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yours-etc · 2 years
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I NEED MORE LUMAX CONTENT
- them playing games in the arcade together
- max and lucas playing one on one basketball lucas going easy on max to let her win just so he can watch her be a dork and run around gloating saying shit like “maybe i should be the basketball star”
- max and wearing lucas’ letterman jacket
- lucas making a big spectacle and asking max to homecoming after he makes the winning basket of the game
- them getting a milkshake with two straws
- falling asleep watching movies with the crew
- steve taking their homecoming pictures and being a gross gushing mom
- lucas asking steve advice about a skateboard he got for max’s birthday
- matching christmas sweaters that they “hate” but wear all the time
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yourelosingains · 1 year
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you cannot possibly tell me these pictures don’t give off fruity vibes
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weirdo09 · 1 year
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bisexual supremacy <3
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i love this too much<333
@adorewillbyers @byleriscannonparty @pimplepogue @vivelegalite @verashalurks @yelenapines @no-ordinary-demigirl @xhavibee
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hopelessromanticfr · 2 years
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lucas listens to steve lacy and the smiths, will listens to taylor swift & phobe bridges, max listens to girl in red ( REAL ) ( CONFIRMED )
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jugheadthelesbian · 2 years
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just finished lucas on the line. i apologize for the person ive become bc of it. literally making a lumax playlist rn and expect another lumax oneshot soon
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upsidedog · 8 months
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i am so charmed by a lumax wedding because it’s not even something max thought would happen. like she assumed weddings were something the girl makes happen and the guy puts up with. and because she had no desire for one, so there’s no reason it would happen.
among other things weddings are an exorbitant and performative show of love, max loves lucas and she doesn’t care whether or not other people know or believe this. at it’s best marriage to her has been a representation of failed dreams and at it’s worst it’s been a tool to manipulate people who need to get away to stay. maybe they will get married for the tax benefits, she thinks.
this is until max and lucas are older and living together, they’re chilling on the couch and lucas mentions his family has been asking when he’s planning to propose and if that’s something max even wants? max doesn’t care, she doesn’t plan on going anywhere, a certificate won’t change anything and she's not crazy about parties. she doesn’t ask how he feels, he brings it up, that “actually i want a wedding.”
that is saying the least, lucas wants a wedding more than anything. he loves max and he doesn’t need to prove that to anyone, but he’s happy and he wants to share that with others! he wants to work with max to make marriage a positive thing to them, he wants to celebrate their love, everything they’ve been through. also, hell, he’s only human, he wants to show off! he wants to dress really cool and go to a really cool place and show the world know how awesome he and his girlfriend are. HIS WIFE!!!
most of all, lucas wants the moment near the end of the night, where the party’s getting loud and everybody wants his attention, but max asks if he wants to get out of there and he says yes. not out out, just outside the venue. it’s dark and the once booming music is now faint, they sit and catch up, complain about their families, laugh about their friends. max holds lucas’s hand and plays with his wedding ring, she whispers something sweet before asking him to dance. it’s the best part of the night and nobody will know about it but them.
suddenly max decides she wants a wedding.
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shutuperce · 7 months
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your fall 2023 byler reading list 🍂🍂
BIG BYLER FIC REC DUMP cause i haven't been writing a lot but i HAVE been reading and y'all need to read these! hope u enjoy as much as i did <3
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got your spell on me, baby - @astrobei -Stranger Things (TV 2016) [Archive of Our Own]
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TW: none
'To be fair, Will’s costume is great, now that Mike knows what it is. And, okay, wait-
“Oh, this is so good. This is so good.” Max points at Mike, wheezing. “Because you’re dressed as-”
Will’s still looking straight up at the sky. The length of his neck is very, very flushed. Mike can feel his entire face going redder than Vader’s lightsaber. He clenches his hands into tiny little fists, and says, around a groan: “I’m not Han Solo, guys.”'
