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i def have complicated feelings about the ways that fate, destiny, and bloodline are presented in the zelda series but if the series ideology is that "you will become that which you were meant to be" I wish the games would do more with the interesting ideas that could come out of that... zelda struggling with her fated powers was a great plotline and im mad that totk showed NOTHING of what sort of relationship she has to her powers/her position as princess/her status as a mythical savior now!!! positive or negative!!! what does she think about all thats happened!!!!!!
#narrates#im thinking also about skyward sword zelda having a few crumbs of interesting ideas regarding her reincarnation status#and of course links implied issues in botw and (potentially) majoras mask. also tetras wasted potential in ww#nintendo there is cool stuff here!!!!!!!!!!!! if you cared more about women it could be so fun!!!
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me: "it's okay if people are wrong about things, people are allowed to be wrong about things, it's not a big deal."
someone: [refers to any Link other than the one in Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask as the Hero of Time and/or refers to any Zelda other than the one in Skyward Sword as Hylia's reincarnation]
me: "I am going to gnaw through their arm like a beaver would a tree"
#it's SO ANNOYING it is literally my BIGGEST pet peeve#there is only ONE Hero of Time & that is the one from Ocarina/Majora!#the others are Heroes of DIFFERENT THINGS#and the ONLY Zelda that is a goddess reborn as a mortal is the one in Skyward Sword!#the others are HER DESCENDANTS#Demise cursed ZELDA'S BLOODLINE - ''the blood of the goddess'' means THE CHILDREN & GRANDCHILDREN ETC ETC THAT CAME FROM HER#and fucksake in Wind Waker - the first mainline game to come after Majora's Mask - that Link is SPECIFICALLY dubbed the Hero of WINDS#if you play a NG+ to get the ancient Hylian translated they even specifically say he's NOT the Hero of Time and HAS NO RELATION to him#these games are not hard to understand! why does no one read the effing text!!!#AGH!!!!!!!!#(also the Spirit of the Hero is the unbreakable will - it's not the same person reincarnated again and again)#(the only one that is the ACTUAL same person is Ganon)#(and even then - by the time BotW takes place he's become so corrupted over the cycles that he's not really a *person* anymore)#(but just an entity of pure malice)#i just. it frustrates me so much. this is such a petty thing to get annoyed abt but it ANNOYS ME SO MUCH#anyway#oh also Twilight Princess is the PROOF that the Hero is not reincarnated over & over again#bc the Hero's Shade? THAT'S THE HERO OF TIME#he was unable to move on after death bc he had no one to pass his skills onto#so he persisted until he could teach them to the Hero of Twilight#who very obviously can't be him reincarnated bc HIS SPIRIT IS STILL THERE#AS THE HERO'S SHADE#AGHHHHHHH drives me crazy#i realize this is me being a petty bitch but that's why it's called a PET PEEVE#i KNOW it's stupid but I'm still annoyed#a n y w a y
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Sky at one point did feel guilty for being the one "responsible" for the curse, the cycle of reincarnation and all of the trauma that came with it.
If only he was faster, then maybe Demise would've never had the chance to speak.
This, of course, eats away at him. Every time he looks at the Chain he just thinks that none of them would've had to suffer if he was good enough.
That is until he and Time had a chat. A small chat by a dwindling campfire late into the night. The Old Man also felt the same type of guilt, feeling explicitly responsible for all of the horrible things that the Sailor had to endure.
"That's not your fault." Sky whispered. "You had no idea going back would create a timeline split like that."
The Old Man grumbled something while fiddling with the Ocarina. "Maybe."
"The only who should feel anything short of "responsible" for another's suffering is me." Sky sighed, letting his head fall into his hands. "I wasn't fast enough, and so Demise cursed us all. All of it is-"
"Nonsense." Time cut him off sharply. "Still would've happened, even if you did cut the bastard down faster."
Sky gave the Old Man an odd look. The way the dim light from the campfire shone on his face made Time seem much younger than he actually was.
"You think Majora was afflicted with this curse?" He raised an eyebrow.
Sky had to rack his brain for a second to remember who Majora actually was. "But that thing was from Termina, it probably only effects Hyrule."
"And? What about Vaati?" Time gestured to the sleeping Four nearby.
"Well I don't-"
"Sky. It would've happened regardless."
He shook his head with another sigh. "Most of you have had to fight a Ganon, or Ganondorf and they've all were afflicted-"
"Oh please, the Ganondorf that I fought turned to evil. Sure, he may of had a voice of evil in his ear, but he chose that path. Nabooru even told me so." Time sighed. "He chose evil because it was easy, that's what she told me."
Sky started to get frustrated. "If he never had that "voice" in his ear or whatever-"
"Sky." Time quietly cut him off. "He. Chose. Evil. Ganondorf made the choice to listen. He ignored the people telling him to do good, and chose that path on his own."
Sky didn't respond. What would he even say? Time seemingly had a counter to everything that Sky brought up about the curse.
