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bluehairedboyfriend · 1 month
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I'm rewatching supernatural (last i saw it was 2013) and like okay the writers can say dean in't bi but why do they send him a new hot boyfriend each season?
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flufflecat · 1 year
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Hi everyone. I just want you to know I’m thinking about crowley supernatural. Sorry. (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (●__●) (ー_ー゛)
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trans-leek-cookie · 1 year
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Saw something that made me #stop being ace aro because I can't fucking live like this
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actual-changeling · 6 months
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This post is going to show you the EXACT moment that tear forms with indisputable evidence that consists of several screencaps, detail shots, and slowed down video proof, which will be at the very end.
The tear and I are getting married, her name is Trina and I love her.
Let's get right into it. Be prepared for uh. Very painful facial expressions! And tears (at the end).
We're going to look through the final fifteen chronologically with pit stops at important emotional points that I think would make sense to cause a tear.
As you can see, we go into this argument with mostly dry eyes, a little glistening here and there but those are NOT tears. Probably just the contacts plus the lack of blinking making his eyes a bit more moist than your usual pair. The tear will be obvious.
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Obvious disbelief when Aziraphale tells him about the Metatron's bullshit, yes, but Crowley soldiers on through.
Now a scene that I personally thought would be most likely to cause tears - "tell me you said no". However - his eyes stay dry! Both before and after Aziraphale's non-answer. No tears.
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The best spot to look at is his waterline, and as you can see it's free of any sad tears.
We have reached the "go off together" stage, Crowley is yelling, they're both emotionally perturbed, a very good foundation for tears. Yet when you look at his eyes during and right after, they're still dry!
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We are now right before Crowley says "you can't leave this bookshop" and when he does BOOM the tear is suddenly there!
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This is what our tear looks like, and we have a very narrow time frame during which it can appear. So it is time for the grand reveal because by now you're probably yelling at me "okay but WHEN does it show up??"
I will tell you. Or rather, I will show you first and then tell you what Aziraphale said right before that triggered it. Ready?
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There it is. Left - no tear. Right - tear. (no i will not make the trivago joke again i want to but i wont.)
Come with me! To heaven! I'll run it, -> no tear yet. It appears after the next part.
you can be my second in command THAT is what causes the tear to finally show up. Right as Aziraphale finishes his sentence you can watch as it appears.
As promised, here is the video evidence, slowed down by half and zoomed in on Crowley's face at the end.
Alright, have you seen enough tears? Good! Let's look at the emotional reason. Because your question is probably what is so special about that sentence that it tips Crowley over the edge?
That one sentence, that one "promise" Aziraphale makes him, destroys everything. All of it in one go.
It is not just about Aziraphale choosing heaven over him, it's not about him saying no to running away (Crowley probably saw that coming anyway). What Aziraphale does is he takes them, their us and eliminates it.
Not just is he telling Crowley that he's an evil demon tm who needs to be an angel to be worthy of staying in Aziraphale's life, but "second in command" takes that even further.
Not "ruling together" or "ruling side by side" or any variation of those. No, Aziraphale is telling him that they are not equal and never have been. That Crowley has always been inferior to him and always WILL BE even if he stops being a demon and does what Aziraphale wants.
This is why Crowley no longer things of them as an us after all of that. Aziraphale took every single meaning it had and inverted it, crushed it up, and then threw it away.
Yeah.
Crowley is telling him he is gay and in gay love with him. Aziraphale takes that and says "you can be my employee at gay conversion therapy which i will run #straight besties".
Crowley hears "second in command" and it is the last puzzle piece falling into place. It's the final straw and that is when we get the tear. Before that he was saying we can be together, be an us, just the two of us, you and me. He was referring to them as free equals who don't need heaven or hell, who are happy with everything the way it is. An Aziraphale who loves Crowley no matter what his former occupation might have been.
We could have been us. (I wanted us to be an us)
And Aziraphale's answer to that is there has never been an us and we never will be. i don't love you the way you love me.
Anyway, see y'all on my next angst post or in the tags. Have another devastating screencap to wrap this all up nicely 💚
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tismrot · 7 months
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The uwu-fication of Good Omens
I’m not saying this to piss on anyone’s parade, everyone can like whatever they want and I realize that people who are perhaps… not experienced in traumatic adult relationships and/or aren’t bitter remnants of whatever ray of light they were supposed to be - I realize their fiction will probably be (for lack of better words)… light and easy.
I also realize that due to the collective heartbreak we’ve experienced after the end of season 2, a little fluff is perhaps needed. Again, not defecating on any crowds - but, like, we did watch the same show, right?
There are some REALLY good meta out there, as well as some fics and some art that really captures the essence of both Crowley and Aziraphale, and the context they struggle within.
…And then there are fics and art/comics where particularly Crowley is reduced to this very tsundere, cranky-despite-secretly-affectionate anime character who blushes and gets ✨ve-y angy✨ whenever he gets a kiss on his cheek or something and I’m like… okay? But. That’s not Crowley, is it? (Yes, you can make him into a hemipened waifu pillow for all I care, go do what makes you happy) - it’s just… You know?
