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HEXACO Analysis: Nakahara Chuuya

HEXACO score: 3.75/2.5/3/2.5/3.75/3.5

Highest trait: Honesty-Humility/Conscientiousness

Lowest trait: Emotionality/Agreeableness

Full order: (HC)OX(EA)

Extreme high subtraits (score 5): Sincerity, Fairness and Diligence

Extreme low subtraits (score 1): Fearfulness

(I have been agonizing over this for literally a month so I have decided to just post it how it is because I'm never going to be satisfied with it anyways.)

Port Mafia executive, former leader of The Sheep, one half of the fearsome Double Black, loyal to a fault, wants a puppy. Gotta love this dude. I'm always excited to do any meta on him because there's so much to his character. Now, much of the fanon interpretation of Chuuya differs from my perception of canon, so if you're a bit surprised by any of the rankings, read on to find out why!

Please do keep in mind: a lot of the info we have for Chuuya does not come from the main manga but from his backstory novels Fifteen and Stormbringer. While these two books have made him an incredibly fleshed-out character, we don't have much info on him at 22 years old except in brief scenes in the manga, omake, and official non-canon content like wan, mayoi and some character q&as. The good thing is that HEXACO traits tend to be relatively consistent over time (and Chuuya himself doesn't seem to have changed too much) so I don't think this will be a major issue.

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*Note: I tend to be reluctant to give extreme scores unless I really can't find much opposing evidence. As such, most of my scores tend to be 2s, 3s, or 4s.

**Note: Since these are scores that require me to pick a clear ranking, it's difficult to be quite as nuanced in my discussions as I prefer to be. These are intended to be general trends and there will likely always be exceptions - if you don't agree, that's fine, and it's probably just due to differences in subjective interpretation. However, if I've referenced something incorrectly, feel free to notify me; just be polite please!

***Final note: This is a long post! I go through 24 subtraits! You have been warned!

Explanations under the cut:

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Honesty-Humility (H)

Subtrait 1: Sincerity - A tendency to be genuine in interpersonal relations.

1 = Manipulative and rarely honest.

5 = Honest to a fault and almost never lies.

While Chuuya is capable of trickery, he doesn't do this very often - he's generally a very honest person who says what he means and doesn't beat around the bush. He faces his problems head on, and due to his immensely strong ability, he's likely never needed to do otherwise. Any lies he engages in are from my recollection either someone else's idea (Dazai, Mori) or to buy time (in Stormbringer). Even then, he doesn't really keep up an act for long - think of the confrontation with the ADA in the Guild arc where he pretty much outright states what the Mafia's game is. He's entirely nonchalant about it. He's not the kind of guy you send for subterfuge or deception.

Moreover, I cannot think of a time he used lies to get what he, personally, wanted. He's a very straightforward person. He has a sort of "I am who I am" kind of mentality and this shows in his words and actions.

Having said that, there are certain times he seems to blindside himself - as an example, the nature of his complicated dynamic with Dazai. While his irritation with him and negative feelings are genuine in part, there's a lot more nuance to it than that - worry, trust, begrudging understanding, unfortunate and unwilling recognition of self through the other, etc., but he boils it down to "hate". So, Chuuya does occasionally appear to tell himself convenient partial truths to avoid digging into things that make him uncomfortable. However, this honesty scale is about interpersonal honesty, and these instances are rare to my recollection, so he gets a very high score here.

Score = 5

Subtrait 2: Fairness - A tendency to avoid fraud and corruption for personal gain.

1 = Willing to cheat and steal to get what they want.

5 = Unwilling to take advantage of others.

This is tricky... he's in the mafia which is kind of all about this sort of thing, and he performs his job very well. Even so, Chuuya actually seems to have a pretty ingrained sense of fairness, to the point where I don't think it's really a conscious thing. He advances through the ranks of the mafia rapidly by... doing his job properly. He trades honesty for honesty, answers for answers, even in the middle of a fight - see his interactions with Rimbaud for more of what I mean. He repays people's favours and has a strong sense of loyalty and responsibility. Brushing off an ally's death as a means to get ahead is repulsive to him (DHC Dead Apple prologue). He outright tells a GSS soldier in Fifteen what's going to happen to him if he shoots at Chuuya. He does what he says he will, for the most part (unless this has to do with retribution, in which sometimes, rarely, exceptions will be made... I'll bring this up again later). Again, this is probably not mere kindness but also a result of his powerful ability meaning he's never really needed to rely on unscrupulous methods. Nonetheless, for what we see of him, I can't think of a time where he screws others over outside of orders from Mori - much less for his own benefit.

(A case could be made for a drop to 4 if you include his willingness to engage in mafia activities at all. I, personally, wouldn't since being a part of an illegal organization is literally all he's ever known from age 7 onwards. That's not really a character choice imo and more to do with the context he was raised in that became his "normal".)

Score = 5

Subtrait 3: Greed Avoidance - A tendency to be uninterested in possessing lavish wealth, luxury goods and signs of status.

1 = Want to enjoy and display wealth and status.

5 = Hardly driven by material gain.

Again, kind of tricky. Chuuya's introduced in quite possibly one of the most ostentatious outfits of the series (definitely up until that point, at least). He has his expensive wine collection and I think it is implied he has some expensive tastes. I think of that bit in Wan where he says he'll drop any money if he likes the thing he's looking to buy enough. Thing is... we get a little bit in Stormbringer where Chuuya's place is near totally empty; devoid of signs of having been "lived in" and tells us that money and status don't mean much to him. Mind you, this was when he was 16 and things likely changed since then; he's no longer only driven by his goal of finding info on himself and has acclimated to his new home in a sense. Truthfully, though, we don't know all that much about 22-year-old Chuuya. From my interpretation, I think his enjoyment of fancy things like wine and nice clothes is less a drive or motive to acquire any of these things, and more that he gets them as a bonus. He grew up on the streets. He has money now; he might as well use it to get himself something nice. Honestly, I swayed back and forth on this subtrait the most... but eventually settled on a score of 2 (that wine collection is... pretty damn expensive). I think he likes to treat himself. (I am now thinking of Chuuya's excitement over his new pillow in Wan...)

(I'd actually say Chuuya's focus on his appearance has a lot more to do with the image he hopes to give off to others than any true interest in material gain, but more on that later.)

Score: 2

Subtrait 4: Modesty - A tendency to be modest and unassuming (note that this has nothing to do with self-confidence!).

1 = Consider themselves superior and entitled to special treatment.

5 = Consider themselves ordinary people with no claim to special treatment.

Ohhhkay, this is a really weird one. Chuuya is so not modest. He knows damn well how powerful he is and is not afraid to flaunt his ability and martial arts prowess. He's cocky, arrogant and completely self-assured in a fight. However... he also has this weird humility where everything he does is in service to his people. He doesn't ask for special treatment, in fact, it may even make him uncomfortable, at least in Fifteen (dislike of being called "king") and Stormbringer (balking at Adam's "Chuuya-sama" addressal and trying to get him to change it). He goes by first name basis with most everyone and while he expects respect from his subordinates, he's not above spending time with them and doesn't treat people as beneath him unless they're his enemies. From Stormbringer, we know that Chuuya being so much more powerful actually isolates and upsets him. He also rarely takes a lot of credit for things; I think about his reaction in the ending scene in Dead Apple where he brushes off praise from his boss for fighting the dragon, saying he was just doing his job. Most anything he does is brushed off in a similar manner. It's just what he does; it's his duty - what he thinks he should do for his people. See? Weird humility.

