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victoriously-wicked · 20 days
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🎶In the arms of an angel…🎶 @whipjack
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I present to you, the permanent (-ish) deaths of Once Upon a Time s3.
I got inspired binging Haley Whipjack’s s3 analysis video, definitely my favourite OUAT season video essay that has been made so far on that channel. Anyway, enjoy this piece and check out all of Haley’s OUAT videos that have been completed so far (s1-3).
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mccallhero · 5 months
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killian jones + the instincts of a survivor
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happy-emmdings · 8 months
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Sooo how exactly did Peter Pan recruit Greg and Tamara and then how did he communicate with them? Because I started picturing Pan’s shadow flying into the real world to sit behind a computer and start posting conspiracy theories and sending out e-mails with orders to his little anti-magic fanatics cult.
Everytime Greg and Tamara received “orders” from the “home office” or whatever was it just a shadowy guy sitting menacingly behind a computer in a public library e-mailing about magic diamonds of destruction?
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saptaincwan · 9 months
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watching ouat as a 12 y/o and then again and again and again and then as a grownup is an insane experience it's like. you watch with atrocious media literacy skills and don't Get stuff but its fun,
and then BOOM the themes of love and forgiveness and how they're explored to the show. analyzing the established magic system and each unique layer that forms each character. now i see that not only the curtains are blue but also why
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heddagab · 2 years
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OUATWEEK2022 | Day 2: Favorite side character or cameo ~ Hades ⚡️
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poisonappleeater · 1 month
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house looks like a raw chicken breast but i love him anyway
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fleurdelislily · 1 year
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i wanna start writing headcanons for shows and stuff but I feel like no one would actually read them???
if you have requests for kaleidoscope, succession, legends of tomorrow, or once upon a time, (all x reader Im not great at character x character) pls send them I wanna write stuff 🥲 nsfw or sfw im fine with whatever
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lovecanbesostrange · 2 years
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I will forever roll my eyes at S3 of OUaT not because I think Neverland was the worst idea. You know what, maybe down the line I could have enjoyed it. But I hate how Greg and Tamara got thrown out. And the whole promise of anti-magical people showing up. Yes, let’s go for another round, because of this post and comments.
@konako:
And 2!!! If the anti-magic folk invaded Storybrooke and Snow decided not to act on it, even after Red shared her concerns. Then the Red Snow fight that would happen. With Red (and the magicals) feeling righteous rage at that disregard!!!
IMAGINE! I love Snow very much (with all her flaws including that time she cursed an unborn dragon-baby...), but oh the absolute optimism getting to her. First it’s still play pretend around Greg and you know, Snow is the type of person who might word-vomit something along the line of “well Regina did try to kill us with magic; magic has been used multiple times to hurt me”. She can look at a werewolf and feel compassion, see the person behind. But she also could both-side the whole situation. Inviting trouble. Especially after Cora ran around, the big villain using dark magic and lots of manipulation tactics. And Snow also wanting to get back being the nice one who gives second chances. (Think about Snow’s face when August says she never needed redemption, oh yeah, let’s play with those emotions and lead her down the wrong path.)
Really play with the town and the very different types of people living there. Personally I’m sad that Billy was killed, because we never got to hear him talk more about his life as a mouse and what he thinks about being full human now. There would have been a hot take. (He never wished to be a real boy afaik).
This whole thing of “we are both” should have played out more. What it means knowing magic exists, how their old lives were shaped by it and what to do now. And oh, imagine how to make our biggest wish could have come true. We not only have another thing to pit Regina and Snow against each other (Regina being very aware of terrible consequences; Snow seeing a chance to build something better and being welcoming) - no, no, Ruby siding with Regina on this one. (It’s what Lana and Meghan deserved!)
Ugh, who am I kidding. All we want is an epic Red Snow fight. To test that friendship. Sometimes I think about Snow’s “I helped you when no one else would”... throwing that back in her face, because emotions run high would be delicious. (Plus the apology fest afterwards and the extra long hug.) I mean, even in S5 after not seeing her in a while Snow still called Red her best friend and I want to believe she means it. And it means a lot. They’ve been through a lot. So one big blow up between them, please. Without making one completely unreasonable (because of course in this version I would have Tamara come around, or maybe somebody else introduced into this).
