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The Ineffable Ducks
What's with all the ducks in Good Omens that Crowley seems to be inordinately fond of? Turns out, they do have a narrative purpose, they're not just in there as a running joke about Crowley's fondness for the animals of Earth.
They appear in both S1 and S2, and get mentioned in several seemingly random places. Like, really random. There are quite a few in St James Park, where the ducks live, where the international spies also clandestinely meet, where Aziraphale and Crowley meet on several occasions, and where Crowley and Shax have a meeting, exchanging information in S2E1.
Ducks also get referred to here, when Aziraphale suggests they use humans to search and spy out the missing Antichrist, but Crowley insists it will be near impossible because suspicion slides off the boy like water off, what ever water slides off, because he has an automatic defense system.
The he remembers the ducks(!) later in the Bentley when they discuss using their respective networks of highly trained human operatives (Shadwell and the Witchfinder army), and Aziraphale asks if Crowley has a better idea than his. "Ducks!" Crowley suddenly utters.
The ducks that are always there, that you see but don't see, gathering bread crumbs, when any kind of surveillance or secret spy work is being discussed.
Nah, I thought, it couldn't be a sly ref to this famous cartoon by Larson, could it?
Aziraphale and Crowley are always afraid that someone is watching, or listening to everything they do, from both sides. I mean isn't that partly why we got the ending we did in S2, because they have had to be so covert with their communication to each over the centuries they've forgotten how to speak plainly to each other?
Heaven has definitely been watching...
And Hell certainly noticed Crowley's act of kindness in the Edinburgh cemetery, swiftly summoning him to Hell for punishment after his kind deed on behalf of Elspeth.
Then when the duo meet in again 1867 Crowley wonders if "ducks have ears" before declaring they must do - that's how they hear other ducks. So its no surprise that when Crowley asks Aziraphale for holy water that he writes the request on a piece of paper to hide it from those invisible ever-present watchers they know are never far away.
When we come to the start of S2, where Crowley is slouched in St James Park once more, reading the Tadfield Advertiser, and yelling at the Azerbaijani secret agents for feeding the ducks bread. Crumbs, it was alright to do this in the book, and S1, why is wrong now? Has Crowley suddenly become woke and caring for the ducks? Nah.
There's a lot more to it than that. I realized this is the missing Grain offering from my post about altar offerings (see The Altar of Eccles Cakes) in S2. A Grain offering represents a voluntary expression of devotion to God - or the other side you're supposed to be aligned with, in this case.
Shax is part of this scene, discussing the latest news from below, and she mentions some special intel that Hell has received, from their own secret squirrel network. Of course they would meet in St James Park to discuss this, along with all the other spies. While Shax tries to get some intel out of Crowley about what might be going on in Heaven, because she knows he has contact with a certain angel who owns a book shop, Crowley responds by refusing to show any devotion to his former side at this point, and isn't going to give any information away that could be useful. He also doesn't have any intel at this point, anyway, but he's not going to give that away either! Heaven and Hell are toxic, and no one should be going anywhere near them, in his opinion. So stop feeding them that devotional bread!
After Shax asks what they should be feeding the ducks, he eventually says "Frozen Peas. It's good for them, they like it."
The short period of "peas" since they stopped the impending Apocalypse has been enjoyable, and good for Crowley and Aziraphale, but the forced meeting with Beelzebub later that day soon jolts Crowley out of any complacency when they indicate that the "generalized understanding" Crowley thought they had with Heaven and Hell after the body swap to leave them alone, the one Aziraphale-as-Crowley negotiated, while asking for a rubber duck, no less, was looking very shaky and fragile indeed.
And one more random duck ref to discuss.
I was inspired to write this section by lalalunamoth's post calling Muriel a duckling imprinted on Crowley, and of course I did not save it, did I, and a search does not bring it back up again (found it!), so if you're reading this, or know that post, please let me know! I read it, and thought, cute, but nah, then realized that Muriel was sent on a surveillance mission to Whickber St to ascertain the truth of Aziraphale's 25 lazurii miracle. And she did act as the eyes of Heaven, writing up some reports, called Crowley "grice," then followed him around during his escapade in Heaven just like a duckling following a grumpy gander drake while he did his own surveillance measures in a Tactical Turtle neck, channeling his best imitation Sean Connery voice (have you noticed that as well, people?)
No, no, the op wasn't wrong - those big cross ducks, er grice geese, they make good guard dogs, no?
With special mention to Crowley acting as a surveillance duck just prior to this, and Mr Brown doing his own "spying out" of Aziraphale.
To finish this meta, there is one other figure who notably offered the ducks bread, in the book. This passage, which is surely relevant to S3, but didn't appear in S1, shows another character still devoted to God in a way. Lets give Death the final word:
Crowley: "Maybe it's it's all part of a great ineffable plan. All of it. You, me, him, everything. Some great big test to see if what you've built all works properly, eh? You start thinking: it can't be a great cosmic game of chess, it has to be just very complicated Solitaire. And don't bother to answer. if we could understand, we wouldn't be us. Because it's all - all - "
INEFFABLE, said the figure feeding the ducks.