I can't rank him too low or too high on this trait - this is one subscale where Chuuya's contradictory nature starts to show, I think.

Score = 3

H Score Total = (5+5+2+3)/4 = 3.75

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Emotionality (E)

Subtrait 1: Fearfulness - A tendency to easily experience fear.

1 = Have little fear; tend to be tough and insensitive to physical pain.

5 = Strongly inclined to feel fear and avoid physical harm.

There's not much to say about this. This guy goes through so much pain; gets thrown into buildings, shocked, stabbed and just gets back up. He jumps out of a plane to fight a dragon with zero hesitation. He feels bored in most fights and itches for a real challenge. He's near completely fearless lmao.

Score = 1

Subtrait 2: Anxiety - A tendency to worry over future outcomes.

1 = Feel little stress in response to hardship and difficulties.

5 = Tend to become preoccupied even by minor problems.

I believe Chuuya has a rather standard level of anxiety. I just said he's pretty much fearless, which he is, but he can and does worry, else he would not show concern for others in the way that he does. I think about his clear worry for the captured Sheep members in Fifteen, or him trying to contact Dazai in Stormbringer, or the way his concern over the outcome of the Cannibalism virus led to him attacking the ADA even though he knew that's what their mutual enemy wanted. At the same time, he doesn't spend too much time fretting over things if he can help it.

Score = 3

Subtrait 3: Dependence - A tendency to require emotional support from others.

1 = Feel self-assured and able to cope without help or advice.

5 = Crave encouragement and support when sharing difficulties.

While I think Chuuya could benefit from some supportive friends who don't die on him ( :'( ), I don't think he necessarily needs a lot of emotional support. He's pretty used to toughing it out alone and he's good at it. He's very self-reliant. However, he does ask for advice on occasion (from Mori), he does like to be part of a group (though that's more about other people depending on him...) and he's genuinely touched when people do show a want to support him (the Flags, Adam). He's not too good at receiving said support though lol.

He deserves more than he gets imo, but this scale is about whether he needs it or not, and to me, the answer is very rarely. Chuuya can deal with anything, however much or long he needs to. The real question is should he have to?

Score = 2

Subtrait 4: Sentimentality - A tendency to feel strong emotional bonds with others.

1 = Feel little emotion when parting or in reaction to others' concerns.

5 = Feel strong attachment to others and have an empathic sensitivity.

Bonds with others are literally Chuuya's Reason Living. Like, he practically says as much in Stormbringer and loyalty and protectiveness are two of his core character traits. Nearly everything he does is for the people he decides are his family. And even though he tends to lose people time and time again, he still manages to care and value them in spite of it all. The only reason he does not rank a full 5 is because he's hardly empathic or sensitive, but his emotions and loyalties run deep and comprise a good chunk of his identity.

Score = 4

E Score Total = (1+3+2+4)/4 = 2.5

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eXtraversion (X)

Subtrait 1: Social Self-Esteem - A tendency to have positive self-regard in social contexts.

1 = Tend to see self as unpopular and have a sense of worthlessness.

5 = Consider themselves to have likeable qualities and are satisfied with who they are.

Hm. I wonder about this one. We've already established that Chuuya is very confident but that's mostly in a fight or when asserting his strength. When it comes to social interactions outside of this context, it's clear that he gets very easily self-conscious. Think of Ranpo calling him "fancy-hat" - he reaches up to touch his hat like he's unsure if it's a compliment or an insult. There's Dazai's commenting on his shoes, first happy and then extremely irritated when the other... shoe drops (I'm sorry). Comments on his clothes, stature and anything to do with his history (the latter especially when he was younger) make him defensive and prone to bursts of irritation - he's very confident up until someone says something that makes him self-conscious. This probably has a lot to do with his former insecurities about his inhumanity; while he knows now that he is human, that feeling of otherness isn't just going to go away. Of particular note is Chuuya's dress sense - I made a note of this earlier that it seems he dresses to give off a particular image, namely, his membership to a group and status as their ultimate weapon (he both blends in and strikingly stands out). I'm not the only one who's noticed how he has a lot of outfit changes throughout the series, and how they seem to match whichever group he's a part of at the time - so, to insult the way he dresses seems to be taken as a personal jab to the image he's built up, an image that keeps him secure in his membership with his people (membership we know Chuuya desires from Stormbringer). If simple poking at the surface level of his self-image is enough for him to get so defensive, that doesn't really bode well for his social self-esteem as a whole.

At the same time, Chuuya does possess a lot of self-confidence and a certain level of self-respect. His reaction to Kenji thinking he's cool is definitely unabashed pride. He likely knows and enjoys his respected reputation in the mafia - but again, this is towards his ability and prowess, not necessarily his person. He responds to care for his person often with confusion and, again, defensiveness. I feel like he's about average in social self-esteem honestly, as his reactions tend to be quite polarized. It really depends on the context and what's being judged.

Score = 3

Subtrait 2: Social Boldness - A tendency to be comfortable/confident in social situations.

1 = Tend to feel shy or awkward when speaking to others.

5 = Willing to approach strangers and speak up.

Yeah Chuuya has no issue talking to people. I wouldn't actually call him social (more on that in the next subtrait) but he's clearly anything but shy. Only reason he doesn't rank a 5 is because he approaches people much more on orders or necessity than genuine willingness.

Score = 4

Subtrait 3: Sociability - A tendency to enjoy conversation and social interaction.

1 = Generally prefer solitary activities and rarely seek out conversation.

5 = Enjoy talking, visiting and celebrating with others.

I know there's a tendency to want to pin Chuuya as being a social person from his loudness, stand-out design, and the fact that we do see him drinking with Kajii and Hirotsu outside of work but truthfully? I think there's a lot more reason to think he's not all that sociable. For one, he is extremely guarded in both Fifteen and Stormbringer which makes a lot of sense - Chuuya has always been singled out as the biggest threat in the room, which means in turn that he has no choice but to perceive most people as potential threats in turn. In Fifteen, he really only talks to people out of necessity or in a fight, but he's not hanging out - of course he isn't, none of the people in that novel treated him like a friend. In Stormbringer, it takes an age for him to relax around the Flags and even then, he's not exactly the most conversational. Okay, you might be saying, but that's him when he's younger and fresh to the idea of having friends who don't ask him for anything in return.