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ladystrallan · 1 year
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If you are still active in the OUAT fandom, message me :)
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stabby-apologist · 1 year
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Idk, something wrong with this Hades actor. Been a whole lot better if they implemented James Woods for the role, since after all James Woods was the voice actor in the animated role. 🔥🛶☁️⚡️
Like, Greg Germann makes a better lawyer on Law and Order than the Lord of the Underworld.
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Hades, Once Upon a Time
He does try to resemble James Woods' impersonation, though, but still. Can't beat the OG.
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itachi86 · 3 days
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it's kind of hilarious when tamara says magic is unholy
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mintchip-lover · 5 months
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They talk like they're all that, it's so fucking funny they're so serious about it too
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treatian · 2 years
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The Chronicles of the Dark One: Fathers and Sons
Chapter 3: Wild Imagination
He believed he'd be away from them, believed that he'd wind up on the island, and when he opened his eyes, he was there. It was dark, but his eyes cut through the lack of light to observe a familiar scene from his childhood. It was a jungle island. The terrain was rocky and solid but littered with a soft mixture of dirt and sand. Dead branches, fallen leaves, and stones of all shapes and sizes littered the ground around him. In this place, the brush was overgrown, and trees grew larger than he'd ever even known them to grow in the Enchanted Forest. If some myths were to be believed, then this place was even older than his fairy tale home, so he didn't bat an eye at the ancientness he felt around him, though the loneliness of it certainly struck him.
He was never keen on returning to Neverland, but he'd be lying if he said he hadn't kept an ear out for stories from there all his life. The same way the hair on the back of his neck pricked up every time he heard his mother's name and tales, Peter Pan would always have that same power over him, he imagined. However, whether or not to let that power show was entirely up to him. So he'd listened over the years as the stories had evolved. Changing from tales of boys running and playing and joyously living their lives to something right out of Lord of the Flies. The boys he'd heard tales of lately were not sweet or innocent. They were ruthless. They were hunters. They were Pan's soldiers and spies, sent about the island to do his bidding, loyal until the end. For that reason alone, he lingered where he arrived on the island and sent his senses out around him, listening for heartbeats and breathing, trying to smell emotion and sense danger.
There was nothing. Nothing and no one around him. He was lucky…for now.
He looked about the island again, trying to get his bearings on where he was exactly but found no helpful landmarks. There was a sense of familiarity with his location but nothing firm. That wasn't shocking, the last time he'd been here, he'd been a human child, and that was hundreds of years before Pan had taken power. It was probably foolish to think that he could tell where he was. That was no matter; where he was on the island was of little consequence. Where he was on the island in relation to where Henry was, was the true matter of importance.
The first step to saving Henry was to find him. But he had to be careful; he couldn't go about it directly because he didn't know where his father could be, and he didn't know it even half as well as he knew his father did. If he went directly to Henry and snatched him up from under his nose with no exit plan, he could ruin everything. There was going to be more to this than just "get Henry." He also needed to get Henry home. The best way to make a plan was to have more information. If he could locate Henry, he could gain some information, perhaps even keep an eye on him to ensure he was alive and stayed alive. His best-case scenario would be to find him with Greg and Tamara before they could turn him over to Pan. But to locate Henry now?
He had to do this carefully. He didn't know the extent to which his father felt magic, but he knew that he was capable of it. The good news was that he was in a place that had its own magical power source, and he knew how to tap into it. The bad news was that using belief over his own magic was far from instinctual. It might slow him down, but that too had its benefits as well as its risks. The advantage to doing this slowly and carefully was blending in, staying under the radar, and winning. The potential risk was Henry.
Neverland was a world run on belief. And he could feel that power waning even as he stood there calculating his next step. Henry, a boy made of nothing but belief, would be a person of great value to a place like this. If he took too long and Pan got his hands on him…it could be devastating.