"Listen to me." Time started. "With good comes evil. Where there is evil, there is good." He ran his thumb across the holes of the Ocarina.
"With light comes shadow, and we are that light." He continued. "Demise's curse or not, people choose to do evil. To hurt others, to bring chaos and ruin to the world for their own selfish gains."
Time put his hand on Sky's shoulder. "We are the ones who respond to the calls for justice and peace. Curse or not, we'd still be here."
He was right. Time was right yet again. It was like the weight of the entire world was lifted off Sky's heart. He heaved a sigh of relief.
"Since when did you get so good at philosophy?" Sky asked with a quiet laugh.
"Well, let's just say I had a lot of time to myself in Termina, and I started reading." Time laughed. "Get some rest Sky, you need it."
"Thanks, I guess I do."
#linked universe#linkeduniverse#lu time#lu sky#lu headcanons#linked universe headcanons#Sky shouldn't feel guilty over Demise's curse#lu wind#lu four
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Deities/Deity-like Figures of Zelda
I've noticed a common trend in the Zelda community where most deities aside from the ones mentioned in Skyward Sword are rarely brought up or discussed, and I think that's really a shame. Hyrule is implied to be very polytheistic and has a multitude of less frequently mentioned gods and godlike beings. Here's a list of all the gods I'm aware of in alphabetical order, as well as a short description. Some of this will be based on my own headcanons and opinions, but if there's anything you want to add on or that I missed please let me know!
As an additional warning—This contains major spoilers for Majora's Mask, Skyward Sword, Link's Awakening, Phantom Hourglass, and Twilight Princess. Proceed with caution!
Cyclos
A wind god who creates cyclones, featured in The Wind Waker. According to The King of Red Lions, he bears some ill will towards humans, and will mock Link if he is trapped in one of his cyclones. After defeating him, Link receives the Ballad of Gales, which allows him to control cyclones. Cyclos's brother is Zephos, another wind god.
Demise
The ruler of demons, featured primarily in Skyward Sword. He tried to attain the Triforce, but was imprisoned by Hylia under a magical seal. He is permanently destroyed in Skyward Sword's present day, but his servant Ghirahim travels into the past and revives him using Hylia's spirit. He is defeated, and his consciousness is sealed into the Master Sword.
Din
The Golden Goddess of Power, primarily featured in Ocarina of Time. She appears in Oracle of Seasons as an oracle, and in Minish Cap as an NPC. She is mentioned or referenced in The Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword. Dinraal the dragon from Breath of the Wild is likely a reference to her, as well as a crest featured in Memory #1, but she is not directly referred to or featured in Breath of the Wild. Din along with the other Golden Goddesses created the world (or Hyrule, as is stated in Ocarina of Time, however we are assuming that Hyrule is referring to the entire world despite canonical countries outside of Hyrule), and left the Triforce behind.
Earth God
Mentioned in a learnable song in The Wind Waker, the Earth God's Lyric.
Farore
The Golden Goddess of Courage, featured primarily in Ocarina of Time. She appears in Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages as an oracle, and in The Minish Cap as an NPC. She is mentioned or referenced in The Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword, and the dragon Farosh in Breath of the Wild is likely a reference to her. Her symbol is on a Triforce crest in Breath of the Wild Memory #1. She, along with the other Golden Goddesses, created the world and left the Triforce behind.
Fierce Deity
A god featured in Majora's Mask. He is a powerful deity that assumedly was turned into a mask. Link can wear this mask to transform into the Fierce Deity.
Four Giants
Guardian Deities of Termina. Link's journey in Majora's Mask is to find and summon the Four Giants to prevent the moon from falling.
Frog Deities
Guardian deities of the Sheikah, featured in Breath of the Wild. The Sheikah and the Yiga will bring offerings to these deities and they are frequent around Sheikah and Yiga occupied areas.
Goddess of Time
Featured in Majora's Mask. As the moon falls down on Clock Town, Tatl cries out for the Goddess of Time to save them. This prayer may have been answered, as Link relearns the Song of Time to travel three days into the past.
Goddess of Sand
Featured in Ocarina of Time. The Desert Colossus is mentioned by Sheik to be a "goddess of sand."
Hylia
Featured in Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild. Appointed to guard the Triforce, Hylia orchestrated the events of Skyward Sword as an attempt to stop Demise. While trying to save the surface world, she sent hylians to Skyloft while staying and fighting alongside the other races in an attempt to defeat Demise. She was then killed, and reincarnated years later in the form of a mortal girl, Zelda from Skyward Sword. In Breath of the Wild, she is a deity worshipped in most settlements. It is believed that women of the royal bloodline can pray to Hylia to unlock a sealing power. The Sheikah seem to revere her highly.
Light Spirits
Featured in Twilight Princess. The light spirits Ordona, Faron, Eldin, and Lanayru guard Hyrule "at the behest of the gods," and seem to reside at springs in their respective provinces. They prevented the Interlopers, the ancestors of the Twili, from using the Triforce and sealed them into the Twilight Realm. In the final encounter with Ganondorf, Princess Zelda calls (or even prays) for aid, and they provide her with Light Arrows.