THE halloween byler fic. the party at college, bi lucas sinclair content, halloween party shenanigans.
these nerds, using star wars to flirt 🙄
background lumax & their amazing couples costume, el & will power sibling duo!!!
bowie references to heal the soul
all in all one of my favourite getting-together fics for this time of year :)
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what a match: i'm half-doomed and you're semi-sweet - @perexcri - Stranger Things (TV 2016) [Archive of Our Own]
Words: 28,150
TW: guns, blood, gore (just demodogs though no human gore)
'One month ago, if you had asked Will Byers what he’d do if Mike Wheeler threaded his fingers through his hair, looked him dead in the eyes, and started leaning in for a kiss, he wouldn’t have said this.
He wouldn’t have said he’d be staring right back into those yawning dark eyes, one hand on Mike’s waist, the other against his cheek. There wouldn’t have been any lightning in his veins or blood rushing in his ears.
He wouldn’t have said that Mike Wheeler would be tilting his head in the opposite direction, eyes widening just the slightest as if asking permission, his mouth slightly parted.
He wouldn’t have imagined it at all.'
SO SO GOOD. apocalypse post s4, background jancy and platonic stobin, interruption trope x10000 so it's SO SATISFYING at the end.
WILL WITH A GUN.
jonathan & mike solidarity <3
all in all amazingly well written mike and will being blushing messes. love them. fluff in the apocalypse.
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take my hand, wreck my plans - @parkitaco - Stranger Things (TV 2016) [Archive of Our Own]
Words: 6,297
TW: discussion of past trauma
'"I am not taken," he says out of habit, even though he kind of is. He and Will aren't together - he blushes at the thought - but they do spend an awful lot of time together, and Mike doesn't ever find himself wishing he was anywhere else. "Will and I are-"
"Ooh, I didn't even say anything about Will!" Max crows. "Oh, this is excellent."
Mike hides his face in his hands even though she can't see him. "Oh my God. Can you put Lucas back on, please?"
Max cackles in to the receiver, the sound fading as Lucas presumably wrenches the phone out of her grip. "We gotta go, Mike," he says, laughing a little. "Max has class and I'm driving her."
"Tell her she's the worst," Mike grumbles, fiddling with the phone cord.
"Say hi to Will for me!" Lucas sings, and hangs up before Mike can protest.
Mike groans and flops back on his mattress. It's going to be a long year.'
part of a series!! byler college au, friends-to-lovers, background party friendship, AND THEY WERE ROOMMATES. OH MY GOD, THEY WERE ROOMMATES??
taylor swift title... do u really need any other persuasion
the whole series is just AMAZING. mike & will getting a break, living together at college and figuring shit out <3
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i might be hoping about this - @astrobei - Stranger Things (TV 2016) [Archive of Our Own]
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TW: none
'Will lets out a small squawk as Mike’s hand— his very cold, very freezing hand— finds its way around the blankets and under his sweater. “I’m sick, you weirdo,” he says, half-laughing into the side of Mike’s head, “I have a fever.” 
“I don’t care,” Mike mumbles, “you’re warm and I’m cold. This is nice.”
“You’re going to get sick,” Will tries, for the umpteenth time, but it’s pointless. Mike Wheeler is stubborn and hardheaded and he never does anything halfway— not even this.'
established byler at college!! so yeah i have a love of college byler and this is one of my top fics for sure. 2nd astrobi fic on this list because i love their writing <3
will gets sick, mike takes care of him. need i say more?
silly goofy guys living together & doing silly goofy domestic shit
this fic makes me SOFT.
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accidentally on purpose - @itsromeowrites - Stranger Things (TV 2016) [Archive of Our Own]
Words: 5,019
TW: none
'It starts out with a kiss. An accidental kiss. Because Mike is sleepy and Will is pretty, and who can really blame him? And then there's another one, just as accidental. But the third? Well, that may be a little more on purpose.'
literally smiling so hard at this fic. like hello. soft secret boyfriends and loads of party content, all the kids are okay <3
established byler, how the party finds out. all fluff all the time. jonathan attempts the Talk. mike has no idea what's going on. et cetera.
background lumax, lucas & dustin being lil shits together, and el using her powers to cheat at splashing games. all in all a good time!