It's tricky, again, because we really don't have much on older Chuuya. He apparently drinks with Hirotsu and Kajii. However, we don't know if he went there with them, or whether they just all happened to be going to the same place and he started venting to them. In the scene with him, Mori and Kouyou, he brings the wine, and then... he's not even really involved in that conversation, mostly just listening (and later cursing out Dazai under his breath lol). Also, a lot of the supplemental materials - drama cds, character q&as, even in Mayoi - seem to imply that he prefers to spend his time going and doing things by himself. There's also a few interesting continuities in Mayoi (which I know is a little... sus for canon info but like I said, we really don't have much and this next point is actually fairly consistent, leading me to believe this is intended to be an actual characterization point). In a lot of his dialogue and the summaries for some of the special events, he is described as "hanging back a bit". He often seems to choose to enjoy the atmosphere instead of talk to anyone, or else he's watching for threats. He almost always seems to be tense except in two conditions: one, he knows the place and the people are safe, and two, he gets to relax and sit back without speaking much. All this seems to indicate he actually very much enjoys time alone or at least time not spent speaking to people. Even when he's at a louder location, he is far more interested in the alcohol haha.

Score = 2

Subtrait 4: Liveliness - A tendency to be enthusiastic, active and upbeat.

1 = Tend not to feel optimistic or dynamic.

5 = Usually optimists and often in high spirits.

I don't know if I'd call Chuuya an optimist, per se. I think he's actually quite jaded. However, he generally has the attitude that he can get through most things and he gets quite into the action - he loves a good fight, he likes doing stunts on his motorcycle, he feels his feelings very strongly. He's not "a ray of sunshine" hehe but he's definitely dynamic and active - I think he'd get quite bored if he had nothing to do. I'd say he's about average.

Score = 3

X Score Total = (3+4+2+3)/4 = 3

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Agreeableness (A)

Subtrait 1: Forgivingness - A tendency to feel trust and liking towards those who previously caused harm.

1 = Tend to hold a grudge.

5 = Usually ready to trust again after being treated poorly.

Hm. Again, this is another place where Chuuya's contradictory nature seems to show. Chuuya's whole mentality is if you try to hurt him or his people, he tries to hurt you back. It's very deliberate that in Fifteen he often kills by ricocheting bullets back at the people who fired at him. It's very retributive; definitely a "get-even" mentality. He immediately goes on a revenge mission against Verlaine for the Flags' sake. He remains furious at Dazai for years (but that's a constant lmao). However, he also has this strange capacity to... stop feeling that same level of raw anger, and it seems to occur when he comes to understand said person as a human being, especially if he can relate somehow. Also, something that is outright stated in Stormbringer is that Chuuya has the unfortunate tendency to help people who have helped him, even if they wind up betraying him in the end. I don't know if I'd call any of this true forgiveness (I think it ties in more with his ingrained sense of fairness and responsibility) but at the very least, he doesn't seem to hold grudges against people he comes to know for long except Dazai, and even then, he still trusts Dazai implicitly. He doesn't give his trust easily, but by god when he does, it's hard to break. I'm not entirely convinced of this myself, but I gave him a neutral score.

Score = 3

Subtrait 2: Gentleness - A tendency to be lenient in judgements of others.

1 = Tend to be critical when evaluating others.

5 = Reluctant to openly judge others harshly.

...He openly tells opponents they're weak to their faces. He's sooo not gentle and he's only really nice to his allies (and Kenji...but he has very little choice in that matter because Kenji decided they are friends). I think he's the kind of person who's blunt, but not always to be a jerk. Actually, he's fairly attuned to giving advice to people (see: drama cds) but he sure doesn't sugar-coat it. He says what he means. There's also his manner of speaking, which is considered quite vulgar. He's saved from the lowest score because, as I said, he does offer advice and encouragement without much prompting and rarely is he a complete jerk for no reason (unless you're counting bully preschool Chuuya from Wan hahaha). He also seems to have a soft spot for animals, especially dogs. Does that count? I think that counts.

Score = 2

Subtrait 3: Flexibility - A tendency to compromise and cooperate with others.

1 = Stubborn and quick to argue.

5 = Accommodate others' suggestions, even if they may be unreasonable.

I think he's fairly amenable to other ideas actually, but it depends on their source. There's an omake where Kouyou has to call him out because he's indulging Mori and his spontaneous whims too much in their planning. He goes along with the dumb shenanigans the Flags and his subordinates get into, with some griping, but it's clear he doesn't really mind. He's a lot more resistant to Dazai, of course, but again, he will go along with most things in the end because he knows that Dazai's plans do not fail. Still, he rarely just takes other's ideas without putting up a little bit of resistance first (unless it's a direct order), and he doesn't seem to work with others except Dazai (and he does not cooperate with him in any way approaching an agreeable manner, despite being completely in sync). I put him as neutral. He seems to need to see the sense in most things or else see some benefit to others (which might just be said others' enjoyment... the rich girl scene anyone?) before he'll actually do something that wasn't his idea.

Score = 3

Subtrait 4: Patience - A tendency to remain calm rather than become angry.

1 = Tend to lose their temper quickly.

5 = Have a high threshold for expressing anger.

...Lmao. I'm so sorry, buddy. If something is annoying to Chuuya, he will react (it might not be a dramatic reaction but it still manifests as at least visible irritation). He is more than capable of repressing his anger and acting more mature and serious when the situation calls for it but... it really does not take much to rile him up, especially if said annoyance humiliates or embarrasses him in some way. That said, he can and will remain stoic in the face of people who rely on him. Saved from the lowest score by a thread.

Score = 2

A Score Total = (3+2+3+2)/4 = 2.5

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Conscientiousness (C)

Subtrait 1: Organization - A tendency to seek order in surroundings.

1 = Tend to be sloppy and haphazard.

5 = Tend to keep things tidy and prefer structure.

There's not much in the series that really indicates what Chuuya is like in his own space. The closest we get is in Stormbringer, where he has very few belongings - but these are stated to be kept very neatly. He appears to spend a good deal of time making himself presentable and it makes sense that this would extend to the space around him as well. Chuuya is likely to be a pretty organized person - he's seen going over a list in an omake and planning out a schedule, and he's good at staying on task - honestly a rarity with characters in this series. While I wouldn't expect him to be quite as fastidious as, say, Kunikida, the little evidence we have seems to indicate he keeps things pretty organized.

Score = 4

Subtrait 2: Diligence - A tendency to work hard.

1 = Have little self-discipline and are not strongly achievement motivated.

5 = Have a strong work ethic and are willing to exert themselves.

Um, yeah, absolutely he's high in this trait. He considers protection of his people his duty and responsibility - it's of prime importance to him and he shoulders a lot of blame should he fail. He brushes off absurd feats such as facing off against Guivre in Stormbringer and fighting the dragon in Dead Apple with a view that can essentially be boiled down to "it's what I'm supposed to do". He clearly expects 100% from himself. He's very diligent. It's a product of his loyalty crossed with his "I can handle anything" mentality.

Score = 5

Subtrait 3: Perfectionism - A tendency to be thorough and concerned with details.

1 = Tolerate some errors and tend to neglect details.

5 = Check carefully for mistakes and improvements.