Lord Jabu-Jabu/Jabun
A fish deity worshipped by the Zora in Ocarina of Time and Oracle of Ages. He eats the Princess of the Zora, Ruto, and is infected by a parasite that is defeated by Link. Jabun, who is likely related to him (or could possibly be him) is featured in The Wind Waker.
Malanya
A god of horses featured in Breath of the Wild. He functions similarly to a Great Fairy, living inside a large flower and needing to be revived. He is able to bring horses back to life, and will scold Link for letting them die.
Nayru
The Golden Goddess of Wisdom, featured primarily in Ocarina of Time. She is alluded to or mentioned in The Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword, she is an oracle in Oracle of Ages, and an NPC in the Minish Cap. The dragon Naydra is likely a reference to her, and her symbol is on a Triforce crest in Breath of the Wild Memory #1. She, along with the other Golden Goddesses, created the world and left the Triforce behind.
Oshus
Also known as the Ocean King, Oshus is featured in Phantom Hourglass. He is the guardian of a portion of the sea, and creates an realm that Link travels into.
The Seven Heroines/Eighth Heroine
Guardians revered and worshiped by the Gerudo at some point, first mentioned in Breath of the Wild. They all represent a different virtue: skill, spirit, flight, gentleness, motion, endurance, and knowledge. The Eighth Heroine is rumored to be worshipped by the inhabitants of the Gerudo Highlands.
Valoo
Guardian deity of the Rito in The Wind Waker. In order to grow wings, young Rito must climb to the top of Dragon Roost Island to obtain a scale from Valoo.
The Wind Fish
The creator of an illusory realm called Koholint Island featured in Link's Awakening.
Wind Waker Prologue Deities
Gods called upon by the people that flooded Hyrule with a magical sea. They are implied to be connected to the Triforce, however this is never confirmed.
Zephos
Wind god, and the brother of Cyclos in The Wind Waker. Zephos seems to reside around a small shrine near Dragon Roost Island, and the Wind's Requiem song located on his shrine will let Link learn to control the wind direction.
#majora's mask#wind waker#ocarina of time#oracle of ages#oracle of seasons#skyward sword#twilight princess#phantom hourglass#link's awakening#breath of the wild#legend of zelda#loz#longpost
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hi! I don't know if you know the fallen timeliness theory? For linked Universe if you do could you explain it to me a bit? Because I read a fic with it were legend was from a fallen time and was times other descendent? So if you know could you pls explain to me of so ty!
P.s. I really want to know about because I'm suckered for time and legend angst or them just bonding.
Alright! So, LoZ lore does have an "official" timeline as published in the Hyrule Historia, detailing the canon placement of all games prior to BotW in 2017. According to this official guide, there are three cannonical timelines in the LoZ universe (potentially four after the release of AoC). These timelines all result from events within the adventure of the Hero of Time.
The general names are the timelines are the Adult Timeline, the Child Timeline, and the Fallen Timeline/Downfall Timeline.
The Child Timeline
The Child Timeline is the result of Princess Zelda (OoT/Lullaby/Sheik) sending back the hero's soul to his childhood before Ganon ever came into power. This timeline features the fact that the Hero of Time's adventure is not known in his era, but rather left behind when he traveled back to before it happened. He then proceeded to go off and undertake the events of Majora's Mask and later becomes the Hero's Shade after his death. In terms of LU, this is the timeline Twilight comes from.
The Adult Timeline
The Adult Timeline is also the result of Princess Zelda sending the Hero of Time back to his original timeline. However, despite the hero being sent back to alter time, it still happened, and continues to exist even after he left it. This era has had the Hero's Spirit removed from it, unable to reincarnate without the hero first dying, so there are no more Heroes of Courage. There are heroes however, including Wind Waker's Link, known in LU as Wind. Here, because there is no Hero's Spirit, when trouble came, the goddesses flooded the world to get rid of it, creating the Great Ocean. Wind is the successor to the Hero of Time here, claiming the triforce of courage rather than being chosen by it and establishing a new era of heroes.
The Fallen/Downfall Timeline
This timeline is the one you asked about. While more debated and with many more variations, the general idea here is that the Hero of Time was killed by Ganon, and only be being sealed by Princess Zelda (OoT/Lullaby/Sheik), the Sages and the Knights of Hyrule. The seal on Ganon lasts a few hundred years before it is broken by Aganim, and a young boy named Link (LU Legend) is the one called to defeat him as a result.
The Downfall Timeline tends to have many variations on the course of events leading up to the death of the hero. Hyrule's Downfall by RwanLink is a fan animation that shows an alternate trail of events than the "official" timeline. Many fanfiction authors also have their own theories, varying from the hero still being a child to the hero having grown up and spent seven years training rather than being asleep, and his seven year nap actually being a preventative measure by Fi to prevent the timeline from occurring.