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and if I get burned, at least we were electrified - anonymous - Stranger Things (TV 2016) [Archive of Our Own]
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TW: none
'“I’ll leave you be until lunch,” Max starts negotiating, nodding at him as if that’s a good deal. Which—considering it's Max, it is, but Mike doesn’t want to give in just yet. She sighs. “I won’t laugh about the sweater anymore. Or the weak disposition that gives you stupid allergies all the time.”
Mike’s frown deepens, but she wasn’t as mean as she could have been, so he’s gonna take it. He needs to get this out anyways, or he’s going to keep running in circles as if stuck in a hamster wheeler—an accurate representation of his brain when it comes to Will, really. He presses his lips together and tries to figure out a subtle, non-funny way to say it, but he comes up blank.
Fuck, whatever: “I almost kissed Will. Again.”
Max actually has to cover her mouth with her hand, disguising a worryingly loud snort with a cough. The teacher turns their way and stares, then goes back to explaining the exercise on the board. Mike scribbles it down while Max gets herself under control.
Screw his life.'
senior year, post-vecna. the party being friends but also little shits to each other.
madwheeler bandmates!!!
will steals mike's entire closet
they are Dumb Idiots who are mutually pining from afar
and other lovable tropes. takes place in november so good fall vibes :)
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stranger-theory · 3 months
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Song & Scene Analysis, Lumax vs Byler
I've also posted this on the Byler Subreddit, so if you see it there, hi, that's me!
I’m sure you’re aware of song importance in Stranger Things, with the Duffer Brothers saying sometimes it takes weeks to pick a song that conveys the exact message they’re trying to portray. I’ve seen quite a bit of theories around what songs mean what, but there’s one specific song that caught my attention.
There’s a scene in season two, episode six where Lucas and Max speak on top of a bus in the junkyard. It’s a lovely scene in which Max explains her behavior to Lucas, and apologizes for some stuff she wasn’t proud of. She says she’s sorry for acting like a jerk, and doesn’t ever want to be like that, but she feels overwhelmed with her home life and takes it out on people she doesn’t mean to. She then expresses that she likes California, and sometimes wants to go home, but having Lucas there with her for comfort makes her feel better. Max makes a call back to their “Stalker” joke, with a shared laugh. This emotional scene is then cut off by the sighting of a demodog, and a tense scene plays.
Now you know the base of the conversation, let me tell you about a similar scene I see as a parallel. Season four, episode four bedroom talk. This scene is between Mike and Will, where Mike apologizes to Will. In his apology he says he’s sorry for acting like a jerk, but everything with El was just so overwhelming, and he doesn’t want Will to feel like their argument was personal. Mike explains to Will that he likes it in Hawkins, but since Will moved to California, Hawkins feels different. He misses Will. They share a “Cool” with each other and sit in silence while smiling, but are cut off by the doorbell as Jack’s men come searching for El.
These scenes may not feel as similar as I'm insisting with just this information, but there’s a very key portion to this parallel: Music.
I’m going to go through these scenes at the same time to help you understand where I’m coming from. At the current moments in time for these scenes, Lucas/Will have a like Max/Mike, but don’t know how to confront them about it. Max/Mike both apologize to Lucas/Will for hurting them when they didn’t mean to. Max/Mike say the reason they acted like this was because they felt overwhelmed with their lives at the moment. Max/Mike say that they like California/Hawkins, but without Lucas/Will, it wouldn’t be the same. Max/Mike make a callback to “Stalker/Cool”. Almost directly after these heartfelt talks, they’re interrupted with the intense Demodog/Goverment scenes. The same song plays in these scenes to further imply that we’re supposed to view them the same way. The camera slowly zooms closer on their reactions to help the audience understand better, and help it feel more intimate.