Tying in with the above, there's not a lot of conclusive examples I can point to, but as he expects full effort from himself and isn't really tolerant of his own failure, I would say this trait is high by necessity. The suits he keeps in Stormbringer are also kept spotless. I can't give a 5, because I don't think he's a perfectionist, per se, but he does rise to meet challenges and that necessitates improvement. He's the best martial artist in the Port Mafia for a reason.

Score = 4

Subtrait 4: Prudence - A tendency to deliberate carefully and inhibit impulses.

1 = Act on impulse and tend not to consider consequences.

5 = Consider options carefully and tend to be cautious/self-controlled.

...ok. So, he definitely prefers to jump into things headfirst. He solves many of his problems with actions and generally more violent ones. However - he can and does look at situations in a much more nuanced way than people give him credit for. He knows how to negotiate, for one - that's part of what Kouyou trained him on in the first place. For another, even when he does rush into a fight, the Dead Apple novelization has this brilliant passage where you see that he's incredibly observant in the midst of the action - and really, he'd have to be. Gravity manipulation is not telekinesis - there's a lot more to consider in terms of force and resistance than just "pick up/throw object". To be noted though is that much of this quick thought happens within a situation - he's adaptable in the moment but he's not really a pre-planner. His way of dealing with things kind of necessitates him jumping into a situation and working through things as they come. So, his score would still be low here, but not the lowest.

Score = 2

C Score Total = (4+5+4+2)/4 = 3.75

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Openness (O)

Subtrait 1: Aesthetic Appreciation - A tendency to find enjoyment in beauty found in art and nature.

1 = Not overly interested in works of art or natural wonder.

5 = Have a strong appreciation for various art forms and nature.

I'll be honest, there's not a lot of instances in canon to support or refute this subtrait. We do know that he likes nice clothes and hats though, so that supports some level of aesthetic appreciation. He also is shown humming in the manga, and one of his likes on his character profile is music. In other official material, such as character interviews, he seems to enjoy going for drives to look at the sunrise or sunset from a nice view or enjoying fresh snow falling from the sky. A few of his Mayoi quotes also support this, as he seems to enjoy the ambiance of wind chimes and festivities from a distance - though in one of them he sounds a bit like a tsundere ("the hydrangeas make for an exquisite sight... I suppose") lol.

So, while there isn't a lot, I think there's decent support for a high score here. I can't really see him at an art gallery per se, but he definitely has an aesthetic sense and likely an appreciation for natural beauty as well.

Score = 4

Subtrait 2: Inquisitiveness - A tendency to seek information about and experience the world.

1 = Have little curiosity and are content with what they know.

5 = Seek out new information constantly and love new experiences.

I'm not sure there's much evidence here either. I don't think Chuuya is closed-off to learning new things, as he does teach himself new skills and seems to pick things up fairly quickly. I've already commented on how he's pretty adaptable, especially in the moment. However, I don't think he's the type to go beyond and actively seek out new knowledge that isn't directly applicable to what he needs to know. The knowledge we see Chuuya acquire throughout the series is more practical stuff, stuff he can put to use in some way (ex. martial arts skills). His worldview also remains rather limited - he has only ever known life as an important figure in a criminal organization. He has literally known nothing else. And he doesn't seem to mind this so much; I suspect because, as Stormbringer tells us, he doesn't feel particularly deserving of examining anything different. There's also the matter of his intense loyalty to his people, which means that he has little incentive to look elsewhere. At the same time, he certainly likes to experience things in a more literal sense - he tries different wines, wears different outfits, and is incredibly engaged in action. I'll give him a average score.

Score = 3

Subtrait 3: Creativity - A tendency to innovate and experiment.

1 = Tend to stick to familiar patterns and methods with little change.

5 = Actively seek new solutions to problems and tend to self-express.

Chuuya, I would say, is a lot more straightforward than he is innovative. While, as I've mentioned multiple times by now, he adapts quickly in a fight, his go-to is still... to fight. He deals with things very much head-on, and again, he's not really a pre-planner. In the moment, however, he's incredible at reading a situation and responding near instantly to new threats. As for self-expression, I'd venture to say that Chuuya's actually pretty repressed. He has a distinctive style and set of likes and dislikes, but he often seems to understate his excitement or interest in things - see the tsundere-ish comment above or really just look at how he tries to appear cooler and more put-together than he is in like... anything he shows up in. Dude is repressed, seriously. The only time we see him unabashedly enjoying himself is in high-adrenaline situations like fights - at the very least, in Fifteen, Dazai describes him as being somewhat "kid-ish" when he gets really into things. (You are one to talk, Dazai.)

I'll put him at a neutral score since I can't find too much supporting evidence either way.

Score = 3

Subtrait 4: Unconventionality - A tendency to accept the unusual.

1 = Avoid eccentric and non-conforming persons.

5 = Receptive to ideas that might seem strange or radical.

...you know, writing all this out, and as unusually powerful and contradictory as Chuuya is... he's kind of. The normal one. At least in comparison to a lot of the company he keeps. He tends to be the voice of reason or at least keeps somewhat of a level head in the drama cds which will never stop being amusing to me. Part of the reason he's good at this though is that he's really very accepting and kind of indifferent towards people's eccentricities, especially if he's known them for a while. He barely bats an eye at Kajii's maniacal experimentation, accommodates Mori's weirdness without so much as a reaction, and while he finds Adam incredibly strange (valid lmao) he seems to start to enjoy that after a time. He seems pretty willing to accept just about anyone's quirks the more he spends time around them and gets used to them.

When around Dazai in particular, he reveals himself to... also be very, very strange. The comparatively "normal guy" is quickly replaced with someone just as incredibly unhinged as Dazai himself. Argue however you like whether they make each other better or worse but they certainly do make each other weirder.

I wonder if being surrounded by so many odd people makes him feel slightly less odd by comparison. Something to consider.

At the same time, he's a little too grounded and practical to be given a full score of 5, so a 4 he is.

Score = 4

O Score Total = (4+3+3+4)/4 = 3.5

So, there you have it! Phew, this took a while. I hope you enjoyed it!

I'm working on another analysis for Mori (BSD) and for Seam (Deltarune). If anyone has any other characters they'd like to request, feel free to drop me an ask! I write at a snail's pace but it does eventually get done!

#bsd #bsd meta #hexaco analysis #personality analysis #bsd chuuya #bsd spoilers #storyrambles #i'm glad there's been mostly positive reception to my analyses so far because i cannot explain how terrified i am of being wrong in public #<- feel free to laugh at this as i am also laughing at myself #anyways. gonna post now. hope it's a fun read!#updated with extreme high and low subtraits in the summary #i think it gives it more of a personal touch :)

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NCT Birth Charts x Hexaco Results Analyses pt. 2

recently NCT Dream were on a new reality show called Mental Training Camp where they are doing a variety of activities and all of their behavior and interactions are being analyzed by professional psychologists.

ofc my virgo sun mercury ass was thrilled and I had their birth charts pulled up the whole time to cross reference.