Usually, when reading fanfic, it's fair game what the events surrounding the Death of the Hero of Time are, so be aware of that!
The Legend and Time angst usually stems from Time's guilt at learning that not only did he leave behind alternate timelines, he also left one in utter ruin because he Failed.
Again, deviations regarding his fate do make it difficult to pin down how old he might have been at his death, but some author's (myself included) have written Time as being old enough to have messed around and left some progeny. Legend is NOT canonically Time's descendant. He IS, however, descended from a line of knights commonly associated with Time (the Knights of Hyrule*), as well as a knight who looked crazily similar to a young Time (Raven from the Oracle of Ages manga). This has led to theories of relations between Time and Legend. I've seen some theories where Raven and Time are biological brothers, Raven is Time's descendant, and even one featuring Raven as Time's father! All of these leave a lot of room for Legend and Time bonding/angst dynamics, so I love them all!
*this is actually the same Knights family which Ashei from TP is descended from, making them distant cousins!
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Tingle, the 35 years old map merchant who claims to be the reincarnation of a fairy in The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Nintendo EAD, 2000).
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The Legend of Zelda and shipping
I can't understand people who are like "I only ship Link in every game with one single character ever." What the hell... HOW?!
This seems to be most most common with people who ship Zelda/Link or "Zelink" — always wanting every Zelda to be with Link, because they're the main characters, though the phenomenon does exist with Malink and some other ships as well. And that’s not to hate on Zelink and Malink, because I love them! SPECIFIC INCARNATIONS of them, I mean.
Because there are a bare minimum of EIGHT different incarnations of Link, and you can’t tell me you think every single dude named Link has chemistry with/should have romance with every single girl named Zelda. Like EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.? I just can't with that. It's unfathomable, IMO.
I mean, OKAY, let me back that up: I get that people find it romantic to think that these are like... some kind of soulmates who always find each other through every reincarnation ala Hawkman and Hawkgirl or something, but it's not like they even display the same personality traits or share memories or something in each version of themselves. They just... act like totally different people quite regularly. Because by all accounts, they are.
Furthermore... shit - if we assume the incarnations are all descendants of one another and the same descendancy lines keep hooking up with the same partner lines, at what point do we wind up becoming dangerously incestuous with this repeated pairing? Because that shit seems INEVITABLE in such a case…?
NAH, my fam — I believe each Link and each Zelda are their own person, with their own traits. Their only unifying truth is that every person Link will ALWAYS look best in a green tunic and matching green, pointy flop-hat. (Sorry; I don't make the rules. Facts is facts.)
With that in mind, these are my sundry ships for various Links. And I apologize in advance for the fact that they're all boringly het. :P
Skyward Sword — Zelink, absolutely. Childhood Friend Romance always gets me right in the heart. I love these two together. The casual playfulness and fondness they display. The lengths they'll go to in order to see each other/protect each other. And although Zelda loses some of her distinct personality when she learns she's a reincarnation of Hylia, she gets her groove back near the end, so it's all good.
Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask/SC2 — Malink with a bullet. The singing farmgirl and the boy without a fairy, two people who felt alone in the world and find each other. The nicknames! "Don't be long, fairy boy." The fact that you can declare your romantic intentions for Malon while you're still a fucking KID! The Gossip Stone that tells you how much Malon pines to be saved from her daily life by a hero on a horse! It's SO GOOD.
Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass — I'm only mentioning this era because this Link is an ACTUAL CHILD. He's like, what? EIGHT? Maybe ten, if we're feeling generous? So I just want to say: Yeah... I just can't bring myself to ship this literal child with anybody. It ain't RIGHT.
Link's Awakening — Marink. If you weren't feeling these two by the time their sunset beach conversation wrapped up, I don't know what to even say to you. This was probably my first serious ship from playing the TLoZ games. Plus this ship is a good reason why the original black-and-white Game Boy version's secret ending is actually the best version of that bonus scene.
Twilight Princess — Ilink. Is there even any other contender worth mentioning? The writing and direction of the cut scenes makes it pretty clear that Link and Ilia are sweet on each other. You barely even meet Zelda in this game, and the only other option would probably be, well... Midna? You know - your partner imp that spends most of the game trash-talking you for her personal lulz and repeatedly slamming her body weight down HARD onto your spine? Mm, I’ll pass.
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Breath of the Wild/Age of Calamity/TotK — Miphlink/Miphalink, no items, FINAL DESTINATION. Their story makes my heart just ACHE. The flashback to Mipha healing him up... Mipha's diary (OMFG that diary)... the Zora armor and its descriptions... holy SHIT, fam. And even if that story DIDN'T melt me into a complete puddle, Zelda put herself out of consideration by stealing my fucking house. I don’t understand why she pulled that, but given her privileged upbringing, I doubt she understands the value/expense of home ownership. So maybe she thought this was like yoinking a french fry. :P
Haven't Played — The only major entry I haven't played yet is "Spirit Tracks" on the DS. So I can't speak to that incarnation at this point. But the two things I can say is A) The Zelda/Link relationship sure appears cute? but B) This is also the same style of Link seen in Wind Waker, so I won't be surprised if she's supposed to be a LITERAL CHILD again (and therefore not a shippable character for me).
