania, where mike says ‘she didn’t look fine’ and el storms out.
of course, the opposite of this is when too much emotion comes out at once, usually manifesting in anger for mike (and me too). the rain fight in s3 i think is actually a great example of this, because to me mike has spent a good amount of time masking around lucas, talking about the girls and pretending to be disinterested in dnd - because of lumax’s relationship, i think mike felt a lot of pressure to act the same way as lucas and change his interests here. i don’t think mike intended to hurt will’s feelings, and i think he genuinely didn’t realise that he was. and then the rain fight happens, and to me it looks like mike is so exhausted from masking, and so confused and scared by will’s reaction and having upset him, that this manifests in anger and frustration which is most likely at himself rather than will. he is just projecting the anger he feels at himself (for hurting will and for having to ‘pretend’/not having the same interests as lucas)
i also think the rink o’ mania fight shows this, because it’s the same principle - mike is frustrated with himself for not being the ‘perfect’ boyfriend/not caring about el as much as he should’ve, and this manifests as anger at will (again). i think will is the only person that mike doesn’t really mask around (the ‘will voice’!!), but unfortunately will is also the person he takes his frustration out on when he gets overwhelmed. seeing as this wasn’t the case in s1/2 (because it came out at other people then - lucas/el in s1, hopper in s2) but now that mike is aware of his feelings for will (yes, i do think he knows about how he feels, but he doesn’t think it’s reciprocated & uses it as another reason to hate himself) he outwardly blames will for his relationship problems even though he inwardly knows it’s his fault (& he feels horrible about that too. because there’s no reason why he doesn’t love el the way she wants him to. the way he wants himself to. he just can’t. and he feels like that’s just another thing about him that’s wrong.)
suppression of emotions/masking feelings
so like i said, this is kind of similar to the last point, but it’s mostly just that we barely get to see any emotion from mike other than anger. there are multiple times throughout the show (but especially in s4) where he’s shown to almost smile and then quickly mask it. he’s hyper-aware of how he ‘should’ react in situations. this is just a pretty autistic trait in general, the overanalysing/trying to predict situations in order to act ‘right’.
echolalia/repetition
so this is a verbal stim, and because mike isn’t shown physically stimming (to my knowledge) i think the way that he often repeats words or phrases is his way of stimming. (& not to be depressing, but since it was the 80s any physical stims had probably been ‘disciplined’ out of him).
saviour complex (cue the pheobe bridgers)
i sort of mentioned this earlier, but it’s basically that autistic people have a hard time with self-worth, and the most common way we allow ourselves some self-appreciation is by serving other people. the ‘i can fix them’ mentality is quite common among autistic people, and this is a huge part of mike’s personality. his driving motivation throughout s1 and s2 is ‘saving’ will, along with protecting el and teaching her about the world. (i do think that the reason mike and el connected so quickly and had a sort of mutual understanding was because i also think el is autistic - & this is also why platonic elmike as a dynamic has so much potential and i like them a lot). this ‘fixing’/‘saving’ mentality is a way for mike to prove his own self-worth, that if he can ‘fix’ everyone else maybe he’ll be worth ‘fixing’ too. (i put ‘fixing’ in quotes because obviously there’s nothing wrong with mike. at all. he just believes there is.)
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(i do also want to add that his talent/academic ability also shows this, as ‘gifted kid syndrome’ is a very popular autistic situation/trait)
(also i think his special interest is dnd which is why it hurt him so much in s3 to have to mask that, and why in s4 he’s so happy about playing again. just watch the hellfire recruitment scene and tell me his little ‘it has 20 sides!’ isn’t the cutest thing you’ve ever seen. <3)
okay, that’s all i have for now! please add onto this with anything else you’ve noticed or anything like that! i love you guys and i love mike wheeler a lot so thanks for reading if you made it this far lol <3
edits:
very black&white sense of justice
another ‘taking things literally’ moment being at the end of s3 when lucas says to mike ‘that’s the olive branch’ and he js goes. huh???
autism dinosaur hands!!
@biigiiiii pointed out that he does have other physical stims like blinking/nodding/playing with his bag straps/pacing <3
his attachment to his toys in s1/2 (playing with el and when karen asks him to give them away he gets Very upset)
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tastytoecheese · 2 years
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The autism stance
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adenctm · 1 year
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Currently watching the show (stranger things) again after I finally pester my mom enough so she agreed to watch it w me and every time Mike is... well Mike, she goes "he's just like u" "istg I think this kid is autistic" yeah, mom, you 100% right
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aidyaiden · 10 months
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not byler related but we're (almsot) all neurodivergent/autistic do i thought i could ask this here
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i'm gonna make an autism pin, so i wondered which symbol i should take. i'm pretty sure i'm gonna take the infinity one, since the puzzle one seems to refer more to the need to fit in, to being a mistery that has to be solved, etc. but i wanted to know what y'all think about this 👍
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ed89 · 2 years
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can you list some mike wheeler is autistic hcs you have?