I wanted to share some of my personal thoughts on how the 2 might connect!

p.s. Thank u for all the likes on part one !!<3

part 1 // part 2 // part 3

**key: in the hexaco charts the blue represents the Dreamies, the orange is an average result of 300 college students who took the same test**

Renjun - “An artist down to the bones”

✨aries sun // scorpio moon // pisces mercury // pisces venus // taurus mars✨

can i just start with a wow cause!! This title is so bold and what they continued to talk about with him, and when looking at his chart... there is much to unpack here so let’s get into it

they started off his analysis focusing on how much of an “artist” he is. They said 2 qualities a great artists needs is openness and emotionality and he scored way above average in those areas, and the highest of those in his whole group. Looking at his placements I think anyone could tell this person is highly creative. With his 2 pisces placements and water moon in scorpio. There’s a lot more going on with that moon sign than just creativity, but it is a common trait amongst water moons!

I feel like his water energy is responsible for more of his imagination? If you watch a lot of NCT content you can see just how imaginative Renjun is. Especially in the relay vlogs when he was taking us through his art all I could think was wow this guy has crazy (good) imagination! the reason I mention this is because he has a taurus mars. taurus is ruled by venus where we get a lot of our creativity from and it’s a known thing that taurus placements always bring natural creativity. I really think the combination of water imagination with taurus art is a beautiful combo.

On top of his natural talent in creativity and imagination, scorpio moons absolutely need an outlet. He was truly blessed with placements that give him that outlet <3 They mentioned he could be a poet and scorpio moons are always being recommended to write poetry. His art is essential to his mental and emotional health.

something really interesting is how they mentioned that mark has traditional leader energy, but Renjun has a “mother-like” leader energy. I thought that was so sweet and really accurate for him. They mentioned how throughout the intro he would scan the others eyes a lot and make contact very subconsciously and with ease. Taking everyone into account. I see this a lot in his 2 pisces placements. I feel like a lot of pisces makes someone very sensitive, in-tune with people and caring/compassionate. And with the slower, calmer taurus mars it gives him a gentle approach. He has this strong bull/ram influence from his aries sun and mars, his driving forces, that gives him initiative and a strong voice. when these 2 connect I feel like it makes a mom bear kind of thing.

They also said it seems when he scans like that he is almost analyzing and observing, “gathering opinions”. Scorpio moons have hawk eyes, they’re always observing micro-actions and reactions. He is mostly observing with care so he can pay attention and accommodate! But I think having a scorpio moon just makes him naturally tune in to people a lot more and gives him a sharper eye.

I wanted to put him and Jisung in the same post because they’re both scorpio moon kings, and I wanted to talk about how this really intense moon sign plays out in 2 very different people. I have a scorpio moon too, so seeing 2 idols I like with their own scorpios moons is very interesting to me!

at one point the psychologists verbal report took a turn and all i could think about was that scorpio moon! After they finished telling him about his artists traits, they said “there is one thing you should look out for”, and it was that people like him tend to get lonely easily and often/a lot and Renjun quickly agreed! They said that since he’s with good friends a lot, it helps, but in the future he could get very lonely and experience it more than the average person. This is so textbook scorpio moon I honestly felt like he was speaking right to me and my scorpio moon for a second. From one scorpio moon to another, I’m so glad he has people around him.

then they asked him when he typically gets lonely the most and he responded with “it just comes to be out of the blue” u poor scorpio moon bb😭. I don’t know how serious he was about this word but he said he will be depressed on the nicest days sometimes.

there was another story Mark was telling thin time about Renjun. They went out to a meal together on a beautiful day and Mark comments on how nice out it is and Renjun just responds with “I’m depressed”. There are so many traits of his scorpio moon coming through here. With the moon being in such an intense, deep and dark sign, it is in detriment here. It’s a really rough placement for your emotions. Water moons in general are known for being quite moody and sulky, sometimes it just comes out of nowhere and very randomly. There doesn’t always have to be a trigger. I feel like his pisces-scorpio are really like teaming up a lot when it comes to his expressions and emotions.

In the last post I mentioned how I think Jeno and Mark are lucky to have fire moons because they could get really hard on themselves or down/depressed if they had earth or water moons. Renjun is a good example of what I meant. With his Taurus mars, earth signs are known for being down and hard on themselves a lot and I think the combination of a earth mars and scorpio moon is tough. taurus likes to be alone a lot too and I could see him maybe in the future develop a tendency to isolate when he’s having a scorpio moon moment and feels like the world is ending (again, being around people must be really helping him). I also see his aries sun maybe being another way to help express that scorpio moon. It might feel less like he has to keep all of these scorpio feelings to himself, it’s easier for him to let it out. It’s also worth noting that having a scorpio moon and taurus mars means they’re in opposition! Giving him even more depth and intensity.

as for the hexaco chart, based off just his chart I don’t know if I would have guessed his openness was that high with his scorpio and taurus?? But other than that I think his hexaco is very spot on for him! His agreeableness is slightly below average👀 umm yes hi aries sun and fixed moon and mars. His extroversion is pretty much average but that average to me tells me someone is more on the extroverted side or maybe in the middle? Being in the middle would make sense to me because I think he definitely has potential to isolate. I’m curious to see what his houses are! I’ve seen a lot of talk that he’s a cancer rising and I buy it because it would put his sun in 10th, and moon in 5th but that’s a whole other topic...

That emotionality is wonderfully high. His openness and expression/ reactions are one of my favorite things about him. He’s truly a little aries hot head at times. I feel like aries in big 6 often gives this kind of ease with expression and straightforwardness like I was saying about mark. Similar to Chenle though, I think even though Renjun is open, he isn’t an open book and has his deep thoughts and secrets. I see his openness more in that he will always be there for people and listen/help peoples problems. He’s the kind of person to meet someone and if he can tell they’re struggling he’d offer his ear or shoulder even if they’re not close. He’s welcoming.

tldr; has intense imagination and creative abilities, he is very welcoming, compassionate, attentive and caring. Mom vibes. He is very moody and gets down a lot, his friends and artistic expression are essential. He is very expressive, passionate and hot headed but has a lot of patience.

Jisung - “Shy Perfectionist”

✨aquarius sun // scorpio moon // aquarius mercury // aquarius venus // aries mars✨

Jisungs section in this show was reallyyy short they didn’t say much and moved on kinda quick😅 I’ll be honest Jisung has always kinda confused me especially when I try to understand his chart and what i see in the videos. So not getting a lot of information from this episode either (yet! the show is ongoing) is tough

As far as the title they gave him🥺chart or no chart I think it’s a good title for him and how he appears in content and stuff he is true baby. In their verbal report they basically just said he’s shy and then talked a lot about how he has very good “follower” qualities. They were saying having a good follower is also a really important quality in a group though. And jisung agreed with what they were saying. That’s pretty much all we got from them😅

Honestly if I could only have one members guaranteed full chart I’d want it to be Jaemins or Jisungs because Jisung has an aquarius stellium! And the house it’s in could tell us so much more about him. Typically when I think of or meet aquarius I don’t pin them as a shy type? I could see some of them preferring to stick to themselves but they still operate pretty well in social situations. So Jisung’s painfully shy personality we see is interesting to me. Where I definitely do see his aqua and scorpio working together is in how anxious and nervous he is. He’s a worrier too and has admitted it. Also I’ve heard the combination of aquarius and scorpio makes someone intensely intuitive to future events, so I feel like if jisung is unaware of this gift it could contribute to his high anxiety. Maybe he gets feelings of “something bad is about to happen” a lot for seemingly no reason👀

Another very aquarius trait is of course they’re weirdooos through and through! And what I’ve noticed about the aquarius weird trait is how many different kinds of weird there are because aquarians are always weird in such different ways. I definitely think Jisung is a weird guy, or quirky? You can almost see the gears grinding in his head when he’s contemplating and then he’ll do something “weird” after that! Weird, or just off beat. And what I love about the way jisungs lil aquarius mind works is you can tell those weird moments are purely just how he really is and thinks, and it’s not to be funny or for the cameras, he just processes information and thinks completely different from everyone else.