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Things from Ocarina of Time that I didn't expect to think about as much as I have been:
Ganondorf starts out the game with round ears. he gets pointy ears later, presumably from either the triforce or just from living on Hyrule land.
The game talks about the Sheikah like they were wiped out a long time ago but we do meet one and that's Impa, meaning whatever happened to make the Sheikah go away was recent and likely had something to do with Zelda's own father.
Are Rauru and Kaepora Gaebora the same person or not? Initially I thought that Rauru just had an owl form he sends out to do real world stuff cause his human body is stuck in the sacred realm but since 99% of this story is only implied I can't tell if that's actually the case or if the stupid owl is a reincarnation of rauru or if they're unrelated or what.
the triforce gives Ganondorf a more point-and-shoot version of Zelda's botw powers where she can just create a sun at will which adds another layer to botwtotk zelda just kinda having the full triforce that I wouldn't have gotten without playing oot so. worth it.
Everything wrong with the writing in this game could've been fixed if the devs weren't racist as shit
the fucking sages are fucking fine and I'm still not over that
How much time passes between oot and mm anyways? Cause in oot you can't ride epona when you're a child cause epona is a baby horse she's too smol. But in majora's mask everyone's the same size but for some reason yeah riding epona is totally doable so what the hell
I love that in every subsequent appearance epona is this very calm and gentle horse that has the best temperament ever but in ocarina she's a fucking Flicka style untameable beast of a mare that bites fingers and tramples ranch hands that can only be kind of calmed by Link playing her little song and going "sh sh sh sh, we're not so different you and I" or whatever
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I saw in your FFXVI review that you'd played Tears of the Kingdom. What were your thoughts on Zelda's role in the game and story?
it was okay. i'll put this below a read more for spoilers. this will also talk more about the stories in general, because i feel like i can't say much about zelda's storylines without doing that
generally, i think i liked the execution a little better than how botw told its story. i loved botw, but it felt like the entire story was already 99% finished by the time link woke up. i didn't feel like i was developing a relationship to those characters as the player, i felt like i was being told about things that just kind of happened around link 100 years before i took control of him - things that he barely reacts to because of how little this version of link emotes in cutscenes. zelda was pretty fun at times, but her arc is really just "she's under immense pressure from her father to live up to her destiny as the reincarnation of hylia and save everyone... and then she does it, the end"
so i preferred the execution in totk, where it felt more like link and zelda had parallel adventures occurring in the present and the ancient past. zelda sets up a lot of things for you in the past, but you also have all the stories of the sages. they're not amazing or anything, but like, those are characters that YOU, the player, met and helped as part of YOUR adventures in the previous game, and now you'll continue to work alongside them and help them save their home regions. those storylines are built upon YOUR actions as the player, making you an active participant, as opposed to being told about link's relationships with the champions. and because link is completely absent from zelda's storyline, you're on the same page as him as you piece together what zelda was up to on her own, so i found that more engaging
the actual content of zelda's storyline in totk is, like... fine. she admittedly feels like kind of a passive observer for a lot of it, a mere point of view character for us to see what rauru was doing, until she finally has the idea to become a dragon and repair the master sword. but i thought that was a cool narrative move. that sacrifice feels like more of an interesting act of agency on her part than her living up to her father's expectations in botw
of course, yes, in the end zelda has to turn back to normal. she can't stay a dragon. it's cheap, but i dunno. did we really expect anything different? to me the only part that REALLY feels like a cop out is the fact that the tens of thousands of years she spent as a dragon are written off as feeling "like a dream" to her, rather than leaning into zelda waiting so many millennia to reunite with link. embrace that drama! but, like. it's a zelda game. they were always going to give us that happy ending where link and zelda are reunited and everything's back to normal
i think the thing to me is that, like. at this point in my life, at the ripe old age of 29, i accept that the stories in most zelda games are nothing to write home about. games like link's awakening and majora's mask are the exception, not the rule. zelda games have fun worlds and characters, they have occasional moments of brilliance, but they're straightforward hero's journey stories made to support the gameplay first and foremost. and most of the 3d zelda games at this point have some sort of ass pull in the final act - shit like zant being pushed aside for you to fight ganondorf, or tetra getting whitewashed and turned into a completely different character the second they reveal she's a zelda
i go to other games when i want a really nuanced, emotional story with a bittersweet ending. i'm not waiting up for zelda writing to blow me away like that, in the same way that i'm just playing other games with female protagonists instead of waiting up for them to make a game where you play as zelda
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I like peoples interpretations of Link where he's pissed at Hylia and the other gods, because angst is fun and the legend of zelda is the angst series. But i think most Links wouldn't be mad at the gods or goddesses. I am absolutely positive that botw/totk Link interacts with the Hylia statues like old friends. He actively helps the poe collector statues.