These are things you basically can’t deny, as I’m just stating the facts of these scenes. From all of these similarities and comparisons, we can also further suspect other aspects of these scenes. Something we’re allowed to assume is that, like Max, Mike also has feelings for Will. If the original scene including this song is meant to be interpreted as romantic, then why would the second be any different? If the original scene is meant to be read as a “romantic” and “intimate” apology, then why would the second scene suddenly be a purely platonic interaction? If they’d wanted us as an audience to think otherwise, then they would have chosen a different way to portray this scene.
I thank you greatly for listening to me rant about why this scene drove me crazy. I’ve been looking forward to posting this the moment I got tumblr, but with my very on fire Spongebob looking brain, I never remembered. I’d love love looooove to hear your thoughts and add ons to this, ESPECIALLY corrections if i’ve somehow misinterpreted something. I wouldn't want to spread misinformation. Have a good morning, afternoon, or night, folks.
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do you have any favorite byler or elmax hcs <33
i lowkey confuse headcanons with predictions. i kinda always think of plausible scenarios and i think headcanons are more like “wills scared of thunder storms” or something like that lmao. so yes, but these are also things i genuinely think could happen in s5.
byler:
s5 ends with a prom and mikes anxious to go with will and will keeps reassuring him that theyre going in a big group and no one will question them. a slow song plays and theyre just sitting at a table and then mike gets up and leads him to a room in the school (maybe the room hellfire was in) and they slow dance and laugh and have fun and feel free.
in the original character description for mike he was written to have a huge birthmark on his face that he was insecure of and bullied for. i think itd be interesting if a monster gave him a big face scar and will would still call him beautiful.
when they were kids i think they were so close and had so many sleepovers and held hands and stuff that a lot of lonnies homophobic comments were directly from seeing will around mike. id love if one of them brought this up during a sentimental talk.
again, not really a headcanon, more of a prediction: THE PAINTING REVELATION IS NOT A FIGHT!!!!!!!!
lumax:
i believe max will be blind in s5 and i want lucas to take her to a movie and describe everything thats happening and not care when people try to shush him
he helps her skateboard while blind and guides her
this is kinda more max centered than lumax but if she is blind, i hope she has a moment of clarity that helps defeat vecna thats not visual. like the whole groups thinking of his weaknesses and how to kill him but theyre all thinking of what they know just from what theyve seen but maybe max picked up on something with sound or texture and it leads to them saving the day and living happily ever after the end.
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strangeswift · 1 year
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madwheeler hug pretty please 🙏🙏🙏🤲🤲🤲
Congratulations Maddy eightieslesbian you have been selected to receive ✨️a ficlet✨️
This is set in New York, Mike and Max are college roommates. The rest of the party is scattered across the country, with Will in California. Mike isn't happy about that.(Established Byler and Lumax)
Tw for alcohol use and I guess alcohol as a coping mechanism, it could definitely read as alcoholism though that wasn't my intention so uh.. tw for alcoholism just in case <3
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Mike wasn’t sulking. And he wasn’t drunk.
This is what he told himself as he sat on the floor of his apartment, pouring himself another glass of shitty wine.
He sighed and leaned against the couch as he heard the front door open. He listened to the jingling of keys as Max set her stuff down. He heard her go into the kitchen, then she came into the living room, still taking her jacket off. When she saw Mike she stopped in her tracks and fixed her gaze on him, putting her hands on her hips.
“You’re drunk,” she accused.
“N’m’not,” Mike responded, quite affronted that she would even suggest such a thing.
“And you’re sulking,” she added.
“Nope,” Mike slurred.
“We talked about this,” Max said, sounding a little sad.
And Mike knew they’d talked about it. They’d talked about the drinking and the sulking. He didn’t really understand the issue now though, seeing as he was not sulking or drunk.
Max sighed and strode over to him, tossing her jacket on the couch and sitting on the floor next to him, leaning against the couch so they were shoulder to shoulder. She grabbed his wine glass from the coffee table and took a sip as he lazily protested, “Hey!”
She waved him off as she gulped down half the glass and set it back down.
“You gotta put your jacket away,” he reminded her. Ever since Max lectured him about leaving his stuff laying around, he made sure to never let her get away with leaving any of her stuff out.