Since we know jisung is shy I feel like a lot of his aquarius and scorpio mood comes out off camera so we won’t get to see that side! But I’m sure it’s there.

I think Jisung’s scorpio moon is a good example of how different it can be. To go from a very emotionally charged chart to one that is being dominated by air is quite different. With Renjun, I was talking about how his water and fire give him the ability to be in touch with and express his scorpio moon more. But with an air dominant chart I feel like hinders that ability and creates a more detached person. Not that he’s cold, not emotional, or not compassionate. But just that he probably prefers to “just not think” about certain stressful or emotional topics. But the problem with that is it doesn’t mean emotions are gone and scorpio is very hard to ignore, so he’s probably internalizing a lot of stuff v deeply or is surprised when emotions come, what feels like, out of nowhere,.. Jisung also has an aries mars though! I feel like the openness of the aries mars combining with the detachment of Aquarius sun could also contribute to sudden releases of emotion🤔 but be back to normal in minutes

I also wanna add that I feel like jisungs very follower personality and ability to just kinda let things happen or not take charge must be a result of the industry and being the maknae tbh, or it at least accentuated it

For the hexaco chart I really want to comment on how high the honesty-humility is! In the first part I mentioned how aquarius and aries can be quite righteous signs. So this trait must be really played up in his chart because it seems he cares a lot about following the rules (could also be a result of industry). His emotionality is higher than average! For his chart I don’t know if I would have expected that but from watching him I think it totally lines up, maybe his aries mars is proving more of an outlet.

I also wanna finish by adding that jisung is still super young and has been in this “baby” position for most of his life, and is literally the youngest out of a 23 person group lol and grew up in the industry so there’s more going on with that than just astrology <3

tldr; very shy, anxious and nervous, intuitive, an oddball, his community is important and helpful to him, easily reactive, but not very emotionally expressive, he’s level-headed, has a lot of growing to do🥺<3

part 3 coming soon!

feedback and thoughts are always welcome!

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mariesocuniverse · 3 years

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Mind Camp EP 3

In the beginning, Mae is sitting between Mark and Jeno, fixing the blanket the staff gave her

“What do you think is the Hexaco test, Mae?”

“Uh…. Does it have to do with a hexagon?

Mae stared in fascination as the psychologists spoke, listening to ever word they said

“Is psychology something interesting to you, Mae?”

“It sounds cool…” Mae said, rubbing the back of her neck, “I like taking these type of tests.”

Jaemin’s Results

“Optimistic My Way. He knows exactly what he likes, and get along with whoever has the same interests”

“Wah..that’s right!” Mae said excitedly, listening to the psychologists speak

you could see that Mae was getting more enthusiastic about the tests

“I picked #3 for all my answers.”

Mae snorted and moved to playfully slap Jaemin

“Why are you like this Mr. My Way?”

Mae was interested in Jaemin’s results, considering she always wanted to know what goes on in that brain of his

Mark’s Results

“Workaholic Leader”

Mae started laughing when Mark was told he had the personality of a corporate director in his 40s

“Honestly at SM, if you didn’t personally know Mark, you knew of him.” Mae said, recounting how, prior to meeting him, she head rumors about Mark being a star trainee and how hardworking he is

When the psychologists started tell Mark to pace things, Mae had a frown on her face, giving Mark a hug

“Mae seems upset?”

“I’m just worried with how much Mark works.”

Jeno’s results

“A scholar who gets hurt easily”

Mae hugged Jeno’s arm while he was getting his results for the test

“It’s not good to hold stuff in you fool.” She said, causing everyone to laugh

“Yah Jeno-yah, listen to Mae!” Haechan said jokingly, causing another round of laughter

When Jeno’s humor is brought up, Mae burst into giggles when Jeno says its uncomfortable when people say its funny

“It’s okay Jeno I’ll always laugh for you.”

Renjun’s Results

“An artist to the bones.”

Mae kept nodding to the psychologists’ description for Renjun, agreeing with all of it

“Our artist Renjunnie~” Mae said, pinching one of his cheeks before he slapped her hand out of his face

“Renjun and I stargaze sometimes, ”Mae say, when the topic of Renjun’s loneliness came up, “ He always looks like he’s in a daydream.”

Mae’s Results

“If Mark is the dad and Renjun is the mom, Mae would be the childish older sibling.”

Mae covered her face while the others agreed and laughed at the statement

“During the bag check, Mae helped Jisung with his bag when he needed to look through it. But with everyone else, she just joked around and played with the older members.”

“People like Mae, they like to joke around and have fun but when it comes time to be serious they know how to slow down and do whatever they can to help.”

Mae agreed with the results, saying that she likes taking care of people, but she always loves to mess around and play

Jisung included that, whenever it came to him and Chenle, Mae always made to sure make them comfortable since they’re the youngest

Renjun replied that it was favoritism, which Mae tried to deny but the smile on her face said otherwise

When the psychologists wanted to give her advice, Mae tilted her head

“If I have a word of advice, make sure to take care of yourself as well, instead of just helping others. It’s easy to forget when you’re busy with others but you’re important as well.”

Mae nodded her head as she listened, but didn’t say anything

Jisung’s Results

“Shy Perfectionist”

“He has a very good foundation of character.”

Mae tilted her head at Jisung and gave him a doubtful look, pretending to disagree

Mae has a soft gaze on Jisung as his analysis was given. She agreed with the fact that he was more of a follower than a leader.

Haechan’s Results

“Popular and ambitious”

“Wah here we go!” Mae said, making herself more comfortable in the seat

She pouted when the psychologist said that Haechan was his daughter’s favorite

“Haechan is really a special person.” Mae said after looking at his graph

Chenle’s Results

“Friendly Guardian”

Mae almost snorted when she saw the summary but didn’t disagree

She listened carefully to the description

“Chenle is someone anyone can get along with. He just has the energy of warmth.”