"Yeah. Right. Thanks."
#good omens#crowley#aziraphale#shax#ducks!#ineffable bureaucracy#the fear that somewhere somehow a duck is watching you#Larson#always watching#frozen peas#grain offering#altar offerings#muriel#big cross ducks#witchfinder army#shadwell#tactical turtleneck#guard dog geese#grice#the pub#mr brown
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The characters on the show that had the most shirtless scenes would be Jaegers brothers, especially Zeke
Minimum showing:
Manga Only:
#attack on titan#shingeki no kyojin#eren yeager#eren jaeger#zeke yeager#zeke jaeger#grisha jaeger#grisha yeager#levi ackerman#armin arlert#reiner braun#erwin smith#grice
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[2018] Grice ~ Miracle ~
The Marionette that came to life; the lifetime suit with the third hair recolor..
Close ups under the Read More.
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#colt grice#attack on titan#falco grice#shingeki no kyojin#aot#snk#colt#grice#grice brothers#attack on titan colt grice#fanart#anime
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I've suddenly decided that every time I post a weird rant on Reddit I'm just going to paste it here too. Responding to why "next Friday" spoken on a Monday means "Friday of next week" and not "the next Friday that will happen:"
The way I justify it is by relating it to the only theory of language I know (and if all I have is a hammer, that means God wouldn't give me a problem other than a nail, right?) Gricean conversational implicature.
Basically, if someone is saying something to you, and they're not lying or joking, they're trying to be helpful. If someone says "they have a dog," they probably think that the dog itself is relevant to you; maybe you have allergies. If they say, "they have a big dog," they probably also think the word "big" is relevant, or they would have omitted it; maybe they're worried you will be bowled over by the size of this dog. If you're visiting somewhere with a big dog and you're allergic to dogs, people are most likely to say "they have a dog," because "big" isn't relevant. You can therefore communicate via omission. The popular example is a letter of reference. You expect a letter of reference to explain the best things about a student. If it just says, "this person had good hand-writing," it is communicated that they are not a good student, because if they were a good student, you would try to be helpful by explaining that, so if you're being helpful but didn't explain how they're a good student, the omission is intentional, and the information is that they're a bad student. (a philosopher of language once joked in a letter of research intent that they knew they would have good references because their handwriting is so bad)
Apply it here. It is Monday the 14th, and street date is Friday the 18th. If I say, "the game comes out Friday," I must mean the 18th. If it came out on the 25th, I would've specified, because in that case the fact that it's a Friday isn't helpful. So if someone says "the game comes out next Friday," your brain clues in that "next" is important here. Because "it comes out Friday" means the 18th, your brain thinks about what information "next" might add. It is likely to decide that the added information must be that it is the next Friday after the one it would otherwise be pointed to. In this way we can speak something that literally means one thing but is most likely to communicate another, without ever noticing we're speaking non-literally.
Something Grice doesn't talk about is why people get this wrong sometimes (at least as far as I've read). Personally I think that if you're below mastery with a language (or autistic or just really literal) you're going to be focused on piecing together what is being communicated from literal meaning. "Next Friday" literally means "the Friday that is next," obviously. If you're focused on that part, you never take a step to ask why "next" is in the sentence at all. So we can be confused by this kind of communication. A neurotypical native English speaker for whom speaking English is as natural as breathing doesn't even notice they've used conversational implicature, and may be confused by someone not grasping it. That's why I always point it out - I've been left behind by people who have mastered language to a degree they haven't noticed, and even been told I must be playing dumb if I didn't realize why "next Friday" means next Friday. Reading Grice has actually helped my communication.
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Grice, Herbert P. "Logic and conversation." Speech acts. Brill, 1975. 41-58.
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True love is finding someone to violate the gricean maxim of quantity with
#actually any gricean maxim#but that one especially#fucking grice thinking I could talk like a normal person#this what studying glotology for weeks on end has done to me smh#linguistics#grice#gricean maxims#pragmatics
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Hello there Grice fans.