He knew what he was going to do. He needed to utilize the magic of this world to stay under the radar, but he couldn't use it to go about finding Henry directly. So he'd split the baby. He'd use magic to find where the portal opened; good old-fashioned tracking would help him locate Henry from there.
He took a deep breath and closed his eyes again. He believed. He believed in belief, in the power of it. He believed that the island could take him to the place the portal had opened up, that it could take them to where Tamara and Greg brought Henry through. He believed. He believed. He believed.
And when he opened his eyes, he saw…forest. A different part of the forest. It was right up against the beach but not the sea. There were no tides or waves, but it still smelled salty. Perhaps it was a river or the remains of one. And salt wasn't the only thing he smelled. Magic was in the air. Magic from their realm. The kind of magic summoned by a portal.
It stood out in stark contrast to the island's magic, even if it was only a shadow of its former self. That shadow was far more powerful than what he felt now from the island. And the people who'd been using it. They would be covered in it just as he probably was. That could be a problem, but hopefully, then Pan's Shadow would be drawn to the bigger beacon, the ship and the others, as it faded from him. That left him to simply sniff out the magic clinging to Henry and his captors, and locate them.
He inhaled deeply, then followed the scent. Off the beach. Into the jungle. Though a path that was freshly made. It didn't take long until the scent of magic grew stronger, and he paused at the sound that caught his ears. A heartbeat. Two. Two heartbeats. One calm and normal, another weak and erratic, someone dying. That wasn't good. If it weren't for that last fact, he'd have been satisfied he'd found them and turned away before he revealed himself. But if someone was dying…
The path before him opened up into a clearing, and he took in the sight before him with curiosity first and anger second. The site was obviously a place where people had stopped for an evening and started a fire for warmth. But there was a problem with it. A big one. There was a body beside that fire pit. One that he recognized.
Greg Mendell.
There was no hint of how he died, though he didn't exactly spend much time worrying over it when he considered that he knew who the murderers likely were. And it was hard to focus on him when the sound of the dying heart called to him.
Tamara.
He could hear her gasping for air from across the clearing. She was making noise, the dead leaves rustling around her as she squirmed on the ground as if there was any hope for her.
She was alive. Barely. There was an arrow sticking out of her back, thumping in time to her heart, a signal of just how deep it went. He smelled a poison; if it wasn't the same stuff that Hook had used on him, then it was a close cousin. Dreamshade…he'd read about Neverland having it but never had any in his possession while knowing what it was to identify it. Now he knew. And a lot of good it did him because Henry was nowhere in sight.
He glanced over at Tamara. Part of him rejoiced to see her there, like that. He hated her. For how she'd managed to trick him and how she'd fooled Bae, not to mention how she'd killed him…he wanted nothing more than to watch her suffer and die as his son died. But she was also the last one known to be with Henry, and their campgrounds looked as though they'd been attacked. He had to know if Henry had already been taken. He had to know what he was walking into. And the extra heartbeat in the woods…Henry's? Or something more sinister?
He stepped closer and stood over her, making it so that she had no choice but to see him. Did she know who he was? Exactly who he was? The shock of fear he smelled coming off of her mingled with the stench of death would suggest Bae had told her that much, at least. Good.
"So, where is he?" he asked of her. "Henry."
She opened her mouth, but all that came out were breathless gasps, her fingers flexing as if trying to dig into the ground and hold onto this world. That close to her heart, the arrow had probably pierced her lung as well. She'd be dead soon, and any pertinent information she might have would die with her. He wore his mask of false patience. He knew how to play these situations. And if the reward was great, he knew how to play them even in the direst of situations. If the prize was his grandson, then he could indulge the woman who had murdered his son…for now.
"There, there," he hushed, offering comfort that seared his soul. "I can help you speak." Belief. He believed the arrow hadn't hurt her. He believed the arrow wasn't tipped in poison. He believed…
He waved his hand over her, and it was so. The arrow vanished, leaving her whole once more. And Tamara…Tamara took a deep breath. She pushed herself up into a sitting position and looked up at him with eyes of gratitude. "Thank you," she said, tearing up.