Crowley and Aziraphale are (despite their celestial origins) - at their core - two middle aged, closeted, homosexual men who used to work for two equally oppressive, evil and incompetent fascist governments. That’s why they meet on the benches in the park, like all the other agents sent from other oppressive nations and agencies. The book was written during the last years of the cold war, and during the height of the AIDS crisis. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the first meds for HIV came in 1992 - being gay and being seen with the enemy could bring about equally terrifying death sentences. Yet, they do their best to thwart their Cold War, and then, the nuclear apocalypse.
After barely succeeding, they become as close as they dare to be, and they both know they love each other. Of course they do. That’s why Crowley wants them to stop pretending they don’t. He already assumes Aziraphale knows, because HE DOES KNOW.
Crowley isn’t (canonically) an uwu angy tsundere snek. He is a miserable ex-agent screaming at his closeted, gay lover for refusing to run away with him after 6000 years of war. Crowley is the opposite of tsundere, he is an open, aching wound.
Aziraphale isn’t a kawaii angel cup of hot chocolate, he is a desperate and scared idealist who is threatened into compliance by Great Leader, and who secretly wants nothing more than to let go of all propriety and just allow himself to be happy and freely experience life and love with the man he’s wanted all along, far from all oppression both from society and Heaven.
You guys, this is a story about fighting oppression for love. I just wanted to make sure we’re all on the same side.
And perhaps I’m just old, perhaps my experiences with multiple failed relationships, friendships and my own fallen idealism tints my glasses… But I feel a certain way about all the uwu. I’m sorry. Do uwu if you want. I’m gonna focus on the OPPRESSION, because - apparently - that’s the wall my socks stick to.
And yeah, I know this is very old man yells at cloud. Younger people (or people who just aren’t exactly like me) seeing this show or reading the book deserve the right to play around with it, just like I do. I know, I know, I know. I just needed to say this. Slay me if you must.
End of rant. Thank you for coming to my depression.
EDIT: Yes, I made the Avril Lavigne thing further down. Yes, I am a hypocrite. I’ve made my peace with this.
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whynotjohnlock · 8 months
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Incorrect quotes (Below the cut off)
Me at the start of season 2:
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Me at the end of Sesson 2:
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(Y/N): If you want my advice-
Aziraphale: No offense but you’re the last person I want relationship advice from. You tried to kill your significant other. Multiple times.
(Y/N): First off, that was before we started dating. Secondly, they’ve also tried to kill me.
Crowley: It’s true. It was mutually attempted murder.
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(Y/N): I- I- I was gone for one day and somehow, you've managed to start a war between heaven and hell and get divorced- while kissing- from 6000+ years of being married?
Crowley: In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
(Y/N): Wasn’t Aziraphale with you?
Aziraphale: In my defense, I was also left unsupervised.
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(Y/N), watching Aziraphale and Crowley from afar: Two Bros, Chillin in a hot tub. Five feet apart because they think they’re not gay, BUT THEY REALLY ARE-
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Crowley: So, what is (Y/N) to you?
Aziraphale: The reason I wake up every morning.
Crowley: ...That’s adorable.
(Y/N) earlier that morning, barging into Aziraphale′s bookshop, smacking pans together: WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!
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(Y/N): You need a hobby.
Crowley: I have a hobby!
(Y/N): Fawning over Aziraphale isn’t a hobby.
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Aziraphale: Wow, they really hate us.
Crowley: Yes, perhaps they’re homophobic.
Aziraphale: But we’re not dating each other, Crowley.
Crowley:
Aziraphale:
Crowley: We’re not?
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Crowley: I want to kiss you.
Aziraphale, not paying attention: What?
Crowley: I said if you die, I won't miss you.
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Crowley: I'm trash.
Aziraphale: As someone who's environmentally conscious, it's my duty to pick you up. Does 7 work for you?
Crowley:
Crowley: You smooth bastard.
Crowley: And yes, it does angel.
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Crowley: My future partner must be brave, strong, intelligent, successful, evil, and demonic.
Aziraphale: *steps on a book and proceeds to drop to their knees and sob while apologizing profusely*
(Y/N): *is commiting arson, while apologizing to the ducks for disturbing them*
Crowley: Them. I want them.
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Crowley: Valentine’s day is just a consumerist holiday created by yours truly that holds no real value other than drive people insane and put stress on their relationship, often resulting in discord-
Aziraphale over the phone: I wrote you a poem.
Crowley, already crying and taking off his sunglasses: You did?
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Nerdy “Aziraphale and Crowley are super in love” Analysis time! (Filmmaking and acting edition)
(Very late but I promise it’s worth it)
Imo the moment Aziraphale realizes he’s in love with Crowley is Ep 3 when the Apocalypse is looming and Crowley flippantly says, “I want to spend the rest of my life with you”
Aziraphale gives the look
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And it all changes
From an acting perspective, Crowley takes a confident and almost defiant stance. Despite walking away, his arms are wide open. He constantly shrouds himself in being aloof and bad, so this exaggerated gesture is the way he shows his true feelings. This is the world I can provide you. Please take it.