She scoffed and nodded, “Sure, Mike.”
He huffed. They sat in silence for a few minutes.
“I miss them too, you know,” Max finally said.
“Yeah I know, but-” Mike started.
“Yeah, I know. He promised,” Max said.
He nodded. “He promised we would go to college together and that we would never be apart cuz he said he loved me.”
Max chuckled. “Will loves you, idiot. You guys made that promise when you were seventeen. You know going to California was a big opportunity for him. You told him to go, Mike.”
“Yeah but I didn't think he’d actually go,” Mike said.
“Yes you did,” she reminded him, grabbing the wine glass and downing the rest, “This is terrible. Have you ever heard of beer? Or tequila?”
Mike rolled his eyes, “Yeah I heard’ve it. Have you heard’ve leavin’ me alone because you’re just bein’ mean and stealin’ my wine?”
“You really wanna be alone right now?” Max asked quietly.
Mike paused. Then sighed and opened the bottle of wine, taking a swig straight from the bottle and passing it to Max.
“How’s work?” he slurred.
“Same old. Asshole customers. Shitty tips,” she said.
“Did you bring me pie?” he asked pitifully.
“‘Course I brought you pie,” she said with a small smile, “you want me to get it?”
He nodded, and she got up for a second, then came back with a to go container and two forks.
“Did you eat dinner?” she asked.
He held up the bottle of wine to indicate that that was dinner.
She laughed and opened the container, “Okay good. Cuz it’s important to have dinner before dessert.”
“You sound like my mom,” he said, grabbing a fork and taking a bite.
She scoffed, “I’ll try not to be offended by that. Your mom’s pretty hot, I guess.”
“Ew!” he yelled, his mouth full of key lime pie.
Max shushed him, “We have neighbors.”
“Sorry neighbors!” he yelled, laughing as she slapped his arm.
“You’re gonna get us kicked out,” she said, fighting back a grin.
“Good, then I’ll just go live with Will in California,” Mike said.
“Yeah? You’ll drop out of school?” she asked.
Mike shoved more pie into his mouth and nodded.
“And you’ll leave me all alone?” Max asked, feigning sadness.
“No, you can come. But no room you gotta sleep in the closet,” Mike said.
“Wouldn’t it make more sense for you to stay in the closet, since you spent so many years in there?” Max asked with a smirk.
“That’s so mean, Max. I’m telling Lucas,” Mike said.
She laughed, “Okay, sorry. I’ll sleep in Will’s closet in California.”
Mike nodded in approval and they finished the pie in silence. Then Max set the container on the coffee table.
Mike sighed. “I wanna call him but he’s probably out with his art friends.”
“Yeah, probably,” she agreed.
Suddenly Mike felt his chest tightening, he let his head hit the back of the couch and squeezed his eyes shut.
“Mike. He’s coming to visit in six weeks. It’s gonna be okay,” Max said.
He nodded, but he couldn’t stop the tear that escaped. He wiped it away quickly.
God. He was drunk. And he was sulking. And he was crying, and in front of Max.
“Hey, Mike?” she asked quietly.
He didn’t respond, he didn’t trust his voice.
Then he felt small arms wrap around him and hair tickling his skin.
Max was hugging him. She must be drunk. He opened his eyes and almost asked what the hell she was doing, but she squeezed him a little tighter, and it felt… nice. Safe. So, he wrapped his arms around her and squeezed back. He didn’t have the cognizance to be embarrassed.
“Mike?” she asked.
“Hmm?” he hummed into her hair.
“We don’t have to tell the party about this,” she said with a laugh.
“Definitely not,” he agreed, but he didn’t let go. Not for a long time.