He wanted to pluck those eyes from her skull.
"Where's Henry?" he asked, focusing on the primary objective. Her heart began to race again, and her face screwed itself up as if she were about to start sobbing. He swallowed hard, preparing for the worst with a reaction like that. "They killed him?"
"I don't think so," Tamara finally answered, allowing him to finally release a breath. "I told him to run, and he did."
"Where?"
"The jungle," she answered, raising her hand to point into the brush. He was less than pleased with that answer. Pan attacked here, leaving Mendell and Tamara for dead; Henry ran off on an unfamiliar island that was no doubt covered with Pan's faithful followers. He wasn't likely to get far, but still…there was always hope. He needed to confirm-
"Pan wants him; he's behind all this. Look, Mr. Gold…I didn't know who I was working for," Tamara finally burst out tearfully. None of it came as a shock to him. It was what he'd suspected since he'd first found out. "I'm sorry about Neal."
His breath caught as he gazed down at her with those sad eyes and tortured face. Her nerve was…incredible. Less than twenty-four hours since she'd murdered his son in cold blood, and now she was saying his name? Crying over him as if she was a grieving widow and not the one who had pulled the trigger.
"I'm so sorry," she wept. He felt his hand begin to shake. He was losing his patience.
He took a breath, made sure his face was stone and kneeled before her. "I know," he whispered with honesty. "You were merely a pawn."
Nothing about what she'd told him concerning her and Pan had been a shock. Only Bae…
"Can…can you forgive me?"
He felt himself smirk as he kept his high ground, kneeling over her as he was. Forgive her? After she'd done this less than twenty-four hours ago, stared down at his son as he lay dying? Shot by her? And she wanted to know if he could forgive her?! He didn't understand why she thought that was a possibility. It wasn't sorrow she felt, just cold, calculated desperation. She was interested in saving her own life and using the father of the man she'd killed to do it. Not even in her wildest imagination…
"No," he growled. Then reached out before that look of hope could die and pulled her heart from her chest. He let her see it in his hand as he rose and squeezed it tight so she wouldn't be able to fight as the pain overwhelmed her. He wanted her to feel how it was to be betrayed by someone she longed for forgiveness from, who could have helped her, been family to her.
Then he crushed it and watched the life drain from her eyes as he avenged his son.
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ouatsqincorrect · 8 months
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me, showing my little sister ouat for the first time (we’re on 2x20): ok so recap. greg and tamara are a part of this cult and they want to destroy all magic. i guess we’ll just have to see who the cult leader is huh….
my sister: is it granny?
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bullet-prooflove · 2 years
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lizardthelizard · 7 months
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Every word you wrote about Tamara is just FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!! What I would have given for Grag & Tamara to be so broken because of magic, that they both had plans of revenge. Getting more people involved behind the scenes even. Tragic, yet understandable backstories and a real threat to Storybrooke from the outside world. The fears of some folks in town coming true (the whole E.T. thing Leroy mentioned in the hospital after Greg first showed up). The danger of having magic in a non-magical world.
EXACTLY!!! 'Tragic yet understandable' is the perfect way to phrase it, because OUAT is very good at including antagonists with these kinds of backstories (although, the effectiveness of this varies from character to character) and I'm sad that Tamara didn't get enough attention to receive the same treatment!
Okay, so, I'm gonna lay out some thoughts properly because why not:
(Disclaimer: I'm adding a read more because this got VERY out of hand. But please read on if anyone is interested in headcanoned Tamara backstory!)
(Second disclaimer: I've actually used this general backstory for Tamara in one of my fics before, although I wasn't able to go into quite as much detail at the time)
So, imagine. Tamara is a child (maybe 10 or 11). She has a happy family; parents that love her, a younger brother that she cares about a lot, a pet goldfish, whatever. And then imagine that, one night, 10 year old Tamara hears a noise from her brother's bedroom. She goes to investigate it but, when she opens the door, she finds herself frozen in shock. The window is wide open and her brother is floating in the middle of the room.