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From a filmmaking perspective, this is a wide shot, showing Crowley and Aziraphale's physical and emotional distance. Crowley is in focus, pointing out to the right. In Western filmmaking, characters moving left to right indicate progress
This doesn't apply to countries where they write right to left or up and down. Anime flows up and down for this reason, but that's another story
Crowley has his back to the camera because his reaction doesn't matter here. He knows what he wants; his needs are clear to himself and the audience
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Aziraphale's reaction here is massive. As a new viewer (still 3 eps to go,) I first interpreted their relationship as an unusual companionship. The montage at the beginning of this episode shows their progress from having a mutual agreement to an alliance to a friendship
But this look
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That’s the change
The camera pushes in as Aziraphale realizes what Crowley is implying, and he's overwhelmed to the point of burgeoning tears. It's not quite a Hitchcock/Jaws zoom, but it similarly presses the subject closer and tighter into the camera claustrophobically.
Subconsciously, as the audience, we now feel his feelings pressed into him
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Part of Aziraphale's reaction is his high moral standard of being an angel. While here he calls Crowley a demon, he has previously insisted, because he is a fallen angel, there is hope for goodness still.
He sees his future as a possibility in Crowley, which would destroy his known world. His moral code however is much more malleable than he would like to think, but to admit that would be failure of doing his duty as an angel
But just this acting choice, his quivering palpable fear, this reaction is much more than, “I don’t want to kill a child/not be an angel.” If he agrees to go with Crowley, the ‘side’ he’s picking isn’t good or evil, it’s love
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As the characters are asexual/nonbinary (I think?,) I don’t think canonically the fact that it’s a homosexual relationship is necessarily the issue. However, the metaphor of choosing to walk away from everything you know and believe and the rigid standards of goodness, and instead choosing to be with someone who will inevitably lead you to be cast out from your world, is (unfortunately) a universal gay experience, especially considering the source material is from the late 1980’s
Crowley’s reaction to this rejection is straight up anger played off as a totally reasonable, “C’mon man, we’re best buds,” but his eyes are covered by glasses. Eyes are the windows of the soul and he certainly doesn’t want to break right now in the face of rejection. His eyes are blocked in a very emotional tight shot of him which mirrors Aziraphale's.
Now his reaction matters and we don't really get to see it
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I don't know where this goes from here (well uhhhhh I did see The Spoilers ™ but I ain't gonna talk about that lol,) but this just feels like a massive turning point, and the acting and filmmaking really enhance it. From an outsider's perspective, I didn't 'get' this ship at all, but now in context, it completely makes sense. This scene is utterly devastating
This has probably been talked about to death for 4+ years now lol, but just wanted to point out some acting/filmmaking choices that really brought the oh shit moment to light <3
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rangercorpstherapy · 10 days
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ok weird question, but like, virginity in these books?? it's the medieval period so it was customary and expected (and scandalous if you don't) to save yourself till marriage but like, Commandant Crowley Meratyn gives off major 'guy who fucks' energy so I supposed that it's just irrelevant??
also Halt and Pauline had sexual tension for 15 fuckin years, and Will and Alyss dated for 7 years, and Gilan and Jenny dated for-- my god they're STILL dating.
someone explain
the view on virginity and sexuality differs between the Early Middle Ages and Late Middle Ages, it also depends on if the subject is nobility or not.
At the start of the Middle Ages, there wasn't as much sexual freedom as nowadays but there was certainly much less taboo on the topic. People were still connected with their old traditions and ways even though they were introduced to/and or practising Christianity. There wasn't as much of a pearl-clutching 'oh no an ankle' sex fear in the Middle Ages as people think. Yes, clergy swore oaths of celibacy and nobility were expected to stay chaste (although this expectation rested more on women than on men). For noble families, it was important to be absolutely sure that that was your baby because you couldn't just do a DNA test. Kinda important if you want to keep the family in power and make sure the bloodline continues undisputed.
Back to the pearl-clutching, it was not sex people were afraid of. There was no taboo on nudity (partly because one didn't have much privacy back then) and sex was even a source of public entertainment, for example in plays or on fairs. It was more pregnancy that was the issue. Bastards weren't treated very well along with their mothers (many choosing to leave their children in orphanages), noble bastards were dealt better cards, they could inherit and would often be seen as valuable enough that they could be used in marriage pacts. This period of vague sex is ok just be careful came to a very abrupt end because of reformations in the Church. Remember what I said about clergy having to be celibate...yeah let's just say they were not doing that. To the point of having 'wives' and kids, not even sneakily, they lived with them in a house, like a family. This was an issue from average priest to bishop. One of the many reforms was meant to make sure that calibates were calibating and put stricter measurements in place. Nuns were forced to live more secluded (before they took a very active role in the life around the convent), and convents became closed off for outsiders. Through efforts from the Pope, sex became demonized and women were presented as evil seductresses and the root of all evil evil desire. I don't think it was the same reforms but around the same time all bastards were stripped of any claim to inheritance and even if fathers claimed them they could not be legitimized. Making having bastards/being one even more taboo.
But even with all that were the Middle Ages not the most anti sex period in western history. The idea of "having sex before marriage is the end of the world and God will strike you down and dance upon your remains we are scared to hold hands with the opposite sex" came during the 16th century with the rise of STDS and would continue well into the Victorian era.
Back to the question.