(A/N I did the hexaco test for Mae but the graph was made by @nct-nari and she is amazing)

#24th member of nct #nct 24th member #nct female oc #nct female addition #nct au #nct 127 female addition #nct 127 female member #nct dream female member #nct dream female addition #kpop female addition #nct addition

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ramrodd · 3 years

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Trump's Myers Briggs Personality Type EXPLAINED By Psychologist

COMMENTARY:

Combat requires a flow state: feedback, feed forward, feed through. That's the arena of Peak Performance. You are sampling at this task environment with your martial arts: the closer you come to reflecting your sensei's state of mind, the more SP you become. SJs are reactive, NFs are responsive and NTs are pro-active. I can only offer this humble observation from the perspective of a combat crazed Vietnam vet.

I'm not a fan of OCEAN/HEXACO trait theory, but I think you would prosper to abandon your Se/Si declinations: you are re-inventing the wheel.

I've been watching your "originalism" video. If any of the Fascists that have been appointed to SCOTUS since 1988 were sincere about "originalism" . Amy Conney Barrett would be litigating to repeal the 19th Amendment.

"Originalism" is an element of the Public Choice agenda of the crypto-Nazi wing of the GOP and Public Choice is a re=framed version of Jefferson Davis' State's Right theory of labor, property and the means of production embedded in the Tory Socialism the British colonialists brought over from John Locke's life, liberty, property that originated with the Magna Charta and are committed to re-impose on the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness Democratic Socialism at the core of The Declaration of Independence. Tory Socialism is the basis of the British class system. Tory Socialism in America is reflected in the conceit that Thomas Jefferson's property rights are superior to Sally Hemings' human rights. "Originalism" wants to restore that conceit into the operating definition of the US Constitution. "Citizens United" reflects that goal of the crypto-Nazi political agenda.

In in the original intent of the Framers, the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with personal firearms, but to create the constitutional authority in the various states to deal with insurgencies like Shay's Rebellion armed with personal firearms. The subtext of the 2nd Amendment is that all male citizens would submit to a term of military service in the manner of the Swiss in the 18th Century and Israel, currently. All the Framers were Patriots, many of whom actually served in the Continental Army, which is pre-cursor to the US Army, which is the republican guarantor of the US Constitution. My opinion of why the Scalia Fascist majority sustained Heller as the original intent of the US Constitution is because they are as ignorant of the role of the US military in the common defense as the Pope is about gynelocology: like Trump, it is all a video game to them.

There are 5 elements of the military staff: command, organization, mobilization, training and doctrine. The 2nd Amendment is a mechanism to ensure orderly mobilization into a constitutional organization which will supply the other elements.

It's useful to remember that Antonin Scalia. like Bill Barr, avoided military service during the Vietnam war. I was in ROTC from 1965 until 1969 and I was then, and remain, apolitical in an Eisenhower Republican kind of way. Like Christopher Hitchens, I was a military brat. I went to Vietnam as a professional soldier and he ended up flirting around the boutique terrorist groups in Europe like the Bader-Mainhoff Gang and the radical chic of the Upper East Side of Manhatten.

I was caught between anti-war, liberal draft dodgers like Sam Seder (if he had been alive at the time} and Pro-War, crypto-Nazi draft dodgers like Pat Buchanan, Rush Limdick and Tucker Carlson (if, likewise, he had been alive at the time). I didn't have much use for either side, but my sympathies, as a soldier and citizen, was with the civil rights agenda of Sam Seder and opposed to the bully-boy Fascism of white bigots like Tucker Carlson.

At a certain level, I admired the people like Sam Seder in the SDS because they went out into the streets expecting to get beat up by bigots like Tucker Carlson and Bill Barr. Sam Seder may represent part of the problem the progressive wing of the DNC has been plagued by since at least McGovern, but, in the final analysis, he's a mensch. In contrast, Tucker Carlson reflects the hyper-masculinity of the Proud Boy metrosexual.

I don't think I would have arrived at INTP. I assume that was indicated instrumentally. The IN-P is reflected in your high need to demonstrate your iNtuitive nature. If you are self-reporting, I suspect an instrument would indicate a strong F preferment in an ENFP arrangement.

Personally, I am a process theology guru from the "Be All You Can Be" tradition of Frank Burn's Task Force Δ and the First Earth Battalion. Like the MBTI, Process theology is an example of applied epistemolog and the US Constitution anticipates a grand working version of Kurt Lewin's Action Research as a capitalist tool.

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dipulb3 · 4 years

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Toilet paper hoarding linked to 'conscientious' personality | Foxton News

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Toilet paper hoarding linked to 'conscientious' personality | Foxton News

Within the early days of the pandemic, with bathroom paper almost inconceivable to seek out, there was a breakthrough second when — after a number of journeys to the shop — you scored a candy victory.

You lastly tracked down a roll of bathroom paper.

You walked to the again of the grocery retailer. You noticed one thing white glinting, virtually smiling at you. You broke right into a giddy almost-run, seemingly listening to a hovering film soundtrack as you glided towards that valuable commodity you took with no consideration for years, however have now grown to understand so very, very a lot.

You’ve got stayed up questioning about it, and now science is giving us new information into what drove the Nice Rest room Paper Scarcity of 2020.

Individuals who panic purchase and hoard bathroom paper rating excessive in persona evaluation for traits of “conscientiousness,” based on a brand new examine revealed within the open-access journal PLOS ONE.

“We did not have a principle in thoughts. We simply needed to discover the persona components at play,” mentioned examine coauthor Lisa Garbe, a doctoral scholar within the division of political science on the College of St. Gallen in Switzerland.

Whereas below lockdown as a visiting researcher in the UK, she hatched the concept for the examine with coauthor Theo Toppe, a doctoral scholar within the division of comparative cultural psychology on the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, they usually roped in coauthor Richard Rau, a analysis assistant within the psychology division at Germany’s College of Münster.

Evaluating shopping for habits with persona varieties

The three researchers surveyed 1,029 adults from 35 nations throughout the US and Europe. They requested questions on topics’ current bathroom paper buying through the peak of the coronavirus pandemic from March 23 to March 29.

Then they collected individuals’ responses on a persona evaluation known as the HEXACO Inventory.

Developed in 2000 by psychologists in Canada as a approach to map persona attributes throughout totally different cultures, the HEXACO Stock measures individuals’s traits in six broad domains: Honesty-Humility, Emotionality, Extraversion, Agreeableness, Conscientiousness and Openness to Expertise.

The stock makes use of “Conscientiousness” as an umbrella time period that covers traits comparable to group, diligence, perfectionism and prudence.

Individuals falling in that class have been those most certainly to self-report both hoarding or panic-buying bathroom paper. That is the good friend who likes to plan forward and overprepare. On this case, preparedness, rational or not, had the relative impact of ordering an in any other case disordered existence.

The ultimate a part of the examine requested respondents whether or not they felt threatened by coronavirus. Those that felt most threatened by Covid-19 have been the most certainly to hoard bathroom paper.

“That was crucial discovering within the examine,” Garbe mentioned. “”As soon as you’re feeling threatened by one thing, you begin behaving irrationally. That could be very human.”

Panic shopping for is contagious

In March, some corporations reported a 700% enhance in bathroom paper gross sales, and producers have been overwhelmed by the sudden demand. The center of the matter nonetheless stays a thriller.