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will80sbyers · 1 year
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The talk of the movie date and enzos happening at the end of the last season is so cute bc I love the idea of Hopper and Joyce finally getting their little cute restaurant date and it’s been a little time skip after they all defeat vecna so it’s been like either a few month or a year or so they’ve been dating so this is a special date where their storyline ends with Hopper proposing to her (I don’t think we would get a Jopper wedding cause I think that’s maybe too soon depending on the time skip that happens at the end usually) and before they go on their date Jonathan, Will and El help hype Hopper up cause he came to them with the idea first and they reassure him before they leave for enzos that Joyce will be over the moon like I need to see the byers-hoppers family dynamic in action in a normal setting before we end the show. I also love the movie date for Lumax too cause I can imagine seeing them sitting together in a little cinema watching some spooky horror movie and laughing and giggling and Lucas describing the movie in extreme detail and Max telling him to stop being gross she can hear the sound effects just fine and they’re finally happy. I can imagine Robin and Vickie going to the same college together and getting out of Hawkins together finally and Nancy and Jonathan either going to the same college together too or Nancy is back from Emerson and Jonathan is back from NYU depending on how they do their plot line and Steve is still in Hawkins (L) so he’s there to welcome them back too for the holidays and Hellfire club (now ran by both Dustin and Mike RIP Eddie) is taking place for their last session at Christmas in the Wheeler basement with the og party and Erica, as per season one Karen interrupts them to say that Nancy and Jonathan are back for the holidays so they should come and say hi, everyone else runs up to greet them but Will and Mike stay behind to talk about how this is what home feels like now that they’re back together, playing games on the basement together again like they’ve both always wanted. Bonus, Murray is having a heated debate about some government conspiracy in the Wheeler living room with Ted Wheeler. Like they’ve said the last season ends similarly to the first and that one ends at Christmas with everyone together only this time they’re ALL together and all finally happy. Like will all of this happen? No probably not however it’s more likely that it ends happily like this than it does tragic like these leak people really want it to for whatever reason.
I love this so so much I hope you're a divine Oracle ❤️
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yours-etc · 2 years
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lumax 🤝 holding my mental stability in their hands 🤝 steddie
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crappymixtape · 1 year
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OH OH OH
I wanna ask about all of these but....hmmmm....
Our house? Lumax?! 👀
-@superblysubpar
omg i love you for asking about this one, bb 🥲 OKAY SO. lumax was one of the first ST fics pairings i started writing for. i love them. they're one of my favorite pairings, probably number one favorite from the show. probably because i'm max LOL. BUT after i posted a few here i didn't see many people engaging, so i thought maybe it wasn't the vibe?? which, now i realize idgaf 🤣 soooo flash forward to me in the car hearing this shit and nearly sobbing at this idea that leapt from the speakers, our house...
our house • lumax WIP
Lucas heaved a sigh as he pushed the last two boxes from the van onto the already too-crowded kitchen counter, wiping the sweat from his brow, "I think that's it?"
"It better be, Sinclair. Jesus," Steve huffed from the doorway, floor lamp in hand as Max and Eddie appeared over his shoulder.
“Now, now, Stevie,” Eddie chided, grabbing the lamp from him, “They did get us beer.” Steve fixed Eddie with a look as Max chimed in.
“Can always take it to go,” she snarked and Lucas had to cough to cover a laugh.
“Maybe I will,” Steve threatened and Eddie kicked a toe into the back of his knee.
“Shut it, you. Y’all good? We can get outta your hair.”
Looking around the small apartment, their apartment, Max felt her lips tugging up into a smile. One of those stupid smiles that just wanted to keep growing, made your cheeks hurt, and she had to bite the inside of her cheek to stifle it.
She and Lucas had been saving up for months, squirreling away every penny to scrounge up enough for a deposit. Max at the local skate shop and Lucas delivering pizza. It had taken longer than they’d wanted it to, but it didn’t matter now that they were there. Standing in the living room. Surrounded by brown cardboard boxes, laundry baskets full of clothes, half-built skateboards and a duffle bag bursting at the seams with Dungeons and Dragons manuals.
It was small, but it was theirs and it was good.
“You don’t have to go–”
“That’d be nice,” Max felt her cheeks flush as she cut Lucas off mid-sentence and Steve shook his head, grinning all the while.