It's hard to say when RA takes place, having some more modern technology but still having many characteristics of the High Middle Ages (lack of agricultural reforms, strong feudal system and a lack of cities). I am guessing that when RA took place it was around the same time the reforms were spreading (give or take a few decades maybe).
So to finally answer the question:
Crowley is saving himself for nobody, fucked till his heart gave out that's why he died with a smile on his face. Front-row seats to those sex plays at fairs. Always complaining about the good ol' days when you could get laid without some guy in robes and a hat having an opinion about it. Also, he's gay so it's not like he has to worry about populating Araluen with many handsome redhead babies (although he is a bit disappointed he can't be of service in that aspect of course).
Alyss and Will (all the ward kids for that matter) are sooo bastards to me. Bullied by the other kids you say??? Needing special protection or else they would have no one in the world you say??? People knowing they fornicated in the vineyard would not make their reps worse. Those bitches did NOT care, they fucked around day and night and would just get shotgun married if it was necessary. What is anyone going to do? How dare you and your scary wizard boyfriend part of an elite scary people group whom we are all collectively deeply afraid of have sex!
Halt was heir to the throne and probably had some speeches about how not to waste his royal seed on just anyone, to be careful and was so culture-shocked meeting Crowley and Pauline that he needed 15 years to recover.
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weirdlynotspecific · 2 months
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Why good omens is so powerful from someone who grew up in the Catholic church
I want to preface this by saying this is not an attack in any way on Catholic people, or Christians as a whole for that matter, most of you are cool normal people. This is just based off of my weird experience and how Good Omens effected me after.
I was raised in a Catholic school despite my family being agnostic which kind of warped my view of the world for a very long time. My parents were too busy to explain things to me so almost everything I was taught at a young age was spoonfed to me by the church.
Even though I wasn't particularly religious and my school wasn't awful to me or anything, it was still very clear that at this school you were going to participate and if you weren't baptized you were different.
It was funny, despite the wildly different situations I related to Crowley so much when I first saw the show (when I was maybe 12?). Sometimes I was ostracized by my Catholic peers and it hurt a lot. As I got older I adopted the same sort of blasé attitude Crowley has because it's what people expected of me.
Then I saw prefall Crowley in season two, and wow. That destroyed me. It reminded me of when I was younger and believed in the church and religion despite the fact I wasn't baptized. Then I started asking questions. Why was being gay a sin? Why was knowing the difference between good and evil bad? Why was everyone so angry?
And that was it. When I stopped trying to be Catholic because it felt like they didn't want me, I was different. Crowley is a great character not only because of how multifaceted he is, but because he is a great parallel to how people can be and ARE treated by the church.
Maybe this is obvious and I'm only catching it now, but Good Omens and religious trauma kind of go hand in hand. Thanks Neil for helping me realize what I went through as a kid wasn't normal and giving me a piece of media that made it so much easier to break down all the weird stuff I was taught.
TL;DR: I was a weird traumatized little kid and Good Omens helped me cope. Also Crowley is a metaphor.
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rhosmeinir · 7 months
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Fictober 2023 #11
Prompt #11 - "You lost it. Well, we lost it."
Fanfiction: Good Omens
Rating: G
Warnings: None
Pairing: Ineffable Husbands/Aziracrow
Other Notes: In which I didn't even sit down to write this until 10:30pm so it's one of the silliest pieces of fluff I've ever produced. South Downs. 542 words!
Aziraphale peered over the garden wall on tiptoe, brows furrowed in distress.
“You lost it!”
Below, his foot steadying the ladder upon which Aziraphale stood, Crowley raised his eyebrows. The angel backtracked.
“Well, we lost it.” They had been playing badminton in one of the clearer sections of the cottage garden, when Crowley had delivered a tremendous overhand swing and Aziraphale, in attempting to answer, had tipped the shuttle off the end of his racket, causing it to sail gaily over the wall. Normally this wouldn’t be a problem, but, “They’re out there again!” Aziraphale exclaimed, and clambered down the ladder. “I don’t think they saw it, but what do we do now?”
Their nearest neighbor was a respectable distance away, an elderly lady who tended to keep to herself, and with whom they had a cordial relationship. However at the moment she was in Wales visiting some relation or other, and in the meantime had let her cottage on AirBnB. Crowley claimed that he had had no influence on the app’s creation, and while Aziraphale wanted to blame demonic influence for its existence, he knew very well that humans were perfectly capable of this kind of evil on their own.
The tenants who now occupied the cottage were an American couple and their several children, all of whom were perfectly fine except that they were loud, extremely friendly, and liked to take up the entire field that stood between the old lady’s cottage and the one belonging to the “quirky gay couple,” with their vacationing antics. Aziraphale and Crowley (well, at least Aziraphale) had made an effort to be polite at first, but as the tenancy had dragged on, they began to simply avoid leaving their own garden when invaders were out. In the midst of wringing his hands, Aziraphale had an idea.
“Crowley,” the demon’s head snapped around at the saccharine tone in Aziraphale’s voice, his guard immediately up.
“Yyeeees?” he asked suspiciously, and Aziraphale reached out to grasp his arm, smiling beseechingly.
“Crowley, you know how we could get it back without being seen.”