On the time psychologists pointed to a number of underlying components explaining the phenomenon. For one factor, conflicting messages from nationwide and state officers can create an setting of hysteria. Panic shopping for can beget extra panic shopping for.

Now this examine presents some new empirical information backing up precisely who was driving the frenzy on bathroom paper.

“Individuals, being social creatures, we glance to one another for cues for what’s protected and what’s harmful,” scientific psychologist Steven Taylor mentioned again in March. He actually wrote the e book on the topic, “The Psychology of Pandemics.”

“Whenever you see somebody within the retailer, panic shopping for, that may trigger a concern contagion impact,” he famous.

The thriller stays

Given the underlying science about how Covid-19 spreads, the mad rush to seize hand sanitizer, cleansing merchandise, thermometers and masks makes excellent sense.

However why do different issues comparable to bathroom paper get caught within the crossfire? Garbe and her workforce cannot level to the precise motive. Although it is irrational, we will level to rational causes for what drives outbreaks of irrational conduct.

“Until individuals have seen … official guarantees that everybody will probably be taken care of, they’re left to guess on the chance of needing the additional bathroom paper, sooner slightly than later,” mentioned Baruch Fischhoff, a psychologist and professor within the division of engineering and public coverage and the Institute for Politics and Technique at Carnegie Mellon College, who wasn’t concerned within the examine. “The truth that there are not any official guarantees would possibly enhance these chances.”

That is the identical conclusion that Garbe’s workforce reached.

“This examine has implications for political communication to scale back menace notion,” she mentioned. “Clear communication is essential. Individuals want easy behavioral directions.”

Scottie Andrew contributed to this story.

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kingofthewilderwest · 7 years

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So what is your favorite personality type indicator, if you hsve one?

Heehee, if it counts, the silly internet quizzes that ask you what character you are most like! XD XD XD No one takes these quizzes seriously, which is why I like them. We all do them just for fun, and to maybe feel like they can connect better with certain characters they like. That sort of lighthearted but-don’t-take-it-too-seriously is a good way to take personality tests. You have fun, you think about your personality, but you don’t believe that this is a powerful valid explanation of your internal mindset.

Don’t get me wrong… of course there is a lot more thought put into psychometric tests like the Enneagram or Myers-Briggs. They’re certainly better and more revealing tests than “Which Marvel Avengers Should You Date?” made by Mary Sue Smith on Buzzfeed. But there are many problems with popular personality tests - even the ones that are meant to be taken more seriously. Myers-Briggs has received an abundance of criticism from professional psychologists for decades. Some of the problems and shortcomings of this test include:

Lack of test-retest reliability. Tests have to be reliable, which means that people who take the test multiple times should receive consistent results. If you test as an INTP the first time, you should be an INTP if you take the test five weeks later. However, MBTI is notoriously unreliable here. Even if people have only a short time gap between when they take the first test and when they take the second test, there is something like a 50% chance of them receiving a different type. That’s not good and says something problematic about Myers-Briggs!

Taking all of humanity’s uniqueness and shoving people into sixteen concrete boxes. The Myers-Briggs test puts us in one category or another. It erases the continuum of possibilities someone could be. People aren’t “just” an extrovert or an introvert. Chances are, you have some traits of both. There are ambiverts, introverted extroverts, extroverted introverts, and a whole continuum and range of different ways people may be introverted or extroverted. Myers-Briggs doesn’t take into account if you’re introverted with your grandparents but extroverted with your peers, or if you’re shy giving speeches but very extroverted jamming on the dance floor. Myers-Briggs flattens us all and tries to shove us into boxes, despite the fact that most of us probably cannot be so easily categorized as one of sixteen personality types. People who fall in the center of the Introversion-Extroversion test because they legitimately are in a continuum… just get tossed into the same box as the person who’s freakishly always Introverted.

The test wasn’t created by people qualified to make a psychometric test. Myers-Briggs was made by Katharine Briggs (who had a degree in agriculture) and her daughter Isabell Myers (who had a degree in political science). So people are taking a test that was made by an agriculturalist and a political scientist. They just made a test based off (and even divergent from) what they read from Carl Jung - who also, may it be noted, has received his own fair share of criticism for his ideas.

Test takers answer questions in a way that they’ll like the answer. By answering questions about your assessment of your own personality, it’s no wonder that you like the result you get for MBTI - it’s what you told the test about yourself in the first place. Test takers aren’t necessarily getting any new novel analysis about who they are and how they think… they’re getting what they already believe about themselves.

Some of the categories that “contrast” one another are actually linked. Are you a thinker or a feeler? It turns out that the more you like thinking and analyzing data, the more likely you are to also be good at recognizing emotion, too. What the Myers-Briggs considers discrete categories or “opposites” are actually not contrastive ends of a continuum at all.

MBTI is extremely limited in how it studies human personality. It only looks at very specific, small facets of how you think or feel.

Most studies don’t seem to support MBTI as valid, and the studies that do seem to support MBTI are poorly researched and weakly reviewed.

There are even more criticisms about the test than what I put in my list. Wikipedia has a few of them. Researching “Myers-Briggs Criticism” on Google gives you some other perspectives, too.

So, unfortunately, as fun as it is to talk about whether you’re an ESFJ or INFP, and while there might be some correlation in personality traits to Myers-Briggs Type… it’s not that great of a test. A lot of it is… uh… bogus. Sorry to ruin that for you, guys!

Thankfully, there are some tests that don’t fall into the pitfalls like Myers-Briggs do (or at least, don’t fall into as many of these pitfalls). There are some psychometric and personality inventory tests that I’ve heard are more scientifically developed. That said, since I don’t know much about these tests and haven’t done thorough reading on their methodology and theory and the like, I can’t personally vouch for how amazing (or not) they actually are. But here are some tests that might be less……… problematic……… than MBTI:

Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI-2). Actually used in clinics by mental health professionals (and developed by a PhD in Psychology and MD in Neurology), this test is used to diagnose and treat mental illness in adults.

Big Five (Revised NEO Personality Inventory) and HEXACO. These are also personality inventories (HEXACO adds a sixth personality dimension that the Big Five lacks) that study certain personality traits an individual has. There has been scrutiny and criticism on these tests and their theoretical bases, but at least they have been developed by professionals in the field and the ideas published in peer-reviewed sources.

So yeah! I’m so, so sorry if I sound like a spoilsport for not being a fan of Myers-Briggs. I am glad that people enjoy the test and I don’t think there’s anything wrong taking fun tests, so long as you don’t take them more seriously than they should be taken. Use it to think about characters, use it to think about yourself if it helps! But this is why I don’t like the test: because it’s not valid, and because people treat it like it’s valid. It’s also unfortunately leaked into me being leery of other personality tests… except for the happy-go-lucky fun ones that are obviously not meant to be taken seriously. XD I will take all sorts of tests - I know my Myers-Briggs and my Enneagram and all that - but yeah. Don’t take it too seriously.

#MBTI #Myers-Briggs #non-dragons #long post #blabbing Haddock #ask #ask me #hiccup-is-left-handed

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