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pieces of a philosophy of mind lecture, out of context, pt. 4
people believe 'the queen is dead'
you can infer 'some thing is dead'
if you believe 'she is dead and buried'
you can infer 'she is dead and she is buried'
Notice: This is an internalist theory
#personal#grad school#poetry#philosophy#philosophy of mind#philosophy of language#conversational implicature#implicature#grice#h. p. grice#scalar implicature#logic#linguistics#pragmatics
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Jaegers and Grices
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End of a Great Story 🪽🥹
#attack on titan#shingeki no kyojin#eren jeager#levi ackerman#mikasa ackerman#armin arlert#levi ackerman x reader#reiner braun#jean kirschtien#connie springer#annie leonhart#pieck finger#zeke yeager#gabi braun#falco grice#historia reiss#survey corps#anime and manga#anime
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so ist es immer
#attack on titan#shingeki no kyojin#shingeki#snk#aot#jean kirstein#reiner braun#pieck finger#annie leonhart#connie springer#armin arlert#levi ackerman#gabi braun#falco grice#aot onyankopon#onyankopon#yelena#yelena aot#yelena snk#aot yelena#fanart#ahhh im so sad
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Grisha a maudit Keith
Non, je ne pense pas au père d'Eren comme un sorcier pratiquant du vaudou pour ceux qui poserait la question. 😜
J'adore Grisha. Il a toujours été mon personnage préféré dans SnK et ce, depuis 2014 (oui, ça remonte), et je suis tellement heureuse de ce qu'Isayama a fait de lui ! J'adore le fait qu'il soit l'un des personnages les plus gentils (même s'il n'est pas vraiment doux) du manga en plus d'être, comme beaucoup d'autres, tellement humain et bien écrit !
Néanmoins, je considère aussi, justement grâce à ce réalisme et cette humanité, qu'il a vraiment fait un numéro sur le pauvre Keith, l'affligeant inutilement d'un fardeau qu'il n'avait pas besoin de porter.
Ainsi, dans le chapitre 71, ce qui attire surtout mon regard, c'est la façon dont Keith dit ''lui aussi''. Car, en voulant bien faire et l'encourager, je pense fermement que Grisha a effectivement maudit Keith, ce jour-là dans le bar, en lui faisant croire que seules les personne spéciales pouvaient changer les choses.
Que ce soit ce qu'il ait voulu dire ou non, ce fait, s'il est réel, ne changera pas. Et, toujours si c'est vrai, alors je trouve vraiment bien qu'Isayama montre que, bien que Grisha a finit par prendre conscience de ses erreurs et que la trahison de Siëg en soit le déclencheur, il lui a fallut du temps pour abandonner ses idées de ''spécial'' et ''d'élu''. Carla et sa simplicité y étant potentiellement pour quelque chose.
En fait, entre le Grisha du bar, quelques jours après sa déportation, et le Grisha de Liberio, quelques jours avant sa déportation, la seule différence que je vois dans leur vision du monde (outre la vie en lambeau et les souvenirs défaillants du premier suite à l'injection), c'est que les personnes spéciales ne se reconnaissent pas à leur sang mais à leur personnalité. Et abandonner ses idées lui a prit beaucoup plus de temps et d'introspection que seulement les paroles de Kruger.
Non vraiment… je t'adore mais, Grisha, qu'est-ce que tu fous, là ?
Enfin, je dis leurs personnalités mais je pense que c'est plus une combinaison de leur volonté de changer les choses, leurs façons d'être et leurs talents individuels qui priment chez Grisha. Et Keith sans cesse témoin des commentaires cruels des anti-SC avait sans doute besoin de croire en quelque chose d'un minimum positif auquel il pourrait se raccrocher. Malheureusement, cela s'est avéré toxique, démoralisateur et l'aura finalement piégé dans la dépression pendant des années !
Grisha a peut-être des problèmes avec ses amis (Grice, Keith…) mais j'ai l'impression que eux aussi ont des problèmes avec lui. Et dans les deux cas, c'est plutôt justifier.
Grice n'avait pas à faire peser toute la révolution sur les épaules de Grisha simplement car il était leur leader.
Keith n'avait pas à laisser la jalousie le pousser à abandonner l'un de ses amis sans lui faire face ou être honnête à ce sujet.
Mais Grisha n'avait pas non plus a négliger et objectiver son entourage pour son but pas plus que de mettre des idées hiérarchique de valeur personnelle basée sur les ''élus'' de ce monde dans la tête de Keith.
Ai-je mentionner que j'adore Eren (Jaeger, Kruger étant bien plus difficile pour moi), Grisha (mon préféré) et Keith (l'un de mon top 10) ? Parce qu'ils sont géniaux à voir et à décortiquer !
#Grisha Jaeger#Keith Shadis#Grice#Shingeki no Kyôjin#Attack on Titan#AOT#Je n'ai pas rencontrer un seul personnage de SnK complètement clean et j'adore ça !#Quand ton favori problématique prend son temps dans sa transition jusqu'au stade de rouleau à la cannelle.#Enfin... rouleau à la canelle... ça dépend du point de vu. Parce que je pense que Freida ne serait pas trop d'accord avec l'idée.#D'un autre côté avant l'intervention de son fils l'homme était prêt à se laisser cannibaliser sans même essayer de fuir ou résister.#Alors que pour ce qu'il en savait sa famille aurait pu être en sécurité. Est-ce de la gentillesse ? Renonciation ? Stupidité ? Conviction ?#Hum... oui ! C'est définitivement une question de point de vu.
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