“Angelll,” he said with a warning edge, but Aziraphale gripped his arm more firmly and sidled closer, grasping Crowley’s hand with his free one.
“Crowley—"
“No.”
“Crowley, please?” Aziraphale raised Crowley’s hand to his lips and kissed it, looking up over their knuckles with pleading eyes. Crowley sighed deeply, though the pink flush of his ears gave him away.
“Fine!” 
With a faint poof, he disappeared. Aziraphale grinned, wringing his hands in delight this time, and settled expectantly down onto a nearby bench. For a moment, there was nothing but the noise of the American children. Then, a feminine scream rent the air, followed by the sounds of screeching children, then masculine bellowing. Along with these sounds, there was the vibration of a much running about as the voices grew further away and (blessedly) quieter. A few moments later, a large black snake with a scarlet underbelly slithered around the corner and through the garden gate, the shuttlecock clamped comically in its jaws. Aziraphale beamed.
With another poof and a small pop, Crowley reappeared, and spat the shuttle into his palm, shaking his head in rueful amusement.
“The things I do for you, Angel.”
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lilareviewsbooks · 9 months
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Books for Good Omens fans!
Are you emotionally scarred by the ending of season 2? Is the wait for season 3 going to be excruciating for you? Are you looking for something that’ll fill those voids? Look no further, Good Omens fan! I have some media for you to consume!
The Tea Dragon Series, starting with The Tea Dragon Society, by K. O’Neil
71 pages (first book)
Contains: tea magic!; a cute sapphic romance; queer rep all around :)
If you like Good Omens because of how fluffy it can be (though that season finale was not fluffy), I highly recommend this series! The Tea Dragon Society is a comic book trilogy following Greta, who is swept into the world of caring for tea dragons, tiny little creatures that grow tea leaves on their foreheads. 
As is the case with Good Omens, this trilogy includes a lot of queer representation. It’s written by a non-binary author, K. O’Neil, who introduces us to queer characters of all identities. Also much like Good Omens, there is no discussion of homophobia or transphobia. There’s also a sapphic romance between Greta and her love interest, which is very sweet! This is perfect if you need a pick-me-up after season 2, and if the fluffier aspects of Good Omens are your favorites!
The Greenhollow Duology, starting with a Silver In The Wood, by Emily Tesh
112 pages (first book)
Contains: the fae!!; enchanted woods; middle-aged gay people!!
If what brings you joy in Good Omens is it’s middle-aged leads, I give you Silver in the Wood, and its companion Drowned Country. These two stories are quite episodic – much like Crowley and Aziraphale’s little adventures – and feature a pair of middle-aged men who fall in love against the backdrop of supernatural things afoot.
Apart from representing the older portion of the queer community, The Greenhollow Duology is also brilliantly written and very atmospheric. It will place you inside the cottage where most of the action happens, and you will be able to feel the magic in the air. Both of the books are novellas, and so are quite short reads you can enjoy whenever!
A Series of Unfortunate Events, starting with The Bad Beginning, by Lemony Snicket
176 pages (first book)
Contains: adults that are incompetent; children that are very competent; quirky writing!
If your favorite aspect of Good Omens is its quirkiness, I give you: A Series of Unfortunate Events! This middle-grade series follows a trio of siblings as they are passed from distant relative to distant relative after their parents’ mysterious death, all the while being chased by the evil Count Olaf.
This series reminds me of Good Omens for its tongue-in-cheek humor. Mr. Snicket is a master at metatextual comedy, that is, making jokes about the text itself. I’ve always had a lot of fun reading his writing! A TV show adaptation of this series has been made, and it’s on Netflix, but I haven’t watched it all the way through and can’t speak to how good it is, but it’s worth a shot if you’re feeling like watching something! Though I have to warn you: no gay people here :( 
A Master of Djinn, by P. Djeli Clark
438 pages
Contains: alternate history; a steampunk Cairo; muslim rep!!
A Master of Djinn is for those among you who want to see gay people save the world. I give you: gay people saving the world. This one follows Agent Fatma of the Ministry of Alchemy, Enchantments and Supernatural Entities in an alternate, steampunk-y Cairo, where magic was brought to life by mage Al-Jahiz, many years ago. Fatma is faced with a mysterious murder and must join forces with her lover Siti to find out what happened – except it’s waaay more complicated than it seems…
I think this reminds me of Good Omens the most because there’s a very cool dynamic between Siti and Fatma. Much like Crowley and Aziraphale, they have opposing views on a lot of things, religion for instance, and must reconcile that with their love for one another. They’re also very much ride-or-die for each other, and go on many supernatural adventures together, just like our favorite couple in Good Omens! It also features elements of fantasy being woven into a “normal” world, in this case even affecting history as we know it, to build an alternate reality! 
But, be warned: there is discussion of homophobia and sexism in this book!
This is part of larger universe, namely the Dead Djinn Universe, which includes two other novellas. You can read them in this order, or choose to start with A Master of Djinn. The novel is self-contained and will explain everything you need to know!
The Mimicking of Known Successes, by Malka Older
169 pages
Contains: a murder mystery; a second chance romance; humans living on one of Jupiter’s moons!