The only gods he gets mad at are the ones that put innocent people in harms way. And he isn't afraid to fight those gods to put a stop to it. Demise, the god of cyclones, any variety of Ganon or reincarnation of Demises hatred, Vatti, bellum, Majora, ect.
The only Link I can kinda see getting angsty about the gods and goddesses is oot mm Link. But he still does his duties as the chosen hero even after he dies. He might be mad at the deities that rule over their world, he might feel cursed by his role, but dammit he is going to fulfill his duties because it means people are safe. He is probably one of the few links to realize that the curse exists. And he probably accepts it, because it means he can keep coming back to protect others even if it is a different version of himself. He even trained another version of himself. I am sure he is incredibly proud of Tp link
#legend of zelda#the legend of zelda#loz#tloz#legend of zelda ocarina of time#loz oot#loz wind waker#loz breath of the wild#loz botw#link loz#loz link#loz hylia#loz headcanons#zelda headcanon#zelda botw#zelda#tears of the kingdom#loz totk#totk
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My Top 5 Favorite Zelda Villains (outdated)
Number 1. Ganondorf/Ganon - Honestly after so many years, Ganondorf still holds up as a villain. Ganon was the biproduct of a curse created by Demise to ensure that his hate is reincarnated just so he can destroy Link and Zelda’s descendants, and Ganondorf himself was born as the only male in a desert that belonged tribe to warrior women known as The Gerudo, eventually ending up as their king thanks to Gerudo traditions. Ganondorf had a huge presence in Ocarina of Time, manipulating you into locating the Triforce and immediately took over Hyrule during your time skip. In Hyrule Warriors, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and A Link To The Past, he adapts in some form either that be because of genuine character development, an ego increase, or a desire for revenge. However in Breath of the Wild, the end of all three timelines, he fully succumbs to Demise’s curse and uses his hate to create an entity known as Calamity Ganon. In short, Ganon started out as an intelligent and ambitious king, a man to be exact, but eventually he turned into a beast fueled by hate. Then in Tears of The Kingdom he returns, and not only so we learn that he DIDN’T succumb to Demise’s curse after all, we learn that 1,000 years ago, he reincarnated and began to EMBRACE it becoming the new Demon King in the process, and he came back to life to continue his reign. Overall Ganondorf is a surprisingly versatile and interesting take on a evil king, combining power with intellect, tragedy, anger, class, and pure EVIL which is why he’s the greatest villain in gaming history and fiction in general.
Number 2. Majora - When Nintendo was making Majora’s Mask, they KNEW that they couldn’t just make Ganondorf the villain again, so the developers cooked up a pretty great and just as iconic substitute. A batshit insane and mysterious mask that wants to hurl a moon into the planet and cause chaos! Majora is basically a childish eldrich abomination, and much like Ganondorf, he appears rarely throughout the story, yet we see the damage he’s pretty much caused to the land of Termina. Overall this insane cryptic is deserving of the number 2 spot on this list.
Number 3. Vaati, The Wind Mage - The king of underrated villains. Vaati could easily be compared to Ansem/Terranort from Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2. A young, ambitious, and curious apprentice explores the darkness in the hearts of men, becomes power hungry, and then becomes an insane creature of darkness. He’s also the only major Zelda villain to canonically appear in 3 games, a feat not even Ghirahim has achieved. Also I find it hilarious and sad that he basically went from “I need power” to “Hmm, I shall kidnap maidens and the Princess.” Bro really became lustful after he got his ass bear and lost his mind! In all seriousness though, Vaati is a Ganon tier villain, and I wouldn’t mind seeing him again. Such a shame that Nintendo ignores thie guy.
Number 4. Yuga - Yes, I know this guy is Lorulean equivalent of Ganondorf. Yes, I know that he hijacked Ganon instead of it being the other way around, but if I’m being honest… Yuga is a breath of fresh air when it comes to the classic timeline games, both as a concept and as an actual character. A Link Between Worlds is nowhere near perfect, but Yuga was an excellent villain, purely because he’s basically Ganondorf without the status as royalty, muscle to back his mind, commanding appearance, or the overwhelming power he’s known for. Yuga is a simple sorcerer and an “artist” who looks like a clown. The only things they share is they’re both manipulative, cunning, ambitious, and pure evil. In short, Yuga is a perfect subversion of Ganondorf, while still carrying that same sense of danger, and in terms of 2D Zelda villains he’s great.
Number 5. Ghirahim - The only Zelda villain who won succeeded in carrying out his plans, and it had serious consequences for the rest of the series. Ghirahim as a character is vain and flamboyant, but he is not a pushover in the slightest, which makes sense since he’s the literal sword of Demise! Still the fact that he did indeed free his master is impressive, and the best part is that is feels earned. What a magnificent bastard.