“Alright, alright. C’mon, Munson.” Steve grabbed his well-earned beer off the counter in one hand, the other snagging Eddie by the jacket and dragging him out the door.
“Don’t do anything I wouldn’t do! And wrap it, Sinclair!” Eddie yelled over his shoulder.
“Oh my god! Shut up!” Lucas choked out, face burning with embarrassment as the two older boys laughed their way to Steve’s BMW.
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lumism · 2 years
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anyways live love laugh lumax or whatever it is that kids say
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spicybylerpolls · 2 months
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WOW that lumax sex scene was such a killer ask!
i too have thought about that, and never said anything lol. this is also my first ask on this blog... uh, hi! *nervous wave* long time lurker, first time caller lol
so i voted number 4. "it would not make sense for their arcs."
and it got me thinking about all the bylers who dont think a sex scene would be necessary for mike and will's arcs.
firstly, i think a lot of that is compensation: people acknowledge that sex and sexuality is very important for will especially, but that a kiss scene 'will suffice'. which implies subsidisation and euphemism, aka a kiss being metaphorical for a sex scene. they used to do this in old hollywood with dancing (sex) and smoking (fellatio). in 2025, it might seem a tad tame. and possibly disrespectful to the queer arc itself. why hide gay sex unless you, or your audience, would be repulsed?
or perhaps its because you the viewer feel shame and some accidental internalised homophobia at the idea of seeing gay sex, so you stop with a kiss?
which leads me to my second thought.
internalised homophobia is still very much a thing for people of all orientations even if they are openly queer/an ally/love gay stories. there is some leftover prejudice that probably wont be gone until well into the future, when gay love is a fully integrated part of society. as much as it might seem disrespectful to the queer community, i want to say as kindly as possible that i love to see gay stories in this transitional era we are living in: an era when they are still controversial. its thrilling to watch the excitement and forbidden-ness that still, unfortunately, exists for a gay love story. taboo makes for excellent and groundbreaking storytelling, because it creates conflict in the viewer as well as between characters.
back in the day, class divide (upstairs downstairs) was the go-to taboo in love stories, followed by racial divides (such as save the last dance from the early 2000s). nowadays, stories with interracial couples can still be controversial, but the prejudice is rightfully fading.
less progress has been made with gay stories yet.
so this is interesting for lumax isnt it? why did anon choose this couple and not dustin and suzie as a comparison? or even mike and el? and its extra interesting because lumax are an interracial couple in the 80s, so a compelling story about their place in society COULD have been elaborated on what with billy in s2, and that could have led to a sexuality arc. i mean, it still could.
and my third point is that a natural human response to seeing sex/sex on tv/simualted sex/fictional sex bla bla bla, is arousal. just as a happy scene hopes to make you laugh, a sex scene has to acknowledge that it may well arouse an audience as well as make them feel other things for the characters like joy, relief, satisfaction, comeuppance, justice, and a sense of peace. the question is how the duffers might frame a mike and will sex scene: there are lots of options. it probably would be sweet, romantic, a little awkward. the aim for the audience would be relief, joy, a sense of justice and happiness for these characters moreso than titillation. this would be a way to do a cool sex scene that speaks of coming of age rather than the male gaze or american pie style shock factor.
i also think a part of it is how the actors appear and how their characters appear in the show. for example, lucas is steadfast and strong, a fighter. it wouldnt be totally odd to see him in a sexual light, like it would for someone like murray.
meanwhile max's story is taking her to a place of deep vulnerability, so at the moment sex only seems appropriate as a way for her and lucas to physically communicate their love to each other. communication has been part of their arcs with the letters, and 'im right here' is a statement about physicality as well as emotionality.
dont you think these two character descriptions sound similar to mike and will? a fighter, and a vulnerable character? miscommunications?
max had a fantastic arc that explored her mental health, and it involved lies, but she didn't have any sexuality associations. lucas was associated with sexual imagery a lot more obviously than dustin even, with the 69 sign and the things under his bed.