Another one for gay people who just like a nice couple they can follow around as they unravel some intrigue, and who were desperately infatuated with “detective Aziraphale”: The Mimicking of Known Successes is a Sherlock Holmes-like story following Pleiti and Mossa, a couple of ex-girlfriends whose paths cross again when Mossa begins investigating a mysterious murder. This one takes place on a human colony in one of Jupiter’s moons, but, apart from that, is not very hard sci-fi. There’s not really any science-y bits that I can remember. Mostly, it’s just a murder mystery, but set in space!
It’s perfect for Good Omens fans who love following a couple with a long history. Not to mention, it also has an almost grumpy/sunshine dynamic that kinda reminds me of Crowley and Aziraphale. And since I know most of us Good Omens fans were once deep in the Sherlock trenches, I thought I’d add this one to cure your heart’s many, many wounds (oh, Steven Moffatt… One day, one day you will pay…)
This is not currently part of a series, but a second novella,  The Imposition of Unnecessary Obstacles, will be published in 2024.
That’s all I got, everyone! If you’d like some more books that, just like Good Omens, don’t delve into homophobia or transphobia, I have a whole list of books that fit the bill! :) 
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nitewrighter · 11 months
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Oh! Mun! Out of curiosity since Ive been wondering what people have been thinking about it but a penny for your thoughts on the trans Gwen Stacy theory? I was very pleasantly surprised about it when my gf mentioned it to me and Ive been kicking myself ever since cuz I wasnt able to notice all the little details myself that was hinting at it when we watched the movie! :0c
I mean I don't know if they're going to go whole-hog with it. Like the color blocking and the 'protect trans kids' poster are very deliberate, as is the whole 'I'm Spider-Man' thing being a significant kind of allegory for coming out--like the intent as a metaphor is definitely there, but I don't know if they're really going to come out and say it or just kind of.. continue with the visual/narrative coding.
Like this is a thing that always bugs me when it comes to narrative vs. representation. I actually like it when queer stories are allowed to have ambiguity! Like, when Neil Gaiman says "Yeah Crowley and Aziraphale have kind of been together since literally the beginning of time. They bicker and debate but they're always bending and breaking the rules for each other because they represent the idea that humanity is never pure good or pure evil but purely human--they're the whole aspect of meeting in the middle. Also they're immortal beings and they really don't perceive or experience gender and sexuality the way we do," And then you have these people charging after him like "Say they're gay, Neil!" or "Say they're asexual panromantic genderfluid, Neil!" and it's like christ why do you want to pin this flying butterfly to a piece of cardboard? Like... the need to subcategorize everything to hell, the need to basically be like "We have to be explicit as possible ~for the straighties~"... it's exhausting sometimes. Not to be the bisexual who's all like "~I don't like labels~" but it's like... guys this is why 'queer' is an umbrella term--like for fuck's sake what are we if we don't allow ourselves fluidity and ambiguity?? I don't make it my responsibility to make my bisexuality palatable, explicit, or understandable for a straight person, and I feel like that's the pitfall a lot of the pursuit of 'representation' falls into.
Anyway, I mean I can absolutely see a scene in Beyond The Spider-Verse where we actually get like... explicit lore confirmation, I feel like they can pull it off in a way that really does justice to both Gwen and the narrative, but it's also like... I feel like the subtext route they're taking right now is about as subtle as an airhorn, so like... I feel like it also works as subtext as well.
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risetherivermoon · 9 months
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So, since i've finished watching Good Omens, and im obviously a gay nerd, i have thoughts!! 😇
cw: my opinions 😱 + Good Omens 2 spoilers ⚠️
Aziraphale hasn't been ruined, honestly what happened makes so much sense with his character, like??
As we go through the series, Season 1 & 2, he still shows signs of being hesitant to not being a part of heaven, or of hell.
He's an angel originally and that's what makes sense to him. He's lived with how the concepts of heaven and hell work for his entire life, that's not something he was able to un-learn, and it probably won't be something he can do quickly.
I believe that the theory he's been brainwashed by metatron, is just throwing out all of his character development throughout the series. The fact he's so hesitant to being a part of a third, ulterior group with Crowley is pushed so much onto us i'm so shocked people think it was out of character???
He knows there are problems with heaven, he can see them, but he doesn't see it like Crowley does. Crowley has been given the worst treatment by God and Heaven in general, being cast out. He's fallen, so it makes sense that he's used to being betrayed by large groups like heaven and hell, so it makes sense he's already come to the conclusion that being in a third group of just him and Aziraphale is the best course of action.
Aziraphale still has hope and faith for God and Heaven, he disagrees with a lot of things that they do, but he still has this faith, and hope. Which is why when he was given the opportunity to change it for the better? he took it. He wants to make a difference, he wants to make Heaven be what it should be. They are the good guys, he knows this.
Because of him not being used and comfortable with the thought that angels and demons don't have to be fundamentally good or evil, he thinks this is the better way of doing it. Because heaven is the good guys, so if Crowley is reinstated as an angel? then Crowley would be a good guy with Aziraphale.
Crowley, sees this as a betrayal because he thought that Aziraphale knows that neither side is good. Aziraphale, because they both suck at communicating, as thats been established, never expresses his doubt in Crowley's ideology, and Crowley never fully explains it.