There's the faint sparkle of a glowing green dust on him and a dark shadow with bright, hollow eyes floats just beside him. Tamara pinches herself. She thinks she's dreaming. She's not. The shadowy figure spots her and before she can do a thing to stop it, the creature has taken her brother's hand and flown out the window with him. Maybe he cheerfully waves goodbye, maybe he doesn't even notice that she was there at all.
When Tamara finally works up the courage to move, she rushes to the window. Her brother is long gone, but there's a very fine sprinkle of green dust on the windowsill left in his absence.
Of course, she goes to tell her parents and, of course, they panic. Tamara tries to tell them what she saw but they naturally ignore any claims that she saw her brother flying or that the person that kidnapped him was nothing but a shadow with white, glowing eyes.
There was no sign of a break in from anywhere in the apartment. And the investigation team are baffled as to how anyone could have clambered in and out of the window when the room is situated on the third floor of the building. Tamara's brother never comes back and it's eventually considered a cold case.
Tamara has always considered herself honest, logical and responsible. For a long while, she insists that what she saw was true. It's only after she starts getting therapy that she begins to doubt things.
Therapy does little to fix things. Her family is completely broken. A year or so down the line, her parents divorce. Tamara starts to visit her Grandmother more and more often and she develops a very tight bond with her.
Tamara grows up and moves on from it all as best she can. She eventually stumbles into the same conspiracy group that Greg is a part of. They don't connect right away, but, after a couple of meet ups, they discover that they have a lot in common and also come to realise that, perhaps, they're the only two people in this group that have actually seen real magic.
They eventually confide in one another, talking about how 'magic' has ruined their lives. How it's hurt them in ways that no one else in this group that they're a part of will understand. They connect (idk, they can still get together romantically if they want, although I personally didn't see much chemistry between them and the show only really paired them up for shock value let's be honest) and they start talking about fairy tales and Storybrooke.
(Side note, since Greg is kind of aware of Regina being the Evil Queen (right? or is he not aware of that until he reaches Storybrooke again?) maybe he's even able to suggest that it could have been Peter Pan/Peter's Shadow that kidnapped her brother. I like the idea that he's very overly familiar with a lot of fairy tales and stories is more than willing to consider them in the real world ever since his interaction with Regina)
Anyway, I don't know HOW (and forgive me if I'm missing something from canon here, I'm guessing it maybe had something to do with Pan) but I like the idea of Greg in particular managing to track down either August or Neal (since, aside from Emma, those two are the links that lead back to Storybrooke). And, from here, the pair of them start working on plans to get to Storybrooke.
Greg and Tamara are both therefore stuck with these similar backstories, involving someone they loved being taken from them by someone magical. And ALSO similar in the sense that...no one believed them when they tried to tell the truth about this... Not only would this be about getting some kind of revenge (Greg wanting to get closure on his father and then kill Regina when he confirms that she did murder his dad, and Tamara desperate to find some trace of the shadow that took her brother), but it would also be about proving that they were right this entire time. That they weren't lying or 'crazy' or making things up. That magic is real and it's dangerous.
I guess the dilemma for Greg and Tamara is: how? How are they able to prove that magic actually exists, in a world where magic is unseen to those that don't believe in it? (This is a question that I will be pondering on, but not one that I'll be answering here. This ask has already gotten too long, ahahah)
(Still, there's one final thing I'd like to address)
Because, you see, there's something so deliciously tragic about Pan being the one to cause this trauma in the first place. For him to be so heavily responsible for Tamara's tragic childhood and then him continuing to have a chokehold on Tamara years later on. OUGH.
That said? yeah, I absolutely would have preferred if the Pan arc had been kept entirely separate from Greg and Tamara's (aka, they were there exclusively for their own reasons and not just because Pan said so). Greg and Tamara deserved their own arc that had nothing to do with Neverland. No 'home office', no dumb crystal that was triggered to explode the town or whatever (or! DO include those things! but tie them exclusively to John and Michael's story instead!)
I just!!!!!! I have way more feelings about Tamara (and to a lesser extent Greg/Owen) than I know I should and I'm getting a bit weird thinking about her lately!!!!!!
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