#ganondorf#ganon#Majora#vaati#yuga#ghirahim#the legend of zelda#legend of zelda#ranking#(one behind the mask) Mun Izunia
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i always interpreted demises curse as condemning hyrule to a fate where the circumstances it creates will always lead to someone like ganondorf appearing. its why theres such a massive gap of time between skyward sword and OoT, when logically demises hatred shouldve been fine to just Create A Guy anytime between those games right? but by this logic, the circumstances surrounding hyrule werent right yet. OoT comes on the tail end of a war, implied to be one between hyrule and the gerudo to fold them into the kingdom. the gerudo are unhappy with the current arrangement and hyrule is less than thrilled with their lack of cooperation. hyrule has a black site where they disappear political dissidents maintained by a shadowy group of guardians who answer solely to the royal family. the circumstances werent *right* for demises curse beforehand. hyrule hadnt dug its own grave, hadnt created a world so easy to hate, beforehand. but demises curse would guarantee that hyrule *would* create those circumstances, trapping the heros spirit and the descendant of hylia. they can leave at any point. they do in spirit tracks. but moat of the time? they *wont*. and the cycle keeps repeating because of it. as long as there is hyrule, hyrule will give rise to hatred, and demises curse ensures someone will rise that just. snaps. and becomes the vehicle of hyrules self created darkness to try and drag it down
its an interpretation that isnt as explicit as other, more literal, readings of demises curse, but isnt without canon support and is what im personally fond of. i wish it was an angle nintendo pushed more often, or even just. discussed skyward sword beyond referencing its locations and names
Actually anon my preferred way of interpreting the curse of Demise is exactly as you mention, that Hyrule would always create circumstances that would allow a harbinger of darkness to rise and spread destruction across Hyrule. In fact, if the official timeline is to be taken into account (which, given the current comments from Nintendo, EHEM), the first instance of this would have been Vaati since the Minish Cap and Four Swords are slotted in between Skyward Sword and OoT. Then you also have other villains like Majora's Mask, Bellum, Malladus, Yuga etc. that would all be instances of this phenomena (and maybe the Fierce Deity too? He is an Oni himself eheheheh). Before Skyward Sword was even a thing, Ganondorf mentions as much in Twilight Princess, that this struggle between light and darkness is divinely ordained and will continue throughout history.
My argument in my post is that, given the context of the game (Hylia reincarnating as Zelda, manipulating Link's feelings, Demise being her enemy, GROOSE) I don't think that it's unlikely that they were thinking of Ganondorf being a reincarnation of Demise. In Hyrule Historia they mention in the design notes that they made Demise to resemble Ganondorf, and then you have the Demon King Ganondorf's design which looks very similar to Demise. In other words, both points of view do have canonical evidence to back them up. I prefer the former waaaaaay over the latter, especially after seeing TotK (juuuuuust because Ganondorf may or may not be an incarnation of a demon doesn't mean he has to be written so one dimensionally and evil).
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heehoo i loke your Links, stuff abt them plz??
Oh hi! Sorry I didn’t get to this sooner! I didn’t check my tumblr for a hot second oops
But yes I’d love to talk about them! For botw/totk Link, I’m waiting to actually buy and play the game before I fully solidify him. I’ll give a brief rundown of each of them here, but feel free to ask more about any specific Link :)
Skyward Sword:
Tired in multiple ways. He was more carefree before the start of his adventure, but there are a lot of reasons to be concerned about these days, especially when you’re babysitting your reincarnations, some of which are older than you
That’s not to say he doesn’t know how to chill out and sit back. Given permission, he will instantly drop all responsibilities on whoever is left to deal with it
23 y/o
Huge sweetheart once you get him to stop worrying about things
Potential nicknames: Cloudy, Floater, Feathers
Minish Cap/Four Swords/Four Swords Adventures
I have an explanation for the timeline nonsense I swear. Don’t worry about it
Generally friendly, enthusiastic, and thoughtful, but he has his moments of absolute impulse. Knows far more than he should… probably. He very much enjoys being mysterious just because he’s a little gremlin
He hates being timed
20 y/o
Potential nicknames: Forge, Smith, Mini
Is currently undergoing a redesign
Ocarina of Time/Majora’s Mask
He’s in his edgy teen phase. Moody and has disdain for authority, but he’s still got that undeniable kindness in him. Avoids attachment but just can’t help himself
Mostly homeless, as he’s usually traveling, but he’s always got a home at Lon Lon Ranch with his friend Malon. Kakariko likes him, too.
17 y/o
Potential nicknames: Mask, Eyepatch, Sapling
A Link to the Past/the Oracle games/Link’s Awakening
Most people’s first impressions of him are that he’s quite untrusting and melancholy and that he’s very competent. Once he gets used to someone, though, he’ll open up and mess with them like an annoying sibling. Very clever, knowledgeable, and a jack of all trades. Curiosity will be his downfall
Helps his Uncle run the apple orchard. Has expanded it into farming berries as well
17 y/o
Potential nicknames: Collector, Cartographer, Pinky, Apples
A Link Between Worlds/Triforce Heroes
Very cheerful and friendly. Highly skilled in the arts, though he hasn’t had the chance to mess with yarnwork yet. Low self-esteem but only expresses it in the most concerningly casual ways
Fantastic liar. He fully blames Ravio for this
19 y/o
Potential nicknames: Artisan, Painter, Mirror
Zelda 1/Adventure of Link
At first glance, he is already done with everyone's bullcrap, but really he's a very patient and considerate guy. He is incredibly blunt about things, though. Not as suspicious of people as he probably should be, but hey, what's one more crazy thing happening?