Aziraphale wants to make heaven a place where Crowley can come back. He wants to make heaven inhabitable for Crowley, and he wants Crowley to help him make a difference because he thinks thats what Crowley wants. (BECAUSE THEY WONT TALK TO EACHOTHER!!!)
Crowley thinks that Aziraphale wants him to change, to be an obedient pawn in God's game, again. Crowley takes it as Aziraphale thinking he needs to be controlled. Crowley goes "too fast" for him, he's unpredictable and evil.
That whole ending scene was just them not getting eachother AT ALLLLL and Crowley was so desperate for Aziraphale to understand him that he kissed him as a last measure, the gesture was him screaming at Aziraphale to just listen. That's why it was ugly, that's why it was hurtful rather than sweet. They weren't understanding eachother.
Aziraphale says that he forgives Crowley, he chooses those words exactly. "I forgive you." i see that as Aziraphale telling Crowley that he can be an angel again, that even though he's fallen, and God may never forgive him, that Aziraphale does. Aziraphale thinks that Crowley can be an angel again, despite everything. He thinks that Crowley deserves to be accepted back into heaven.
He's wishing that his acceptance of Crowley is enough, but it isn't. And he watches Crowley from afar, and he decides that (sadly) if Crowley doesn't want to listen, than maybe he isn't worth the sacrifice, he isn't worth giving up the opportunity to save humanity and change heaven and hell spontaneously.
Aziraphale looks at Crowley, and he sees their future crumble, he sees their past and present, he sees how much he loves Crowley...and he dismisses it.
Aziraphale is a manipulated child, that strives for the attention and acceptance, thinking that this is the way to finally get it. He has hope.
Crowley is the abandoned child, the reckless and rebellious one. He's adamant on showing both heaven and hell that they don't have control over him. He's been betrayed too many times to ever trust an angel, or a demon.
Crowley thought he'd found someone, finally someone, he could trust, and he watches that crumble in front of him.
anyways, i hope that makes sense :) i love them, they should make up and make out next season, xx
p.s; im so ill abt them
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trensu · 1 year
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WAIT, WHAT ABOUT A STEDDIE GOOD OMENS AU? Eddie is hell's most terrible demon. As in, he completely fails at being sufficiently evil all the time. He is, at most, a nuisance. Then we have heaven's best angel, Steve, who was charged with being a guardian and love humanity, and threw himself headfirst into it to the point that when Heaven decided it was time to end the world he was like, 'uh that's where all the humans live? So, hard pass on Armageddon, thanks!' I don't think they have an Arrangement like Aziraphale and Crowley do, though, and probably they actively avoid each other until the whole antichrist situation pops up.
Then we can have them agree to attempting to raise Dustin to prevent Armageddon because they think he's the antichrist except, surprise! It's actually El who's devil-spawn, and she grew up to be kind and loving despite the misery that was her life. And actually, Eddie and Steve decide this worked out well because if Dustin had had antichrist powers, he probably would've taken over the world in a heartbeat because Eddie and Steve both kinda suck at their jobs.
Nancy and Jonathan are obviously Anathema and Pulsifer. I think we'll have Robin be an angel sent down to Earth and "apprenticed" to Steve as punishment because she annoyed Gabriel one too many times. Chrissy is there too as Eddie's liaison to hell. She likes him and definitely encourages his shenanigans while reporting to hell that Eddie is doing fantastic evil on Earth so they both can keep their jobs.
Eddie cheerleads Chrissy into going after Robin because 1) he wants his bestie to be happily together with her crush and 2) she'd definitely get a promotion in hell for seducing an angel. Meanwhile Steve actually gets very protective of Robin and is mega suspicious of Chrissy's intentions. He makes sure they're never alone together and will go so far as to physically put himself between them if he thinks Chrissy is getting to close to Robin.
Eddie decides to be the best wingman which obviously means it is his duty to distract Steve so Chrissy can shoot her shot. What better way to distract him than by flirting outrageously? Sure he's teased Steve consistently throughout the millennia but it was mostly just to get Steve all huffy and irritated rather than to, like, seduce him. Steve gets incredibly flustered annoyed under Eddie's new type of attention and is very thoroughly distracted by it.
(ofc it turns out that even though Steve is an angel who should be above such things as carnal sin, he's actually VERY experienced in the sack. Eddie, by contrast, might be the most virginal demon to have ever existed and really has no idea what to do when Steve starts giving Eddie as good as he gets; they're essentially playing gay chicken except for how they're both ethereal/occult beings without any human sex or gender, but they do have wings so the chicken bit still applies)
Then other stuff happens and they all fall in love and live happily on Earth with the occasional confrontation with Heaven and/or Hell whenever one of their sides tries to start some apocalypse or other again!
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freackthejester · 7 months
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Saw a post to this affect years ago, but Trans!Crowley (Supernatural) is a valid reading of the text and a delightful headcanon.
In life, it is canon that Fergus sold his sold his soul and went to hell and became a demon over a deal involving penile lengthening . ("Just trying to hit double digits" - 6x04Weekend at Bobby's)
Here's my take: if a cis man made that deal I would think it was pathetic, but if a trans man living in the literal 17th century made that deal I would get it. It would be a boss move.