but mike and will have both been associated with blatant sexual imagery - mike moreso than will independently, unless you count the metaphorical monster stuff - and their story at the moment is also partly about unrequited (paha) love and sexuality. of course they could resolve this arc with just a kiss, but that would not stop the implication that more will happen off screen.
it would instead simply look like a clipped story, cut short for coy censoring purposes rather than storytelling ones, to appease an audience who may be repulsed not only by a gay love story with sex, but by these two particular characters (and by extension, actors) portraying it.
the most important thing is that every scene serves the story. if the duffers think that us seeing mike and will get jiggy with it (sorry, im tired), then we will see it. so if you can think of any good reasons why it might add something to the story to see this, then there is a good chance we will see it.
the only question to ask yourself after that is... even if it would add something to the story to see mike and will have sex, would i still be uncomfortable with that? and why?
i wouldnt be uncomfortable - it should happen and i want to see it
it needs to happen for the story, and i am both uncomfortable and also excited, its a weird mix
it needs to happen for the story but i am still uncomfortable, because of not wanting to see these actors despite the fact they will be grown
it needs to happen for the story but i am still uncomfortable, due to some leftover internalised homophobia which i still unfortunately have (no shade! we all do sometimes)
i really dont think it needs to happen for the story - a kiss would tell us everything we needed to know, the audience can piece it together, but i wouldnt be uncomfortable seeing it
it doesnt need to happen for the story, and im glad of that because i would be uncomfortable seeing these actors despite the fact they will be grown
it doesnt need to happen for the story, and im glad of that because i would feel uncomfortable due to some leftover internalised homophobia
i am uncomfortable for other reasons like not enjoying watching sex on screen
i am uncomfortable because i think the actors would be uncomfortable performing it
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chaosgremlinmunson · 2 months
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STWG prompt: Birthday party
Pairings: Lumax and Henderhop
Jane and Dustin woke up slowly that morning, Dustin turned to Jane a smile on his face as he took in her halo of curls on the pillow, her face still lax with sleep and leaned in to steal a kiss on her forehead.
“Mmm, good morning.” She mumbled, her arms wrapping around his neck and pulling him down to kiss again.
“Good morning, Angel. Happy birthday, my beautiful wife.” He kissed the tip of her nose before pulling her from bed with him, “The party is coming by in a few. They wanted to celebrate with us before baby Max was born.”
Jane reached her hand down cradling her prominent bump, and smiled, “We still have to tell Max that we're naming our daughter after her.”
“Who do you think is going to be most excited, Lucas or Max?” Dustin mumbled around his toothbrush.
“Not sure, babe, I need help.” Jane said pouting at her pants she couldn't bend to get on her legs, “Maxie is making it impossible to dress myself. Maybe I should just wear my dress, but I want pants!”
Dustin walked up behind her and cradled her bump kissing her neck and shoulders, and lifted her bump for a moment to alleviate some of her back pain. She sank back into him, and sighed. After a few moments he helped her dress, pressed kisses to her stomach and smiled up at her. The doorbell sounded out in the silence, and Dustin stood hooking his arm around Jane and helping her to the couch where her pregnancy nest was set up. Giant pillows, and fuzzy blankets all making a cocoon for her so he had prime comfort while her husband flitted around to help her with anything she needed.
He opened the door to greet all of their friends and laughed when all he saw of Max was her red hair over a massive pile of gifts in her arms, Lucas beside her with bags of food in one hand and a cake in the other. Max rushed into the house setting her hoard onto the kitchen table before coming over to where Jane was sitting curling up next to her.
“How's my favorite person, and my baby doing?” Max asked leaning in to hug Jane who giggled her hand landing on her bump again.
“We're doing great. Maxie here is sassy as can be already, just like her auntie.” Max's eyes widened and then she broke into a grin.
“You named her after me?” She whispered, her hand also cradling Jane's bump as her eyes got misty.
“Who better than the girl who fought the devil and survived?” Dustin responded as they walked into the living taking the arm chairs across from the loves of their lives.
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