OK HI ANON SORRY IM 4HRS LATE BUT I COULDNT STOP THINKING ABT GETTIGN TO THIS ASK
AUTISTIC + ADHD MIKE
hes a big fidgeter, he’ll fiddle with bag straps, his fingers, will’s hair, and anything near his hands
he has “weird” facial expressions or expresses himself in a way that doesnt quite make sense to others
adding to facial expressions, he is weird about eye contact yet he can stare deep into will’s eyes without breaking contact
DEFINITELY HAS RAPTOR HANDS bc i do so he also must. Bro just stands there like a dinosaur but its aight hes just chillin
he will infodump to anyone abt his interests he loves just ranting
emotionally closed off
[gives mike my alexithymia] i feel like that too would explain why hes so bad with relationships. he cant always distinguish between emotions
hes definitely super empathic i can tell especially when he immediately regrets his fights with will
flappy hands? flappy hands
repetitive blinking stim bc ive seen him do it LMAO
also !! vocal repetitions
empathic but still not good at recognising sarcasm or facial expressions (not realising angela was being malicious like did he not notice will and el's negative reaction 😭)
D&D SPECIAL INTEREST and star wars hyperfixation
will is also autistic (and the rest of the party ngl). him and mike both have the same odd food tastes .......... tism soulmates. they definitely talk through nonverbal expressions or just through random words and noises that make sense to no one else and they show their love through the most cutesie ways. will definitely makes mike lots of gifts and he ALWAYS gives mike presents that hes made by hand for mike's birthday :) they also never judge each other. NEVER ever. they are on LEVEL with each other
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charlieswebb · 1 year
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ppl that hate mike wheeler are ableist (/j) no but seriously that boy is autistic let him be
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trashmouth-lies · 1 year
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I love projecting ‘lil headcanons onto characters I love to make them more like me because yes.
So, something I do but one of my favourite characters:
Mike Wheeler collects rocks.
not fancy gemstones or crystals. Just random little rocks he thinks are kinda cool.
For years he has told himself he’ll stop, because it’s a bit of a problem. But at this point he’ll do it without thinking. He just sees a pretty interesting patterned/colored/shaped rock and shove it in his bag for later. (He has to do a ‘rock-sweep’ of his backpack and pockets bi-weekly so it’s not just rocks in there)
he doesn’t have a set space for any them either, yet somehow always knows where in the mess of his room his favorites are. He also somehow remembers where and when he found almost all of them. But his all-time favourite is one really pretty and smooth speckled grey stone he found while at the quarry with Will years ago.
When he was really young he used to give some of his coolest ones to Nancy as gifts. She was always confused by that but went along with it anyways. She keeps the first one he ever gave her in her jewelry box. (The one with the little ballerina)
that’s about it. Idrk this was really self-indulgent since I literally just took something I do and threw it at him at tops speeds. (That is if I had any throwing skills at fucking all)
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imjusthereforgay · 1 year
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Every morning, I go through the byler tag like it’s the morning newspaper
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eatmehuckass · 1 year
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Okay so we know mike pulls more guys and will pulls more girls, so does anyone know a fic where will’s jealous that mike keeps on being flirted with and where mikes jealous wills being flirted with? ( not of each other but of the people that are flirting)
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nicxxx5 · 1 year
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autistic mike wheeler headcanons
*IMPORTANT* i'm reposting this post because my original post of this is not showing up under the tags and i don't know why. i mean i have an idea but nothing to prove it so... anyways i'm reposting this with some edits to try and fix it. so if you come across an identical copy of this post from me..yeah..well...that's-that's why...anyways!
this is to go along with my autistic will byers headcanons post. just a reminder that this isn't an analysis and is instead my own personal headcanons for mike being autistic as an autistic individual myself
mike is touch adverse. he really dislikes people touching him unless their people he's lose to and in his case it's the party and occasionally nancy and holly
his special interest is dnd, star wars, and will's art. he loves to infodump with the party because they share his interests even if not to his extent. he loves infodumping to will though when will draws because sometimes will draws things based off mike's rambles and mike gets so excited about adding it to his binder
he hyperfixated on both el and eddie a little bit. when he was little mike also had a special interest in super heroes and el reminded him of super heroes with her powers so he became fixated/entranced by her. eddie was super into dnd and was basically everything that mike wanted to be; he expressed himself the way he wanted and didn't care, love dnd, acted confident. so he became super fixated on him and started to model himself after eddie because eddie to mike was both really cool and embraced mike's biggest special interest.
he's very hyperverbal. he often has so many thoughts and ideas that they're so overwhelming he needs to express them verbally in order to get them out and help his brain relax.
mike has verbal stim. he likes to click and roll his tongue to help him focus. he typically does this when he's alone because people have picked on him and he's been reprimanded by teachers for doing it at school so he's kind of shy about it
mike like's to stim by flapping his hands and jumping spinning in circles (separately). he also likes to verbal stim while doing this when he really feels like he has a lot of pent up energy
he's really bad at interpreting social cues and sarcasm. a lot of it just goes right over his head. when people try to explain it to him he just doesn't get it even when thinking back to the situation.
his difficulty with social cues causes people to sometimes get frustrated with him and he gets frustrated back because he doesn't understand what he did that they didn't like
growing up he also like to hold hands with will and he didn't understand why people gave them looks and why lonnie got really mad. he stopped mainly because of will getting bullied and he wanted to protect will
mike has a very limited number of safe foods and these safe foods change for him from time to time. more often than not though he does prefer crunchy foods to soft foods
when he has meltdowns he mostly wants to be left alone. everything is too much for him so he likes to be in a really dark room with no noise. he ends up verbal stimming and rocking to try and self sooth. he really hates people touching him during a meltdown or when he's over stimulated. will is able to talk to him though and is able to get yes and no answers out of mike sometimes and help him if his stims start to become self-harming
he has alexithymia. he struggles a lot, and i mean a lot, with recognizing his feelings.
even though mike is hyperverbal he does often struggle to verbalize his thoughts a lot of the time. often times he finds writing his thoughts helps to put together his ideas
he really hates the clothes his mom made him wear growing up. the tags were beyond painful and he would tell his mom this but she didn't understand what he was talking about so she didn't really listen. mike ended up bring his clothes to mrs. byers sometimes because she noticed how uncomfortable he was and offered to fix them
i feel like i could definitely keep going with this one but then i'll feel bad if this one is significantly longer than my will byers one. might come back to edit it in the future though. let me know your thoughts!
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Proof that Mike Wheeler is autistic: he plays dnd
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