So let's discuss this. Besides telling a joke, what is the writer (Dabb and Loflin team, feels like a Dabb line to me) saying about Crowley here? He's already been established to be a bit gay, and so therefore vain. But other than that it is not funny. Like, Crowley was just such an inherently evil guy that even back when he was Fergus he sold his soul for kicks?
That's also an incredibly shitty deal. It stops coming up later in the seasons, but crossroads demons are incredibly powerful, and can bring back the dead and imbue talents. And Crowley, the future King of the Crossroads and progeny of ROWENA Macleod sold his soul for an extension on an already oversided penis. In the year like 168X
It's a funny joke and it's what Fergus want you to think. A stipulation of the deal I imagine him making in this headcanon is that everyone's memories are changed so that it will be as if Fergus had always been known as male. It adds so much depth to his relationship with his mother if you imagine that Fergus actually grew up as an angry daughter. Being taught in the ways of witchcraft and being resentful of having to wear girls clothes
Literally okay so imagine the line "Now, Fergus was bright. Walked before his first birthday, but he hated pants. Hated them. He'd run 'round the village, his wee banger just flapping in the breeze." - Rowena 11.23 Alpha and Omega but this is an edited memory (she is talking to Chuck here while Crowley is angry yet oddly nervous.
It's so so canon to ME! If anyone wants to talk about trans Crowley I will listen.
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byebyelemonpie · 8 months
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byebyelemonpie's july 2023 recommendations
My july top 5 movies:
Nimona (2023, dir: Troy Quane, Nick Bruno) [First time watch] Nimona is a shapeshifter who wants to be an evil sidekick. This premise is already brilliant, but this movie adds to it a lot of love, acceptance and so many feelings that made me cry a lot, and it suddenly became one of my favourite movies of the year. Add to this wonderful animation and really funny sequences: genuinely a perfect movie. -
Rye Lane (2023, dir: Raine Allen-Miller) [First time watch] This was cute and fun! A very nice indie British romcom that is mostly set over the course of one day. Almost like Before Sunrise, but with more messy situations and, maybe, lies? -
Fire Island (2022, dir: Andrew Ahn) [First time watch] Five guys spend a week at a gay retreat on an island: will they find love? I still cannot get over how this movie is a queer version of Pride and Prejudice. I loved how clever it was at translating the story in a more modern (and more gay?) setting and I loved how well the characters were developed. -
Barbie (2023, dir: Greta Gerwig) [First time watch] My goodness, this was just a fun movie! The photography and direction were perfect in composing this story about the dolls most people grew up with. It was fun and lighthearted (the songs sung by the Kens were hilarious), but it was also a thoughtful piece of media talking about feminism and inequality, and the fact that not everybody knows what their place in the world is, but just being there is (K)enough. Just lovely. -
Another Cinderella Story (2008, dir: Damon Santostefano) [Rewatch after twelve years] This was a blast from the past! Sometimes I still hum to myself Tell Me Something I Don't Know, but rewatching the movie it came from was an experience. Recently I had also rewatched the Hilary Duff Cinderella Story, but I found the Selena Gomez one a bit more fun: maybe the dances and the songs made it feel less long? I'm not sure.
Favourite series in july:
Good Omens - season 2 (UK/USA, 2023) [First time watch] Aziraphale and Crowley need to take care of an Archangel with amnesia, make two women fall in love, and reminisce of their history together while not talking about any of that at all. Binge-watching this show is always tragic, because sure! I want to see my favourite supernatural entities do things and interact and fall for each other a little, but once I arrive at the last episode wide-eyed and speechless (actually in my notebook I wrote "Shaking Crying Screaming", but who's counting), what am I supposed to do to wait for the fated conclusion except re-re-re-re-rewatch the whole thing again? -
Little Women (South Korea, 2022) [First time watch] This is the story of three sisters who are poor and try to live in a rich world. What could happen if they found each other involved with rich people and join a long string of suicides, murders, money laundering, and political scandals? The three will have to investigate in the name of justice and to protect their family from the privilege and power that people who are richer than them have. It was very hard to watch the first episodes of this series: they were so heavy that I couldn't get through more than one of them without a headache, so watching this whole thing took me months, but I was fond of the characters and the cinematography being stunning were great incentive not to drop the series at all. -
3 Will Be Free (Thailand, 2019) [First time watch] Three people find themselves inside a mob family affair and they try to escape, while getting to know and growing fond of each other. I loved the characters!! The three main character were very easy to like, from an audience perspective, but I found myself rooting for Mae most of all: she was the best character of the show, in my opinion. -
Abbott Elementary - season 2 (USA, 2022/23) [First time watch] As usual, this sitcom brings me laughter and happiness, and makes me think fondly of my time as a kindergarten teacher (which ended last May). The situations these characters find themselves in as usual are blown out of proportion and their response to them is always hilarious, but the fact that they could happen is very realistic and fighting for the right to a free education for all is very important. I hope that after the Writers and Actors' Strike this show will continue, because it is lovely, and one of the few US sitcoms from recent years that I enjoyed watching.
[byebyelemonpie's 2023 recs]
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