Loves discovering new things. Has a soft spot for soft things like pillows and fairies. Tone deaf.
21 y/o
Potential nicknames: Mage, Explorer, Adventurer, Calatian
Twilight Princess
Generally quiet and reserved but will step in when he deems it necessary. Skilled at keeping the group wrangled. He is fiercely protective of his loved ones and is not as responsible as he comes off as
Doesn't turn into a wolf often. Alternates between helping out Mayor Bo with Ordon and taking commissions for the Resistance
24 y/o
Potential nicknames: Goatherd, Farmer
Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass
Friendly in a loud, boisterous sort of way, but when it comes down to it, he can quiet down and become reliable and responsible if he needs to. Fairly easygoing until he sets his mind onto something, in which case, he's going to accomplish his goals one way or another
Finds the others while mapping out the new continent, so for all intents and purposes, he basically goes missing. Does not like birds.
27 y/o
Potential nicknames: Pirate, Sailor, Sea Dog
Spirit Tracks
usually soft-spoken and polite, but will get a bit louder the more comfortable he is. Much better at puzzles and mechanics than swordfighting. Still works as a royal engineer and is good friends with his Zelda
He sees dead people :/
15 y/o
Potential nicknames: Engineer, Piper, Steam, Conductor
Hyrule Warriors
snarky in a friendly way and will joke around to lighten the mood, but he can be perfectly serious when he needs to be. A natural and skillful leader. Loves kids and dabbles in fashion
Regrets that he has to leave his era’s Hyrule because he’s got a duty to the kingdom, but his Zelda insisted that he went. After all, he’s got his duty as a hero, too
32 y/o
Potential nicknames: Commander, Sir, Ser
Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom
very honest with his emotions and thoughts, and he will habitually go off and do things on his own without waiting for anyone else. Doesn't quite understand social conventions
Thought the others were either very creative yiga or very lost travelers when he first met them
20 y/o
Potential nicknames: Archer, Survivalist, Champion
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sooooo I've been cooking up something in my head, an au maybe idk I'm not much as a good writer or artist to do so but I can rant about it so meh.
Guide as a powerful and knowledgeable entity not just as the player but an actual godly entity.
- they float around like skull kid does when he had the majora's mask.
- their appearance is not human, their non-attachable floating head is the triforce with an sheikah eye symbol right in the middle (just like bill cipher ik 😑)
- they can change their head into the masks Young Link used in majora's mask to express what they are feeling or they do it for fun.
- they wear a massive cloak that has very each symbols from the previous Zelda games engraved, all of them go in layers to the "first" hero to the "last".
-their body is a wooden mannequin but worn out with scratches and they have symbol's engraved on the back that resembles The chain.
- They can shapeshift to a human form if they go to a crowded place.
Backstory: They made a deal to Hylia for entertainment because when you're a immortal entity and things can go boring real fast. The deal goes like this "For each era, you must guide the hero's of courage to their victory of defeating demise's reincarnation. Your powers will have to be limited to an extent, your knowledge will be the same but you can't tell too much until it is time. Once the journey is over you will be ascended to the next era to guide the next hero." so Guide agreed out of boredom, they help the hero's and you know the rest.
Personality: they didn't have any empathy, they are carefree, oblivious to anyone's feelings and didn't care about the other gods. after the deal was made they developed to care about people and sympathies.
(Guide is a asshole but becomes a better person slowburn 👀) they panic when link takes a hit and worries about anything bad happening to link and the people they come to like. They are still carefree to an extent, an total dumbass when it comes to other people's feelings but they are learning, silly funny clown most of the time, sarcastic and caring.
alright I'm done explaining my au, i hope you like this!
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(if any gammar mistakes im sorry.)
I LOVE THIS AU!!! It's an awesome take on the Guide! And we love slow burns, Player learning to feel with the boys and show empathy despite being so stoic for a majority of their life- I'm a slut for a slow burn (but also go insane over them OIUGFGIF LIKE COME ON)
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Majora Reincarnate: Relvi.
The physical form of the God Majora, he is the patron God of Termina and it’s creator, as well as destroyer. A lonely and immature individual who cannot stand the idea of others existing happily while he was sealed away within a mask for so many years. Both despises and yearns for the Fierce Deity, a conflict of feelings so great he forces himself to form a physical form simply to throttle the God.
His design has homage to not only Majora’s wrath and incarnate forms, but is also a nod to Link’s purple haired foils, Kafei and Ravio.
#legend of zelda#Zelda#majoras mask#Majora#original character#my design#loz fan character#fan character#relvi#reference sheet
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